DIY yaris III fog lights installation

[karloslatynos]

I went through al lot of data available here about fog lights installation but most of it is related only to yaris II generation. The 3-rd one electric system looks a little bit different.

I have purchased aftermarket duolight multi - function (DRL + fog lights) kit.

http://einparts.de/produkt/duolight/?lang=en

That product is dedicated to convert already existing fog lights system to duolight one. As my european (french made) yaris have not been equipped with fog lights, I am looking for more information how to install them (fog lights only as DRL looks dead easy to connect)

The way I wanna do it is to replace the indicator/headlight stalk with only rear fog light switch to front & rear one (like Bairjo did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bilhPerqVEo)
That is the stage where actually I haven't got a clue how to move forward...

- is the front fog light wire present in the indicator/headlight harness?
- where do I plug-in the relay?
- where do I connect the wires to the fuse box under the hood?

Someone gave me an idea of not to change the indicator/headlight stalk & connect the front fog lights to the rear one, so they both can be switch on at the same time. Is it possible to do it?

BTW the manufacturer suggested to connect the DRL yellow wire to the parking lights. I want to be cheeky and have my DRL lights switch off only when the front fog lights are operating.

[CTScott]

I have the wiring diagrams for the 3rd gen European market Yaris. I will take a look at them tonight and should be able to answer those questions.

[2009D4d]

May be of assitance http://www.toyota-tech.eu/aimuploads/4dab23b9-8506-40c3-9214-7cd6748e1284/Yaris_Front_Fog_lamps_RHD_PZ457_B0513_00_AIM%20002 _723_0.pdf

[karloslatynos]

May be of assitance http://www.toyota-tech.eu/aimuploads/4dab23b9-8506-40c3-9214-7cd6748e1284/Yaris_Front_Fog_lamps_RHD_PZ457_B0513_00_AIM%20002 _723_0.pdf

I am not really keen on that as it requires totally separated wiring circuit. I prefer to make it looks like factory fitted.

[Eduardo_mty]

I have the wiring diagrams for the 3rd gen European market Yaris. I will take a look at them tonight and should be able to answer those questions.
Can i pay for a copy of that wiring diagram?

Here in México, i cant get one from Toyota

[NYC-SE]

CTScott I'm looking for a wiring diagram for a 3rd gen US model. Any chance you have one?

[CTScott]

I went through al lot of data available here about fog lights installation but most of it is related only to yaris II generation. The 3-rd one electric system looks a little bit different.

I have purchased aftermarket duolight multi - function (DRL + fog lights) kit.

http://einparts.de/produkt/duolight/?lang=en

That product is dedicated to convert already existing fog lights system to duolight one. As my european (french made) yaris have not been equipped with fog lights, I am looking for more information how to install them (fog lights only as DRL looks dead easy to connect)

The way I wanna do it is to replace the indicator/headlight stalk with only rear fog light switch to front & rear one (like Bairjo did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bilhPerqVEo)
That is the stage where actually I haven't got a clue how to move forward...

- is the front fog light wire present in the indicator/headlight harness?
- where do I plug-in the relay?
- where do I connect the wires to the fuse box under the hood?

Someone gave me an idea of not to change the indicator/headlight stalk & connect the front fog lights to the rear one, so they both can be switch on at the same time. Is it possible to do it?

BTW the manufacturer suggested to connect the DRL yellow wire to the parking lights. I want to be cheeky and have my DRL lights switch off only when the front fog lights are operating.


OK - The 3rd gen European Yaris is wired differently than the US market ones are, but they are pre-wired for front fogs.

The front fog light relay is not built into the body ECU, but rather is in a separate, small two relay box under the dash.

There is a 15A fuse (FOG FR) in the under dash fuse panel for them.

On the headlight switch connector, the green and brown wires are for the front fogs. Green gets connected to brown (ground) to turn on the fogs.


On the headlight switch connectors the light green wire is for the rear fogs. It too gets connected to the brown wire to turn them on. So you could simply jump green to light green to have the rear fog switch turn both on.

[karloslatynos]

I've checked the wiring under the hood and found the socket there waiting to be plugged in (hurray!!!) Also I had a look under the dashboard, found the 15A fuse but couldn't located them two relays, but it doesn't matter. I believe it's somewhere there.

Now - according to the diagram where would you suggest to connect the positive DRL wire?

BTW I just cannot believe that the dealer after typing my reg number offered me worth £150 fog light kit with the wiring set where actually I would need only lamps & headlight switch. No common sense at all.

thank you so much Scott

[karloslatynos]

Can i pay for a copy of that wiring diagram?

Here in México, i cant get one from Toyota

CTScott I'm looking for a wiring diagram for a 3rd gen US model. Any chance you have one?

Guys, it looks like you can get anything you want from there:

http://www.toyota-tech.eu/faq.aspx

[karloslatynos]

OK - The 3rd gen European Yaris is wired differently than the US market ones are, but they are pre-wired for front fogs.

The front fog light relay is not built into the body ECU, but rather is in a separate, small two relay box under the dash.

There is a 15A fuse (FOG FR) in the under dash fuse panel for them.

On the headlight switch connector, the green and brown wires are for the front fogs. Green gets connected to brown (ground) to turn on the fogs.


On the headlight switch connectors the light green wire is for the rear fogs. It too gets connected to the brown wire to turn them on. So you could simply jump green to light green to have the rear fog switch turn both on.

It looks to me that green wire on the headlight switch connector is not alive.
To begin with I connected the green wire to the light green using another piece of wire. When switched fogs on the stalk, only rear fog light came on the instrument cluster, but after split second it kicked itself out.
When I removed all three wires (green, light green and brown) from the connector and stick them together, only rear fogs light came on the instrument cluster. When stick brown and light green together, the rear fogs light came on (on the instrument cluster) When did the same with brown and green, the front fogs light remains dead.

I strongly believe I did connect the front fog lamps correctly. I have tried to understand the system & I have done a couple tests like disconnected rear fog lamp & then stick light green to brown. The result was that rear fog light came on the instrument cluster. I couldn't get the same result with the front one. Something is missed somewhere.

I've checked the 15A fuse from the fuse box located under the dash.

I have no idea what to do next.

[CTScott]

Is the FR FOG relay installed? In the US 3rd generation Yaris, it is built into the body ECU, but on the European market ones it is a separate relay.

[karloslatynos]

Is the FR FOG relay installed? In the US 3rd generation Yaris, it is built into the body ECU, but on the European market ones it is a separate relay.

I haven't done it. I was expecting pre-wired model to be equipped with it.
I know you've mention relay in the previous thread. I can't find it.

Where do I find it & what type of relay do I need?

[CTScott]

I haven't done it. I was expecting pre-wired model to be equipped with it.
I know you've mention relay in the previous thread. I can't find it.

Where do I find it & what type of relay do I need?

The relay is a common Toyota 90080-87021. It is located up under the dash (see the blue highlight below):

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[karloslatynos]

I haven't done it. I was expecting pre-wired model to be equipped with it.
I know you've mention relay in the previous thread. I can't find it.

Where do I find it & what type of relay do I need?

Ok, I've done my homework, had a look at relay location diagram (from www.toyota-tech.eu) and then went to my car to actually physically locate it (or at least if it isn't there (refferring to CTScott is not), its nest). After what I've seen I believe its located on top of the under the instrument panel fuse box.

To me it looks absolutely nightmare.

As the access to that is not available without removing other components, I think there are only two ways to get there: either remove the upper dash panel or somewhow pull the whole unit (under the instrument panel fuse box) down. I hope I'm wrong on this.

Compare to the 2nd gen. front fog relay location, this one is completely nonsense. :thumbdown:

My understanding is that components like fuse, bulb, relay supposed to be accessable. Well done for the designer :clap:

I'm going to the dealer tomorrow & see what they say.

[CTScott]

Hmm. That may be the difference between how Japanese and French engineers design things...

[2slowjetta]

cant you just relaythem and have power from the lowbeams?

[karloslatynos]

cant you just relaythem and have power from the lowbeams?

How would you do that?

[CTScott]

cant you just relaythem and have power from the lowbeams?

Not if you want them to work with the fog light switch, as the O.P. was looking to do. If you wanted them to be on at all times with the low beams, then adding a relay off the low beams to run them would work, but would require running wires through the firewall, as you would be bypassing the OEM foglight wiring to do so.

[CTScott]

OK - Here's another thought:

Looking at the EWD, the four connection points of the relay are all accessible at easier to get at points. With that in mind you could use a normally open automotive relay and connect it as follows:

Coil + to the green wire in connector 3A pin 55 of the body ECU
Coil - to the pink wire in connector 3A pin 15 of the body ECU
Contact common terminal to the beige wire in connector 3A pin 4 of the body ECU
Contact normally open terminal to the beige wire in connector F3 pin 12 of the instrument cluster

[karloslatynos]

At least thanks to the master now we know, that there is another way of making front fogs working in 3-rd yaris.

I went to the dealer today and they only said the front fog relay is accessable without removing upper dash panel (HALLELUYAH) rather through the glove box. Now I can confirm that.

To get to the front fog relay nest we need to remove the glove box (to have the access) and the front dash panel (RHD) to be able to see (some kind of torch is also required)

I am waiting now for relay to be delivered. I'm gonna do some photos & descriptions. See you soon.

[karloslatynos]

Relay plugged in, front fogs working but...

When jumped green to light green its kicking itself out...

link to the video demonstration below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc-JkO2iY8s&feature=youtu.be

[CTScott]

Can you post a picture of the wires going into the headlight switch?

[karloslatynos]

Can you post a picture of the wires going into the headlight switch?

as requested

[karloslatynos]

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[CTScott]

OK. All of the wires are where I would expect them to be.

The body ECU is involved in the process of switching the fogs on. The front and rear fog switches are inputs to the body ECU and it in turn drives the relays for them. From what you are seeing it may be that it has enough smarts to want them to truly be separate inputs. Try just jumping the front fog's dark green wire to the brown wire (which will allow the fronts to turn on) and then turn on the rears as well as see if they both stay on.

[karloslatynos]

OK. All of the wires are where I would expect them to be.

The body ECU is involved in the process of switching the fogs on. The front and rear fog switches are inputs to the body ECU and it in turn drives the relays for them. From what you are seeing it may be that it has enough smarts to want them to truly be separate inputs. Try just jumping the front fog's dark green wire to the brown wire (which will allow the fronts to turn on) and then turn on the rears as well as see if they both stay on.

All of the wires are in place as they should be. When jumped dark green to the brown, front fogs are automatically switched on when turn the headlights. The rears operate as normal.

When swapped over light green with dark green, none of fogs are able to switched on.

[CTScott]

All of the wires are in place as they should be. When jumped dark green to the brown, front fogs are automatically switched on when turn the headlights. The rears operate as normal.

When swapped over light green with dark green, none of fogs are able to switched on.

OK. So, the body ECU is definitely not happy with them connected together, so you will have to add another switch or obtain one of the stalks with both switches.

[Eforno]

I know this post is rather old, but are 3rd gen Yaris in the US pre-wired like the EU ones?

[CTScott]

I know this post is rather old, but are 3rd gen Yaris in the US pre-wired like the EU ones?

Yes. There is a DIY thread for 3rd gen US ones.

[Eforno]

Yes. There is a DIY thread for 3rd gen US ones.

Thanks! Are you talking about this one (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41668&highlight=fog+lights)?

[Skriptenfresser]

Hello everyone! Although this topic is rather old, I want to answer, since I came here using Google.

I am also thinking about adding front fog light, so I read this thread and perhaps I know the reason for your car's behaviour, I want to give a deeper insight and there MAY be a solution.

At first, we need some general explanation regarding the wiring.
The front and rear fog lights are both controlled by the Body ECU. This ECU controls two relays, which simply connect these lights to the 12V supply. The ECU switches the lights on, when the user requests this by turning a switch on the light stalk. Usually (if factory fitted!), there is ONE(!) multi-position switch for the front and rear fog lights. This switch has three positions:
- Off
- Front Fog Light
- Rear Fog Light

The "Off" and "Front Fog Light" positions snap in, the switch keeps its position there. (like a typical on/off switch). But the "Rear Fog Light" position is DIFFERENT. The switch does not snap in this position, there is a spring pushing it back (like a push button). So if you turn your light stalk switch to "Rear Fog Light" for the first time, the rear Fog light turns on and the switch returns into the previous position (but still keeping the rear fog light on). If you turn it again, the rear fog lights turn off again. All fog lights turn off, if you turn the switch back to "off".

The key point is: The front fog light switch position connects the wire PERMANENTLY to Ground, as long as the front fog switch is in its position. But the rear fog light switch position outputs only a brief connection to GND (as long as the switch is held in the "rear fog light" position).
Furthermore, it looks like the ECU automatically turns off the rear fog lights, when it sees, that the front fog lights are turned off (=its wire is not longer grounded).

I do not think, that the ECU is intelligent enough to KNOW, that both wires are connected and somehow does something to prevent you from doing this.
What you are seeing is the correct behaviour, as expected from the wiring explained above.

What happens is:
- You connect both green wires together
- You bring the rear fog light switch into the "on" position for a short time (since the switch returns into the original position afterwards)
- This connects both wires to GND for a short time
- In the very first moment, the ECU sees the front fog light wire connected to GND and switches on the front fog light
- The ECU also sees the rear fog light wires connected to GND and switches on the rear fog lights as well
- In the next moment, the switch returns into its original position and the connection to GND breaks
- The ECU sees, that the rear fog light switch returned (no action taken)
- The ECU ALSO sees, that the front fog light switch ALSO returned and switches off the front fog light. The ECU thinks, you turned the light stalk switch to "off". The rear fog light is therefore also switched off, since this is the intended behaviour with the original light stalk (the ECU now thinks, you are using this one!)


There may be some solutions:
- Use the original light stalk with the switch for BOTH fog lights. Should work out of the box now.
- Add an additional switch for the front fog lights (on/off switch with two real positions, not a push button!), but that is perhaps not what you want. Nevertheless, this is the solution I would use, since I need to control the front and rear fog lights independently (legal reasons, some situations allow front fog lights but not rear fog lights on).
- Build a more complex circuit: Connect a toggle relay (I am not sure about the name) to the rear fog light switch, so the relay changes its state each time, the switch is actuated. The relay then switches the front fog light wire of the light stalk to the ECU.

I hope this clarifies the behaviour.

//EDIT:
Today, I successfully verified my post on my car (Toyota Yaris Hybid, latest version, bought in May 2015).

Another very interesting fact is that the front fog fuse as well as the front fog relay were already in place. Maybe the relay is integrated into one of the ECUs, I was not able to locate it. I heard it clicking and then I was able to measure +12V at the front fog light connectors. Since I am the first driver of this car, this must already have been factory fitted.
So the upgrade becomes more simple: I do not have to buy a relay or do much wiring. I will just have to add a switch and mount the light. :-)

[karloslatynos]

well explained. Thank you

[neofitos]

Hello everybody,

I am from Greece!
I have a 2012 Mk3 Yaris, made in France.

I bought an ebay fog light kit(lamps wiring and switch), installed the lamps, the wiring already exists.
I cannot do the connection inside the cabin for the switch.

I have read all the threads for ebay fog lights. I put a fuse for front fog lights under the dash panel .

Connecting pin 3 to pin 4 in the stalk light switch will not light my front fog lights.
Everybody says that relay already exists(i cannot see it).What am i doing wrong??
My Yaris has alarm installed by Toyota, i dont know if this helps somewhere.Furthermore my genuine toyota light switch installed on the car has only a spring powered switch for the rear fog lights . There is no position in the geuine switch for the front fogs.

Shall i buy a new toyota switch with two positions??
Every opinion is appreciated! I have been searching everywhere, Toyota here in greece say that they do not help me because it is aftermarket and if sth goes wrong i will blame them.(I cannot understand that since the wiring already exists , there is nothing aftermarket except the plastic cover from the lamps)

[karloslatynos]

Hello everybody,

I am from Greece!
I have a 2012 Mk3 Yaris, made in France.

I bought an ebay fog light kit(lamps wiring and switch), installed the lamps, the wiring already exists.
I cannot do the connection inside the cabin for the switch.

I have read all the threads for ebay fog lights. I put a fuse for front fog lights under the dash panel .

Connecting pin 3 to pin 4 in the stalk light switch will not light my front fog lights.
Everybody says that relay already exists(i cannot see it).What am i doing wrong??
My Yaris has alarm installed by Toyota, i dont know if this helps somewhere.Furthermore my genuine toyota light switch installed on the car has only a spring powered switch for the rear fog lights . There is no position in the geuine switch for the front fogs.

Shall i buy a new toyota switch with two positions??
Every opinion is appreciated! I have been searching everywhere, Toyota here in greece say that they do not help me because it is aftermarket and if sth goes wrong i will blame them.(I cannot understand that since the wiring already exists , there is nothing aftermarket except the plastic cover from the lamps)

I think if you have used the existing wiring circut (as I did on mine) a new (second hand) switch/stalk is the best solution. Its going to look like factory installed. By the way can you send a link of your ebay purchase? Does it have any manual?

[neofitos]

thanks a lot for your quick answer karlos!!

this is the one that i bought.there was no manual. i want to use the existing wiring

http://www.ebay.com/itm/380995092067?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

where should i connect the new switch? what kind of switch should i buy?
do you have any link ?

[neofitos]

Sorry for the delay , my last post was not posted(dont know why).

thank you karlos for youw answer!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/380995092067?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

this is the one that i bought.
i want to use the existing wiring.
that type of switch should i buy? there should i connect it?

[karloslatynos]

Sorry for the delay , my last post was not posted(dont know why).

thank you karlos for youw answer!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/380995092067?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

this is the one that i bought.
i want to use the existing wiring.
that type of switch should i buy? there should i connect it?

you need something like that
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Yaris-Indicator-Light-Switch-2015Yr-/112096055418?hash=item1a1972107a:g:5AcAAOSwezVWwcA X

[neofitos]

thanks a lot. i will buy one in a week . As soon i install it i'll be back to post if it worked or not!

Thanks a lot again!

[neofitos]

thanks a lot. i will buy one in a week . As soon i install it i'll be back to post if it worked or not!

Thanks a lot again!


#update. Genuine Toyota light switch installed , front fog lights still do not work

[karloslatynos]

Hello everybody,

I am from Greece!
I have a 2012 Mk3 Yaris, made in France.

I bought an ebay fog light kit(lamps wiring and switch), installed the lamps, the wiring already exists.
I cannot do the connection inside the cabin for the switch.

I have read all the threads for ebay fog lights. I put a fuse for front fog lights under the dash panel .

Connecting pin 3 to pin 4 in the stalk light switch will not light my front fog lights.
Everybody says that relay already exists(i cannot see it).What am i doing wrong??
My Yaris has alarm installed by Toyota, i dont know if this helps somewhere.Furthermore my genuine toyota light switch installed on the car has only a spring powered switch for the rear fog lights . There is no position in the geuine switch for the front fogs.

Shall i buy a new toyota switch with two positions??
Every opinion is appreciated! I have been searching everywhere, Toyota here in greece say that they do not help me because it is aftermarket and if sth goes wrong i will blame them.(I cannot understand that since the wiring already exists , there is nothing aftermarket except the plastic cover from the lamps)

Have you inserted grey relay? Refer to photos on 24 of this post.
If you have used the existing wiring, inserted the grey relay, your fogs are working (you can verified that by connecting them straight to the battery) and toyota stalk has the front fogs option your front fogs should come up along with your lights

[neofitos]

Have you inserted grey relay? Refer to photos on 24 of this post.
If you have used the existing wiring, inserted the grey relay, your fogs are working (you can verified that by connecting them straight to the battery) and toyota stalk has the front fogs option your front fogs should come up along with your lights


where do i get the grey relay? mine is a LHD and it is really hard to find relay.it is under the steering wheel(not the glove box)

In a greek yaris forum one guy said that in his french made yaris the relay was already in place, he just pluged the lights and used a switch

[karloslatynos]

The grey relay should be there. I think its R/B No.5

[neofitos]

The grey relay should be there. I think its R/B No.5

i will check again tomorrow. The first time was hard to get in there!

[neofitos]

FINALLY!

took the gray relay from the fuse box in the engine area(i dont know if it was needed there, everything still works in the car).Installing the relay in LHD models is not that easy, you will have to find the spot next to one blue relay(many wiring and other stuff in there)
Front fog lights work now!!

So, in brief, if you want to install ebay fog lights with yari's existing wiring , you have to:

1) plug the lights in the front bumper and connect them to the existing wiring
2) buy a genuine light stalk/switch that has 2 positions(one for front fogs and one for rear fog)
3) make sure that the fuse for the front fogs is in place(in the fuse box that is in the cabin)
4)buy a grey relay ,if needed. (Toyota 90080-87021) (you can find one in the fuse box in the engine area,i am not 100% sure if you are supposed to remove it )
5)install the relay in the cabin ,if needed. in LHD models you install it on the left side of the steering wheel next to a blue one.(quite hard to find , try more)
6) front fogs now work , the light on the dashboard for the front fogs also lights!

A big thanks to Karlos for his help!

[karloslatynos]

FINALLY!

took the gray relay from the fuse box in the engine area(i dont know if it was needed there, everything still works in the car).Installing the relay in LHD models is not that easy, you will have to find the spot next to one blue relay(many wiring and other stuff in there)
Front fog lights work now!!

So, in brief, if you want to install ebay fog lights with yari's existing wiring , you have to:

1) plug the lights in the front bumper and connect them to the existing wiring
2) buy a genuine light stalk/switch that has 2 positions(one for front fogs and one for rear fog)
3) make sure that the fuse for the front fogs is in place(in the fuse box that is in the cabin)
4)buy a grey relay ,if needed. (Toyota 90080-87021) (you can find one in the fuse box in the engine area,i am not 100% sure if you are supposed to remove it )
5)install the relay in the cabin ,if needed. in LHD models you install it on the left side of the steering wheel next to a blue one.(quite hard to find , try more)
6) front fogs now work , the light on the dashboard for the front fogs also lights!

A big thanks to Karlos for his help!

Pleasure. I am happy to hear now you have your fogs working. We all are here to help. I've been in the same position as yours and found the answer here.
By the way I would strongly recommend to put the grey relay back to where you took it from. It is there for a reason.
Anyway well done neofitos :clap: :w00t::thumbup:

[neofitos]

i'll get a new one grey relay soon and install it again there.
I am really glad to see everything shining white on my yaris!

:headbang:

[HDTechVideo]

Hi I have 2013 toyota yaris multidrive. it is prewired for fog lamp. so i fixed the fog lamp and noticed there is no switch for the same. so i take my car into auto electric workshop and they couldnt able to locate the relay. Could someone please help me to solve this issue.
What are the items I have to purchase ? and how to fix.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59173

[HDTechVideo]

Hi could you please guide me how to remove the steering wheel mk3 yaris. Im trying fix the fog lamp with bew indecator stalk and relay. I can only be able to remove the back cover of the steering wheel.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171107/916ad2810ceb5f692f14eb82bca89de6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171107/8d1ab183c736ec675c0f414f4949f92c.jpg

I cant able to locate any screw for airbag removal.

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[karloslatynos]

Removing the steering wheel airbag is quite awkward.
Take a look at that thread
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37205&page=2

You will find there the informations and pictures how to do it.

[HDTechVideo]

Removing the steering wheel airbag is quite awkward.
Take a look at that thread
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37205&page=2

You will find there the informations and pictures how to do it.Thank you.

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[HDTechVideo]

Thank you Karlos

https://youtu.be/H8r_oUV_plI

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[HDTechVideo]

Hi
Everything installed and it worked fine for few minutes. then even the dashboard light went off. Fog light is not coming on. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

Edit: Solved

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[HDTechVideo]

https://youtu.be/MugSOg2i5uU

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[HDTechVideo]

After installing fog light the fuse is always blowing. Will last only for few minutes. Any help. Thanks.

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