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3cyltrbo
02-26-2015, 11:33 AM
Every year around this time I start to get the itch for some driving enjoyment.

Because I live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada (land of Igloos) , there are still several feet of snow on the ground and its probably going to be at least mid April before all the salt has washed off the roads (personally I refuse to drive any car that I care about during our brutally cold winter, and on roads covered in salt)

I'm over the Hump now (more months of non-driving are behind me than there are remaining) Comeon spring!!!!!!

Anyone else store their car through the winter? (and subsequently miss it) ??

Will

ern-diz
02-26-2015, 11:57 AM
Being from California, storing a car for the winter is a very interesting and unfamiliar concept. I assume you just rely on public transportation?

sheekeebut
02-26-2015, 12:44 PM
I'm from the suburbs of greater Toronto. More salt than snow. If you're parking streetside, then I feel sorry for you. But if you can always put it under a roof at night, then I say go for it, drive it in the snow and slush and brine. It makes you manlier.

sheekeebut
02-26-2015, 12:46 PM
Forgot to check what you drive. Well then, um, I feel for you. This situation is exactly why I didn't go for that MX-5 last summer.

nookandcrannycar
02-26-2015, 01:12 PM
Being from California, storing a car for the winter is a very interesting and unfamiliar concept. I assume you just rely on public transportation?

From what I understand from quite a few past posts, many people in Canada and in snowy northern parts of the U.S. have a 'winter beater car' for this time of year. The concept is unfamiliar to me as well. I've done a fair amount of traveling, but I've only once lived in a snowy area, Mammoth Lakes, CA. It was for one ski season, and I didn't drive around.

ern-diz
02-26-2015, 01:25 PM
From what I understand from quite a few past posts, many people in Canada and in snowy northern parts of the U.S. have a 'winter beater car' for this time of year. The concept is unfamiliar to me as well. I've done a fair amount of traveling, but I've only once lived in a snowy area, Mammoth Lakes, CA. It was for one ski season, and I didn't drive around.

That makes sense. I've seen posts about "winter setup" referring to different wheels/tires. Hadn't noticed the ones about having a second car altogether.

IllusionX
02-26-2015, 01:56 PM
What good to have a car and not drive it year round?
If I could afford a nice car, like an EVO or a GTR, it's going to be winter driven. Lol
But then, I'm probably not going to be a car keeper, change every 3-4years or something.

3cyltrbo
02-26-2015, 03:38 PM
Being from California, storing a car for the winter is a very interesting and unfamiliar concept. I assume you just rely on public transportation?

Because I live in the Capital and we have an extensive transit system, technically I could take the bus everywhere but instead I have a “WinterBeater” (2004 Pontiac Vibe)


I'm from the suburbs of greater Toronto. More salt than snow. If you're parking streetside, then I feel sorry for you. But if you can always put it under a roof at night, then I say go for it, drive it in the snow and slush and brine. It makes you manlier.

Always under a roof (in fact the current house was built in part to help alleviate having any of the toys outside and affected by any kind of weather)

Forgot to check what you drive. Well then, um, I feel for you. This situation is exactly why I didn't go for that MX-5 last summer.

Actually it was the Yaris that sparked my post. I have other fun cars to drive as well, and they are also stored for the winter, but the one that I miss the most and the one that made me make this post is my Yaris. ***I changed the title of the thread to clear things up



What good to have a car and not drive it year round?
If I could afford a nice car, like an EVO or a GTR, it's going to be winter driven. Lol
But then, I'm probably not going to be a car keeper, change every 3-4years or something.

I’m the exact opposite. I love my Yaris, I’ve spent countless blood/sweat/tears/money getting it to where it is, and I enjoy it so much that I’d still like to be driving it 30 years from now (if they are still making and selling gasoline). Its only got about 20,000km's (13,000 miles) and its never seen cold weather nor snow and salt, so it should be around for a very long time. As for my other cars that are arguably more “appealing” (the MR2 and the Type R) , if I drove them through a winter(s), their value would be severely impacted.

yougojay
02-26-2015, 07:55 PM
When I lived outside of Chicago, I always had a 'winter beater' - Bought one in October & sold it in April. Stored a few cars during the winters there:
1972 Chevelle Convertible
1986 Z-24
1988 Fiero Formula
1990 Corvette Convertible
Would never drive them in the snow & ice & salt & freezing & thawing & spinning tires & wreaking havoc on the transmission & you get the picture...!
Personally, I think if you want to keep a car or cars for a long period of time ('cause you really like them) in your winter climate, this is the only way to go.

sheekeebut
02-26-2015, 08:09 PM
I, for a guy who can only drive one car, and with the means to only drive one car, have decided to drive that one car wherever my adventures lead me. My Yaris has seen much more than all my other previous cars combined, and doubtless the winter driving with it has taught me much more.

That's the best part about the Yaris, it's such a cheap car, that you could punish it, mod it, baby it, or even outright disrespect it, and no matter what kind of owner you are, I'm sure you'll still like it over many other cars in and out of its class.

nookandcrannycar
02-26-2015, 09:51 PM
I, for a guy who can only drive one car, and with the means to only drive one car, have decided to drive that one car wherever my adventures lead me. My Yaris has seen much more than all my other previous cars combined, and doubtless the winter driving with it has taught me much more.

That's the best part about the Yaris, it's such a cheap car, that you could punish it, mod it, baby it, or even outright disrespect it, and no matter what kind of owner you are, I'm sure you'll still like it over many other cars in and out of its class.

.....and on the opposite end of the spectrum.....

MSN - 10 Least reliable cars (per Consumer Reports...and MSN only lists 9)

1. Fiat 500L - 217% less reliable than average
2. Jeep Cherokee 4 Cylinder - 176% less reliable than average
3. Ford Fiesta - 162% less reliable than average
4. Nissan Pathfinder - 154% less reliable than average
5. Chevy Cruze 1.4T - 143% less reliable than average
6. Dodge Dart 1.4T - 140% less reliable than average
7. Jeep Grand Cherokee Diesel - 134% less reliable than average
8. Infiniti Q50 - 127% less reliable than average
9. Mercedes Benz S-Class - 127% less reliable than average

The article plus (ranking = via slideshow) also indicated that the least reliable Fiat 500L is 16 TIMES more likely to have problems than the car at the opposite end of the spectrum...the Scion xB.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q

Darkhorse6
03-01-2015, 10:48 PM
as much as i hate a salt brine covered car, this post makes me laugh. My Yaris will be driven until the wheels fall off, rain or shine.

sheekeebut
03-01-2015, 11:01 PM
I'm sure that even if that happened, you'd somehow be able to keep driving it. The number of rusted, dinged and dented Echos and Yarises I see zipping around Peel region is testament to their cockroach-like resilience.

nookandcrannycar
03-02-2015, 01:22 AM
cockroach-like resilience.

:laugh:

MUSKOKA800
03-04-2015, 04:26 PM
What good to have a car and not drive it year round?
If I could afford a nice car, like an EVO or a GTR, it's going to be winter driven. Lol
But then, I'm probably not going to be a car keeper, change every 3-4years or something.

My thoughts exactly. I've had hi-po cars that I've stashed away in the winter in favour of a ratty winter beater. The Yaris is a nice winter beater. :burnrubber:

3cyltrbo
03-06-2015, 10:19 AM
My thoughts exactly. I've had hi-po cars that I've stashed away in the winter in favour of a ratty winter beater. The Yaris is a nice winter beater. :burnrubber:

Personally I'm just a small car guy (love em) and for me, I've done a lot of stuff to mine (relatively speaking) and I love that every spring when I bring it out, its as clean as it is. One winter of driving in -40deg C and caked on road salt would undue all the care and attention I've paid to it over the years and for me that's not worth it .

I want to be able to still drive this car 15 years from now (it would be 20 years old then) and enjoy it like I do today. That simply would not be possible if I winter drove it.

Also I'm a stickler for a clean engine compartment, I like to think that mine is at least as clean as when it was brand new / but this is another area (engine compartment) that would take a beating if I drove it in the winter.

All of this is made easier by the fact that I'm not obligated to drive my fun cars because I'm lucky enough to have a reliable winter beater.

To each their own I guess

WC

MUSKOKA800
03-06-2015, 08:38 PM
Personally I'm just a small car guy (love em) and for me, I've done a lot of stuff to mine (relatively speaking) and I love that every spring when I bring it out, its as clean as it is. One winter of driving in -40deg C and caked on road salt would undue all the care and attention I've paid to it over the years and for me that's not worth it .

I want to be able to still drive this car 15 years from now (it would be 20 years old then) and enjoy it like I do today. That simply would not be possible if I winter drove it.

Also I'm a stickler for a clean engine compartment, I like to think that mine is at least as clean as when it was brand new / but this is another area (engine compartment) that would take a beating if I drove it in the winter.

All of this is made easier by the fact that I'm not obligated to drive my fun cars because I'm lucky enough to have a reliable winter beater.

To each their own I guess

WC

I can appreciate that. But personally, when the supercharger comes in at -20C, does it ever make power. Can't get that big a smile in the sweltering summer heat.

nookandcrannycar
03-10-2015, 02:19 AM
.....and on the opposite end of the spectrum.....

MSN - 10 Least reliable cars (per Consumer Reports...and MSN only lists 9)

1. Fiat 500L - 217% less reliable than average
2. Jeep Cherokee 4 Cylinder - 176% less reliable than average
3. Ford Fiesta - 162% less reliable than average
4. Nissan Pathfinder - 154% less reliable than average
5. Chevy Cruze 1.4T - 143% less reliable than average
6. Dodge Dart 1.4T - 140% less reliable than average
7. Jeep Grand Cherokee Diesel - 134% less reliable than average
8. Infiniti Q50 - 127% less reliable than average
9. Mercedes Benz S-Class - 127% less reliable than average

The article plus (ranking = via slideshow) also indicated that the least reliable Fiat 500L is 16 TIMES more likely to have problems than the car at the opposite end of the spectrum...the Scion xB.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosluxury/the-10-least-reliable-cars/ss-BBezB2q

The 'Best and Worst of 2015' Consumer Reports 'Book" is on sale now at Barnes and Noble....

Compact Car: Most Reliable - Scion xD
Least Reliable - Fiat 500L

Sub-Compact Car: Most Reliable - Toyota Yaris
Least Reliable - Ford Fiesta

matti
03-11-2015, 01:44 PM
The 'Best and Worst of 2015' Consumer Reports 'Book" is on sale now at Barnes and Noble....

Compact Car: Most Reliable - Scion xD
Least Reliable - Fiat 500L

Sub-Compact Car: Most Reliable - Toyota Yaris
Least Reliable - Ford Fiesta

I think the Fiestas look awesome, but I've heard too much s*it about them that I would never, ever consider one.

nookandcrannycar
03-11-2015, 10:23 PM
:burnrubber:I think the Fiestas look awesome, but I've heard too much s*it about them that I would never, ever consider one.

If I could own a Fiesta ST for the first 20k miles on the odometer and then be guaranteed that someone would buy it from me for the same amount I paid, then yes.....otherwise, no :biggrin:.

Ben_
03-12-2015, 01:29 AM
Love my yaris, I beat the ever living shit out of it and its been the most reliable thing in my life since I got it. I tell people its my punching bag because I drive it hard. Its a pizza delivery vehicle on the weekdays and auto x hs class slayer on the weekends. Its starts every time and has had no issues that I didn't directly cause. So far only parts broke are a significant amount of body damage, 2 steel rims, and a few lug nuts. I may beat on it but it always walks away each time i bash it into a curb or run it into a fence.

First impression for most people who ask what I own is, you drive one of those things?!?!?! What were you thinking?!?!?!

My response is its a Toyota thing you wouldn't understand

nookandcrannycar
03-12-2015, 04:29 PM
My response is its a Toyota thing you wouldn't understand

:laugh:

3cyltrbo
03-12-2015, 04:38 PM
Love my yaris, I beat the ever living shit out of it and its been the most reliable thing in my life since I got it. I tell people its my punching bag because I drive it hard. Its a pizza delivery vehicle on the weekdays and auto x hs class slayer on the weekends. Its starts every time and has had no issues that I didn't directly cause. So far only parts broke are a significant amount of body damage, 2 steel rims, and a few lug nuts. I may beat on it but it always walks away each time i bash it into a curb or run it into a fence.

First impression for most people who ask what I own is, you drive one of those things?!?!?! What were you thinking?!?!?!

My response is its a Toyota thing you wouldn't understand


Love this!!!!

Its very similar to my situation. My Yaris is my favorite of what I've got. I drive a nicely modded 2013 Civic Si / a pristine ultra-low mileage Integra Type R (1 owner before me) and a pristine ultra-low mileage Toyota Mr2 spyder (1 owner before me). and yet, for sheer.......... grin on my face / happy motoring I'd pick the Yaris time after time.

When people hear that the Yaris is the last car I would give up, they are usually aghast at the thought that if I could only keep 1 car it would be the Yaris.

none of my friends get it (even the so called car guys).

And like you, my Yaris has had some very hard driving and yet never ever even once has it come close to complaining about it (its always more than willing to try and do everything I ask of it)

I can't wait to drive it again (damn salty roads)

Will

Ben_
03-13-2015, 12:35 AM
Here's some fun photos Id like to share of my yaris on a long dirt path through a mountain pass near salt lake. These are from two different trips on the same trail. This trail was one of the roads used by the pilgrims who came to the salt lake valley on carriages

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/12/395437c14774b46c152b481cb96cfdec.jpg
These first two are two views from up and down the hill that I climbed down after taking these photos ;D
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/12/259c360eded47cff6e1982b47015ae9d.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/12/777fb787c72014a22d2efdc82922c8de.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/12/f08c737efc02048097c8ef6f29604050.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/12/4508054d1c09abeebff7952fe20ccdbf.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/12/688ef4c6eb8e2bd95d133c36cdbc551a.jpg

ern-diz
03-13-2015, 06:50 PM
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