Lets talk wheels

[birdy]

Sadly I think wheels and springs will be the first thing I do to my Yaris, I mean the car already has a peppy engine so I think some moderately wide rims and nice tires and a stiff suspension will do wonders for the car. What rims would everybody put on their Yaris? I am thinking something like 17x8 forged for lightweight and a 5 spoke to let more air in the cool the brakes. All these plans and I have to wait till april to set them free :thumbup:

[Mess11]

I hear ya, I've been waiting anxiously too but we only gotta wait another 2-3 months. It'll be here before you know it :) Wonder when these will first show up in the showroom.

I think 17's would look great on the car, just hope they're not too heavy. If you got something like Volks LE37's those things would be ridiculously light and 5 spoke like you want. :w00t:

[birdy]

i was thinking gram lights

[yariman]

I went with 5 spoke Eagles, 15x7 with Toyo Proxes T1-S 195/50 which give a smaller overall diameter which equals lower gearing which equals More Power!

[UndefinedDesign]

Four lug? I'll slap on my SVTf stockys if they fit.

[birdy]

Four lug? I'll slap on my SVTf stockys if they fit.
not hating but I think ford wheels on a toyota is tacky but if thats what you want then thats what you want.

[echo_hrs]

Four lug? I'll slap on my SVTf stockys if they fit.

They won't fit, Toyota Yaris bolt pattern is 4 x 100, Ford Focus is 4 x 108...

Cheers

[why?]

I was looking at Volks as well since they are prolly the lightest.

But I also really liked these wheels (http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/images/workequip01.jpg) from work. They are also supose to be on the light side.

Just not sure what size I'd go. I want smaller for weight, but I don't want it to look horrid.

[pegcityrs]

I just bolted on a set of 17 " light weight 5 spoke gunmetal grey with a polished lip Racing Heart STR with NEXON 205/45/17zr rubber. What a difference wheels and tires make alone.

[jcove]

I just bolted on a set of 17 " light weight 5 spoke gunmetal grey with a polished lip Racing Heart STR with NEXON 205/45/17zr rubber. What a difference wheels and tires make alone.

That sounds sweet. Do you have any pictures?

[AutoTech1]

Sadly I think wheels and springs will be the first thing I do to my Yaris, I mean the car already has a peppy engine so I think some moderately wide rims and nice tires and a stiff suspension will do wonders for the car. What rims would everybody put on their Yaris? I am thinking something like 17x8 forged for lightweight and a 5 spoke to let more air in the cool the brakes. All these plans and I have to wait till april to set them free :thumbup:

Starting with wheels and supension isn't a bad thing. But I'd recommend you get tires too. Sounds like a great plan. And lighter wheels are always a plus.

[LAHAL]

Can some one confirm that the wheels on the yaris are 4/100, because i'm buying some 18 x 7.5, and they only come in 4/100, so i wanna make sure they fit. Thanks.

[Adriaan]

Today i tested my summer mags & Tires from my old car, i was suprised to see that they fit. The mags are 14" and are 14*6 and the tires was a 205/60/14. I had no problems of touching anywhere. With the wheel turned to it max the most narrow point is about 1 inch & 2/8. Just incase anyone wanted to try this size. it does fit no problems. But it does take away some engine power if you do a quick take off. But other wise i couldn't really tell the difference. I'll put them on at the end of march to see when i make my first long distance trip with the car and see what results i get.

[yariman]

Hey LAHAL , the pattern is 4x100.:thumbsup:

[sumik]

If u want really lightweight go with either Volk or OZ, great rims but pricey :)
But with 106hp why r u guys wanna go with expensive and lightweight rims ? It's not like u have a mid-fast car. U'r gonna b on the bottom of racecars anyway.
Better save some money, and work on the engine, so at least it won't sound ridiculous when u brag u have $$$ rims, and then mention the 106hp :)

[why?]

The lighter the wheels the more power gets to the ground. The lighter the wheels the better gas mileage you get. I am sure you have heard that unsprung mass impacts car dynamics much more than sprung mass.

Weight is the enemy.

[yariman]

Excellent point!

[birdy]

I decided to get these.
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerofile/17810/962_gun_metal_large.jpg

clean rims

[why?]

What type are they? They look good, I like the dark center and chrome outer, I've been noticing that style more and more.

[birdy]

sportmax 962

[drell42]

Im getting the Core racing Evo 7's in a 16x7, its silver unless the changed it for the '06 model

[Idjiit]

Anyone know how much the stock 14" and 15" steel wheels/cover weigh (without the tires)?

[mao]

i dont know but anything that has something like this would be fine for me. im planning on getting suspension to lower the car more and get better wheels for the fitment.
180
does anyone notice how high the regular stock yaris is? or is it just me?

[why?]

The stock Yaris hb sits at 5.5" high. In comparison, the Camry sits at 5". It is definately on the high side.

[cburac]

Hello yaris fans, I'm almost ready to buy my set of wheels for my yaris hb, but i'm not sure about what size , my yaris came with 14' inches, the full version has 15' with 185/60 tires , I been looking differents sizes and models , the sales guy recomend me 15" with 195/50 tires , another sales guy recommend me 17" with 205/40 tires , I also consider 16" wheels so I'm kind of confused .. :iono:

any advices? :thumbsup:

cheers

carlos.

[why?]

The weight is almost more important than the size.

A few Vitz in Japan are running 19's, so any size will fit.

So go with what you think will look good.

For me, I am prolly going to go with 14" or 15", because the wheels will be very light.

[Idjiit]

BTW, from researching on the net, it looks like the stock 15" steel wheels that it looks like all of the US Convenience Package Yarises will be coming with weigh in at around 17lbs.

I'm most likely going to get 15x6.5 Rota Subzero's in Bronze (from http://www.subydude.com) which are 12lbs
http://subydude.com/osc/images/subzero-bronze.jpg

Or maybe 15x6.5 Rota Slipstreams, which are a tad lighter at 11.5 lbs:
http://subydude.com/osc/images/slipstream-charcoalgray.jpg

I'll probably just keep the stock tires on it until they wear out, and then get some Falkens.

[why?]

BTW, from researching on the net, it looks like the stock 15" steel wheels that it looks like all of the US Convenience Package Yarises will be coming with weigh in at around 17lbs.

I'm most likely going to get 15x6.5 Rota Subzero's in Bronze (from http://www.subydude.com) which are 12lbs
http://subydude.com/osc/images/subzero-bronze.jpg

Or maybe 15x6.5 Rota Slipstreams, which are a tad lighter at 11.5 lbs:
http://subydude.com/osc/images/slipstream-charcoalgray.jpg

I'll probably just keep the stock tires on it until they wear out, and then get some Falkens.

Ouch, 17lbs? What are they, concrete?

I guess I'll be looking for a local Volk Racing distributor faster than I thought.

[Idjiit]

Can you even get 15" Volks?

EDIT: Yes, you can - they make 15x5.5 TE-37's that are 8.5 lbs a piece, while the 15x6.5's are 10.5lbs a piece. Considering I can get a set of Rotas for the price of a single TE-37, I think I'll stick to the Rotas. ;)

[Idjiit]

Heh, maybe I'll get red after all, the bronze goes great with it...

http://www.swiftbennett.com/images/yaris/_W8F1024_with_slipstreams.jpg

[why?]

Can you even get 15" Volks?

EDIT: Yes, you can - they make 15x5.5 TE-37's that are 8.5 lbs a piece, while the 15x6.5's are 10.5lbs a piece. Considering I can get a set of Rotas for the price of a single TE-37, I think I'll stick to the Rotas. ;)

How much do the Rota's weigh?

for 8.5 lbs a piece, paying a little more for them is fine by me. I just checked online and one of the firsts links I saw was $355 per wheel for 15"x5.5", which weighs less than 8.16lbs.

You can buy 14" x 5.5" for $310.

For the 15" wheels, 8.16 * 4 is 32.64 lbs.

17 lbs * 4 lbs is 68 lbs.

That is half the weight.

Considering that some sources state that 1lb on the wheel equals 4 lbs above the suspension, if the car is daily driven the gas savings will prolly add up to be more than the extra cost of the wheels.

Edit: Rofl, I missed the posts with the weights.

I checked out the Rotas, and if my point wasn't to make my Yaris as light as humanly possible, I would be interested in them. They look good, and they are inexpensive as well.

[Idjiit]

Yeah, the Volks are really really light - pretty incredible. But we're getting ready to buy another house, so I'll make do with the Rotas for a while.

EDIT: This car is just for weekend driving and occasional errands since I work from home. I just want to eek out a bit more performance.

[why?]

lol, I edited my last post before refreshing. I am impressed with how inexpensive the Rota's are, and if my point in buying the Yaris wasn't to make it as light as humanly possible, I might buy those instead.

[Idjiit]

I suspect the silver isn't quite this dark in person, but if the silver really is on the redder side as suggested by Toyota's photos so far, bronze should look pretty killer on it as well...

http://www.swiftbennett.com/images/yaris/silver_with_slipstreams.jpg

Here's the blue just for the heck of it:

http://www.swiftbennett.com/images/yaris/blue_with_slipstreams.jpg

[why?]

It looks good with the silver.

I am prolly going to get the white TE 37's, with one of the blue Yaris 3 drs.

[Idjiit]

Blue and white will look killer on a Blue Liftback - I was thinking the same thing for a while. I just know my wife would make fun of me mercilessly if I did white. :lol:

Are you going to go for the 15x5.5's? Seems a little limiting in the tire selection department, but if you're going for light - that's certainly the way to go. I share your enthusiasm for trying to make it as light as possible, but I can't justify spending that kind of cash at this point. I do have a race seat ready to go into it, just have to figure out which base I need - not sure if you can use a Sparco xA base, or what.

[why?]

I am definately going with the stock wheel size, I am even considering going with 14" wheels, but finding good tires with that size is prolly asking too much.

I found it, lol. Stock 14's are 14x5 with an offset of 39, 15's are 15x5.5 with an offset of 45.

I'm going to check first to see if I can find any good 14" 175/65 tires. If not, I'll get the 15" 185/60, or maybe 15s with less sidewall.

[Idjiit]

You can get Falken Ziex 512's in that size:

http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=Falken&tiremodel=Ziex+ZE%2D512&pc=28%2D331%2D442

[Idjiit]

$35 per tire... nice... supposed to be great tires, too...

Here's a bunch in that size at Edge Racing...

http://www.edgeracing.com/tires/1756514/

[why?]

I found a bunch on Tirerack as well. I think I'll do the crazy thing and buy aftermarket wheels that are smaller than my stock wheels. lol.

[Idjiit]

Hah, that's definitely a first for me! It makes sense for acceleration, but at a certain point you're going start losing lateral grip. I think I'll stick with the 15x6.5. They're 6 pounds lighter than stock and it gives me more choices in tires in the long run.

[why?]

That is definately true, but the other thing is how much are you going to use the insane amounts of lateral grip high perfomance tires have on the street?

My Saab has pretty good high performance tires on it now, and I've literally never found their limits. I admit I don't go to fast much on the road besides the nice twisty road that is near where I live.

Most of the cornering problems I have is due to body roll. And that is insane since the Saab is rather low to begin with.

Modern tires have more grip than can be used on streets. This is why I think I can be happy with 14" tires. I am thinking I will get Michelin Harmony tires.

[Ryosuke]

Hi ppl, I'm going to mounto 18's on my yaris, but the model of wheel I like comes in 18x8 size. They're Giovanna Ararat http://www.wtwcorp.com/giovanna/wheels.php?wid=ARARAT%20w/OPT.%20CAP&wtype=car&wbrand=giovanna I also want to lower the car, If I put them on what size of tire should I use??? 215/40 r18, 225/40 r18??

Thanks

[why?]

ok, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Sorry, I had to get that out of my system.

While they look good, those are some of the heaviest wheels on the market.

I would go with the thinnest tires you can, or roll the fenders and use spacers. The 2nd option would prolly be best.

[YARISinWHITE]

Hi ppl, I'm going to mounto 18's on my yaris, but the model of wheel I like comes in 18x8 size. They're Giovanna Ararat http://www.wtwcorp.com/giovanna/wheels.php?wid=ARARAT%20w/OPT.%20CAP&wtype=car&wbrand=giovanna I also want to lower the car, If I put them on what size of tire should I use??? 215/40 r18, 225/40 r18??

Thanks

18" won't work, I tried 18" with 215-35-18 and it rub the inside when you do a large turn. Now I have 17" on with lowered spring, 205-40-17 and it still rub a bit when I turn my steering all the way to left side. But my reminder is you have to get a set of very light wheels, otherwise it will slow down the car a lot. :smile:

[Ryosuke]

Thanks for the advice, I have a set of 17's in my house from my last car (99 corolla) they're Tenzo R apex5 and I probably put on my yaris when I pick up from the dealer next week, but i was thinking of something bigger and chrome because my yaris is black.

[birdy]

i wonder how the optional trd 18's would look powdercoated black with a red lip...

[why?]

Pretty darn good I bet.

18's will fit, you just need to make sure they aren't too wide.

Rolling the fenders and adding spacers would prevent them from rubbing as well.

It just takes a little more effort, but I bet it would be worth it.

[YARISinWHITE]

Pretty darn good I bet.

18's will fit, you just need to make sure they aren't too wide.

Rolling the fenders and adding spacers would prevent them from rubbing as well.

It just takes a little more effort, but I bet it would be worth it.

18" might work but you probably need to do some adjustment on the camber. But 17" looks OK for me. :thumbsup:

[Kenbow]

Thanks for the advice, I have a set of 17's in my house from my last car (99 corolla) they're Tenzo R apex5 and I probably put on my yaris when I pick up from the dealer next week, but i was thinking of something bigger and chrome because my yaris is black.

Try to Ryosuke-san 18inch
Although Wheel contacts the fender line drive and underwear a little there is an impact
Even I am fixing it 18inch
Why a/the body is black wheel is chrome

http://vitzliste.up.seesaa.net/image/KenbowVitz.jpg

[Ron]

18" won't work, I tried 18" with 215-35-18 and it rub the inside when you do a large turn. Now I have 17" on with lowered spring, 205-40-17 and it still rub a bit when I turn my steering all the way to left side. But my reminder is you have to get a set of very light wheels, otherwise it will slow down the car a lot. :smile:

problem is either your tire is too wide, your offset is too high, or both. 215/35/18 is actually roughly the same diameter as the stock yaris RS 185/60/15 sizing

[GD-RS]

Ok guys. I'm going to start this off by admitting that I have next to no knowlwdge on wheels etc so bare with me.
I was simply looking for something that looked good, but after having read all these posts about weight being such a key issue I'm starting to rethink my decision. I went and checked out the weight of the wheels I was interested in (17") and it turns out they're like 20lbs!!
What I'm asking is, is this really a big deal? I know most will say yes, but I'm not going to be taking the car to the track anytime soon, so is performance really affected that much?

oh and PS...I can't afford ultra light weight super wheels...any ideas?

[Idjiit]

oh and PS...I can't afford ultra light weight super wheels...any ideas?

Sure you can, you just have to look around. Even the Falken Hanabis, which is an 11lb wheel can be had for $89 if you look around...

http://www.edgeracing.com/images/wheel/falken_wheel_hanabi_(anodized_bronze)_angle_zoom.j pg

http://www.edgeracing.com/wheels/falken_wheel

Beyond that, there's a bunch of inexpensive Rotas that'll do the trick.

And yes, it makes a noticeable difference in a car with only 105HP.

[Master]

i'm going to try to get the deepest dish 17 or 18 inch wheel i can.

i don't care about lightness...i care about looking pimp :)

[GD-RS]

Well see, that my thing too! I know this car isn't exactly built for speed so I'm not going to spend too much time or $ trying to tune it, but at the same time, I do want to get the most out of it.

According to most posts on this topic smaller and lighter is better, so I've been looking at 15" Konig Heliums which weigh like 10lbs. However, compared to the 17" Motegi DP12's (21lbs!!) they look like they belong on a dinky car.

I have no idea what to do...

[birdy]

you can always get your fenders rolled to fit an 18x8.5 rolling them usually give you a good hafl inch extra.

[birdy]

actually does anybody have a straight on pic of the optional trd rims? I want to see what somethign looks like.

[Ron]

this is what i'll be using: http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTIyNDE2MDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

[why?]

Well see, that my thing too! I know this car isn't exactly built for speed so I'm not going to spend too much time or $ trying to tune it, but at the same time, I do want to get the most out of it.

According to most posts on this topic smaller and lighter is better, so I've been looking at 15" Konig Heliums which weigh like 10lbs. However, compared to the 17" Motegi DP12's (21lbs!!) they look like they belong on a dinky car.

I have no idea what to do...

There are plenty of relatively lightweight 17's out there as well.

All BBS wheels are relatively light, as are OZ wheels. You just have to look around.

[Thirty-Nine]

Personally, I wouldn't put anything bigger than a 17 on my Yaris. I had 18s on my xB, and the handling and acceleration wasn't as good as the 16s I replaced them with. Plus, the 16s offer less rotational mass and unsprung weight. With only 106 hp, I think an 18 — even a lightweight 18 — is too much for the 1NZ-FE. This is of course all perofrmance-based opinion, not looks.

[LAHAL]

so question. i don't know much about wheels, actually i know nothing. i know what spacers r, but does this really help with not having the wheel rub? just a question, and does anyone have a pic of what rolling a fender means?

Thanks

[why?]

Spacers will help the inside of the wheel not rub in corners. Basically they will increase the positive offset of the wheels.

[why?]

Does anybody know if +35 offset wheels would be okay for the Yaris. More specifically, 14x5 +35 wheels.

[Master]

it'll probably fit...you might need a spacer for the front because it might rub the caliper, but test fit it.

the back is more than fine...you'll actually probably need to get a 10mm spacer to fillin the wheel well

why such small wheels?

[why?]

Weight.

The +45 wheels weigh about 1/4 lb more for each wheel.

The 15x5.5's weigh almost 1 lb more.

I'm not going to race the car, and I believe I can find a set of tires that will handle well enough for me.

Oh, plus there is nothing wrong with 4 wheel drifts.:thumbsup:

[SmellyTofu]

Spacers will help the inside of the wheel not rub in corners. Basically they will increase the positive offset of the wheels.

You mean decrease positive offset.

[Blenjar]

http://www.tirerack.com/servlet/CallJsp?target=wheelSearchCloseUp&wheelIndex=14&sizeIndex=0&showRear=no&setIndex=1&filterSize=17&filterFinish=Painted&filterSpecial=Pricing
whats the weight on those? i looked all over but hte right places.

and what do you think of these
http://www.tirerack.com/servlet/CallJsp?target=wheelSearchCloseUp&wheelIndex=4&sizeIndex=0&showRear=no&setIndex=0&filterSize=16&filterFinish=Painted&filterSpecial=Pricing
-- Blen

EDIT: and what are also good tires? brandwise. And also these wheels.
http://ww2.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2469_4337_3068_4842/products_id/22770?osCsid=03ef421be2f1554c4d8ab9365e578fb3
http://ww2.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2469_4337_3068_4841/products_id/22739?osCsid=03ef421be2f1554c4d8ab9365e578fb3
And also i hope they bring some Halo Rings for the heatlights and few cool taillights. no doubt bout that, the tailights isnt sexy.

[Blenjar]

What's the difference between 18x7 and 18x7.5
Is it a big differences?

1: I'm new to this so I can it plain and simple, which size will not reduce the performance out of the Yaris HB?:iono:

2: And if there is a way to put the biggest rims on and doing something to fix the issue about the wheels touching what in the where of the car, what will it be and cost? is it worth it tho?

Thanks in advance.:burnrubber:

-- Blen

[Master]

you can fit 18x7.5 with a 45 offset running a 215 40 18 wheel.

you might have to cut or roll the fender as well as heat gun the front plastic molding where it'll probably hit when you turn the wheel to the max.

in all it should not cost you more than 100 bucks to do all of that. the fender rolling should be around 50 bucks and you can just buy a heat gun, use it, and return it :)

[Master]

oh and you guys care too much about wheel weight, but that's just me.

you have no idea how silly 14 or 15 inch aftermarket wheels are gonna look :)

[Idjiit]

oh and you guys care too much about wheel weight, but that's just me.

you have no idea how silly 14 or 15 inch aftermarket wheels are gonna look :)

You have no idea how silly you look to all of us.

[Blenjar]

so for the wheels i can fit 18x7.5 with 4x100 should be what I'm looking for? well then again the wheels gets heavier..16,17 looks more right...
Anyone knows the lbs on the O.Z. Record?

[Master]

You have no idea how silly you look to all of us.

asian kids alway's look silly to y'all ;)

[Ron]

oh and you guys care too much about wheel weight, but that's just me.

you have no idea how silly 14 or 15 inch aftermarket wheels are gonna look :)

im really on the fence with this one

on the one hand, our cars come with so little power, that every bit of weight you can save especially unsprung weight will go a ways to increase or maintain the performance. on the other hand, if i wanted a real performance vehicle, im not sure i would have ended up with a yaris.

actually i guess im not really on the fence, with my heavy 16" TRD rims. all show, no go.

[why?]

http://www.tirerack.com/servlet/CallJsp?target=wheelSearchCloseUp&wheelIndex=14&sizeIndex=0&showRear=no&setIndex=1&filterSize=17&filterFinish=Painted&filterSpecial=Pricing
whats the weight on those? i looked all over but hte right places.

and what do you think of these
http://www.tirerack.com/servlet/CallJsp?target=wheelSearchCloseUp&wheelIndex=4&sizeIndex=0&showRear=no&setIndex=0&filterSize=16&filterFinish=Painted&filterSpecial=Pricing
-- Blen

EDIT: and what are also good tires? brandwise. And also these wheels.
http://ww2.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2469_4337_3068_4842/products_id/22770?osCsid=03ef421be2f1554c4d8ab9365e578fb3
http://ww2.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2469_4337_3068_4841/products_id/22739?osCsid=03ef421be2f1554c4d8ab9365e578fb3
And also i hope they bring some Halo Rings for the heatlights and few cool taillights. no doubt bout that, the tailights isnt sexy.

Can't see the wheels, tirerack doesn't save sessions.

As for finding weight, go to your favorite search engine and type the name of the wheel followed by the word "weight." Usually something will pop up.

I found that Volk Ce28Ns 15x7 should weigh about 9 lbs.

For tires, tirerack.com is a pretty good place to look. Most of the tires have user surveys. Also, Car&Driver did a tire review you can find here. (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10252/tire-test-the-quick-and-the-tread.html)
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It comes down to why you bought the vehicle. I bought it to be my daily driver, and for the gas mileage. I plan on making it as light as possible so that I can get the best mpg I can. Every pound counts when it comes to weight.

[Master]

why? - looks like you're willing to drop alot on buying light wheels.... why not look into the TE37 Magnesium forged or other Ray's Magnesium wheels ;)

[Blenjar]

http://www.wheelweights.net/

[Thirty-Nine]

why? - looks like you're willing to drop alot on buying light wheels.... why not look into the TE37 Magnesium forged or other Ray's Magnesium wheels ;)


Magnesium wheels = super light, but not good for the street.

[why?]

They aren't magnesium wheels, lol.

Very few wheels are magnesium now.

The TE37s are forged monoblock aluminum.here is how they do it. (http://www.mackinindustries.com/md/rays/forgedmonoblock.html)

The CE28N is also monoblock forged aluminum. The 14x5.5 CE28N supposedly weighs only 6.39 lbs. I thought the TE37's were the lightest, but obviously I was wrong.

Hmm, anyone know of anything lighter than 6.39lbs for 14x5.5 wheels? Not sure if that is possible, lol.

[Master]

haha no rays makes some special magnesium forged wheels. i think only three models and one is a type of te37

[C2AUTOSPL]

IMO 16in will look best for the YAris