Base Honda Fit only $800 more than base Yaris. Why is that?

[matti]

First, I know the Fit vs. Yaris topic has been discussed here quite a bit. I'm not asking about which one is better.

I'm simply curious why the base Fit (LX, 6sp manual) is only $800 more than the base Yaris (L, 5sp manual)? A lot of folks think the Fit has more features than the Yaris, as I understand. (Whether you/I care about those features is for another thread!) It seems that for that $800, you're getting more stuff. How does component costs, labor costs, etc. come in to play here?

[nookandcrannycar]

^^^^^ If anyone actually purchases a base '15 Fit (especially a manual transmission one) for the sticker price (or less), I'd be interested in hearing about that.

[nookandcrannycar]

First, I know the Fit vs. Yaris topic has been discussed here quite a bit. I'm not asking about which one is better.

I'm simply curious why the base Fit (LX, 6sp manual) is only $800 more than the base Yaris (L, 5sp manual)? A lot of folks think the Fit has more features than the Yaris, as I understand. (Whether you/I care about those features is for another thread!) It seems that for that $800, you're getting more stuff. How does component costs, labor costs, etc. come in to play here?

Building a car in France for North America vs. building a car in Mexico for North America.

[CrankyOldMan]

Honda is also ruthless in their pursuit of cost reduction for components from suppliers. I can't speak for Toyota--we don't make any Toyota parts yet--but the Honda parts we make undergo significant scrutiny for every last mill (thousandth of a dollar) of savings before production approval.

I agree that there is likely significant cost savings associated with NAFTA vs. countries with organized labor.

[caaront]

I saw a Fit one day and would be hard pressed to drive one for free, would rather make payments on my Yaris than drive a Fit for free.

Very ugly styling to me.

[WorkTL]

I would drive the wheels off a free Fit. :)

[nookandcrannycar]

I would drive the wheels off a free Fit. :)

:laugh:. Yeah, in the right color, I actually like the styling of the '15 Fit better than older ones. I have some caveats (currently) re the quality control of the '15, but getting one for free (even if the value counted as income and one had to pay tax on that) would make up for that concern :biggrin:.

[kimona]

:laugh:. Yeah, in the right color, I actually like the styling of the '15 Fit better than older ones. I have some caveats (currently) re the quality control of the '15, but getting one for free (even if the value counted as income and one had to pay tax on that) would make up for that concern :biggrin:.

I think the '15 Fit looks better, too. Quality issues aside, where do I sign up for a free one? I'll take any colour!

[nookandcrannycar]

where do I sign up for a free one? I'll take any colour!
:laugh:

[KingForADay]

I test drove a base '15 Fit last month and it has good power for this category. The standard backup camera is a nice touch too. But I paid nearly half for the '13 Yaris I bought a couple weeks ago, and having no car payment on a great car is worth way more to me than a feature here or there.

[matti]

^^^^^ If anyone actually purchases a base '15 Fit (especially a manual transmission one) for the sticker price (or less), I'd be interested in hearing about that.

My local dealer is selling one for ~$150 under sticker from what I can tell.

[Jcp123]

I would drive the wheels off a free Fit. :)

I'm driving the wheels off of a free Echo...a car I used to despise :D

[bronsin]

Give men a Free Fit and I will sell it for $$$$$ and keep driving my Yaris! :laugh:

Reason: I want a two door model and Fit only comes with four (too small for me to get in and out) I don't believe there is any other small car sold with the two door option.

Also Im not believing that $800 difference thing.:confused: (that may be wrong of me)

[bronsin]

I'm driving the wheels off of a free Echo...a car I used to despise :D

Socrates said "Blessed Is The Man Who Is Persuaded"

My hat is off to you my friend! :bow:

Almost 90% of car reviews by outfits like Edmunds dismiss small cars with distain! :iono: Like "You poor slob if all you afford to drive is one of these things!" :frown:

[Hershey]

We thought of purchasing a base '15 FIT w/ the C.V.T.. Won't be thanks to all the problems owners are posting .

[Kalispel]

We thought of purchasing a base '15 FIT w/ the C.V.T.. Won't be thanks to all the problems owners are posting .

Honda has a spotty history with automatic transmissions, and there is no way I would buy any Honda that wasn't manual. In fact, the 9 new Honda/Acura vehicles that I have purchased from 1980 to 2004 have all been 5-speed manual. My next vehicle (planning on a lower-mileage white 2009-2011 Yaris sedan in July/Aug this year) will be my first non-Honda/Acura vehicle, and possibly my first automatic transmission as well. :eek:

[attrapereves]

It may just be me, but the new Honda Fits look like a compact mini van.

See the similarities?

http://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2013/07/2015-honda-fit-hybrid.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/sml/2015-honda-odyssey-5dr-ex-l-angular-front-exterior-view_100481462_s.jpg

[Kalispel]

It may just be me, but the new Honda Fits look like a compact mini van.

See the similarities?

http://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2013/07/2015-honda-fit-hybrid.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/sml/2015-honda-odyssey-5dr-ex-l-angular-front-exterior-view_100481462_s.jpg

I agree that it does.

Also,that upper, side "character line" groove just look horrible on the latest Fit (someone was watching too many bad Transformers movies). Plus, Honda seems to be loving those ginormous gaping fog-light inlets on their front bumpers (see the latest Civic Coup front and upcoming ILX refresh front AND back bumpers for more examples of this). The Fit also now has those gaping pockets on both the front and the back side bumpers - and the way those rear taillights creep up the back window to the roof-line is just awful-looking. The latest Fit is easily one of the ugliest new cars now on the road.

[nookandcrannycar]

My local dealer is selling one for ~$150 under sticker from what I can tell.

Wow. Around Houston, no way from what I've seen.

[attrapereves]

Before the wife got her new car, we looked at a Honda Fit. This was back in September, right after the new models were released. The dealer offered sticker price, no less. We passed and bought something different for her.

[ern-diz]

It may just be me, but the new Honda Fits look like a compact mini van.

Wow, hit the nail on the head. :bonk:

[nookandcrannycar]

Before the wife got her new car, we looked at a Honda Fit. This was back in September, right after the new models were released. The dealer offered sticker price, no less. We passed and bought something different for her.

Was it a manual though? Harder to find, and (at least in the Houston area) in demand...possibly re it being a 6-speed.

[kimona]

If you think the FIT is ugly, check this out. Now that's what I call ugly!

[bronsin]

Bizarre.

[matti]

If you think the FIT is ugly, check this out. Now that's what I call ugly!

I think the 2015 Yaris looks better than the 2015 Fit, overall. However, the grille on the Yaris is pretty yucky!

[kimona]

^^^ I test drove the 2015 Yaris L yesterday. Some things I liked about it. But, that grille was a definite deal breaker. Life is too short to drive a car that ugly... even if it is a Toyota.

[nookandcrannycar]

If you think the FIT is ugly, check this out. Now that's what I call ugly!

:laugh:

[nookandcrannycar]

Almost 90% of car reviews by outfits like Edmunds dismiss small cars with distain! :iono: Like "You poor slob if all you afford to drive is one of these things!" :frown:

Consumer Reports comes first to my mind :biggrin:.

[nookandcrannycar]

It may just be me, but the new Honda Fits look like a compact mini van.

See the similarities?

http://www.autoguide.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2013/07/2015-honda-fit-hybrid.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/sml/2015-honda-odyssey-5dr-ex-l-angular-front-exterior-view_100481462_s.jpg

I don't think the '15 Fit looks good in either the blue or the red :thumbdown:. My two favorite colors for most cars....silver, and white. Some cars don't look good in either color. I think the '15 Fit looks good in white, and in silver. I think the 2nd Gen Yaris 3-door looks good in white with either the stock wheels and covers, or aftermarket alloys. However, if I had only been able to find a white '14 manual 3-door and not a silver one, I would have purchased the white one...but I would have looked to get aftermarket alloy wheels. I like the way Tooter's car looks. I don't like the 3rd Gen 3-door in white with the stock wheels/covers.

[matti]

I don't think the '15 Fit looks good in either the blue or the red :thumbdown:. My two favorite colors for most cars....silver, and white. Some cars don't look good in either color. I think the '15 Fit looks good in white, and in silver. I think the 2nd Gen Yaris 3-door looks good in white with either the stock wheels and covers, or aftermarket alloys. However, if I had only been able to find a white '14 manual 3-door and not a silver one, I would have purchased the white one...but I would have looked to get aftermarket alloy wheels. I like the way Tooter's car looks. I don't like the 3rd Gen 3-door in white with the stock wheels/covers.

I also tend to like white. My last three cars (2005 Corolla, 2007 Corolla, 2012 Yaris) were/are white. However, for whatever reason, I think I might try something next for my next car. I'm digging the dark gray (not sure of the official color name) the Toyota offers for the Yaris.

[Kalispel]

If you think the FIT is ugly, check this out. Now that's what I call ugly!

Yeah, I would need to buy a black 2015 SE just to tone down that gaping front grill and those ridiculous, mostly-black alloy wheels to acceptable levels - and buying/owning a black/dark car in southern AZ is not something that I would relish doing. :evil:

[fnkngrv]

That grille is hideous for sure. The best thing you could do is research prior to purchase for an aftermarket body kit and go from there. I am going to be test driving the new Lexus IS 250 and 350 today as I am guuning for one of them to replace my sedan as a daily by end of the year and that Lexus grille is a little tough to swallow as well.

[fnkngrv]

As for the Fit looking like a micro minivan that car has been that way for the last 10 years.

[nookandcrannycar]

That grille is hideous for sure. The best thing you could do is research prior to purchase for an aftermarket body kit and go from there. I am going to be test driving the new Lexus IS 250 and 350 today as I am guuning for one of them to replace my sedan as a daily by end of the year and that Lexus grille is a little tough to swallow as well.

A new F Sport IS was parked next to me this morning. Yeah, the grille is pretty prominent.

[attrapereves]

Was it a manual though? Harder to find, and (at least in the Houston area) in demand...possibly re it being a 6-speed.

Nah, it was an automatic in silver color.

[fnkngrv]

A new F Sport IS was parked next to me this morning. Yeah, the grille is pretty prominent.
Doesn't bother me so much on the crafted line or the grey at least. BTW, my test drives went really well and I am pretty sure that I will be picking up the 350, but not 100% yet. It will depend on what I think about the Focus RS.

[bairjo]

If you think the FIT is ugly, check this out. Now that's what I call ugly!


looks like they forgot the middle bumper section....there ya go guys...your first mod to the 2015 is a middle bumper add on.:laugh: