bumper bracket arms for vis rs bumper

[Innovative 1]

Need to find part numbers or where I can get front bumper brackt arms for my vis rs style bumper im about to put on. Please help me out if you can.

[ezhacker1]

This is what i've found, ill have to look at my actual bracket for 100% certainty

http://jp-carparts.com/images/parts/112120/112120_5201_0002.png

LH Bracket: 57014-52010
RH Bracket: 57013-52010

[ilikerice]

In relation to this. I have a 2010. If I wanted to put on a 2008 front bumper. Are these the parts I will need or do I need more parts like 51365A and is the 52021 the same?

[ezhacker1]

08 RS? The usdm bumper didnt change between the 06-08 and 09-11 years. So you can keep your stock bar, just need those shorter brackets.

Now if you go with 09 RS, there is no modification required to the front bumper support system. everything goes right on.

[IllusionX]

You will also need the < 08 headlights, as 09+ have slightly different headlights. or if you don't mind the gap, just go ahead.

[WeeYari]

Let's keep it clear here and not get the OP confused.

OP owns a 2007 on which he will be mounting a 2006-2008 Vitz RS replica bumper. No need to be talking about '09 headlights in his thread, or at least, reference who you are responding to. I think it has come as a shock to him that he will need to be addressing the crash bar. Don't want him getting freaked out by not interpreting all posts in this thread correctly.

[Astroman]

He does NOT need brackets to do this swap! He will NOT need new headlights! He WILL need a jdm crash bar. I did the swap back in late 2009 and know exactly what he needs.

Ilikerice- your 2010 will need headlights from a 2006-2008 to do this swap.

[WeeYari]

Is this the one?

http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Toyota-52021-35020-Bumper-Reinforcement/dp/B005VVSH30

Lots of hits for part# 52021 but notice that 52021-XXXXX has multiple values for the -XXXXX portion of the part#

[IllusionX]

In relation to this. I have a 2010. If I wanted to put on a 2008 front bumper. Are these the parts I will need or do I need more parts like 51365A and is the 52021 the same?

YOUR fault for confusing people :)

[ilikerice]

:redface:

mybads

sorry OP

[Innovative 1]

LH Bracket: 57014-52010
RH Bracket: 57013-52010
Well I ordered the left and right brackets. Are you saying that this wont work Astroman? Read that I need the shorter brackets to move stock crash bar in an and bumper will fit.

[Astroman]

When I had mine done and I and the toyota body shop talked to Garm at the now defunct microimage he said the only thing I needed was the jdm crash bar as it's a different shape and doesn't stick out so far, they didn't have to touch the brackets. If someone was to replace both the crash bar and the brackets (assuming they're shorter than USDM) it would be too short. You'll have to get the crash bar for sure so you'll need to order anyway. Just keep the brackets unopened and return them if you don't need them.

Did anyone try looking up the part number for the USDM brackets to see if they're the same?

Also I think I saved the repair bill which has all the part numbers if you'd like I can check it.

[ezhacker1]

The JDM is not shorter in depth or length in fact the JDM one uses extra sheetmetal sections in place of the usdm foam absorber.

Yes the brackets are shorter than usdm. I have JDM brackets and crash bar, but found out that usdm crash bar + JDM brackets works just the same, the key is the brackets.

This is assuming the replica bumper is the same as the real RS one.

[Innovative 1]

So I should be on the right path with the shorter bracketsi hope. Dont know how accurate the vis is to the oem rs bumper so will just have to wait and see I guess. Gonna have body shop paint the vis bumper anyways and put it on myself. If I need a different crash bar I will find one then. No harm np foul.

[WeeYari]

Two things we are going to learn through you;

- vis Vitz RS replica bumper quality/fitment
- crash bar vs brackets dilemma

You best make sure you come back when all is said and done! What is the eta on completing this job anyway?

[ilikerice]

3 years

[Innovative 1]

Thats for sure. I will post what comes of all this confusion.

[KCALB SIRAY]

Astro is right, you do not need the shorter brackets.

Also, I used my stock USDM crash bar and just notched it to fit. It's snug, but it fits so I can see how the slimmer JDM crash bar would work without getting shorter brackets. Here is my RS front on with the stock USDM crash bar and brackets. BTW, the rear USDM can also be notched to fit the RS bumper. See below for both fitted.



When I had mine done and I and the toyota body shop talked to Garm at the now defunct microimage he said the only thing I needed was the jdm crash bar as it's a different shape and doesn't stick out so far, they didn't have to touch the brackets. If someone was to replace both the crash bar and the brackets (assuming they're shorter than USDM) it would be too short. You'll have to get the crash bar for sure so you'll need to order anyway. Just keep the brackets unopened and return them if you don't need them.

Did anyone try looking up the part number for the USDM brackets to see if they're the same?

Also I think I saved the repair bill which has all the part numbers if you'd like I can check it.

[ezhacker1]

Ok not trying to get into an argument here, I love YW peeps.

Yes, you can notch or cut into the stock bumpers. I wouldn't know first hand because i went with the real JDM route. For the rear, I have C-One bumper brace bar, instead of reusing USDM and cutting the corners off. Would I trust the C-one bar in a crash probably not, but i still have my stock rear one if i want to go that route?

For the front, also no first hand experience, but if you have to notch it, then that is saying that it isn't compatible with JDM. I can do side by side pictures of the USDM/JDM - brackets/bar on and off the car to illustrate.

[WeeYari]

I can do side by side pictures of the USDM/JDM - brackets/bar on and off the car to illustrate.

Please do.

Also, could somebody please respond to post#8?

[KCALB SIRAY]

I think something got lost in translation. My point was you can notch the existing USDM crash bars, not notching the JDM bumpers. So notching front and rear will work with front and rear JDM bumpers while retaining USDM crash bars.

BUUUUT this doesn't jive with the OP's wants anyways so I just threw it out there as an option that can be done in case he/she can't get what is needed.

Ok not trying to get into an argument here, I love YW peeps.

Yes, you can notch or cut into the stock bumpers. I wouldn't know first hand because i went with the real JDM route. For the rear, I have C-One bumper brace bar, instead of reusing USDM and cutting the corners off. Would I trust the C-one bar in a crash probably not, but i still have my stock rear one if i want to go that route?

For the front, also no first hand experience, but if you have to notch it, then that is saying that it isn't compatible with JDM. I can do side by side pictures of the USDM/JDM - brackets/bar on and off the car to illustrate.

[Innovative 1]

Now your wanting me to get the rear vis rs bumper. Decisions decisions. That looks sic KCALB SIRAY!

[ezhacker1]

I think something got lost in translation. My point was you can notch the existing USDM crash bars, not notching the JDM bumpers. So notching front and rear will work with front and rear JDM bumpers while retaining USDM crash bars.


No i got it lol. I know what you mean. Notching or cutting the USDM would work, but thats more effort vs just getting the right parts in the first place.

[Innovative 1]

How much should I trim off if I need too?

[ezhacker1]

Please do.

Also, could somebody please respond to post#8?

The JDM brace looks exactly like the brace pictured in post 2.
Mine is pretty mangled from a lady backing into my car, but ill have the time to do the photo comparisons i mentioned in the day.

[Innovative 1]

Cool beans. Dont want to cut it too much or not enough.

[ezhacker1]

Ok so here it is, the comparison between JDM brace and bracket to USDM with authentic JDM bumper.
** Yeah the black jdm one is beat up from a crash, but still illustrates my point**

Both bumper beams are the same length but the depth, protrudes out more on the JDM (uses metal in place of foam absorber), height is the same. Using stock beam and brackets, obviously the bumper wont clip on but to illustrate it see the picture.

Basically, you need the JDM brackets to fit authentic JDM bumper. On the last picture, you can see where the real one has the protruding plastic about 2 inches. Im guessing that the fiberglass ones dont.

[beaker]

Not to hijack the thread, but what about the Euro versions of the RS bumper covers? Are they the same as the JDM bumper covers(front and back)? Was wondering what I would need, brackets/crash bar to fit Euro RS bumper covers to a US made car. I have found some Euro RS bumper covers, but don't want to drop the money for them if they won't work.

Thanks in advance.

[beaker]

Ok so here it is, the comparison between JDM brace and bracket to USDM with authentic JDM bumper.
** Yeah the black jdm one is beat up from a crash, but still illustrates my point**

Both bumper beams are the same length but the depth, protrudes out more on the JDM (uses metal in place of foam absorber), height is the same. Using stock beam and brackets, obviously the bumper wont clip on but to illustrate it see the picture.

Basically, you need the JDM brackets to fit authentic JDM bumper. On the last picture, you can see where the real one has the protruding plastic about 2 inches. Im guessing that the fiberglass ones dont.

How much difference in depth between a JDM crash bar/JDM brackets setup vs. US crash bar/brackets setup? I thought the JDM bumper covers were shorter than the US bumper covers, so I would think if you were gonna run say a JDM set up, you would need crash bar and brackets from a JDM car. From your pics, it looks like the JDM brackets are shorter than the US ones, but the JDM crash bar is actually deeper than the US one, which seems odd that the JDM crash bar would be deeper since the bumper cover is shorter. Almost seems like with the differences in the parts, you could run either setup, US bar/US brackets or JDM bar/JDM brackets, and be roughly the same depth.

[ezhacker1]

I'd say 2 inch differnce, yes if you want to go full JDM like I once had, do it. But after the crash. I tried the usdm bar and I was surprised it works.

Like I said , JDM protrudes out cuz the extra sheet metal is acting like the foam absorber that a usdm has. I think what makes the difference is the JDM is swiss cheesed so the bumper extrusions I pictured. Just mate inside the bumper holes.

So yeah most people have replicas so maybe cutting into stock works if you want to go that way.

[beaker]

I'd say 2 inch differnce, yes if you want to go full JDM like I once had, do it. But after the crash. I tried the usdm bar and I was surprised it works.

Like I said , JDM protrudes out cuz the extra sheet metal is acting like the foam absorber that a usdm has. I think what makes the difference is the JDM is swiss cheesed so the bumper extrusions I pictured. Just mate inside the bumper holes.

So yeah most people have replicas so maybe cutting into stock works if you want to go that way.

Cool, thanks for the info. Now just gotta wait until the OP gets his VIS bumper, to see if it's setup to use JDM or US crash bar and brackets.

[Innovative 1]

Thinking I made the right choice in getting the shorter brackets. Before I am 100% certain of this I will try to fit the vis rs fiberglass bumper using stock brackets and crash bar. If fits return brackets I guess.
Thanks for the pics ezhacker. Worth a thousand words.

[ezhacker1]

No problem, just helping out the community. Once you get your bumper in the mail, we can add that information for replica bumper / brace/ bracket compatibility.

I might do a comparison of the stock rear and C-One bumper brace.

[beaker]

Another thought I had about the VIS replica bumper cover is whether or not it comes with the JDM upper and lower grill inserts, or aftermarket wire mesh.

Please let us know when you get it in.

[Innovative 1]

Will be here tomorrow.

[Astroman]

Im curious to see how it works for you as mine was done with just the crash bar per Toyota. Mine goes into the body shop tomorrow and i have another vitz rs bumper replica that will be installed.

[ezhacker1]

Nice, hope it all works out with both your guy's car. When i had a replica, it didnt fit even with jdm bar on stock brackets, cuz i know i tried every combo possible. Plus the fact the thing never fit anyhow, i smashed it up and tossed it. Fiberglass should be more workable, this was in ABS plastic.

[Innovative 1]

The shorter brackets were the answer. Removed stock longer ones and put on shorter ones with stock crash bar and fits perfect. The vis is a nice bumper. Only one gripe. Doesnt come with the abs rs upper and lower grills. Came with metal weave in both locations. Found lower grill on jp-carparts.com but having a hard time locating upper abs grill piece. The kaminari reverse cowl hood fits perfectly as well. Will post pics when car is done at body shop for paint and the fixing of all dings and dents.
thanks to kcalb siray and ezhacker1 for pointing me in the right direction. And thanks to everyone on this thread for the help.
Cant wait to see it all put together and painted. I think it will look sick!

[beaker]

The shorter brackets were the answer. Removed stock longer ones and put on shorter ones with stock crash bar and fits perfect. The vis is a nice bumper. Only one gripe. Doesnt come with the abs rs upper and lower grills. Came with metal weave in both locations. Found lower grill on jp-carparts.com but having a hard time locating upper abs grill piece. The kaminari reverse cowl hood fits perfectly as well. Will post pics when car is done at body shop for paint and the fixing of all dings and dents.
thanks to kcalb siray and ezhacker1 for pointing me in the right direction. And thanks to everyone on this thread for the help.
Cant wait to see it all put together and painted. I think it will look sick!

Man that's awesome can't wait to see it. I wonder if this upper grill would fit it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-GRILL-GRILLE-BLACK-TOYOTA-YARIS-VITZ-HATCH-TRD-05-2006-2007-2008-06-07-08-/271733417122?hash=item3f4492e4a2&vxp=mtr

Here is one on japanparts.

https://www.japanparts.com/parts/detail/25798

Question. Do you know yet if the factory grills will fit the VIS bumper?

[WeeYari]

brackets :thumbsup:
vis :thumbsup:
kaminari :thumbsup:

I want completed pics no later than 3pm Tuesday. Make it happen. :wink:

[ezhacker1]

Yes!!! Happy to be of help, That's good to know, even the replica ones will work like actual RS. Brackets Only!

I dont think real grilles will work, probably zip tie them.

[djoe25]

I did samething to my car last year. ill post a picture of it
car servicing (http://servicingstop.co.uk/)

[Innovative 1]

Sorry weeyari. Wont be able to get r done by your deadline. Got to take it in for paint and body work hopwfully by the end of this week beginning of next. Emailed rdh japan on the color code for the trd lip spoiler. Thought it would come primed but its fully painted and need the color code so I can do the cowl section of hood same and the grills.

[ilikerice]

What are the VIS bumpers made of? fiberglass or ABS plastic? Curious, fiberglass has been my downfall for a long time. It just chips so easily on the highway.

[WeeYari]

What are the VIS bumpers made of? fiberglass or ABS plastic?

Fiberglass.

[Innovative 1]

I have the same concerns about chipping. Thinking of having the body shop teflon coat the hood and bumper when I get it painted.

[WeeYari]

Just don't kiss any curbs. No forgiveness there.


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[beaker]

I have the same concerns about chipping. Thinking of having the body shop teflon coat the hood and bumper when I get it painted.

Good thing about fiberglass is it is fairly easy to work with and repair. I know factory plastic bumper covers would be ideal, it just so expensive to get them shipped over here.

[ilikerice]

Its not so much that it is easy to repair.. It is having to repair it so often. It's not like you can just use some touch up paint to fill in the nicks in the paint. Rocks also take a chunk of fiberglass with the paint.

I will say, the C-One bumper I got from Micro Image was really thin. It was cracking where the bumper met the fender within a month. Had to reinforce that area and still started doing the same thing a few months later

[KCALB SIRAY]

Real RS grilles worked perfectly fine on my fiberglass bumper (bought from echo_hrs). Granted I had to make tabs and glass them in for them to stay put but they were a perfect fit. Zip ties would work ONLY if there is something to zip tie them to. The fiberglass and ABS replica's I've seen don't really have tabs at all so if he doesn't, he'll have to get creative.

Yes!!! Happy to be of help, That's good to know, even the replica ones will work like actual RS. Brackets Only!

I dont think real grilles will work, probably zip tie them.

[WeeYari]

Real RS grilles worked perfectly fine on my fiberglass bumper (bought from echo_hrs).

Don't know who you bought from but echo_hrs never, ever, ever had fiberglass bumpers. It was always nothing but the real thing for him.

[WeeYari]

*crickets*

[KCALB SIRAY]

I think you are reading my sentence differently than I wrote it; the grilles are real, not my bumpers.

Don't know who you bought from but echo_hrs never, ever, ever had fiberglass bumpers. It was always nothing but the real thing for him.

*crickets*

[beaker]

I am dying to see the VIS bumper installed!

[WeeYari]

Where the hell is this car?!?!

[enviri]

maybe it shattered upon painting? :biggrin::laugh:

[IllusionX]

Don't know who you bought from but echo_hrs never, ever, ever had fiberglass bumpers. It was always nothing but the real thing for him.
I think he did on the orange?

[beaker]

Where the hell is this car?!?!

I know. I want to order one of these, but was waiting to see how it turned out before I did.

[WeeYari]

I think he did on the orange?


Nope.


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[ilikerice]

Maybe he had Astroman's Cousin to paint it.. Prob wont see it for a couple of years if thats the case............

[WeeYari]

:laughabove::bellyroll:

[Astroman]

Geeze I hope my cousin didn't paint it too! I got mine back with the new bumper, getting the custom paint next week.

[nookandcrannycar]

:laughabove::bellyroll:

Exactrly. Hilarious!

(and kudos to Astroman for having a sense of humor about this ^^^^^ :thumbsup:)

[nookandcrannycar]

Geeze I hope my cousin didn't paint it too! I got mine back with the new bumper, getting the custom paint next week.

:thumbsup: Looking good!

(:redface: sorry, thought picture would display here)

[WeeYari]

Where the hell is this car?!?!

^ over a month has passed. One last plea for updates, then I'm done.

[ezhacker1]

Geeze I hope my cousin didn't paint it too! I got mine back with the new bumper, getting the custom paint next week.

maybe it shattered upon painting? :biggrin::laugh:

Lol, never again, fiberglass or abs. But i do wish my DAMD lip was more forgiving to driveways like the RS lip. Actually im not sure what materal the DAMD lip is, it is definitely not poly or abs, maybe it is really thick fiberglass.

I intentionally allow the bumper to pop off so that when i fowl on a driveway the bumper will deflect and just pop off the clip rather than the lip taking the force.

[Innovative 1]

Fresh paint job with new VIS RS fiberglass bumper and Kaminari reverse cowl fiberglass hood finally completed. I noticed the hood gaps were a little off and adjusted it since I took these pics last weekend.

[Innovative 1]

VIS RS fiberglass bumper and Kaminari hood

[Innovative 1]

Front shot of my new VIS RS style fiberglass bumper and Kaminari reverse cowl hood custom painted.

[Innovative 1]

Front shot of my new VIS RS style fiberglass bumper and Kaminari reverse cowl hood custom painted.
I have since fixed the gaps between the hood and the bumper.

[Freestylin]

Nice.. glad to see you managed to work with the VIS kit!

[ezhacker1]

Wow very nice, any issues with fitment that the shop had to work on? Like the straight edge where the bumper meets the fender.

Im glad it all came together. Loving that reverse cowl hood.

[Innovative 1]

I had them only paint it for me. I installed the bumper myself to make sure the grill inserts and garnish was installed properly. The fender and bumper gaps were tight. Had to semi force the fit but got them to go.

[beaker]

Looks AWESOME!

Tells us how the factory grill parts worked with the aftermarket bumper?

Also, is that the TRD garnish between the upper and lower grill or is it just painted black?

[WeeYari]

By the tiny pics on my phone, that looks damn good. You must be thrilled by the transformation.


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[Innovative 1]

Grill pieces are held in place by the existing tabs on new bumper. Guessing that they were part of the mold when bumper was formed by vis. They were not precise. Used some small flat washers in between a few of the tabs as a wedge to secure the grill to them. Trd garnish is authentic and came prepainted from japan gunmetal grey. Had body shop spray it same color as cowl section. Held on with pre placed 3M double sided tape and license plate bracket. First time I went to pick it up from body shop I wasn't pleased with the work they did. Told them I wasn't gonna take the car in its condition at that time. The took it back in shop and ended up cutting paint job two more times and got it right. Really thrilled on the final outcome.
Next on the list is a intercooled power enterprise supercharger and 15x7 Enkei RPF1 (Black) Wheels

[beaker]

Grill pieces are held in place by the existing tabs on new bumper. Guessing that they were part of the mold when bumper was formed by vis. They were not precise. Used some small flat washers in between a few of the tabs as a wedge to secure the grill to them. Trd garnish is authentic and came prepainted from japan gunmetal grey. Had body shop spray it same color as cowl section. Held on with pre placed 3M double sided tape and license plate bracket. First time I went to pick it up from body shop I wasn't pleased with the work they did. Told them I wasn't gonna take the car in its condition at that time. The took it back in shop and ended up cutting paint job two more times and got it right. Really thrilled on the final outcome.
Next on the list is a intercooled power enterprise supercharger and 15x7 Enkei RPF1 (Black) Wheels

It turned out really good. I've been looking at getting a JDM bumper cover shipped from Japan for my car, but the cheapest shipping I can find is over $600.00, plus the cost of the bumper. It's good to see that the VIS turned out this well, as it will be well less than 1/2 the cost of sourcing one from Japan.

What license plate holder did you use?

[Innovative 1]

Went down to car quest and got one of those universal license plate brackets. Turned out good.

[Innovative 1]

Nope. I just had them paint it. I instaled it at home in the garage. Put in the grill inserts, garnish and license plate mount before I mounted it up. Had to order the shorter bumper brackets so the bumper would clear. Its sucked in more than the original bumper. The splash guard end pieces are different for the "rs" style vis bumper. There are gaps at either side. I'll have to try to find the right ones. The center piece of the splash guard bolts in the usual places.

[ezhacker1]

Yup, the splash guard is nasty gap even on the real JDM.

[enviri]

gaps arent bad at all on 09+ jdm...

[Innovative 1]

So if i get the jdm rs side pieces for front bumper there will still be a gap?

[mr_robot]

LH Bracket: 57014-52010
RH Bracket: 57013-52010
Well I ordered the left and right brackets. Are you saying that this wont work Astroman? Read that I need the shorter brackets to move stock crash bar in an and bumper will fit.

Are these the correct part numbers for the shorter brackets?

[ACKING_QC]

can I ask WHERE did you found those bumpers... and those headlights... also ?! shouldn't there be 2 holes and a GAP when debadging our "trunk" please I wanna know what you did to your trunk, I want it smooth as it can be

[mr_robot]

I found mine on yahoo auctions Japan. Still waiting for a shipping quote.