OEM Tires: How Long They Have Lasted Me!

[bronsin]

Car has 40k miles on it now. Tires were rotated ONCE. The original fronts wore out at 35k miles. Car has new tires on the front and the two remaining OEM tires on the rear. These tires have been there for 5k miles and the tread 5k miles ago was just above the wear bars.

Which is where it is now.

I intend to run these tires until there are large bald patches.

I expect they will go maybe 15k more miles!

Opinions?

BTW bald tires on the rear can lead to spinouts on slippery roads on curves even if you are going a prudent speed! I don't drive much anymore and I don't have to drive in bad weather. But you want your best tires on the REAR not the FRONT because of this phenom.

I was always brought up you want the best tires on the front (and maybe you do) but I had a minor accident two winters ago when I spun out at very low speed on a curve.:eek:

Just FYI and Comments!

[WeeYari]

Obviously it's best to try to maintain even wear on all four corners. Hence the rotation regime. I ran a little too bald on the fronts with my last set and lost steering due to hydroplaning.

[nortonfb]

Done a bit of accident investigation. I wouldn't run poor or suspicious condition tires on anything.
I don't care if you kill yourself but I am concerned about the other guy.

[bronsin]

I don't care if you kill yourself

:eek:

Not what I had in mind when I asked for comments but there it is!

[kimona]

Opinions?



Why take a chance, mate? Get new rubber for the rear.

[nortonfb]

Ask and you shall receive.

[IllusionX]

I only ever did 3k miles with my OEM Bridgestone Potenza RE92 before I swapped the wheels and tires. Lol

[bronsin]

Why take a chance, mate? Get new rubber for the rear.

All I use the car for is driving to work in good weather at 35-45 mph.

Also Im saving for retirement! :w00t:

And besides I have a pilots license and ride motorcycles. Which require at LOT more thought to operate safely than a car.

[scod4025]

Ok will try to be nice about this but all I hear from you on this is

"all I use the car for is driving to work"= I only point the gun at my head and pull the trigger when its unloaded

"in good weather"= I let mother nature check the gun she wouldn't do anything crazy

"at 35-45 mph" = and what's the harm its only a .22

I mean why even take the chance

I understand that you are saving but its just one of those Preventative Maintenance things that should be done as a couple Hundred dollars can save thousands in body work if you only get a in a minor wreck

I could throw all kinds of facts at you about why there are tire tread patterns but you are most likely aware of these facts

You may never have an issue and drive the tires till they fall apart ( had many friends that did this when I was a teen) but what if you have that bad day. You are just gambling with many things that sound like you don't want to gamble with as to your retirement. What if you total the car? Will buying a new car help your retirement savings

Well that's my $1.25 hope I didn't offend you or anyone else that practice's this same tire use plan but I'm a blunt person

And best of luck to you

[hachi-roku_fan]

No guys you don't get it, if he kills himself, he no longer needs to worry about saving so much for retirement.

Don't worry bronsin, I get you

[kimona]

Driving on bald tyres is dangerous at any speed, especially on wet roads. The likelihood of a flat, blow-out, or loss of control is high. You could earn a ticket for driving on bald tyres because it is illegal, and you put yourself and others at risk. If you get into an accident, your insurance may deny a claim. And, if someone gets hurt or killed in the accident, you may find yourself involved in some serious litigation because of your negligence.

[bronsin]

You have all, as Winston Churchill said, "Taken council of your fears."

God help you if you cant handle driving on bald tires without killing yourself! What would you do if you had to do something really dangerous? You would melt like marshmallows over a campfire!

On a trip to Alaska I came across a fellow riding a motorcycle who had an accident. Not a bad one he just slid down the road a little ways. He was afraid the frame was bent. He was afraid the forks were bent. (unlikely but so what if they are?) The handlebars were messed up, brake lever broken, a footpeg torn off. He was about to give up and abandon his $10,000 motorcycle because it was impossible to arrange shipping home.

I told him "Get on that bike and RIDE it! Ride it five miles down the road and five miles back to your campsite. Go 20 miles an hour. Keep doing that until you get used to it. Unless the bike says its too f'ed up to ride KEEP GOING! If it'll do 20 try 30. Then try 40. But if I were you Id stick at 50!"

I gave him a pair of vicegrips to use as a footpeg and we cobbed up the handlebars and brake lever. I explained when he got to someplace he could arrange shipping to send the bike home.

He made it all the way to his home in Michigan and after a couple of days he was going 75! He said it was the greatest thing he ever did in his life!

Cant imagine any of you doing THAT! :biggrin:

[hachi-roku_fan]

There's a difference between doing stupid shit out of necessity and being in a bad situation, and doing it just because.

[scod4025]

Ok so will use your example to push the point as what he did was a necessity that needed to be done but to bring it to what you plan on doing is to getting home on the bike and deciding that well it has gotten me this far why fix it so I can save some mony

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[Gogogordy]

Its not just YOUR need to squeeze every penny out of a set of original OEM tires in play here, its the safety of others.

Seriously....don't be "that driver".

I just replaced my (still serviceable) OEM tires at 43k and replaced them with Michelin Defenders. Better ride, much quieter, and.....safer.

[bronsin]

The State of NJ has not required cars to be inspected for the last ten years. :confused:

Just emissions that's all.

Its the whole State that officially out of compliance. :eek:

[hachi-roku_fan]

CA has smog only too, doesn't mean we all ride on slicks

[IllusionX]

The State of NJ has not required cars to be inspected for the last ten years. :confused:

Just emissions that's all.

Its the whole State that officially out of compliance. :eek:

No smog, no safety required in QC, unless it's an import or has not been plated for over a year, then safety is required.

Gov have been giving incentive for people to replace their old cars, so we now see less smoke machines on the road.

[ilikerice]

Another issue that needs to be addressed is dry rot. Like all rubber, it gets brittle over long periods of time. Being that your car is an 09 and you joined the website in 08, I can only assume that you purchased the car brand new in late 08. So your tires are at least 7 years old probably.

To run your tires bald that are that old is an accident waiting to happen. First person that pops in my mind is Astroman. Remember he bought some really old throw on tires that he used for traveling. He was trying to be cheap and he got a blowout on the highway.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54076

STORY TIME!
Just image one of your rear tires blows out during a 40 mph turn on a 2 lane road with oncomnig traffic. You take this road every day for the past 8 years and you know exactly what speed and angle you need to turn the wheel to make this turn and can do it without even looking. During this turn, your phone rings. You don't answer it because it's not safe to talk on the phone while driving. But is sitting right there on the center console. You just go to reach for it to check to see who it is and nothing more. Maybe your wife or kid calling, whatever. That split second you reach for that phone and looking down, that outside rear tire blows out. Now your rear end is drifting into the other lane, but you got this. The other car in the other lane coming up doesn't see any of this happening because she too has driven this road 1,000 times and is currently looking over her shoulder to give her baby a toy he dropped. She is in her lane no worries but your rear end is not. She never had a chance to make any evasive actions that she could have if she was looking straight.

No one probably died, and probably not even a scratch, but now you have 2 wrecked vehicles on the side of the road. Probably not totalled but some damage. Deductable is probably $500, but since you are in the money saving buisiness, I would assumed you opted for the $1,000 deductable for a better 6mo rate.

So instead of paying $150 now, you could be paying 5 times that amount later. Who knows, nothing may never happen. You saved $150 now for another 2 years. You can not predict these things, but you can help make them preventable.

[justjesus]

I work in the claims department of an insurance company. Been seeing auto claims for about 15 years.

One thing I see over and over, "I drive safe, I don't really need insurance." Until the day comes and they need it. I've seen some very terrible things. The latest involved a woman being scalped. No kidding. Top layer of head was scalped. Nasty stuff.

People not wearing seatbelts? Yeah, I've seen some crazy stuff from that. Worst was a mother/grandmother that was thrown out of a minivan in the freeway, while her family watched, and she was run over by 2 or 3 different cars.

Driving on bald tires? Yup, seen some stuff there too.

[bronsin]

Another issue that needs to be addressed is dry rot. Like all rubber, it gets brittle over long periods of time. Being that your car is an 09 and you joined the website in 08, I can only assume that you purchased the car brand new in late 08. So your tires are at least 7 years old probably.

To run your tires bald that are that old is an accident waiting to happen. First person that pops in my mind is Astroman. Remember he bought some really old throw on tires that he used for traveling. He was trying to be cheap and he got a blowout on the highway.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54076

STORY TIME!
Just image one of your rear tires blows out during a 40 mph turn on a 2 lane road with oncomnig traffic. You take this road every day for the past 8 years and you know exactly what speed and angle you need to turn the wheel to make this turn and can do it without even looking. During this turn, your phone rings. You don't answer it because it's not safe to talk on the phone while driving. But is sitting right there on the center console. You just go to reach for it to check to see who it is and nothing more. Maybe your wife or kid calling, whatever. That split second you reach for that phone and looking down, that outside rear tire blows out. Now your rear end is drifting into the other lane, but you got this. The other car in the other lane coming up doesn't see any of this happening because she too has driven this road 1,000 times and is currently looking over her shoulder to give her baby a toy he dropped. She is in her lane no worries but your rear end is not. She never had a chance to make any evasive actions that she could have if she was looking straight.

No one probably died, and probably not even a scratch, but now you have 2 wrecked vehicles on the side of the road. Probably not totalled but some damage. Deductable is probably $500, but since you are in the money saving buisiness, I would assumed you opted for the $1,000 deductable for a better 6mo rate.

So instead of paying $150 now, you could be paying 5 times that amount later. Who knows, nothing may never happen. You saved $150 now for another 2 years. You can not predict these things, but you can help make them preventable.

I really want to say thanks for having my safety and welfare in mind! :clap:

But Im not interested in worrying about something (tire blowing up) that has about a 1 in 250,000 chance in happening. (chance of getting hit by lightening: 1 in 10,000) My tires are always 35 psi and I never exceed 45 mph.

Maybe you could try and talk my wife out of playing the lottery! (one in 80 million) I figure shes spent over $1000 over the years doing that. And she says "But its just $1 a ticket!" No now its $2 a ticket and she buys ~10 tickets a month!

Totally crazy! Just think what you could spend $1000 on.

As long as Im DESTROYING you with playing the odds lets talk about recalls! Heres how 90% of all recalls work. One person in 50,000 has a problem that's scary so about half the time they issue a recall. What does that involve...100 cars out of a million? ! car out of 10,000? So most of the time Im not really interested in the hassle of taking my car in to the dealer. And 75% of recalls are NOT what I would call safety issues.

Car insurance? Got that! Ive saved about $10,000 over the years not getting collision. When I bought the Yaris 0% interest over 5 years I had to get collision and now that its paid off I still have it. :bow:

So play the odds and don't let your fears rule your life is my advice.

[Gogogordy]

I really want to say thanks for having my safety and welfare in mind! :clap:

But Im not interested in worrying about something (tire blowing up) that has about a 1 in 250,000 chance in happening. (chance of getting hit by lightening: 1 in 10,000) My tires are always 35 psi and I never exceed 45 mph.

Maybe you could try and talk my wife out of playing the lottery! (one in 80 million) I figure shes spent over $1000 over the years doing that. And she says "But its just $1 a ticket!" No now its $2 a ticket and she buys ~10 tickets a month!

Totally crazy! Just think what you could spend $1000 on.

As long as Im DESTROYING you with playing the odds lets talk about recalls! Heres how 90% of all recalls work. One person in 50,000 has a problem that's scary so about half the time they issue a recall. What does that involve...100 cars out of a million? ! car out of 10,000? So most of the time Im not really interested in the hassle of taking my car in to the dealer. And 75% of recalls are NOT what I would call safety issues.

Car insurance? Got that! Ive saved about $10,000 over the years not getting collision. When I bought the Yaris 0% interest over 5 years I had to get collision and now that its paid off I still have it. :bow:

So play the odds and don't let your fears rule your life is my advice.

^^^"that guy"^^^

Again, its not just your life when you share the road with others.

[ilikerice]

I am not a statistics person, but that 1 in 250,000 chance you speak of is probably with all tires... I would think you are increasing your chances dramatically if you only used bald, 7 year old tires. I am sure you will have a better chance of getting a blow out than getting hit by lighting in your case.

I really think you missed the entire Insurance point I was trying to make, but whatever. Don't care. Not worth trying to explain it again.

I was having a bit of fun writing my little short story on my lunch break yesterday. I got carried away. You asked for our opinions and haven't read a single reply thinking this was a good idea, but in the end, you will still do what you want. Good luck with your adventures. I am glad I don't live anywhere near you, but not to say there isn't at least one of your types living in my city also.

[bronsin]

. You asked for our opinions and haven't read a single reply thinking this was a good idea, but in the end, you will still do what you want. .

Youre right on both counts.

I was hoping to get info on how long tires last on the rear of the car. On my 74 VW Beetle for instance, when the rear tires got down to no tread the tires would go another ~3000 miles before wearing through.

As a motorcyclist you have a lot more worries about "the other guy" than the person driving a car has. Its a lot healthier to assume they are going to kill you and adjust your driving accordingly, than to just drive blithely down the road assuming all will be well...

[nortonfb]

You have mentioned at that you are a motorcyclist and a pilot.
How is this relevant?
I have been riding more than 5 decades (Nortons/ducs). No class has ever issued anything positive about driving in/0n a poorly maintained vehicle.
Knowing this I would certainly not got near a airplane with you.
Do to my advanced years I will leave with this:
SPEED WAS HIGH
WEATHER WAS HOT
TIRES WERE THIN
X MARKS THE SPOT
BurmaShave

[bronsin]

Both are far more dangerous and require a lot more thinking ahead. So does driving on less than perfect tires.

Im thinking theres no X's in my future! :headbang: