Skeleton of Front Dash Pictures ?

[YodaBird]

Anyone have pictures of behind the front dash stretching from the drivers side to the passenger ?

[CTScott]

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo163/ctscott329/Crashy%202/Dash1_zpsaguie5di.jpg (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/ctscott329/media/Crashy%202/Dash1_zpsaguie5di.jpg.html)

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo163/ctscott329/Crashy%202/Dash%20left_zpszkeo7plw.jpg (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/ctscott329/media/Crashy%202/Dash%20left_zpszkeo7plw.jpg.html)

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo163/ctscott329/Crashy%202/Dash%20center_zpsplo5xflg.jpg (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/ctscott329/media/Crashy%202/Dash%20center_zpsplo5xflg.jpg.html)

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo163/ctscott329/Crashy%202/Dash%20Right_zpszbi8dead.jpg (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/ctscott329/media/Crashy%202/Dash%20Right_zpszbi8dead.jpg.html)

[YodaBird]

3rd generation :) ?

[YodaBird]

The heater / cooling part (last image down) where is that at the front of the car ? The two black square hoses in between in the middle image, where is that outside of the car ?

[Gogogordy]

Looks like something from Mattel....

Whats the large silver box just forward of the steering wheel?

[CTScott]

That is a second gen. The intake for the heater comes out within the wiper cowl, just above where the ECM sits on the firewall.

The black square tubes in the center of the dash connect to the air vents on the dash, they don't exit to outside.

The silver box in front of the steering wheel is the power steering ECU.

[YodaBird]

Is there pictures of the 3rd generation behind the front desk skeleton ?

[WeeYari]

Is there pictures of the 3rd generation behind the front desk skeleton ?

Probably not. Had it not been for a man like CTScott, such pictures of the Gen2 would not have existed.

[YodaBird]

Probably not. Had it not been for a man like CTScott, such pictures of the Gen2 would not have existed.

I know, maybe, hopefully someone will post ! :)

[WeeYari]

Your best bet might be with Jason@SportsCar as he tears down his 2015 for race prep. Maybe PM him to see if any pics like this could be obtained.

[WeeYari]

Actually, here is one from his tear down/build

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-DUP2jVwYK7o/VM6hAjLXZkI/AAAAAAAADOg/_a1ZLlHfNic/s1152/IMG_20150201_130547500.jpg

[Jason@SportsCar]

Is there pictures of the 3rd generation behind the front desk skeleton ?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n59bjEbp5d4/VTsD22vAFmI/AAAAAAAAEK0/6Ff9mArl2QA/w1274-h717-no/IMG_20150424_134053606.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9RePnyLNbq0/VTsD9Gs1d_I/AAAAAAAAEL0/2X8Bx4c_5w8/w1274-h717-no/IMG_20150424_134121268.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PUChMgbBsXU/VWvStpq6BUI/AAAAAAAAE9Q/klwQRLq0f78/w1274-h717-no/IMG_20150531_203352376.jpg

[hondajt]

thanks for pics!

[YodaBird]

These pictures are perfect, except I wish there was a clearer picture of the left hand side of the drivers side ? As well is there a picture including the isolation ?

[Jason@SportsCar]

These pictures are perfect, except I wish there was a clearer picture of the left hand side of the drivers side ? As well is there a picture including the isolation ?

Might be useful to know what in particular you are looking for? For the most part the 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012 and 2015 Yaris we have turned in to racecars were 99% identical inside. All of the metal stampings are the same. I have yet to see a significant change outside of the exterior sheet metal, and almost everything has been interchangeable from one gen to the next.

[WeeYari]

Might be useful to know what in particular you are looking for?

Based on his other threads, I believe he is looking for;

- possible access points a squirrel is using to get into vehicle
- what under the dash said squirrel has possibly damaged (ie, insulation)

[YodaBird]

Yes, the carpet installation that is behind the cars front dashboard, that I physically can't see, it would be of great help, your other pictures help me identify a problem area.

Except the cabin filter area is it possible to see pictures of the where the heat and a/c enters though the car ? :)

Thank You.
Based on his other threads, I believe he is looking for;

- possible access points a squirrel is using to get into vehicle
- what under the dash said squirrel has possibly damaged (ie, insulation)

[xnamerxx]

The AC enters the car directly in the center of the firewall. You can see it from the engine bay there are two metal lines that come out of a large rectangular grommet. The heater core is directly to the right of that in a smaller hole with two black hoses coming out of it. It would be really obvious if there was damage in either of those from the firewall. You can see both of those holes from the picture Jason has posted neither one should allow enough of an opening for a squirrel or rat to get in. In order for there to be a breach in the cabin air filter it would need to get past the blower, which is a pretty tight space. There is a small hole where the water drain is located, in the passenger side footwell, you can also see the hole in Jason's picture.

I would be more willing to bet that the holes that are plugged with the large rubber grommets on the underside of the car, is where its getting in rather than from the firewall area. There are 4 in the cabin area and one large one in the trunk. I would be looking there.

[CTScott]

The AC enters the car directly in the center of the firewall. You can see it from the engine bay there are two metal lines that come out of a large rectangular grommet. The heater core is directly to the right of that in a smaller hole with two black hoses coming out of it. It would be really obvious if there was damage in either of those from the firewall. You can see both of those holes from the picture Jason has posted neither one should allow enough of an opening for a squirrel or rat to get in. In order for there to be a breach in the cabin air filter it would need to get past the blower, which is a pretty tight space. There is a small hole where the water drain is located, in the passenger side footwell, you can also see the hole in Jason's picture.

I would be more willing to bet that the holes that are plugged with the large rubber grommets on the underside of the car, is where its getting in rather than from the firewall area. There are 4 in the cabin area and one large one in the trunk. I would be looking there.


The AC actually enters on the passenger side of the firewall and it it has a plastic duct that brings the air in, which unfortunately has holes large enough for a mouse or chipmunk to easily go through. Once they do, if the intake air knob is set to outside, they can easily get to the top of the cabin air filter (if you have one). Once there, if you flip the knob to recirculate, the critters can then step off the top of the filter right into the inside of the dash.

I was parking one of mine outside for a while, so I removed the wiper cowl and added aluminum screen mesh to the holes in the plastic duct, as I had a huge problem with my Tacoma with mice getting into the dash.

[YodaBird]

The AC enters the car directly in the center of the firewall. You can see it from the engine bay there are two metal lines that come out of a large rectangular grommet. The heater core is directly to the right of that in a smaller hole with two black hoses coming out of it. It would be really obvious if there was damage in either of those from the firewall. You can see both of those holes from the picture Jason has posted neither one should allow enough of an opening for a squirrel or rat to get in. In order for there to be a breach in the cabin air filter it would need to get past the blower, which is a pretty tight space. There is a small hole where the water drain is located, in the passenger side footwell, you can also see the hole in Jason's picture.

I would be more willing to bet that the holes that are plugged with the large rubber grommets on the underside of the car, is where its getting in rather than from the firewall area. There are 4 in the cabin area and one large one in the trunk. I would be looking there.

The red squirrel is smaller, and has breached the cabin air filter, the cabin filter was torn to shreds, not once, not twice, not three times, four times; until I decided to replace the air filter with a foam material and place it inside, well, after a few days, the squirrel did not shred the foam apart, that I don't understand, but it did urinate on the foam, I'm guessing it doesn't like foam but love the materials cabin filters are made of.

I have found large pieces of carpet type material roughly two months ago on the passengers seat of the car, I will post those pictures. After a deep inspection, not once, but twice of everything it has come to the conclusion that the pieces came from way up where you can't see where you feet rest when sitting, I can verify this with the fact that, tuffs of the insulation carpeting as it appears were found where you put your feet on the drivers side, as though it rolled down.

I've been wanting to know where he is entering and where he has ripped apart in the car.

[nookandcrannycar]

The red squirrel is smaller, and has breached the cabin air filter, the cabin filter was torn to shreds, not once, not twice, not three times, four times; until I decided to replace the air filter with a foam material and place it inside, well, after a few days, the squirrel did not shred the foam apart, that I don't understand, but it did urinate on the foam, I'm guessing it doesn't like foam but love the materials cabin filters are made of.

I have found large pieces of carpet type material roughly two months ago on the passengers seat of the car, I will post those pictures. After a deep inspection, not once, but twice of everything it has come to the conclusion that the pieces came from way up where you can't see where you feet rest when sitting, I can verify this with the fact that, tuffs of the insulation carpeting as it appears were found where you put your feet on the drivers side, as though it rolled down.

I've been wanting to know where he is entering and where he has ripped apart in the car.

:eek: I hope the smell of squirrel urine (?) isn't permeating the inside of your Yaris.

[CTScott]

The red squirrel is smaller, and has breached the cabin air filter, the cabin filter was torn to shreds, not once, not twice, not three times, four times; until I decided to replace the air filter with a foam material and place it inside, well, after a few days, the squirrel did not shred the foam apart, that I don't understand, but it did urinate on the foam, I'm guessing it doesn't like foam but love the materials cabin filters are made of.

I have found large pieces of carpet type material roughly two months ago on the passengers seat of the car, I will post those pictures. After a deep inspection, not once, but twice of everything it has come to the conclusion that the pieces came from way up where you can't see where you feet rest when sitting, I can verify this with the fact that, tuffs of the insulation carpeting as it appears were found where you put your feet on the drivers side, as though it rolled down.

I've been wanting to know where he is entering and where he has ripped apart in the car.


Here's a link to your other thread where I show The intake air duct and how I added the screen. That is the only place it could be entering the car from:


http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showpost.php?p=759306&postcount=20

[YodaBird]

CTScott - This area is not visible when opening the hood ? That is only one area.

[CTScott]

CTScott - This area is not visible when opening the hood ? That is only one area.

I have completely stripped the chassis of multiple Yaris. That is the only area where critters can enter.

It is not visible unless you remove the plastic wiper cowl. Once you do you can see that they can easily get from under the hood to the wiper tray where they can easily enter the holes in that plastic duct and make their way into the AC system.

[YodaBird]

That makes sense considering, they would walk along that exact part of the hood.

What about literally getting in the car from under the car ?

I have completely stripped the chassis of multiple Yaris. That is the only area where critters can enter.

It is not visible unless you remove the plastic wiper cowl. Once you do you can see that they can easily get from under the hood to the wiper tray where they can easily enter the holes in that plastic duct and make their way into the AC system.

[YodaBird]

This is the largest piece that was torn out; two more to follow.
http://s5.postimg.org/hljrvjw39/ripped_insulation.jpg

[YodaBird]

http://s5.postimg.org/3t5czx5bp/Second_Parts.jpg

[CTScott]

That makes sense considering, they would walk along that exact part of the hood.

What about literally getting in the car from under the car ?

They could only get in from under if one of the rubber plugs was missing, but then they would have to be able to climb upside down on the bottom of the car to get to the hole and then chew through both the carpet padding and the carpet itself to get inside.

[YodaBird]

What do you call the carpet padding as seen in the images ? One of those pieces was literally on the passenger seat of the car, and it's not from any area that I can see in plain slight so it must have come from behind the front dash.

[CTScott]

What do you call the carpet padding as seen in the images ? One of those pieces was literally on the passenger seat of the car, and it's not from any area that I can see in plain slight so it must have come from behind the front dash.

Your images did not come through in your posts.

I just manually copied the dead links out of your posts and could see the images from that. That is indeed the carpet underlayment, but the easiest place for them to get at chunks like that is from the edges under the dash or under the rear side panels. Once a critter gets in they can find some great nesting places above the headliner (accessible via the pillars) or behind the side panels (also accessible by the base of the pillars).

[YodaBird]

The images load for me, anyhow; where on the car is the edges under the dash or the rear side panels ?
Can this be replaced or is it pointless or too costly ?
Can I prevent him from entering though these areas ?

[CTScott]

The images load for me, anyhow; where on the car is the edges under the dash or the rear side panels ?
Can this be replaced or is it pointless or too costly ?
Can I prevent him from entering though these areas ?

Once you catch the critter nesting in the car and prevent him from reentering you will be fine. To get to the under dash edges you would need to pull the dash top and to get to the are behind the side panels you would need to pull them.

[YodaBird]

Where is under the dash edges ? Do you have a diagram or picture ? What do you mean by pull them ? They can be replaced ?

[CTScott]

Where is under the dash edges ? Do you have a diagram or picture ? What do you mean by pull them ? They can be replaced ?

By pull, I mean remove for access (and then reinstall when done).

I don't seen to have pictures of where the carpet ends. Here though is a picture of some of the places where the carpet padding is, below the front and rear seats:

55518

[YodaBird]

The squirrel is entering underneath the car ? I thought it was up near the petals ?

Since there is some padding removed can that not cause rust or water to enter ?

There is another area where I found the carpet padding, too hard to explain the location, I'll post a picture in a day or two

[CTScott]

The squirrel is entering underneath the car ? I thought it was up near the petals ?

Since there is some padding removed can that not cause rust or water to enter ?

There is another area where I found the carpet padding, too hard to explain the location, I'll post a picture in a day or two

I think it is time for me to give up on this one...

The squirrel can only be entering where I mentioned above. Once it gets into the car there are various places that it can travel through from under the dash to gain access to nesting materials.

[YodaBird]

Do you have a diagram of this location where it is entering on the car ? I can't physically see underneath the car, unless when the car is hosted up.

If I understand what you're saying, the squirrel is entering under the car, traveling though to the dashboard to nesting materials ?

A diagram or image would help alot, I won't be having the car hosted up anytime soon. If it's only one location as you say; and it can be blocked, where is this location, and you're sure there is no more locations, when a critter wants to keep warm or just be a bugger, they can be desperate and they will try, what they can to get in.

[CTScott]

Do you have a diagram of this location where it is entering on the car ? I can't physically see underneath the car, unless when the car is hosted up.

If I understand what you're saying, the squirrel is entering under the car, traveling though to the dashboard to nesting materials ?

A diagram or image would help alot, I won't be having the car hosted up anytime soon. If it's only one location as you say; and it can be blocked, where is this location, and you're sure there is no more locations, when a critter wants to keep warm or just be a bugger, they can be desperate and they will try, what they can to get in.

Look at my link in post #22 above.

[YodaBird]

That diagram is only for the air duct / cabin filter, not under the dash as you mentioned ? The squirrel can't be entering the dash via the air duct, look at the first page of this thread diagram, that is all closed off.

[CTScott]

That diagram is only for the air duct / cabin filter, not under the dash as you mentioned ? The squirrel can't be entering the dash via the air duct, look at the first page of this thread diagram, that is all closed off.

Wrong - That duct goes to the white piece that you see in my first picture on the first page, which allows direct entry into the cabin above the cabin air filter.

Again, I have stated all of this multiple times and am getting tired of repeating myself, so I am going silent on this thread...

[YodaBird]

The two spouts, one on the left & right, or what look like spouts, you mean those, correct ?

[YodaBird]

It seems to me you're saying, as it appears a little cryptic.

The critter enters underneath the car, tunnels though to those two spouts as shown on the first page of this thread as it's the only way he can go, then he's in the front dash of the car and there he rips the carpet installation ?

Is that what you're saying, or something else ?

[YodaBird]

Does anyone have any pictures of below so I can get a understanding of what is described ?

[WeeYari]

Get on your back and stick your head under the car. If you spot any holes in the floor pan that you can stick your finger in then you are missing plugs. They are easy to spot.



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[YodaBird]

Yaris is low, I can't see that far underneath. What missing plugs are you referring too ?

[WeeYari]

I know how low the Yaris is. I took this photo with the car on the ground so it is possible for you to see what I am talking about.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52903

These are about 6" in from the rocker panels, both on driver and passenger sides. You can see a small hole where there should have been a plug. To the right of it you will see a larger plug in place. There are also two large rubber plugs in the bottom of the spare tire well that you may want to check on. I think there are also some plugs under the rear passenger seats as well.

[YodaBird]

You mean to right of the small hole in the image ?

[ern-diz]

:bonk:

[WeeYari]

You mean to right of the small hole in the image ?


Sorry, yes to the right.


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[YodaBird]

There are no caps missing, there is a path to which he is getting in the car. In-fact is is urinating within the dashboard.

Does anyone have any pictures of strictly the front dash removed ?

[YodaBird]

There are members on this forum that can tear apart a Yaris, but can't show a skeleton or a semi-skeleton of the dashboard any areas that lead to the under carriage of the car, in which a critter, rodent, or in this case a squirrel can enter ?

That is what is happening, and I can't proceed with the methods I've been doing when winter arrives, if I can find the entry point, I can, hopefully close it up, until I get more info and where,how the heck am I suppose to know, I'm shooting blanks ?

[Jason@SportsCar]

There are members on this forum that can tear apart a Yaris, but can't show a skeleton or a semi-skeleton of the dashboard any areas that lead to the under carriage of the car, in which a critter, rodent, or in this case a squirrel can enter ?

That is what is happening, and I can't proceed with the methods I've been doing when winter arrives, if I can find the entry point, I can, hopefully close it up, until I get more info and where,how the heck am I suppose to know, I'm shooting blanks ?

Are you 100% the point of entry is in the firewall? There are large vents in the rear corner of body, and a number of rubber plugs in the floor.

[YodaBird]

Firewall ?
If the squirrel is not entering from below the car, then there is only one other area, around the wipers which enters into the dashboard. The smell of urine is always in the dashboard, that, I'm almost certain.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Firewall ?
If the squirrel is not entering from below the car, then there is only one other area, around the wipers which enters into the dashboard. The smell of urine is always in the dashboard, that, I'm almost certain.

Firewall is the metal panel that separates you from the engine compartment.

The mouse may live in the dash, but it could enter anywhere. The wipers do not enter the dashboard. They are in a tray at the base of the windshield, and do not penetrate the firewall. There is an air vent in that tray that feeds the HVAC system.

There are two very large vents behind the rear bumper. There are four large plastic plugs (two per side) in the floor in the area of your feet on the drivers and passengers side. There is a massive wire harness that passes into the cabin by the brake booster. There are dozens of rubber plugs in the floor large enough for a mouse.

No one is going to be able to show you a pic of where your mouse is coming in, because it could be a lot of places, sounds like its time for you to get your hands dirty.

[YodaBird]

I've seen the carpet lining, which I posted a picture in a earlier post, literally on the passenger car seat.

The best method is to hoist the car up and look, where anything 2.5" could enter, hrm.

[Jason@SportsCar]

I've seen the carpet lining, which I posted a picture in a earlier post, literally on the passenger car seat.

The best method is to hoist the car up and look, where anything 2.5" could enter, hrm.

Pretty sure they say a rat can fit any place it can get its head in, I bet a mouse needs no more than 1" to get in.

[YodaBird]

Mouse/Squirrel, probably right 1", jeez, how many 1" holes can there be a car, besides areas that are a threat or not comfortable especially for a squirrel, that wants comfortability.