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kaboom
05-04-2007, 02:38 PM
I removed the glove compartment on my Yaris and noticed there was a filter housing. Book says nothing about it. I went to local Advance Auto Parts store. Obviously, there was no listing for Yaris in their book but I took measurements and picked the one for ca. 12 bucks. Popped right in. Eeehaaa!
kd

jamal1984
05-04-2007, 02:46 PM
is there already a filter in there yet before you got a new one?

nick1983
05-04-2007, 02:59 PM
I removed the glove compartment on my Yaris and noticed there was a filter housing. Book says nothing about it. I went to local Advance Auto Parts store. Obviously, there was no listing for Yaris in their book but I took measurements and picked the one for ca. 12 bucks. Popped right in. Eeehaaa!
kd

What filter did you replace it with. Do you have a stock number for it?

kaboom
05-04-2007, 03:56 PM
as i said there was no filter in the housing - stock # = 12208 by Purolator and it costs $ 12.28 plus tax in my Adv. Auto Parts. Also - on the other note - did anyone think about mounting an aftermarket tacho inside that swinging storage compartment next to driver's left knee ? ( the one you need to pull in order to get to under- the -dash fuse/relay box ? I thought, if i mount it over there, i will simply open that little storage bin while driving, so nobody would break into my yaris and steal it while the car is parked

Kaotic Lazagna
05-04-2007, 04:01 PM
it mentions a cabin filter in my manual.

kaboom
05-04-2007, 04:20 PM
so i'm taking my salesguy to small claim court for stealing my filter.... was there a filter in your car's housing when you got it ? if not - we may consider a "group lawsuit"? lol
kd

sf180th
05-04-2007, 04:24 PM
No filter comes in it when you buy it, I dont know why but it dosent, I went to the Dealership and thay had no idea what filter I was talking about. I told him that I had seen the Part number on a forum and I looked it up and gave it to him. THey had them in stock, the bad thing is they cost about $20 bucks.

blacksan
05-04-2007, 04:52 PM
#87139-52020 Is possibly the US part number. If I can find data base I will affirm.

blacksan
05-04-2007, 04:57 PM
Roll your own!
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20753

ROCKLAND TOYOTA
05-04-2007, 05:37 PM
87139-52020 is the correct part number. i have it in mine now.....

sf180th
05-04-2007, 05:39 PM
Yea thats the part number I have as well.

marcus
05-04-2007, 05:41 PM
thats one of the first thing ive check on my 2007 yaris rs it does have acabin filter...just took off the glove compartment and there it was with a filter... easy access..you guys should have on e too..

Newyaris
05-04-2007, 06:38 PM
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3073&page=2

No filter also here in Greece! I have exchanged many e-mails with Toyota Greece, Toyota Japan and Toyota Europe!

The car comes without filter!

When I asked Τoyota Hellas if the passengers' health is affected by the lack of the filter, they officialy replied that they don't have any evidence about that...

They sell a product which is potencialy dangerous...

I was very disapointed...

sboy
05-04-2007, 07:42 PM
guys, could you tell how to remove the glove box? i want to check if my sedan doesn't have that a/c filter too?

marcus
05-04-2007, 07:45 PM
if its the same as the hatch then open then push it on both side from the outside. hold it at the same time push till it comes off the plastic pin... be carefull you might break the pin..you can do it one at a time as well if you want.. takes 15 seconds to take that off..no sweat!

guys, could you tell how to remove the glove box? i want to check if my sedan doesn't have that a/c filter too?

sboy
05-04-2007, 08:29 PM
if its the same as the hatch then open then push it on both side from the outside. hold it at the same time push till it comes off the plastic pin... be carefull you might break the pin..you can do it one at a time as well if you want.. takes 15 seconds to take that off..no sweat!

thanks marcus. i'll try it now.

kaboom
05-04-2007, 09:11 PM
i opened my a/c filter compartment to copy the exact MODEL # from the Purolator filter i use : it is C38188------------as i wrote it is basically "oem fit" but i trimmed ca. 1/16 of an inch of the plastic lip ( front and back, i.e. along the "short side") to prevent buckling when the door with two pins is closed. then i applied black electric tape to the front mounting to enhance air tightness and to limit the filter's movement. i do not recommend " the poor man diy replacements" as those filtering elements have much bigger pores - the one i installed is one-directional , one micron element and it was chemically treated with antibacterial/antifungal agent.....
even if it costs $ 12 and i change it monthly, the expense will be negligible in comparison with current ( let alone future) gas prices, and the health benefit is substantial.
kd

ToyotaTEch21
05-04-2007, 09:37 PM
I cant say for sure why the yaris doesn't have one but I can tell you that on the Tc they had them but they actually had a cooling problem with them in there, so Toyota opted to just take them out. No official word from Toyota that I've heard but this could be the same with our Yarii

blacksan
05-04-2007, 10:02 PM
I cant say for sure why the yaris doesn't have one but I can tell you that on the Tc they had them but they actually had a cooling problem with them in there, so Toyota opted to just take them out. No official word from Toyota that I've heard but this could be the same with our Yarii


That makes sense.

Shroomster
05-04-2007, 11:32 PM
so there is no use in going to the dealership to complain about the lack of the filter and trying to get one for free?

jmjonesey
05-05-2007, 12:29 AM
so there is no use in going to the dealership to complain about the lack of the filter and trying to get one for free?

Im going to check tomorrow and if the car is sans filter, you bet your anus im gonna go down there and get a free one

hystria
05-05-2007, 10:32 AM
Base hatchback model without A/C has the filter from factory here in Canada. But the filter is so thin, I decided to add a towel on cabin the air intake (under the hood)

blacksan
05-05-2007, 10:39 AM
I wonder what kind of response we would get if we e-mailed Toyota?

Can one of the resident computer wizards throw together a form letter that would could add our perspective names too?

ROCKLAND TOYOTA
05-05-2007, 12:26 PM
I cant say for sure why the yaris doesn't have one but I can tell you that on the Tc they had them but they actually had a cooling problem with them in there, so Toyota opted to just take them out. No official word from Toyota that I've heard but this could be the same with our Yarii WRONG, the tc NEVER HAD them at all!!!! it specifically says they do not use one due to cooling issues. but we have installed then at customer's request.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA
05-05-2007, 12:27 PM
Im going to check tomorrow and if the car is sans filter, you bet your anus im gonna go down there and get a free one

GOOD LUCK getting something your car never came with in the first place.......

blacksan
05-05-2007, 01:43 PM
GOOD LUCK getting something your car never came with in the first place.......

My 07 LB is sans filter.

I bet this same system is retrofit to several different models and depending on options/price point you receive the filter.

blacksan
05-05-2007, 02:22 PM
The best piece I have found so far is $25.00.

http://www.metrotpn.com/ProductDetails.aspx?CollectionID=16&ProductID=133&SortIndex=6

It looks like Bosch actually makes some nice cabin air filters (charcoal & particulate), but no listing yet

Shroomster
05-05-2007, 02:42 PM
thats one of the first thing ive check on my 2007 yaris rs it does have acabin filter...just took off the glove compartment and there it was with a filter... easy access..you guys should have on e too..

hey marcus, any chance you could shoot me the dimensions of the filter? that way I can make one and not have to worry about it bunching up or not fitting?

ROCKLAND TOYOTA
05-05-2007, 02:53 PM
8 1/2 inches long and 8 inches wide....

blacksan
05-05-2007, 03:15 PM
8 1/2 inches long and 8 inches wide....

Who makes it for Toyota?

ROCKLAND TOYOTA
05-05-2007, 03:48 PM
Who makes it for Toyota? to be honest i have no idea... its got toyota logos on box and filter doesn't have any stamps on it.

blacksan
05-05-2007, 04:08 PM
I just read a note concerning the filter causing possible cooling problema in certain vehicles as ToyotaTEch21 mentioned. It looks like they where designed for it in the begining, but issues resulted in them not being used. I can understand them not changing the component design just to reflect lack of filter. If they had done so then the cost would simply have been passed on to us in the end.

ToyotaTEch21
05-05-2007, 04:26 PM
WRONG, the tc NEVER HAD them at all!!!! it specifically says they do not use one due to cooling issues. but we have installed then at customer's request.

Never? Then why does it have the spot for it? It was designed to have it originally but they had issues. You dont think they could have come to this conclusion before the car hit the market. Dont act like I dont know what I'm talking about with your WRONG and NEVER HAD. Fact of the matter is if the car NEVER had one they wouldn't know there were cooling issues. So how am I wrong? please explain.

+1 on above post, he gets it.

kaboom
05-05-2007, 04:28 PM
Plus we can greatly benefit putting in our own filter.... I use Purolator C38188 cabin filter and it works great. Ran A/C today with no problems ( even on "low" fan setting). I checked with local Toyota dealer's parts dept ( Don Joseph in Kent, OH) and the counter dude was suprised that there IS a part listed in the book. He quoted me @ $ 32.40 plus tx on OEM Toyota cabin filter for my Yaris............duh
kd

Shroomster
05-05-2007, 08:18 PM
Never? Then why does it have the spot for it? It was designed to have it originally but they had issues. You dont think they could have come to this conclusion before the car hit the market. Dont act like I dont know what I'm talking about with your WRONG and NEVER HAD. Fact of the matter is if the car NEVER had one they wouldn't know there were cooling issues. So how am I wrong? please explain.

+1 on above post, he gets it.

so was it a problem that they tested with one type of filter? was any info released or something substantial to make me not want to put a filter in?

blacksan
05-05-2007, 08:25 PM
so was it a problem that they tested with one type of filter? was any info released or something substantial to make me not want to put a filter in?

From what I gathered there was an overheating problem with the filter installed. They (article) did not get very specific, but I assume it was the AC system that was effected. So, if you live in Canada (my assumption) it would most likely not be as much of a factor as living in Saudi Arabia when it comes to normal operating temperatures. But of course I am a nobody and all this theory is worth about one squirt of duck shit in the real world.:biggrin:

ToyotaTEch21
05-05-2007, 08:40 PM
so was it a problem that they tested with one type of filter? was any info released or something substantial to make me not want to put a filter in?

I can only speculate thats why the yaris doesnt have them. The issue decribed was on the scion Tc, its possible that the yaris had the same problem but I haven't seen anything stating the yaris definetly has the same issue.

Just wondering Is it really that important to everybody that the air you breath out side the car is filtered when you are inside the car? If I get a chance I will call Toyota Technical support on monday and see if I can dig up any hard facts.

kaboom
05-05-2007, 08:56 PM
well, not having to dust the interior daily is what really matters to me ....
kd

blacksan
05-05-2007, 09:18 PM
well, not having to dust the interior daily is what really matters to me ....
kd

+10,000 :biggrin: :bellyroll: :thumbsup:

Shroomster
05-06-2007, 12:20 AM
I can only speculate thats why the yaris doesnt have them. The issue decribed was on the scion Tc, its possible that the yaris had the same problem but I haven't seen anything stating the yaris definetly has the same issue.

Just wondering Is it really that important to everybody that the air you breath out side the car is filtered when you are inside the car? If I get a chance I will call Toyota Technical support on monday and see if I can dig up any hard facts.

in case you missed it, were in florida, well we're as in my wife and I.
wildfires, high pollen counts all the time...plus all that circulating into the HVAC system isn't good for the motors/actuators and the blower motor....at least down here I would think it'd be bad for it...

blacksan
05-06-2007, 12:32 AM
I will try it here in VA (hot summer) and report my findings. If anyone can find it for less then $25.00 please let me know!

Black Yaris
05-06-2007, 12:39 AM
Never? Then why does it have the spot for it? It was designed to have it originally but they had issues. You dont think they could have come to this conclusion before the car hit the market. Dont act like I dont know what I'm talking about with your WRONG and NEVER HAD. Fact of the matter is if the car NEVER had one they wouldn't know there were cooling issues. So how am I wrong? please explain.

+1 on above post, he gets it.

Hes's got ya there Rockland.... Never is one of those words that should not be used for the exact reason ToyotaTech shot you down

Shroomster
05-06-2007, 12:21 PM
I will try it here in VA (hot summer) and report my findings. If anyone can find it for less then $25.00 please let me know!

dealer near me wants 38 for it...I've got three other to call...

ToyotaTEch21
05-06-2007, 01:25 PM
in case you missed it, were in florida, well we're as in my wife and I.
wildfires, high pollen counts all the time...plus all that circulating into the HVAC system isn't good for the motors/actuators and the blower motor....at least down here I would think it'd be bad for it...

Thats good enough for me, I just get customers that think cabin filters are saving them from certain death. I think they are a nice addition, and i get paid good to change them :cool: but most of the cars you have driven in your life didnt have them so "whats the big deal now" was my thoughts. I however living in NY dont have to deal with wild fires and nasty pollen.

blacksan
05-06-2007, 01:33 PM
We have tons of pollen here which would make the filter nice in my car.

Newyaris
05-06-2007, 02:41 PM
This is the letter I have sent to Toyota Europe!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/Alex-R/Yaris/04032007172.jpg
Dear sir/madam,

I am an owner of a Toyota Yaris 1.3 5D SOL, which I bought in Greece one (1) year ago. I have paid almost 15.000 € and till now I am very satisfied with my car. Nevertheless, with this e-mail I would like to make a complaint.

A few days ago I discovered that my car is not equipped with an A/C filter (situated behind the glove compartment). That fact was not mentioned by the salesman when I bought the car and the owner's manual does not mention that the filter is extra and installed in some versions only!

Further to our telephone conversation (08/03/2007) about the lack of cabin filter, I have spoken with Toyota Hellas – Greece, as I was instructed by your Customer Service. They said me that the lack of cabin filter is normal and I could buy it. Unfortunately my dealer says that he cannot order it. Another dealer said that he found it and it costs 59€. I think that I will find a solution and I will finally manage to buy the filter.

As I am allergic and air pollution is high where I live, I consider this matter very important. It is a matter of health and comfort. I strongly believe that Toyota, the world's second car manufacturer shares the same ideas about the importance of health and comfort. It would be very kind of you to inform me officially, in order to protect my legal right's, if the lack of cabin filter in my Yaris version is a policy of Toyota Europe or Toyota Hellas – Greece. The car is shipped from France with or without the filter? Thank you in advance!


Waiting your quick response,


Second letter and response....

Dear Mrs Mboga,

Thank you for quick reply!

You have answered me officially that Yaris SOL are shiped without a filter from the factory. I have allready (without waiting for your instruction) contacted Toyota Hellas S.A. and I am waiting their responce.

I have some more questions for you.

1) Is passenger's health affected by the lack of cabin filter?
2) Why the filter is not mentioned in the extras catalog, along with the other accesories?
3) Why does Toyota sacrifises it's reputation for such a cheap accesorie?
4) Do you think that all these Yaris owner's who discovered this situation will buy again a Toyota? (It is not something obvious like the fog light's for e.x.!)

I am sorry but I am realy mad and disappointed...

Thank you very much for your time,

******** **********

Ref. 1017501


Brussels 13 March 2007



Dear Mr. *********,


I contacted our technical department and they informed me that you can
install a
filter in your Yaris, I believe your Yaris is fitted with a manual A/C that
is why it has
no filter. Please note that the Yaris fitted with an automatic A/C has a
filter.
Nevertheless you can install the filter in your Yaris Part number is 87139
0D010.
But as I do not have details of your vehicle I strongly advise you to
contact your
dealer or Toyota Hellas and they will be able to assist you further.

In regard to your questions I have forwarded them to the relevant
department.


I hope this information will be of help.

Kind regards,

Yours sincerely,



In addition I had exchanged many e-mails with Toyota Greece.... I don't have time to translate them...

blacksan
05-06-2007, 03:53 PM
Manual AC vs Automatic AC??? What the hell is the difference???

Newyaris
05-06-2007, 05:21 PM
This is manual:
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/sc/31861400-2-300-DT1.gif

and this auto:

http://www.toyota.gr/Images/t7_yar05_car_gal_23_prev_tcm273-336801.gif

The first sends air till you freeze or you stop it... The second one sends air until the temperature reaches the prefered level, allready set by the driver...

blacksan
05-06-2007, 05:25 PM
Oh, I see. It looks like the more money you spend on options the better chance you have getting the filter.

The other thing I noticed about your picture was the black filter housing. Mine is white?

BTW, do you have the push button starter on your car?

Newyaris
05-06-2007, 05:51 PM
The filter housing is as you see it in the picture.

I don't have the Start button! That is provided with the most expensive Yaris! About 17.000 euros.... I have paid 15.000! With 2000 more I would get: Fog lamps Front, Inside door handle in silver look, 15" Alloy Wheels, Auto A/C, Keyless Entry & Start and of course a ... cabin filter...
The tragic thing is that the old Yaris/Echo had a cabin filter... The new one hasn't... Progress... Innovation... 15.000 € = 20.000$!!!!!!!!!! That is more than a year's salaries for me...

blacksan
05-06-2007, 05:58 PM
The filter housing is as you see it in the picture.

I don't have the Start button! That is provided with the most expensive Yaris! About 17.000 euros.... I have paid 15.000! With 2000 more I would get: Fog lamps Front, Inside door handle in silver look, 15" Alloy Wheels, Auto A/C, Keyless Entry & Start and of course a ... cabin filter...
The tragic thing is that the old Yaris/Echo had a cabin filter... The new one hasn't... Progress... Innovation... 15.000 € = 20.000$!!!!!!!!!! That is more than a year's salaries for me...

I like the start button. It reminds me of the "Old School" stuff when I was a kid.

What is your profession?

eco
05-06-2007, 10:05 PM
It looks like the designers got somthing wrong.The reason is because an auto would shut-off before any damage is done to the compressor,a manual could be left on as long as the key was in the ignition,as anyone left theyre's on all day?

Newyaris
05-07-2007, 04:52 AM
You could make an auto A/C work all day! By setting the temperature at the lowest point on a hot day... Damage to the compressor?

Shroomster
05-07-2007, 10:22 AM
Thats good enough for me, I just get customers that think cabin filters are saving them from certain death. I think they are a nice addition, and i get paid good to change them :cool: but most of the cars you have driven in your life didnt have them so "whats the big deal now" was my thoughts. I however living in NY dont have to deal with wild fires and nasty pollen.

lucky sob hehe; but yeah it never used to be a problem,least as much as I can remember about the wildfires at least....

ROCKLAND TOYOTA
05-07-2007, 01:09 PM
toyotatech makes me laugh!!!! first of all if you did re-search you'd see the tc and camry share a lot of things 1 of them being cooling parts. the tc shows a hole for the filter cause the camry can use one with no problem. are you trying to say there were tc's released that had filters in them but they stopped using them due to problems???? i don't think so!!!!! NO TC EVER PRODUCED CAME WITH A CABIN AIR FILTER..........

ToyotaTEch21
05-07-2007, 07:50 PM
toyotatech makes me laugh!!!! first of all if you did re-search you'd see the tc and camry share a lot of things 1 of them being cooling parts. the tc shows a hole for the filter cause the camry can use one with no problem. are you trying to say there were tc's released that had filters in them but they stopped using them due to problems???? i don't think so!!!!! NO TC EVER PRODUCED CAME WITH A CABIN AIR FILTER..........

let me display my first post...

I cant say for sure why the yaris doesn't have one but I can tell you that on the Tc they had them but they actually had a cooling problem with them in there, so Toyota opted to just take them out. No official word from Toyota that I've heard but this could be the same with our Yarii

So where did I ever say they were released with one? Should I have said they tested the car with them? would that have made you happy? Read again very closely. I in no way ever said they came off the assembly line that way, you are just twisting what I said.

Newyaris
05-07-2007, 09:23 PM
I think that we are missing the point here...
The point is THE LACK OF THE FILTER!

I don't care why or when or how! It is missing!

I have got an official answer from Toyota Europe that the car is shiped without a filter... There is no excuse about that! Only cost reduction and at the same time potencial health risk for the passengers!

When I asked them: Is my health affected by the lack of cabin filter?
They answered: Toyota has now evidence about that...:iono:

barebonedvitz
05-08-2007, 04:04 AM
Plus we can greatly benefit putting in our own filter.... I use Purolator C38188 cabin filter and it works great. Ran A/C today with no problems ( even on "low" fan setting). I checked with local Toyota dealer's parts dept ( Don Joseph in Kent, OH) and the counter dude was suprised that there IS a part listed in the book. He quoted me @ $ 32.40 plus tx on OEM Toyota cabin filter for my Yaris............duh
kd

damnn i get mine from the dealership for less than $20 (dats wid employee pricing).. i'm lookin at the the bosch's tho... i like their premium filters, got better filtering capabilities compared to the thin-ass toyota ones.

blacksan
05-08-2007, 06:34 AM
damnn i get mine from the dealership for less than $20 (dats wid employee pricing).. i'm lookin at the the bosch's tho... i like their premium filters, got better filtering capabilities compared to the thin-ass toyota ones.

Do you have the Bosch part number?

mkorejwo
05-08-2007, 09:44 PM
Yes I have no filter. Geeze. I popped the glove box the first day I had my Yaris, March 30, 2007, and marvelled at how clean my interior air will be, never verifying the presence of said filter. Tonight I just ran out and pulled the cover just like your guys have, and, no filter. Harmful, nope, I ride a motorcycle. Misleading, slightly. Thank you for mentioning this.

blacksan
05-08-2007, 09:46 PM
No prob, cough, cough, wheeez, spit.

yuiedie
05-08-2007, 09:55 PM
I know the first gen XBs didnt have an ac filter as well. I had to custom make my own since the factory one was a ripoff. If I recall, echos also lacked an air filter. not sure if XAs came with one.

RogueYaris
05-26-2007, 06:20 PM
Does all this filter crap even matter if I don't run the climate control? I do use it during the winter but it's not like there's a lot pollen running around then.

blacksan
05-26-2007, 06:46 PM
Does all this filter crap even matter if I don't run the climate control? I do use it during the winter but it's not like there's a lot pollen running around then.

If you like to cut down on dust, pollen, and everything else in particle form being sucked in the cabin you might appreciate it. If you don't have a need/desire to keep this stuff out of the car then the filter will mean nothing to you.

sam07yaris
05-29-2007, 10:29 AM
i used to work for a honda dealership and yet they have cabin air filters .. my ex g/f's 2004 honda civic VP .. lowest of the lowest of civics.. like a civic dx. has a cabin air filter. So ours should have one as well

caveatipse
08-25-2007, 07:58 PM
Would my US Yaris with Convenience Package come with an A/C filter installed?

BailOut
08-25-2007, 08:55 PM
Probably not, but It only takes 10 seconds to take out the glove box, pinch the 2 little points and remove the cover of the filter spot to check. That's your best bet.

barebonedvitz
08-25-2007, 09:01 PM
yup!

if it didn't come with a filter, like mine, just go get one @ the dealer.

black2yaris
08-26-2007, 01:05 AM
bump this to the top with a question .... Did anyone find out a good price yet on the cabin filter Toyota or other wise

kimona
08-26-2007, 01:34 AM
You can buy a Purolator #C38188 A/C cabin filter (about $10) from an auto parts store .

caveatipse
08-26-2007, 02:15 AM
So what is the answer? Does the filter cause overheating problems or not?

kimona
08-26-2007, 02:44 AM
So what is the answer? Does the filter cause overheating problems or not?

No! The simple reason Toyota didn't install a cabin A/C filter is because the OEM filter frame does not fit into the blower unit (which is crammed far to the left behind the glovebox).

However, you can gently twist a filter into the unit without using a frame.

BailOut
08-26-2007, 03:32 AM
I think this may have been mentioned before but I wanted to share that I bought 1 of the allergen-rated central air-style filters for $15 and cut it up using tin snips to create 8 cabin filters. I just used duct tape to finish off the non-paperboard edges.

8 great filters for $15 and 20 minutes of work.

caveatipse
08-26-2007, 04:30 PM
Ok I checked it and it does not have a filter. Ripoff! I am going to order one online and install it. Seems silly to me that they could not spring for a cheap piece of paper.

caveatipse
08-26-2007, 04:31 PM
I think this may have been mentioned before but I wanted to share that I bought 1 of the allergen-rated central air-style filters for $15 and cut it up using tin snips to create 8 cabin filters. I just used duct tape to finish off the non-paperboard edges.

8 great filters for $15 and 20 minutes of work.

Good idea!

slvryaris
08-26-2007, 06:53 PM
Look in the manual, but I think it says that it needs one for the AC to run properly. I was skimming through it and I thnk thatas what it said. Mine did not have one in it so I went to Advance Auto Parts and bought one. There is a part number on here for a Purolator Filter but it doenst fit correctly without cutting some.

kimona
08-26-2007, 07:08 PM
Mine did not have one in it so I went to Advance Auto Parts and bought one. There is a part number on here for a Purolator Filter but it doenst fit correctly without cutting some.

I bought the Purolator #C38188 cabin A/C filter from Advance Auto Parts and it fits right out of the box with absolutely no need to trim it!

slvryaris
08-26-2007, 07:41 PM
hmmm....I forget the one that was posted on here but it was from a while back so I will have to go get one now. The other one is all scrunched up but still works. Thanks for the info Kimona.

black2yaris
08-27-2007, 02:58 AM
Wife goes into Kragen auto parts ask for the purolator filter with # the guy never heard of purolator filters , she goes can you cross check the # to what you have in stock ,they seem to carry bosch. he goes I can't do that . he goes what car ? she says Yaris, he goes what model ve,le, ce ? She says "No l/b or sedan is all they make & i want a Lifback " he says only the dealers have it .. i know for a fact that there is a cross ref# in his catalog . but seeing how i could not strangle him over the phone from work , i;ll have to go mono on mono on him tomorrow before i go to work:evil: :evil:

damn Yahoo's work for a auto parts store who don't know shit about cars ! No wonder everyone is buyin online these days .. ok rant over !!

YarisTom73
08-27-2007, 08:56 AM
Wife goes into Kragen auto parts ask for the purolator filter with # the guy never heard of purolator filters , she goes can you cross check the # to what you have in stock ,they seem to carry bosch. he goes I can't do that . he goes what car ? she says Yaris, he goes what model ve,le, ce ? She says "No l/b or sedan is all they make & i want a Lifback " he says only the dealers have it .. i know for a fact that there is a cross ref# in his catalog . but seeing how i could not strangle him over the phone from work , i;ll have to go mono on mono on him tomorrow before i go to work:evil: :evil:

damn Yahoo's work for a auto parts store who don't know shit about cars ! No wonder everyone is buyin online these days .. ok rant over !!
I used the Bosch because I think Bosch products are better quality. I paid $15 at Autozone, they crossed that Purolator # without an issue. Good luck :smile:

steved
08-27-2007, 09:17 AM
I used the Bosch because I think Bosch products are better quality. I paid $15 at Autozone, they crossed that Purolator # without an issue. Good luck :smile:

What is the Bosch part #?

kimona
08-27-2007, 10:10 AM
I used the Bosch because I think Bosch products are better quality. I paid $15 at Autozone, they crossed that Purolator # without an issue. Good luck :smile:

Yeah, what is the Bosch part #, please?

Black Yaris
08-27-2007, 12:15 PM
What is the Bosch part #?

Yeah, what is the Bosch part #, please?

p3750

crossed it at work for you

kimona
08-27-2007, 12:18 PM
p3750

crossed it at work for you

Thanks, Black Yaris.

Astroman
08-27-2007, 12:39 PM
I think this may have been mentioned before but I wanted to share that I bought 1 of the allergen-rated central air-style filters for $15 and cut it up using tin snips to create 8 cabin filters. I just used duct tape to finish off the non-paperboard edges.

8 great filters for $15 and 20 minutes of work.

That's what I did and it works great! I can't believe how much junk is in there already.

Black Yaris
08-27-2007, 12:41 PM
yeah... after painting parts of my dash black, it showed much more dust

steved
08-27-2007, 12:44 PM
p3750

crossed it at work for you


thank you, black Yaris.

YarisTom73
08-27-2007, 01:14 PM
p3750

crossed it at work for you

Thanks man, I lost the slip, which I put away so carefully so as not to lose the part # :iono:

black2yaris
08-28-2007, 04:34 AM
COOL............ Thanks BlackYaris...........

Super_BQ
09-11-2007, 08:11 AM
HI Guys,

Just to let you know that my Yaris purchased in New Zealand also does NOT COME with the cabin filter. My Yaris has the 1NZFE (1.5L motor) 4 door hatch.

So it must be a world wide choice that Toyota decided to exclude the filter on even cars with the steering made on the opposite side.

BQ

IanCFitz
09-11-2007, 10:40 AM
This cracks me up, On page 159 of the US 2007 yaris sedan manual it says:


The air filter should be installed properly in position. The use of air conditioning with the air filter removed may cause deteriorated dustproof performance and then affect air conditioning performance.


OK then where the !&@% is my filter?

I guess its off to autozone to find one...

slvryaris
09-11-2007, 09:57 PM
I would take it to the dealer and get a free one. Just complain that the manual says what it says then they should give ya one. Just deal with a manager or something. They should give in. I am going to go and complain when I get my oil changed this week.

kimona
09-11-2007, 11:10 PM
I would take it to the dealer and get a free one. Just complain that the manual says what it says then they should give ya one. Just deal with a manager or something. They should give in. I am going to go and complain when I get my oil changed this week.

Hmmm... I would be interested to hear the dealers response. Please keep us informed.

slvryaris
09-12-2007, 04:08 AM
I am thinking the same but it would be like not having an air filter in the intake well one is more sever then the other but...... It is suppose to be there and its not. No where in the manual does it say it is optional. I am sure if you bitched enough and say something like your gonna let Toyota know then I imagine they would give ya one since it is suppose to be in there and its not.

Newyaris
09-12-2007, 08:26 AM
Please let us know about the result!

Here in Greece the filter is not included!
I have contacted (by email or phone) the Toyota offices in Greece, Europe (Belgium) and Japan and they gave me the same answer: "That's the way it is! No filter! Buy one if you like!" :thumbdown:

kimona
09-12-2007, 10:32 AM
Most of this info has been posted before (#73, 78, 84)) and in a few other threads, but for those of you who missed some of it...

As I understand the situation, Toyota did not include the A/C filter because the filter frame will not fit due to the position of the blower. Toyota believed that if the filter frame could not fit, then the filter could not be installed properly. The frame and filter are an assembly unit. So, they just left it out! It's that simple as far as Toyota was concerned.

Unfortunately, the owners manual refers to the A/C cabin filter probably because it should definitely be standard equipment and it was assumed it would be... only later to discover the filter frame wouldn't fit. More unfortunately, the dealers know absolutely nothing about this situation and are totally in the dark when confronted with it. Seems to be a breakdown in communication at several levels.

I only discovered that the car had no filter when something from my glove box got sucked into the blower and began making all kinds of noise. Other yarisworld members have had the same experience. Indeed, it is a problem!

Thankfully, we at yarisworld have found that a filter will in fact fit (with a bit of gentle massaging) and function quite well without the filter frame. It's a quick, easy, and inexpensive install.

At this point, we've learned that a Purolator filter #C38188 and Bosch filter #P3750 will fit adequately right out of the box.

So now the qustion has risen once again... what will Toyota and/or the dealer do about all this?

black2yaris
09-12-2007, 11:27 AM
Most of this info has been posted before (#73, 78, 84)) and in a few other threads, but for those of you who missed some of it...

As I understand the situation, Toyota did not include the A/C filter because the filter frame will not fit due to the position of the blower. Toyota believed that if the filter frame could not fit, then the filter could not be installed properly. The frame and filter are an assembly unit. So, they just left it out! It's that simple as far as Toyota was concerned.

Unfortunately, the owners manual refers to the A/C cabin filter probably because it should definitely be standard equipment and it was assumed it would be... only later to discover the filter frame wouldn't fit. More unfortunately, the dealers know absolutely nothing about this situation and are totally in the dark when confronted with it. Seems to be a breakdown in communication at several levels.

I only discovered that the car had no filter when something from my glove box got sucked into the blower and began making all kinds of noise. Other yarisworld members have had the same experience. Indeed, it is a problem!

Thankfully, we at yarisworld have found that a filter will in fact fit (with a bit of gentle massaging) and function quite well without the filter frame. It's a quick, easy, and inexpensive install.

At this point, we've learned that a Purolator filter #C38188 and Bosch filter #P3750 will fit adequately right out of the box.

So now the qustion has risen once again... what will Toyota and/or the dealer do about all this?

like your avitar , you must bend over when you ask that question at the dealership & assume the position .......:evil:

devinlamothe
09-12-2007, 06:54 PM
Just a note - I have a 2007 4-door hatch and my car does have a cabin air filter. Also, the dealer knows about the filter, and even my service schedule recommends it being changed every couple of months due to potential mold/blockages. BTW, I live in Canada. :)

Super_BQ
09-12-2007, 10:33 PM
I have contacted (by email or phone) the Toyota offices in Greece, Europe (Belgium) and Japan and they gave me the same answer: "That's the way it is! No filter! Buy one if you like!"

Upon getting a price quote for the filter here in NZ, the parts dept. called me back and mentioned that none of the Yaris models in NZ come with the filter. So from the dealer's standpoint, they're quite firm about not giving them out.

BTW, price for one shipped overnight = $60NZ ($42 USD)

Emailed my father to check the local Napa dealer in Canada. $20 cdn - I told him to buy 2 to bring over. Though they are not the Bosch or Purolator one, they said it was the equivalent replacement.

kimona
09-12-2007, 11:19 PM
Just a note - I have a 2007 4-door hatch and my car does have a cabin air filter. Also, the dealer knows about the filter, and even my service schedule recommends it being changed every couple of months due to potential mold/blockages. BTW, I live in Canada. :)

Well, the sedan probably has a cabin A/C filter quite simply because it is not a Yaris; it is a Belta, designed and built by a different division of Toyota. I assume the blower unit fits in the Belta such that the filter and frame assembly can be installed.

caveatipse
09-13-2007, 02:10 AM
Most of this info has been posted before (#73, 78, 84)) and in a few other threads, but for those of you who missed some of it...

As I understand the situation, Toyota did not include the A/C filter because the filter frame will not fit due to the position of the blower. Toyota believed that if the filter frame could not fit, then the filter could not be installed properly. The frame and filter are an assembly unit. So, they just left it out! It's that simple as far as Toyota was concerned.

Unfortunately, the owners manual refers to the A/C cabin filter probably because it should definitely be standard equipment and it was assumed it would be... only later to discover the filter frame wouldn't fit. More unfortunately, the dealers know absolutely nothing about this situation and are totally in the dark when confronted with it. Seems to be a breakdown in communication at several levels.

I only discovered that the car had no filter when something from my glove box got sucked into the blower and began making all kinds of noise. Other yarisworld members have had the same experience. Indeed, it is a problem!

Thankfully, we at yarisworld have found that a filter will in fact fit (with a bit of gentle massaging) and function quite well without the filter frame. It's a quick, easy, and inexpensive install.

At this point, we've learned that a Purolator filter #C38188 and Bosch filter #P3750 will fit adequately right out of the box.

So now the qustion has risen once again... what will Toyota and/or the dealer do about all this?

The Toyota filter also fits just fine without a frame.

black2yaris
09-13-2007, 07:16 AM
The Toyota filter also fits just fine without a frame.

But the others are cheaper in price !!

rdenisonjr
03-25-2009, 10:02 PM
I found the part number quite easily in the Pep Boys parts catalog, it seems that RAV-4 have the same filter as well as several other models -- cost about 12 bucks

JBougie
03-25-2009, 10:12 PM
Well, the sedan probably has a cabin A/C filter quite simply because it is not a Yaris; it is a Belta, designed and built by a different division of Toyota. I assume the blower unit fits in the Belta such that the filter and frame assembly can be installed.

My sedan did not come with one - after we bought the car that is something that my husband looked for. I called the dealership and they said that Toyota doesn't supply them, but I could buy one from them for $40. That will never happen.

I am going to be buying one of the ones suggest in this thread however, because I have been trying to find one that would fit.

:thumbup:

voodoo22
03-26-2009, 07:38 AM
In Canada the dealer always wants to replace these every 16k km's for 52$! Bailouts walkthrough will save me 100's and it takes absolutely no mechanical acumen to follow and execute.

b_hickman11
03-26-2009, 01:29 PM
My sedan did not come with one - after we bought the car that is something that my husband looked for. I called the dealership and they said that Toyota doesn't supply them, but I could buy one from them for $40. That will never happen.

I am going to be buying one of the ones suggest in this thread however, because I have been trying to find one that would fit.

:thumbup:

Go to your Local O'Reilly Auto Parts. They have them and they are only $8.99 and they are a perfect fit. Item # 3679

1stToyota
03-31-2009, 01:56 PM
Go to your Local O'Reilly Auto Parts. They have them and they are only $8.99 and they are a perfect fit. Item # 3679

And they should be good for about 15K miles, so about $20.00 for 2 years worth. Sure beats the heck out of one with a filtering surface area that's half cardboard and duct tape.

buchieboy
03-31-2009, 09:38 PM
aside from the glove compartment? is there any other place where the cabin filter is located?
I cant remove my darn glovebox

AlexNet0
03-31-2009, 10:00 PM
pull up and the bottom will pop up and then slide the box down and it will come free.

unless yours is different