June '15 Yaris Sales: Up

[Thirty-Nine]

June was a good month for the Yaris. Sales were up 112.6% vs. June of '14 with a total of 2,810 models moved. This means year-to-date sales are now up 48.7% with a total of 12,688 Yaris models sold.

Full subcompact car sales results here:

http://www.subcompactculture.com/2015/07/june-2015-subcompact-car-sales.html

[Kalispel]

Sadly, I can probably count the number of 2015 Yaris that I have seen on the road since they arrived, on one hand. Perhaps it's just my area, as I don't see very many Yaris Sedans or 2007-2014 hatchbacks either.

[428CobraJet]

For a 2015 model...they are ' everywhere' here in the Houston area.
:-) :-) :-)
Maybe it will create a pause for Toyota.

[thewickett]

they're selling a lot more 5dr L and LE to rental companies. Not being negative, it is what it is - it just means more on the used market down to road to pick from.

[428CobraJet]

Yes...ive noticed no change in the lack of Yaris in stock at dealers. Btw, looked at one yesterday and thought it interesting that French content was only 20%. 40% Japanese (engine/transmission)

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[nookandcrannycar]

they're selling a lot more 5dr L and LE to rental companies

Yep. I've seen quite a few in the Houston area and in California. Most have been rental cars (bar code sticker in one of the rear door windows).

[Kalispel]

I read somewhere that Toyota's annual sales goal in 2015 for the U.S. market was 18,000 Yaris units sold.

I also read an article today that indicated there would be new color selections available on the 2016 Yaris, along with a different alloy wheel design. Perhaps they will bring the nice-looking 'Brown Sugar Metallic' that is already available in Canada (on certain trims) to the U.S. market for 2016. That is my 2nd favorite color for the current Yaris SE incarnation, with the 1st choice being white. :)

[BLKHILLSGUY]

I read somewhere that Toyota's annual sales goal in 2015 for the U.S. market was 18,000 Yaris units sold.

I also read an article today that indicated there would be new color selections available on the 2016 Yaris, along with a different alloy wheel design. Perhaps they will bring the nice-looking 'Brown Sugar Metallic' that is already available in Canada (on certain trims) to the U.S. market for 2016. That is my 2nd favorite color for the current Yaris SE incarnation, with the 1st choice being white. :)

Might you have a link to that info, or tell me where I can view it? I am very curious as to what new color choice might be added. I'm looking at a 16 in white. SE and manual of course. The only other color that I like is the blue. But I don't know if I'd get tired of that color day in and day out. The white is so clean and just pops with tinted windows.

[Thirty-Nine]

FWIW, I saw two brand-new 2015s on the drive home yesterday. Still had dealer plates on them.

[Kalispel]

Might you have a link to that info, or tell me where I can view it? I am very curious as to what new color choice might be added. I'm looking at a 16 in white. SE and manual of course. The only other color that I like is the blue. But I don't know if I'd get tired of that color day in and day out. The white is so clean and just pops with tinted windows.

No, sorry I do not have a link. Just something that I read while bouncing around the internet looking for 2015-2016 Yaris information and such. They didn't mention any specific colors, only that there was supposed to be new color options, along with different alloys.

I'm really surprised that the Yaris doesn't sell better, especially the 2015, since most YouTube SE reviews are pretty favorable - with the only complaint really being 'average acceleration' (especially with auto) and '4 speed automatic' instead of 5 speed automatic or CVT. The new SE styling is well-received (exterior and interior) and the handling/brakes/ride of the SE are rated very high and on par with current Mazda 'fun to drive' dynamics. Really, the only thing missing for me personally is the lack of Pandora availability on the Yaris touchscreen radio system versus other current Toyota models.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

No, sorry I do not have a link. Just something that I read while bouncing around the internet looking for 2015-2016 Yaris information and such. They didn't mention any specific colors, only that there was supposed to be new color options, along with different alloys.

I'm really surprised that the Yaris doesn't sell better, especially the 2015, since most YouTube SE reviews are pretty favorable - with the only complaint really being 'average acceleration' (especially with auto) and '4 speed automatic' instead of 5 speed automatic or CVT. The new SE styling is well-received (exterior and interior) and the handling/brakes/ride of the SE are rated very high and on par with current Mazda 'fun to drive' dynamics. Really, the only thing missing for me personally is the lack of Pandora availability on the Yaris touchscreen radio system versus other current Toyota models.

I'd likely install XM on my Yaris. Have it on my Avalon and I like it. Still an extra bill each month though.

[nookandcrannycar]

along with different alloys.

OMG, let's hope so :eek::biggrin:!!!

[Kalispel]

OMG, let's hope so :eek::biggrin:!!!

I'm tempted to wait and see if the alloys do change, and to what exactly - but I've already worked out a deal at a local Toyota dealership to get a white 2015 SE automatic in about two weeks when it arrives. I finally decided to go automatic (first one ever!), since I'm 50 years old and plan to drive this car for at least the next 15 years. :thumbup: Heck, it will probably outlive me, lol.

I was able to use the incoming 2016 models and the fact that so many Yaris are sitting on lots already around the country for 100-300+ days unsold to iron out a deal that I can live with ($16.400 base, $825 destination). With sales tax and tag/license/docs included total price was around $19K. The only added options that I got with that pricing was the front/rear/trunk mats.

The first things I will do to the car is tint the windows 35% or so on all side/back windows (I hate darker back and lighter fronts), pick up some different alloy wheels (and sell OEM ones), and see what I can find in the way of a nice exhaust tip (which should have been standard equipment on the SE). I'm not sure yet if the TRD rear sway bar fits this car, or if it's even needed with the SE's "sports-tuned suspension". I'm interested in a cold air intake, but will probably wait until the car goes out of warranty before doing it.

[428CobraJet]

An auto se for 16.4? Sticker must be 18.5?
Wow! !!!

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[Kalispel]

An auto se for 16.4? Sticker must be 18.5?
Wow! !!!

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Sticker price includes the base price and the standard $825 destination/shipping charges getting the car from Toyota to dealer, so in my case it was $17.3K versus standard $18.6K MSRP sticker. Basically, I got it for ~$1300 off manufacturer suggest retail - or $1500 off retail technically, since I managed to wrangle the front/back/trunk floor mats into the deal also. It matches up pretty closely with the listed Kelly Blue Book (KBB) "fair price" value for the 2015 Yaris SE auto.

[NYC-SE]

I'm not sure yet if the TRD rear sway bar fits this car, or if it's even needed with the SE's "sports-tuned suspension".

Yes the TRD rear sway bar fits, I have one on my 2014 and don't think there were any major changes to the rear suspension on the facelifted 2015+ models. Be aware if you do install it that there are “rear axle beam dynamic dampers” installed on SE models in the upper mounting holes that you need for the sway bar install. You can either discard them or order new mounting bolts and install both sway bar and dampers like I did on mine. Details here:

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52593

Again I can not swear that it's the exact same set-up on the 2015+ models but I strongly suspect so.

Do you "need" the sway bar? That's for each to decide but I definitely noticed a positive difference with mine.

[nookandcrannycar]

I'm tempted to wait and see if the alloys do change, and to what exactly - but I've already worked out a deal at a local Toyota dealership to get a white 2015 SE automatic in about two weeks when it arrives. I finally decided to go automatic (first one ever!), since I'm 50 years old and plan to drive this car for at least the next 15 years. :thumbup: Heck, it will probably outlive me, lol.

I was able to use the incoming 2016 models and the fact that so many Yaris are sitting on lots already around the country for 100-300+ days unsold to iron out a deal that I can live with ($16.400 base, $825 destination). With sales tax and tag/license/docs included total price was around $19K. The only added options that I got with that pricing was the front/rear/trunk mats.

The first things I will do to the car is tint the windows 35% or so on all side/back windows (I hate darker back and lighter fronts), pick up some different alloy wheels (and sell OEM ones), and see what I can find in the way of a nice exhaust tip (which should have been standard equipment on the SE). I'm not sure yet if the TRD rear sway bar fits this car, or if it's even needed with the SE's "sports-tuned suspension". I'm interested in a cold air intake, but will probably wait until the car goes out of warranty before doing it.

Congrats :thumbup:!!!

[nookandcrannycar]

Yes the TRD rear sway bar fits, I have one on my 2014 and don't think there were any major changes to the rear suspension on the facelifted 2015+ models. Be aware if you do install it that there are “rear axle beam dynamic dampers” installed on SE models in the upper mounting holes that you need for the sway bar install. You can either discard them or order new mounting bolts and install both sway bar and dampers like I did on mine. Details here:

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52593

Again I can not swear that it's the exact same set-up on the 2015+ models but I strongly suspect so.

Do you "need" the sway bar? That's for each to decide but I definitely noticed a positive difference with mine.

A few days ago I took my '14 in to a Toyota dealer for one of the factory paid for 5k services for the first 25k miles. The waiting 'room' is really a 'space' (part of the showroom, rather than an adjoining 3 or 4 sided room). There was a loaded '15 Corolla S Premium on the showroom floor, so I sat in in the driver's seat. Has the same seats as your SE, except with leather. Also, it was the only (or perhaps one of only a few) current model S versions with an automatic that I've seen. The final factory sticker (including destination) was $24,509. The car also had an added dealer PAC sticker with 3 items on it --- 1. Aftermarket tires and wheels (nothing very special) --- 2. A sway bar. --- 3. A minimal body kit.......the total added amount of the PAC sticker.......$7,000.00 :eek::eek::eek::eek: (okay, $6,995.00 :biggrin:). So, the total with the PAC sticker was $31,504.00. Good luck :rolleyes:.

I wonder if they think the buyer won't know what a sway bar is or what it does :eek::biggrin:?

[428CobraJet]

Oh jeez...just where was that?

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[nookandcrannycar]

Oh jeez...just where was that?

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Not near Houston (I'm still in California right now, although coming back to Texas at the end of the month to do my '14 Yaris registration, take care of an issue with my HOA, and some other things). This Corolla was at an otherwise great dealership (I had the previous 5k service done there as well)...Ronnie Lott's Tracy Toyota (he also has other former players as partners....Keena Turner, etc). I'm a lifelong 49ers and Raiders fan, so I love all the memorabilia that is placed around the dealership.....49ers and Raiders jerseys...pictures at the Hall of Fame...pictures of all the Super Bowl trophies....a picture of players hoisting Eddie D off the ground, etc. Great service staff :thumbsup:. Very courteous, know their stuff, and great attention to detail.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

We sold a whopping......0 Yaris last month. I can't even remember the last time we sold a Yaris. With all of the incentives that Toyota has, initial shoppers for the Yaris end up either getting a Prius c or a Corolla. That, and Toyota has neglected the Yaris with updating it to keep up with its competitors...like really!? Keeping it a 4-spd automatic!? With the weight that's also been added to the latest refresh (airbags and growth in dimension), Toyota either needs to bump the hp and/or offer better transmissions (4-spd really makes the acceleration suffer).

[ABSPLASTIC]

We sold a whopping......0 Yaris last month. I can't even remember the last time we sold a Yaris. With all of the incentives that Toyota has, initial shoppers for the Yaris end up either getting a Prius c or a Corolla. That, and Toyota has neglected the Yaris with updating it to keep up with its competitors...like really!? Keeping it a 4-spd automatic!? With the weight that's also been added to the latest refresh (airbags and growth in dimension), Toyota either needs to bump the hp and/or offer better transmissions (4-spd really makes the acceleration suffer).

Bro! How you been?! Sorry to threadjack, but I have not seen your screen name in ages! lol

[nookandcrannycar]

We sold a whopping......0 Yaris last month. I can't even remember the last time we sold a Yaris. With all of the incentives that Toyota has, initial shoppers for the Yaris end up either getting a Prius c or a Corolla. That, and Toyota has neglected the Yaris with updating it to keep up with its competitors...like really!? Keeping it a 4-spd automatic!? With the weight that's also been added to the latest refresh (airbags and growth in dimension), Toyota either needs to bump the hp and/or offer better transmissions (4-spd really makes the acceleration suffer).

How many Yari do you have in stock :laugh: ?

[nookandcrannycar]

^^^^^ I imagine either very few that are 'stuck' re price (no incentives, as you mentioned.....and possibly with a PAC sticker)....or zero.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

A few days ago I took my '14 in to a Toyota dealer for one of the factory paid for 5k services for the first 25k miles. The waiting 'room' is really a 'space' (part of the showroom, rather than an adjoining 3 or 4 sided room). There was a loaded '15 Corolla S Premium on the showroom floor, so I sat in in the driver's seat. Has the same seats as your SE, except with leather. Also, it was the only (or perhaps one of only a few) current model S versions with an automatic that I've seen. The final factory sticker (including destination) was $24,509. The car also had an added dealer PAC sticker with 3 items on it --- 1. Aftermarket tires and wheels (nothing very special) --- 2. A sway bar. --- 3. A minimal body kit.......the total added amount of the PAC sticker.......$7,000.00 :eek::eek::eek::eek: (okay, $6,995.00 :biggrin:). So, the total with the PAC sticker was $31,504.00. Good luck :rolleyes:.

I wonder if they think the buyer won't know what a sway bar is or what it does :eek::biggrin:?

That's absolutely nuts. You can get a much nicer car for that money than a Corolla. Hell, I'm thinking for not much more you could get a nice new Tacoma. My decision is between the Yaris and the new Tacoma next July when I trade in the Avalon.

[nookandcrannycar]

That's absolutely nuts. You can get a much nicer car for that money than a Corolla. Hell, I'm thinking for not much more you could get a nice new Tacoma. My decision is between the Yaris and the new Tacoma next July when I trade in the Avalon.

Do you have any issues getting around during the winter in the (non AWD ?) Avalon ?

One thing I learned from the factory sticker....I didn't know where the Corolla is assembled....it is assempled in Tupelo, MS.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

Do you have any issues getting around during the winter in the (non AWD ?) Avalon ?

One thing I learned from the factory sticker....I didn't know where the Corolla is assembled....it is assempled in Tupelo, MS.

No, I get around pretty good. It's front wheel drive. It's a heavy car. Beautiful inside and out, but too fancy for me. I want simple and basic. Tired of the $600 payment too. But the heated front and rear seats is nice. I'll miss that feature the most. I also live in South Dakota and we get a lot of snow and ice. AWD is preferable around here. But front wheel will also do the job for the the most parts.

[nookandcrannycar]

No, I get around pretty good. It's front wheel drive. It's a heavy car. Beautiful inside and out, but too fancy for me. I want simple and basic. Tired of the $600 payment too. But the heated front and rear seats is nice. I'll miss that feature the most. I also live in South Dakota and we get a lot of snow and ice. AWD is preferable around here. But front wheel will also do the job for the the most parts.

:thumbsup: I guess I haven't combed the feature sets of extremely feature laden vehicles in enough detail.....I didn't know heated REAR seats even existed as a feature! I've only spent one winter LIVING in a 'harsh' winter climate, and I didn't drive. As such, this likely wouldn't have grabbed my attention as a feature...but I can see how it would for those who live and drive through winters in those conditions.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Bro! How you been?! Sorry to threadjack, but I have not seen your screen name in ages! lol

Been alright. Yeah, I stopped posting well before I traded in the Yaris. lol



How many Yari do you have in stock :laugh: ?

^^^^^ I imagine either very few that are 'stuck' re price (no incentives, as you mentioned.....and possibly with a PAC sticker)....or zero.

We have one, and it's been there for a long time. We don't do addendums on our cars like other dealerships. We may have a couple that have aftermarket leather in them, but we need to have something in stock to show what that would look like.

[Thirty-Nine]

We have one, and it's been there for a long time. We don't do addendums on our cars like other dealerships. We may have a couple that have aftermarket leather in them, but we need to have something in stock to show what that would look like.

I don't have to tell you, but there isn't much profit in a Yaris for the dealership. Not much incentive to move it, eh?

[Kalispel]

I don't have to tell you, but there isn't much profit in a Yaris for the dealership. Not much incentive to move it, eh?

Yeah, when I recently tried the only dealer in Phoenix that has a White 2015 Yaris SE (automatic) available, they wouldn't budge off of MSRP, offer a few cheap accessory incentives, or anything. The salesperson was robotic to the point of being comical and seemed to care less whether I bought the Yaris or not. :brokenheart:

I will post a rundown of my White 2015 Yaris SE purchase journey in about a week or two, after I receive shipment of the car from out-of-state.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

:drinking:I don't have to tell you, but there isn't much profit in a Yaris for the dealership. Not much incentive to move it, eh?

Pretty much the same way with any economy car. But you already know that. I'm sure it's the same way with the Versa Notes, and Chevy Sparks.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

Yeah, when I recently tried the only dealer in Phoenix that has a White 2015 Yaris SE (automatic) available, they wouldn't budge off of MSRP, offer a few cheap accessory incentives, or anything. The salesperson was robotic to the point of being comical and seemed to care less whether I bought the Yaris or not. :brokenheart:

I will post a rundown of my White 2015 Yaris SE purchase journey in about a week or two, after I receive shipment of the car from out-of-state.

I've had no problem finding an influx of automatic SE versions, but a manual, and white is harder than hell.

[Kalispel]

I've had no problem finding an influx of automatic SE versions, but a manual, and white is harder than hell.

Last I checked carguru.com & Autotrader.com only had TWO white 2015 manual SE models listed for the entire USA :frown: - one in CO & one in CA.

The good news is that I snagged the one in CO this week & it will be delivered to me here in AZ in about a week or two. :thumbsup: I ditched a really good deal on a white SE automatic at the last minute this week to get it. I figure this will likely be my last chance to enjoy a manual before age will begin to make it impractical (I'm 50 now). So, assuming my new Yaris doesn't outlive me, my next car will be an automatic. :rolleyes:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I don't have to tell you, but there isn't much profit in a Yaris for the dealership. Not much incentive to move it, eh?

Nope. Profit margin is probably 500-600 bucks? And since we discount all of our car already, my dealership only makes 100-200 bucks on a Yaris. :laugh:

Toyota had incentives on the Yaris two months ago, iirc. Still, no one bought.

[Kalispel]

Nope. Profit margin is probably 500-600 bucks? And since we discount all of our car already, my dealership only makes 100-200 bucks on a Yaris. :laugh:

Toyota had incentives on the Yaris two months ago, iirc. Still, no one bought.

In the U.S. Market. the Yaris is just stuck in a tough niche, and it doesn't help that Toyota treats it like "a red-headed-stepchild". Plus, many consumers have fallen for the fallacy that "latest tech" (such as a CVT) is better, despite the fact that it tends to lead to less reliability and/or more-expensive repairs -even if it might squeeze out an extra 1-3 MPG .

People in this segment shopping on a price/value basis, tend to head to the Nissan Versa. People shopping in this segment on a hype/recognition basis, read the fawning, biased reviews of the Honda Fit, and head in that direction (despite numerous recalls, super-ugly design, Mexico-origins, etc.). People looking for "hot hatches" tend to gravitate towards performance versions of the Ford Focus or certain European offerings. Toyota shoppers in this segment are herded towards the Corolla or the lower Prius models at nearly the same price-point as the Yaris after incentives.

The Yaris ends up being an completely overlooked sleeper, and it doesn't help probably that Toyota refuses to 'update' the automatic transmission in the USA to match some of its offshore versions of the car, or that they use the same 106HP engine in the SE, when something as simple as a 125-135hp engine would give it a LOT more buzz/interest among those people looking for a "sporty hatchback".

It just all boils down to a tough segment of the Market, and the fact that Toyota (or Mazda for that matter) isn't willing to put subcompacts like the Yaris (or Mazda2) into this market with the same level of commitment and attractive features as they are in other countries (or in Japan itself). We are an afterthought market when it comes to subcompacts and Japanese manufacturers in general, and it probably doesn't help that most Americans simply do not like really small cars, or hatchbacks in general (without something adding into the mix like high hybrid MPG numbers).

[428CobraJet]

I think i can get a 2015 Abarth for around the price of an se.

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[BLKHILLSGUY]

In the U.S. Market. the Yaris is just stuck in a tough niche, and it doesn't help that Toyota treats it like "a red-headed-stepchild". Plus, many consumers have fallen for the fallacy that "latest tech" (such as a CVT) is better, despite the fact that it tends to lead to less reliability and/or more-expensive repairs -even if it might squeeze out an extra 1-3 MPG .

People in this segment shopping on a price/value basis, tend to head to the Nissan Versa. People shopping in this segment on a hype/recognition basis, read the fawning, biased reviews of the Honda Fit, and head in that direction (despite numerous recalls, super-ugly design, Mexico-origins, etc.). People looking for "hot hatches" tend to gravitate towards performance versions of the Ford Focus or certain European offerings. Toyota shoppers in this segment are herded towards the Corolla or the lower Prius models at nearly the same price-point as the Yaris after incentives.

The Yaris ends up being an completely overlooked sleeper, and it doesn't help probably that Toyota refuses to 'update' the automatic transmission in the USA to match some of its offshore versions of the car, or that they use the same 106HP engine in the SE, when something as simple as a 125-135hp engine would give it a LOT more buzz/interest among those people looking for a "sporty hatchback".

It just all boils down to a tough segment of the Market, and the fact that Toyota (or Mazda for that matter) isn't willing to put subcompacts like the Yaris (or Mazda2) into this market with the same level of commitment and attractive features as they are in other countries (or in Japan itself). We are an afterthought market when it comes to subcompacts and Japanese manufacturers in general, and it probably doesn't help that most Americans simply do not like really small cars, or hatchbacks in general (without something adding into the mix like high hybrid MPG numbers).

Totally agree AND Americans have been spoiled with cheap gas for a LONG time, while other countries don't get that. When gas goes back up to $4+ nationwide(not just CA) a lot of Americans are going to be in a world of hurt with their monster trucks and SUV's. I'd like a new Tacoma, but I want a cheaper vehicle with decent gas mileage. It also needs to be a hatchback. So the Corolla is a no go. The Prius is hideous. Always has been. Thus the Yaris is right up my alley. And you can't beat the reliability and quality, even if it is pretty spartan and basic. Sometimes simple is good. At least it is for me the older I get. I'll be 40 in November, and I'm tired of huge expenses and complexity.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

I think i can get a 2015 Abarth for around the price of an se.

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Neat looking little cars. But what horrid reliability. Bottom in Consumer Reports for the past several years. And the Fiat 500 boards are full of people with lots of issues. If it was reliable, it would be a definite go. But as it is, not for me.

[428CobraJet]

Neat looking little cars. But what horrid reliability. Bottom in Consumer Reports for the past several years. And the Fiat 500 boards are full of people with lots of issues. If it was reliable, it would be a definite go. But as it is, not for me.

Not so sure about that. I've test driven several Abarths and 1 500. Ive spoke with my neighborhood service managers. Ive sought out owners of 2013 and later cars who dd like me (2k per month). Im not so sure.

Have you driven one? The media is not exactly enthralled with our cars. I'm constantly defending the Mighty Yaris to folks i know. I'm willing to put up with some increased maintenance in exchange for sex appeal. Yes...i could stripe mine and paint the mirrors. But the dash-i can't come up with an adequate solution. An Abarth ( Or even a lowly Pop) puts the sizzle where you can see it.

Drive the competition. Talk to owners who drive similarly. I'm not so sure i trust the media entirely.

I'm not endorsing a Fiat...but i am looking at one as a possibility in addition to others