New Yaris SE on Saturday

[BLKHILLSGUY]

Talked to the dealer on the other side of the state. Will be picking up a blue 2015 Yaris SE, manual of course, this coming Saturday morning. Will be trading my 13 Avalon Limited for the Yaris SE. Been waiting impatiently for some time on a Yaris. Had an 11 Yaris in Polar White and really miss the manual transmission. Thought I wanted a really nice car, which the Avalon is, but looking forward to the simplicity. The better half isn't extremely thrilled, but I'm driving it so that's all that matters.

[nookandcrannycar]

:thumbup: Congrats! :thumbup:. Will be interested to read how the clutch feels to you when compared to your previous Yaris.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

Hopefully, it's a huge improvement. I CONSTANTLY killed the Yaris while in 1st gear on the 2011, and that has never happened to me in any previous manuals I have driven. Looking at genuine sheepskin covers for it now. So many choices. Also looked at Wet Okole but have always enjoyed sheepskin. Had a 10 yr old gray set that I gave to my mom. Got them at Costco. Too bad Costco no longer sells them.

[nookandcrannycar]

Hopefully, it's a huge improvement. I CONSTANTLY killed the Yaris while in 1st gear on the 2011, and that has never happened to me in any previous manuals I have driven. Looking at genuine sheepskin covers for it now. So many choices. Also looked at Wet Okole but have always enjoyed sheepskin. Had a 10 yr old gray set that I gave to my mom. Got them at Costco. Too bad Costco no longer sells them.

I don't remember killing my '07, but I've definitely killed the engine re the clutch on my '14 a few times. I'm thinking '07-'14 = same clutch?...or that there have been two different types of clutches over that period? (can't remember which is correct). Either way, I have a feeling (from Kalispel's description) that the 2015 has a better clutch than any previous year. Kalispel compared the 2015 to previous Honda clutches (very interesting :thumbsup:), but you can compare the 2015 to experience with a previous Yaris clutch :thumbsup:.

:thumbsup: re sheepskins.....even if not dealing with a cold winter climate. I bought them for a car while I was living near the beach in Orange County, California (not known for cold winters :laugh:).

I use covers (not sheepskins) for my '14 because I don't like the two tone seats ('butterscotchish mixed with grayish' inserts = :barf:.....rest of the black on the seats = :thumbsup:) . Every 2015 SE I've seen up close.....:thumbsup:....same as Kalispel's SE.

[Kalispel]

Awesome!!! :headbang:

Hopefully you will like your 2015 S/E manual 5-Spd as much as I do. I like the blue, and thought it looked really sharp in the various YouTube reviews that I saw (the OEM alloy wheels look better with that than the white one). You will really stand out with that color, especially with the bold 2015 front styling I am just more of a drab white, gray, earth-tone type person. I would have been really tempted to purchase a "brown sugar metallic" Yaris if it had been offered in the USA like it was in Canada. That and white are my two personal favorite - but I was seriously considering a go at a gray or blue manual when I thought that a white one wasn't going to be obtainable.

I only stalled out once thus far since I started driving my Yaris, and it was the first time I had worn my Skecher boots while driving it (on the 2nd or 3rd day of having Yaris). My size 11W feet feel huge and numb in those boots and it is a bit harder to feel the nuances of the accelerator with them. It was tougher to drive my manual Accord with them on also, so it isn't a Yaris-specific issue. That was my one and only stall thus far on my Yaris, and I am even comfortable driving with the boots on, now that I have gotten the hang of the gas-pedal.

[bronsin]

Thought I wanted a really nice car, which the Avalon is, but looking forward to the simplicity. The better half isn't extremely thrilled, but I'm driving it so that's all that matters.

Think of all the $$$$ you saved! :clap:

You DID get a nice car and the BEST car! :headbang:

[nookandcrannycar]

You DID get a nice car and the BEST car! :headbang:

:laugh: +1

[Kalispel]

What extras and/or modifications do you plan for your Blue Streak Metallic SE?

I still have to get the windows tinted on mine, after I get my AZ license tag, and can then pull the temporary paper tag off the inside back window. I also have to purchase/install some alternative 16" wheels later this year or early next, and then try to sell the OEM ones. Not sure if I should do that before or after I build myself a new desktop gaming system. Decisions, decisions. :iono:

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[yarisugi]

You're trading the Avalon for the Yaris?
May I ask what the trade in value was?
Trading in Toyota's top tier model for the bottom tier model is a huge leap!

[Kalispel]

You're trading the Avalon for the Yaris?
May I ask what the trade in value was?
Trading in Toyota's top tier model for the bottom tier model is a huge leap!

I think his Avalon was leased, and at its end of term.

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[BLKHILLSGUY]

I think his Avalon was leased, and at its end of term.

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Yes it was. First, and last lease. I drive more than 12k miles a year, so not a benefit for me. The payment between the car payment and the lease was $40 bucks, so that wasn't the issue. I just had never had a really nice car with leather, heated front and rear seats, and in dash navigation. I didn't like the in dash navigation from day one. Too complicated to use. My Garmin was $100 and has lifetime free maps. And it sitting on the dash never bothered me. Will go back to that with the Yaris. And the biggest thing I didn't enjoy with the Avalon was the automatic transmission. It was so boring. I enjoy rowing through the gears. I thought I could overlook that with such a cushy car, but I couldn't. And my first car was a 91 Ford Festiva, and me and my dad used to work on that together. Always had a love for small, tiny cars. I'm sure the Corolla makes more sense, but it doesn't have the hatchback appeal that I miss so much. And I like the idea of downsizing. After I finish school and make a great salary, I just don't see myself forking that much money over again for a vehicle. It's just not in my nature. I tried it out, and now I know. Learning experience.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

What extras and/or modifications do you plan for your Blue Streak Metallic SE?

I still have to get the windows tinted on mine, after I get my AZ license tag, and can then pull the temporary paper tag off the inside back window. I also have to purchase/install some alternative 16" wheels later this year or early next, and then try to sell the OEM ones. Not sure if I should do that before or after I build myself a new desktop gaming system. Decisions, decisions. :iono:

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I want to keep it pretty simple. I want the v-vti applique that you have on your car, and the exhaust tip. Any idea or link where I can find those two items? Also will do tint, and good floor mats. And the sheepskin seat covers for the driver and passenger. That is all I have planned.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

Thought about XM since I've had it for years, but I found a great country station that does next to no commercials, and it plays the 70's-90s country that I grew up with. I haven't been using the XM much in the Avalon since I found that station. And I have Google Play with playlists set up. It has all the music you could ever want. And I still like my CD's. Grew up with them.

[Kalispel]

I want to keep it pretty simple. I want the v-vti applique that you have on your car, and the exhaust tip. Any idea or link where I can find those two items? Also will do tint, and good floor mats. And the sheepskin seat covers for the driver and passenger. That is all I have planned.

The OEM (Southeast Asia Toyota) VVT-i emblem/badge and aftermarket exhaust tip I found on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RA13HK2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CPAW2E?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00

Those two simple items really complete the SE exterior look, in my opinion. Low-key, but great for personality. :thumbsup:

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I also like these VVT-i / TRD badges, and might get one for my upper front passenger-side windshield instead of the tiny little vinyl die-cut TRD logo that I have there now.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009PFSOZO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1IDO71EUN1X9A

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064PSSOA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1IDO71EUN1X9A

I also bought this OEM lidded-cup for extra concealed storage (for my non-penny coins). It fits perfectly in one of the dual-front cup holders in front of gearbox. Great quality, but not as deep as I thought it would be.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0054SL9N0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

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[Kalispel]

Yes it was. First, and last lease. I drive more than 12k miles a year, so not a benefit for me. The payment between the car payment and the lease was $40 bucks, so that wasn't the issue. I just had never had a really nice car with leather, heated front and rear seats, and in dash navigation. I didn't like the in dash navigation from day one. Too complicated to use. My Garmin was $100 and has lifetime free maps. And it sitting on the dash never bothered me. Will go back to that with the Yaris. And the biggest thing I didn't enjoy with the Avalon was the automatic transmission. It was so boring. I enjoy rowing through the gears. I thought I could overlook that with such a cushy car, but I couldn't. And my first car was a 91 Ford Festiva, and me and my dad used to work on that together. Always had a love for small, tiny cars. I'm sure the Corolla makes more sense, but it doesn't have the hatchback appeal that I miss so much. And I like the idea of downsizing. After I finish school and make a great salary, I just don't see myself forking that much money over again for a vehicle. It's just not in my nature. I tried it out, and now I know. Learning experience.

Before I discovered the latest Yaris SE, I was planning on either buying a used 2010-2012 Yaris sedan (with automatic :eek: sadly enough) or a 2012-2015 first-generation Acura ILX 6-Spd Manual. I test drove the ILX that I wanted, but it was just too overloaded with unnecessary tech junk and gadgets for my taste (but it was a joy to drive - basically a superior Civic Si). I much prefer the simple interior elegance, and somewhat old-school feel of my Yaris SE, even if it isn't super plush and fancy on the inside. It has everything that I want in a car (minor detail quibbles aside), and definitely brings back the fonder memories of driving my 1986 CRX Si back in the day. :thumbup: Like you, something about certain smaller hatchbacks just does it for me.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

The OEM (Southeast Asia Toyota) VVT-i emblem/badge and aftermarket exhaust tip I found on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RA13HK2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CPAW2E?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00

Those two simple items really complete the SE exterior look, in my opinion. Low-key, but great for personality. :thumbsup:

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I also like these VVT-i / TRD badges, and might get one for my upper front passenger-side windshield instead of the tiny little vinyl die-cut TRD logo that I have there now.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009PFSOZO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1IDO71EUN1X9A

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064PSSOA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1IDO71EUN1X9A

I also bought this OEM lidded-cup for extra concealed storage (for my non-penny coins). It fits perfectly in one of the dual-front cup holders in front of gearbox. Great quality, but not as deep as I thought it would be.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0054SL9N0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

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Ordered the car emblem. And also ordered the ashtray. That will be good for my cash(Starbucks tips) and coins. I'm a little hesitant on the exhaust tip. Is it really easy to install? Some people said it tarnished after using it for awhile. That is the one thing I will definitely miss about the Avalon is the center console. I keep a ton of stuff in there. And the deep glove box. Going to have to minimize what I carry. No more months of lottery tickets in the car. Haha I usually give them to my mom to check, as I'm too lazy, and let her keep the $40-50 bucks that I usually win.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

And thanks again for the links!!! I have Amazon Prime, so that worked out perfectly!!!

[Kalispel]

Ordered the car emblem. And also ordered the ashtray. That will be good for my cash(Starbucks tips) and coins. I'm a little hesitant on the exhaust tip. Is it really easy to install? Some people said it tarnished after using it for awhile. That is the one thing I will definitely miss about the Avalon is the center console. I keep a ton of stuff in there. And the deep glove box. Going to have to minimize what I carry. No more months of lottery tickets in the car. Haha I usually give them to my mom to check, as I'm too lazy, and let her keep the $40-50 bucks that I usually win.

I had no trouble installing the tri-bolt exhaust tip - it just takes a socket wrench and a good enough eye to put it on straight (drain hole centered at bottom, and equal air spacing on all sides between 2.25" tip exit and actual 2.0" exhaust pipe exit). If you live in area with a lot of road salt, rain/snow, and such, rust and tarnish is a problem for just about anything metal - without diligent cleaning/polishing. I'm betting that some of those reviewers on Amazon didn't take proper care of their car, which you cannot do if you live in those type harsh environmental conditions.

I was also spoiled by the monster center-console & storage space in my 2000 accord w/Armrest. I've since learned to minimize cockpit junk, and just keep around what I really need. :biggrin:

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[BLKHILLSGUY]

I'm so damn mad. My Avalon has been slow to start the past 2 days. Tonight, it wouldn't start at all. Thought maybe I left a light on but the headlights and everything work perfectly. Finally got it started. Drove it for 20 miles and parked it for 2 hrs and attempted the resort. Again, didn't want to start. Have to hold in the auto start button. I'm pulling an all nighter. Heading to Eastern S Dakota in the morning to get the Yaris. About 350 miles. I think the damn starter is going out. Perfect time to unload this car for the incredibly dependable Yaris. Now the other half is happy as hell that I'm unloading the 13 Avalon. It can't come soon enough. And I have always hated the push button start. So unnecessary. Simpler is always better. Less to go wrong. Maybe I'm old and set in my ways. Will be 40 near the end of the year. First push button car. Hope to keep the Yaris for years to come and avoid that feature in the future. All the new cars seem to have it, even the cheap cars. Ugggggh.

[bronsin]

Auto transmissions, power windows, chipped keys, remote start, remote lock and unlock, push button start and syphilis. :middlefinger:

I have managed to avoid all but the first! :headbang:

[nookandcrannycar]

Now the other half is happy as hell that I'm unloading the 13 Avalon. It can't come soon enough.

:laugh: Well, at least there is that bright side to your unfortunate troubles this morning.

And I have always hated the push button start. So unnecessary. Simpler is always better. Less to go wrong.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[nookandcrannycar]

Auto transmissions, power windows, chipped keys, remote start, remote lock and unlock, push button start and syphilis. :middlefinger:

I have managed to avoid all but the first! :headbang:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Kalispel]

I'm so damn mad. My Avalon has been slow to start the past 2 days. Tonight, it wouldn't start at all. Thought maybe I left a light on but the headlights and everything work perfectly. Finally got it started. Drove it for 20 miles and parked it for 2 hrs and attempted the resort. Again, didn't want to start. Have to hold in the auto start button. I'm pulling an all nighter. Heading to Eastern S Dakota in the morning to get the Yaris. About 350 miles. I think the damn starter is going out. Perfect time to unload this car for the incredibly dependable Yaris. Now the other half is happy as hell that I'm unloading the 13 Avalon. It can't come soon enough. And I have always hated the push button start. So unnecessary. Simpler is always better. Less to go wrong. Maybe I'm old and set in my ways. Will be 40 near the end of the year. First push button car. Hope to keep the Yaris for years to come and avoid that feature in the future. All the new cars seem to have it, even the cheap cars. Ugggggh.

Did you manage to snag your blue streak metallic 2015 m/t Yaris SE this last weekend?

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[BLKHILLSGUY]

Did you manage to snag your blue streak metallic 2015 m/t Yaris SE this last weekend?

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I did. And I drove 400 miles back to my home with the car. Very pleased. Seats are incredibly comfortable. Everything feels incredible solid. Moved right along at 80 mph. It was like an old friend. The only thing that I need to get accustomed to is the lack of power. I drove the Avalon for quite awhile, and am used to the hitting the gas and moving quickly. Not so much with the Yaris. But I'll adjust fine.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

And a HUGE improvement over my 2011 Yaris. It feels much higher end. Higher quality interior. And I absolutely love the European designed looks of the car. The blue is great looking in person. A lot of compliments on the color.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

Only thing I'm not overly hot on is the low technology of the infotainment. It's incredibly basic.

[Kalispel]

Only thing I'm not overly hot on is the low technology of the infotainment. It's incredibly basic.

To be honest, I would have preferred a non-touchscreen radio system like what I saw was in the 2012 Yaris Sedan or 2012-2014 Hatchback - minus the CD player even.

My 2000 4cyln m/t Accord wasn't any more peppy than my new Yaris, since they had similar weight-to-horsepower ratios, so it wasn't the same "shock" to me as I am sure that it was to you when you made the switch. :laugh:

Did you like the clutch in the 2015 better than the 2011? I'm really liking it myself. Easygoing, smooth shifting across all five gears. :bow:

[nookandcrannycar]

I did. The only thing that I need to get accustomed to is the lack of power.

:laugh: As I started to read this sentence, I thought it was going to end in......lack of an in dash cup holder :biggrin:. While driving back from Florida in my '14, I kept reaching into empty air to put my coffee cups and diet soda cups down :laugh:. Thank goodness I never went as far as releasing a cup and have it drop and spill.

[Kalispel]

And a HUGE improvement over my 2011 Yaris. It feels much higher end. Higher quality interior. And I absolutely love the European designed looks of the car. The blue is great looking in person. A lot of compliments on the color.

Yeah, that blue streak metallic is a real :eyebulge: eye-catcher on the road. There is a 2009-2011 (I think) hatchback in that color around my area that just draws my eyes to it every time we pass each other on the road. I love my White SE, but it is certainly more low-key (at least color-wise) - especially here in sunstroke AZ, where at least half of the cars on the road seem to be white. :laugh:

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[Kalispel]

I did. And I drove 400 miles back to my home with the car. Very pleased. Seats are incredibly comfortable. Everything feels incredible solid. Moved right along at 80 mph. It was like an old friend. The only thing that I need to get accustomed to is the lack of power. I drove the Avalon for quite awhile, and am used to the hitting the gas and moving quickly. Not so much with the Yaris. But I'll adjust fine.

w00t! - You almost caught me in odometer mileage already. :clap:

I don't think that I've even driven over 70mph yet. :laugh: I'm only on the highway for a few miles every morning (and evening) when I zip down a few exits in the right-hand 'slow lane' at 60-65mph. Everywhere else, it's no more than 50mph. :tongue: Told you that I was a pokey driver. :smoking:

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[Kar98]

Only thing I'm not overly hot on is the low technology of the infotainment. It's incredibly basic.

What are you missing? For me, no GPS and no manual = no care. But that just might be Gulfstates Toyota.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

To be honest, I would have preferred a non-touchscreen radio system like what I saw was in the 2012 Yaris Sedan or 2012-2014 Hatchback - minus the CD player even.

My 2000 4cyln m/t Accord wasn't any more peppy than my new Yaris, since they had similar weight-to-horsepower ratios, so it wasn't the same "shock" to me as I am sure that it was to you when you made the switch. :laugh:

Did you like the clutch in the 2015 better than the 2011? I'm really liking it myself. Easygoing, smooth shifting across all five gears. :bow:

Am definitely enjoying the clutch. Huge improvement in my opinion. I'm getting used to the power ratio now too. And those orange lights at night aren't bad at all. I rather like them. Even the infotainment center is growing on me. I'm very happy.

[Kalispel]

Am definitely enjoying the clutch. Huge improvement in my opinion. I'm getting used to the power ratio now too. And those orange lights at night aren't bad at all. I rather like them. Even the infotainment center is growing on me. I'm very happy.

Good to hear! :thumbup:

I don't hate my orange dash/console lighting or anything - it's just not my first choice in dash/console color lighting, especially on the climate control and main power window knob.

Minor nitpicking aside, very happy 2015 SE owner here also! :thumbsup:

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[nookandcrannycar]

BLKHILLSGUY and Kalispel, were your SEs assembled in France or in Japan?

(I know all of the Ls and LEs for the 2015 Model Year for the U.S. and Canada are being assembled in France, but I seem to remember that someone posted that some or all of the SEs for the U.S. and Canada = assembled in Japan :iono:).

[Kalispel]

BLKHILLSGUY and Kalispel, were your SEs assembled in France or in Japan?

(I know all of the Ls and LEs for the 2015 Model Year for the U.S. and Canada are being assembled in France, but I seem to remember that someone posted that some or all of the SEs for the U.S. and Canada = assembled in Japan :iono:).

I'm pretty sure my door label said FRANCE. I will double check it after work.

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[BLKHILLSGUY]

I'm pretty sure my door label said FRANCE. I will double check it after work.

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It's definitely France. That's what my VIN and door label said.

[Kalispel]

It's definitely France. That's what my VIN and door label said.

:thumbsup: Yep.

[nookandcrannycar]

It's definitely France. That's what my VIN and door label said.

:thumbsup:

I wonder if Kalispel's SE is the same? His SE sat on the lot in Colorado as long as my non SE (but also manual) sat on the lot in Florida in 2014. We lovers of manual transmissions can sometimes be few and far between :laugh:.

[nookandcrannycar]

:thumbsup: Yep.

:laugh: I was in the middle of composing post #38 when you posted.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

Really enjoying the car. I don't like the pieces of piano black(shiny) plastic that they use in a few places. A pain in the butt to keep clean. I keep antibacterial wipes in my car at all times, and usually do a quick wipe, but it leaves a streaky mess. I'm very OCD with germs, hence the wipes. If I take money out at McDonald's for a coffee, I wipe my hands, steering wheel, manual shifter, and parking brake. Rarely ever sick either. And having a few issues with the Bluetooth. Sometimes the call goes through, and sometimes it doesn't. I need to unpair it and then pair it again. Funny, it rings to the other party, but I can't hear them and they can't hear me. Other than that, it's smooth sailing. Almost at 1600 miles. I drive a lot. I'm sure after the newness wears off I'll slow down. And now that college has restarted I'll also be driving less, and spending less money in Amazon haha

[Kalispel]

Really enjoying the car. I don't like the pieces of piano black(shiny) plastic that they use in a few places. A pain in the butt to keep clean. I keep antibacterial wipes in my car at all times, and usually do a quick wipe, but it leaves a streaky mess. I'm very OCD with germs, hence the wipes. If I take money out at McDonald's for a coffee, I wipe my hands, steering wheel, manual shifter, and parking brake. Rarely ever sick either. And having a few issues with the Bluetooth. Sometimes the call goes through, and sometimes it doesn't. I need to unpair it and then pair it again. Funny, it rings to the other party, but I can't hear them and they can't hear me. Other than that, it's smooth sailing. Almost at 1600 miles. I drive a lot. I'm sure after the newness wears off I'll slow down. And now that college has restarted I'll also be driving less, and spending less money in Amazon haha

Yeah, the interior piano-finish trim pieces were on my nit-pick dislike list also - though they did allow me to easily affix a small white TRD decal on the front of my gearbox. :biggrin:

I'm just hitting 1000 miles this week on my little Yaris. I average 230-250 miles/week total. So far, I am averaging 38.2 mpg - almost all regular city driving miles.

I haven't even tried my Bluetooth yet, as I don't even have a smartphone, lol. :rolleyes:

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[BLKHILLSGUY]

Yeah, the interior piano-finish trim pieces were on my nit-pick dislike list also - though they did allow me to easily affix a small white TRD decal on the front of my gearbox. :biggrin:

I'm just hitting 1000 miles this week on my little Yaris. I average 230-250 miles/week total. So far, I am averaging 38.2 mpg - almost all regular city driving miles.

I haven't even tried my Bluetooth yet, as I don't even have a smartphone, lol. :rolleyes:

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Averaging 34 mpg with ethanol. Just put a tank in without ethanol and I'm at 36+. I'll know more after this tank is emptied. Not a fan of ethanol.

[Kalispel]

Averaging 34 mpg with ethanol. Just put a tank in without ethanol and I'm at 36+. I'll know more after this tank is emptied. Not a fan of ethanol.

I can't even find non-ethanol gas in Phoenix, AZ. :mad: It's all rated at "up to 10% Ethanol". :mad:

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[nookandcrannycar]

I'm very OCD with germs, hence the wipes. If I take money out at McDonald's for a coffee, I wipe my hands, steering wheel, manual shifter, and parking brake. Rarely ever sick either.

:laugh: I'm pretty careful re germs, but I do ratchet up into OCD territory when I'm around someone who is sick. Yesterday, I bought 4 very small packages of the Frito Lay 'Munchies' peanuts at a convenience store. The clerk was sick, and coughed into his hands before ringing me up. He picked up one of the packages, scanned it, and then plopped it down on top of the others. When I got back to my Yaris, I wiped each little bag with a different wipe, put those little bags in a bag from a different store, and also wiped my mileage credit card with a different wipe (even though he never touched it) :laugh:. I also rarely get sick. I picked up the 'wipes in the car habit' from my cousin.

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[BLKHILLSGUY]

So with this Toyota care of 2 yrs or 25k miles, I understand that comes with free oil changes and rotations during that time. What I am curious about is Toyota only wants to change the oil every 10k miles. I understand that is the new requirement for their new cars/engines, but the Yaris engine is 10 yrs old. Are they supposed to change it every 5k or every 10k?

[BLKHILLSGUY]

And I forgot to ask, does our Yaris come with a cabin air filter. I've heard the answer was no quite awhile back, but that just doesn't seem normal.

[Kalispel]

So with this Toyota care of 2 yrs or 25k miles, I understand that comes with free oil changes and rotations during that time. What I am curious about is Toyota only wants to change the oil every 10k miles. I understand that is the new requirement for their new cars/engines, but the Yaris engine is 10 yrs old. Are they supposed to change it every 5k or every 10k?

My service manual and paperwork indicates every 5k miles for services, including the initial free 2 years.

[Kalispel]

And I forgot to ask, does our Yaris come with a cabin air filter. I've heard the answer was no quite awhile back, but that just doesn't seem normal.

My understanding is that every new Yaris post 2009 or 2010 has had the cabin filter installed.

[nookandcrannycar]

My understanding is that every new Yaris post 2009 or 2010 has had the cabin filter installed.

^^^^^ This. My '07 didn't have one until Hershey brought it up on a thread and I put one in :biggrin:...:redface:...:mad:...:laugh:. My '14 already had one in place when it was put on the lot at the dealership.

[nookandcrannycar]

So with this Toyota care of 2 yrs or 25k miles, I understand that comes with free oil changes and rotations during that time. What I am curious about is Toyota only wants to change the oil every 10k miles. I understand that is the new requirement for their new cars/engines, but the Yaris engine is 10 yrs old. Are they supposed to change it every 5k or every 10k?

I paid for two oil changes myself (in Texas) for my '14 before stopping (at between 10 and 11k miles?) at Ronnie Lott's (:thumbup: Go 49ers and Raiders :thumbup:) Tracy Toyota in Tracy, California for the 10k service. I was prepared to pay for this, but their service department educated me re the gratis every 5k service for the first 2 years or 25,000 miles. I took my '14 to Tracy Toyota for that service (counted as the 10k) and then for the 15k and for the 20k services. Great service. The only piece of wrong information they gave me was re a 'grace period'. They said, re the last free service, that the factory allows a grace period of 1,000 miles....so just make sure you bring it in for the last one before 26,000 miles. Upon my return to Texas, I took my '14 in for the 25k service at about 25,200 miles IIRC. I don't want to get the dealer in trouble with the factory....so I won't say which dealership :biggrin:.....but he said "we'll put down 24,999 miles on the paperwork". He said if the paperwork shows 25,000 miles or more, the factory won't pay the dealership for the service.

[attrapereves]

I don't understand why Toyota would design a cabin air filter holder, but not put a filter in there. Crazy.

BLKHILLSGUY, I love your state. I've been there tons of times and hope I can move there some day. I love the Rapid City and Deadwood/Lead areas. Sioux Falls is pretty cool too.

[nookandcrannycar]

I don't understand why Toyota would design a cabin air filter holder, but not put a filter in there. Crazy.

Known as being CHEAP :laugh::laugh::laugh:!!! I would imagine that they finally started putting in a filter at the factory in response to complaints.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

My service manual and paperwork indicates every 5k miles for services, including the initial free 2 years.

Yah, my manual does too, but when I had my 13 Avalon they said only once every 10k or I would have to pay for it. But I thought the Yaris maintenance might be different as the engine is 10 yrs old and Toyota just switched to every 10k a few years ago. The people at Toyota will tell me 10k, but if it's supposed to be every 5k, they are going to give me that free service. I'm not risking it. The guy at Toyota already said every 10k for the Yaris, but he didn't seem to be the brightest bulb.

[The Limo 2]

When I googled oil change intervals for Toyota engines, this is the answer I go back from Toyota.

Only Toyota vehicles in which 0W-20 synthetic oil is REQUIRED (except for the 2TR-FE AND 3UR-FBE Engines) have been approved for extended oil change intervals of 10,000 miles/12 months. (However, you should continue to check the oil level regularly and top up if needed. That will help your engine get the full benefit of synthetic oil.)

Vehicles in which 0w-20 synthetic is an option to 5w-20 mineral oil, (or 5w-30) will continue to require 5,000 mile/6 month oil change intervals, even if 0w-20 synthetic oil is used.

In the case of vehicles with 10,000 mile oil change intervals, the 5,000 mile service interval has not been eliminated. The traditional 5,000 mile maintenance procedures (such as tire rotation) will continue to be required, and the fluid levels (such as brake fluid) will need to be checked and adjusted as this time.

If the vehicle operation meets the standard criteria for "Special Operating Conditions" such as driving off-road, on dirt roads, towing a trailer, making repeated short trips under 32F, or extensive idling, the engine oil must be replaced at 5,000 mile intervals, regardless of what type of oil is used.
Roy

[attrapereves]

That's a little absurd. I generally change the oil and rotate tires in my Yaris every 7000mi with full synthetic and a good quality filter. Crappy filters can be a good reason to change oil every 5000mi.

When I had a 2006 Corolla, I got the Mobil 1 full syn tested by Blackstone labs at the 6500mi mark. They reported that the oil probably had another 4-5k miles left.

[The Limo 2]

And the dealer in Chilliwack (Toyota Canada) says I should change the oil and filter every 8,000 Km/6 months regardless of what Toyota USA says or whether I use synthetic or mineral oil in order to keep my warranty valid. Both my Toyotas (2007 Camry Hybrid and 2007 Yaris) are now out of warranty.
Roy

[nookandcrannycar]

BTW, Cargurus.com no longer allows searches over 500 miles away....have to enter a zip code and 500 miles is the 'widest' choice. Cars.com still has the 'any miles' option, which does a nationwide search. There are currently 6 new manual transmission 2015 SEs in the United States....one black, one grey, one red, one your color blue (in various states), plus two white ones in the Bay Area (San Francisco).