How's this for fitment!

[ern-diz]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAN_uo0p6pm/ :laugh:

[kimona]

Pitiful.

[NYC-SE]

I guess I'm just an old man but I just don't get the whole stretched tire, slammed suspension, cambered out wheel thing. To me it looks ridiculous, not to mention those kinds of set ups are less functional. I don't see the point.

[ern-diz]

I agree with both of you lol.

I lowered my car and have aftermarket wheels/tires, but it's in line with a factory aggressive look. I couldn't believe that pic when I came across it on Instagram.

[tadakun]

to be fair, it serves no functional reason. It's for looks. I'm not a fan of the set ups with pokey barrels like that picture but I can respect the fitment.

[MUSKOKA800]

Stupidity!

[yarisugi]

I admit it's crazy, but when owner is representing his crew and his work, I totally understand where he's coming from.

Instagram "chamorroboy86" and you'll understand, too.

[ern-diz]

I admit it's crazy, but when owner is representing his crew and his work, I totally understand where he's coming from.

Instagram "chamorroboy86" and you'll understand, too.

I get it, and don't think there is anything wrong with it for fun as a show piece for those that like the look. Can't imagine driving around on that daily, though.

[ern-diz]

Also, I guess for me personally, I look at it as timeless, classic looks vs current fads/trends.

I think of this camber era we're in right now along the same lines as the '90 Nissan Sentra's with the wheels sticking out way past the fenders, or the custom choppers with the super fat wheel on the back. It might just be me, but I feel like these are trends that come and go while timeless looks tend to live on.

I guess all fads live on as niche segments, but almost anyone, no matter what their preferred car culture is, can appreciate a '68 Charger on some well fitted wheels and rubber. A '64 Chevy with candy paint. Lambo's and Ferrari's in their stock state. I might be completely off base, but I think the camber scene eventually goes the way of the fat rear wheel choppers.

Not trying to offend anyone, not saying one is better than another and not even saying I hate any of it, but for me it's worth appreciating as a moment in car culture time, and that's about it.

Shit, then again, what do I know.

[tadakun]

Also, I guess for me personally, I look at it as timeless, classic looks vs current fads/trends.

I think of this camber era we're in right now along the same lines as the '90 Nissan Sentra's with the wheels sticking out way past the fenders, or the custom choppers with the super fat wheel on the back. It might just be me, but I feel like these are trends that come and go while timeless looks tend to live on.

I guess all fads live on as niche segments, but almost anyone, no matter what their preferred car culture is, can appreciate a '68 Charger on some well fitted wheels and rubber. A '64 Chevy with candy paint. Lambo's and Ferrari's in their stock state. I might be completely off base, but I think the camber scene eventually goes the way of the fat rear wheel choppers.

Not trying to offend anyone, not saying one is better than another and not even saying I hate any of it, but for me it's worth appreciating as a moment in car culture time, and that's about it.

Shit, then again, what do I know.

But let us think about this. Is it truly a "fad"? Fads tend to only last a season...maybe a year? tire stretching has been around since at least 2004, first time I ever saw it was on a friends rhd conversion 240sx.

VIP was always known for the extreme camber look. I remember browsing Junction Produce's website back around the same time..I think.:confused::laugh:

anyway my argument is that it's not really a fad, it just isn't as underground as it was in the past.

btw thank you for not going full out "hellaflush fitment shit sucks" route. respect :drinking:

[ern-diz]

But let us think about this. Is it truly a "fad"? Fads tend to only last a season...maybe a year? tire stretching has been around since at least 2004, first time I ever saw it was on a friends rhd conversion 240sx.

VIP was always known for the extreme camber look. I remember browsing Junction Produce's website back around the same time..I think.:confused::laugh:

anyway my argument is that it's not really a fad, it just isn't as underground as it was in the past.

btw thank you for not going full out "hellaflush fitment shit sucks" route. respect :drinking:

No doubt, there's room for all of it and to each his own. :thumbsup:

You also make some interesting points about the timeline of this look.

I just wonder if 30 yrs from now there'll be a kid with a poster of a '98 Lexus cambered out on his bedroom wall.

Quite possibly a better chance of that than a poster of my Yaris, though, eh! :biggrin:

[nortonfb]

Tire stretching was around long ago.
I was a little kid in the 50's and the sand buggies would do that. Those sand vehicles
were 30's, 40's vintage.

[ern-diz]

Tire stretching was around long ago.
I was a little kid in the 50's and the sand buggies would do that. Those sand vehicles
were 30's, 40's vintage.

Fair to say there's a significant difference between stretching tire on a sand buggie and stretching/cambering way out like the pic in that Instagram link, no?

[tadakun]

No doubt, there's room for all of it and to each his own. :thumbsup:

You also make some interesting points about the timeline of this look.

I just wonder if 30 yrs from now there'll be a kid with a poster of a '98 Lexus cambered out on his bedroom wall.

Quite possibly a better chance of that than a poster of my Yaris, though, eh! :biggrin:

hahah I was going to make a point that the majority of car people look at our little cars and say "why? why would you waste your money on a little car"

the kei scene gets grief just like the fitment scene.:laugh:

[ABSPLASTIC]

Probably parks like 3 feet away from curbs and wheels are worth more than the car itself.

[nortonfb]

Just sayin' strechin isn't new.

[invader166]

Do I think it's functional? No. Do I think it's practical? No. Do I think it looks "cool"? Not really.

That being said, I still respect the scene because to me, it takes time, dedication and know-how to pull it off properly.

[Rigaud]

Well I'm happy that here it's illegal and they get towed off the road if the tir/rim are not withing specs.

[ern-diz]

Just sayin' strechin isn't new.

Gotcha :thumbsup:

Do I think it's functional? No. Do I think it's practical? No. Do I think it looks "cool"? Not really.

That being said, I still respect the scene because to me, it takes time, dedication and know-how to pull it off properly.

That makes sense.

Well I'm happy that here it's illegal and they get towed off the road if the tir/rim are not withing specs.

On one side I can see how if it's dangerous, they would do that for the benefit of others, but as a freedom lover part of me cringes anytime I hear government making things illegal.

[tmontague]

how to kill any sign of a car culture? Go w/ Quebec's laws.

Geeze you guys have it rough w/ your window tint laws, exhaust laws, wheel/tire laws...and now wood burning stove laws in Montreal lol, it's getting a liiiitle extreme.

I'm not a fan of the stretched tire look (although I love the look of closing a huge wheel gap and having the tires flush with the body with a very mild camber) but like Invader stated above, I can appreciate the time and effort someone puts into something on their own for something that they enjoy.

A handful of people would criticize me for modding my Yaris. To me it has been invaluable in teaching me how to work on cars and makes me smile every time I drive it.

To each their own and I have to give kudos to people when it's deserved

[Rigaud]

I agree with it and pretty much in every province it is illegal when your tires don't match rim specs. It's just ignored and or tolerated. The real problem is when theirs too many stupid people who ruin it for others for anything in life. Usually the main reason laws and regulations are created. Abuse and someone will regulate.

On that note..............yes Quebec has become a bunch of Ass Hats!!! Their following France as a model to regulate everything to the "T" in this province, little by little. It's my birth place but I am 9km from Ontario and looking into selling everything to move out.

[tadakun]

Man i'm stupid happy that I don't live in Quebec now.

[tmontague]

I agree with it and pretty much in every province it is illegal when your tires don't match rim specs. It's just ignored and or tolerated. The real problem is when theirs too many stupid people who ruin it for others for anything in life. Usually the main reason laws and regulations are created. Abuse and someone will regulate.

I agree that certain laws have their reason because like you said, too many people lack the common sense and always have to ruin it for good people.

However, there are times where it makes no sense to enforce a certain law and it is better off ignored (like what they typically do in Ontario with most car laws regarding aftrermarket parts). If I drove like an ass on city streets and I get pulled over, I'd probably have a handful of tickets for aftermarket parts as well as the speeding ticket. But If I drive with some common sense then I get left alone with no problems.

In the end the fact that it's a Yaris and still looks somewhat "factory" keeps any cop from really caring. Lets be honest, no one is breaking any land speed records in a Yaris.....o wait, ya they are:thumbsup:

[ern-diz]

...Lets be honest, no one is breaking any land speed records in a Yaris.....o wait, ya they are:thumbsup:

Ha

[WeeYari]

I'm willing to bet MUSKOKA800 is wishing Ontario had Quebec's winter tire law right about now.

[lormagni]

how to kill any sign of a car culture? Go w/ Quebec's laws.

Geeze you guys have it rough w/ your window tint laws, exhaust laws, wheel/tire laws...and now wood burning stove laws in Montreal lol, it's getting a liiiitle extreme.



Believe me, in Italy the situation is similar or even worse!
The only things allowed are: brakes upgrade, body kits (only if they respect some size limits), springs (only if they lower the car not too much) and aftermarket wheels (but in most of cases you should stay with the OEM size).
The other things such as wheel spacers, coilovers, different size wheels, full exhaust systems, engine upgrades, cold air intakes are not allowed. If the police catches you with some of these upgrades you'll get a fine of 400 euros and you won't be able to use your car until you remove the illegal parts and carry your car to the the Department of Motor Vehicles to be inspected.
As you were saying before this is the best way to kill car culture, so stupid!

[invader166]

Believe me, in Italy the situation is similar or even worse!
The only things allowed are: brakes upgrade, body kits (only if they respect some size limits), springs (only if they lower the car not too much) and aftermarket wheels (but in most of cases you should stay with the OEM size).
The other things such as wheel spacers, coilovers, different size wheels, full exhaust systems, engine upgrades, cold air intakes are not allowed. If the police catches you with some of these upgrades you'll get a fine of 400 euros and you won't be able to use your car until you remove the illegal parts and carry your car to the the Department of Motor Vehicles to be inspected.
As you were saying before this is the best way to kill car culture, so stupid!

What I don't understand is why they even allow you to purchase them in the first place if they're illegal to use. It's ultimatly you, the end user, who suffers because of this.

It's a real shame too, because sometimes aftermarket parts actually exceed OEM specs.

[ern-diz]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBd62xlJ6s-/ :laugh:

[nortonfb]

Should have been a knobby.

[tadakun]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBd62xlJ6s-/ :laugh:

that's really funny. haha.

[invader166]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBd62xlJ6s-/ :laugh:

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/6b/6b1cc1e094d25ec2bf90a2352bae038f9a6710c155d69b16b4 00b8f14e31000e.jpg

[ern-diz]

:biggrin:

[ern-diz]

This just might take the entire cake.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMHp2H8AKr5/