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alnen
04-26-2016, 12:57 AM
Hey guys, I looked around but all the links I could find related to this were broken...

Just wondering what the final word is on viscosity in the southeast us and mileage intervals for average driving using synthetic oil. Also is there a specific oil and filter that works best for these cars?

I don't have a manual and get conflicting info from Google especially with tsbs thrown in the mix... thanks!

tmontague
04-26-2016, 08:36 AM
You can easily go at least 10,000km on any synthetic oil. I go 13,000km on mobil 1 0w30 but that is based on getting a used oil analysis done. I drive pretty hard each week and live in an area with temperature extremes and some traffic.

I'd stick with 5w30, the 1nz likes that. As for the filter, go with any reputable company (Purolator, K&N, Mann, etc) they will all be fine.

WeeYari
04-26-2016, 08:42 AM
You can easily go at leak

Do not mention leak in an oil thread!


I'd stick with 5w30, the 1nz likes that. As for the filter, go with any reputable company (Purolator, K&N, Mann, etc) they will all be fine.

QFT. No need to overthink your situation.

bronsin
04-26-2016, 09:51 AM
I suggest reading your owners manual for this and a lot of other useful and need to know information!

tmontague
04-26-2016, 10:26 AM
Do not mention leak in an oil thread!

Edited!:biggrin:

WeeYari
04-26-2016, 10:30 AM
I suggest reading your owners manual for this and a lot of other useful and need to know information!

I don't have a manual
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bronsin
04-26-2016, 11:57 AM
Oops!

:redface:

cparker
04-26-2016, 01:59 PM
For those who don't have a maintenance schedule check out https://www.driverside.com

kimona
04-26-2016, 04:50 PM
Went to the Toyota dealer and changed the oil in my Camry last week and my Yaris just this morning. Full synthetic 0-20 in both cars. I'm in Southern California where it gets quite hot and the traffic is terrible.

alnen
04-26-2016, 09:51 PM
I suggest reading your owners manual for this and a lot of other useful and need to know information!

Didn't come with an owners manual at the dealer I bought it from.

alnen
04-26-2016, 09:59 PM
You can easily go at least 10,000km on any synthetic oil. I go 13,000km on mobil 1 0w30 but that is based on getting a used oil analysis done. I drive pretty hard each week and live in an area with temperature extremes and some traffic.

I'd stick with 5w30, the 1nz likes that. As for the filter, go with any reputable company (Purolator, K&N, Mann, etc) they will all be fine.

Thanks, will do!

Exiwolfman
04-26-2016, 11:32 PM
Went to the Toyota dealer and changed the oil in my Camry last week and my Yaris just this morning. Full synthetic 0-20 in both cars. I'm in Southern California where it gets quite hot and the traffic is terrible.
So why run thinner oil if your in hot climate? Hotter the climate thicker the oil one should use.
On my Yaris I stay with 5w30 syn all yr round on our Juke that has a turbo I go to 5w40 for summer weather and w30 winter.
I find 0w20 is like water and the only reason Toyota uses is cos it saves on fuel economy but not your engine in the long run....just saying.

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mimelio
04-27-2016, 12:04 AM
I use Mobil 1 5W-30 and use a Wix Filter or NAPA Gold Clone

Rigaud
04-27-2016, 07:13 AM
So why run thinner oil if your in hot climate? Hotter the climate thicker the oil one should use.
On my Yaris I stay with 5w30 syn all yr round on our Juke that has a turbo I go to 5w40 for summer weather and w30 winter.
I find 0w20 is like water and the only reason Toyota uses is cos it saves on fuel economy but not your engine in the long run....just saying.

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alnen
04-30-2016, 02:00 PM
FYI, I ended up using Castrol edge full synthetic 5w30 and a Purolator boss filter. They were on sale, so that's what I went with.

B.B._07
05-04-2016, 09:16 PM
You can see the full owners manual on toyota.com or more specifically http://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/document/om-s/OM52A16U/pdf/OM52A16U.pdf

Toyota calls for 5W30 so just stick with that in the future. Also IMHO using synthetic oil is a generally a waste of money unless you're using the car in extreme operating conditions like -40 winter conditions, 100% city stop and go driving, very long service intervals or racing.

Tapokata
05-18-2016, 07:51 PM
5w-30 Amsoil full synthetic since the first 5K change. Followed the 5K mile interval and viscosity per the owner's manual, until it was out of warranty, and have been running 15K mile intervals since, using an Amsoil EA filter at each change. Almost 160K miles on my 09 here in Northern California, no leaks nor consumption, and highway fuel economy has held steady at about 36 MPG.

I put 16K miles on it in the first 18 months, nearly all of that in stop-and-go city traffic. Ran it for five years nearly all highway mileage when my commute changed- averaged 29K miles per year, with a high of 46K miles in one year. Lately back to short trip/city driving and fewer miles (commute to work changed again, and now let Amtrak do the driving). In any case, 5W30 synthetic in all temps and for all types of driving, most of that at long interval change outs. The 1NZ-FE is another Toyota workhorse. I'm hoping it will equal my 93 pickup and it's 22R-E with 370K miles on the block.

fnkngrv
05-20-2016, 01:12 AM
You can see the full owners manual on toyota.com or more specifically http://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/document/om-s/OM52A16U/pdf/OM52A16U.pdf

Toyota calls for 5W30 so just stick with that in the future. Also IMHO using synthetic oil is a generally a waste of money unless you're using the car in extreme operating conditions like -40 winter conditions, 100% city stop and go driving, very long service intervals or racing.
Toyota released a TSB a couple years ago to move to 20 weight so that is what many have done.

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bairjo
05-20-2016, 02:18 AM
Mobil1 filter...and whatever the people that built the car recommend for oil...more critical under warranty. Yea you can go well beyond the scheduled oil changes with the super duper stuff....but you will void the warranty.

fnkngrv
05-20-2016, 02:23 AM
Mobil1 filter...and whatever the people that built the car recommend for oil...more critical under warranty. Yea you can go well beyond the scheduled oil changes with the super duper stuff....but you will void the warranty.
That is actually false. No manufacturer to this day has had the stones to attempt to publicly say that. If they do they will be in court the next day. As long as the lubricants meet SAE certification requirements then it cannot void a warranty. It would have to be explicitly proven that the lubricant was the cause of failure without a shadow of a doubt.

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bairjo
05-22-2016, 03:43 AM
That is actually false. No manufacturer to this day has had the stones to attempt to publicly say that. If they do they will be in court the next day. As long as the lubricants meet SAE certification requirements then it cannot void a warranty. It would have to be explicitly proven that the lubricant was the cause of failure without a shadow of a doubt.

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Pretty bold statement and legal advice regarding warranty contracts. My particular warranty has nothing to do with the manufacturer. It is through an independent company that the dealer arranged. I'll stick with what is specified for my car.....it's not going to break my bank account.

B.B._07
05-27-2016, 03:00 AM
Toyota released a TSB a couple years ago to move to 20 weight so that is what many have done.

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Looking at the owners manual even for the latest 2016 it's still indicating 5W30.

http://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/document/om-s/OM52G61U/pdf/OM52G61U.pdf

(see page 310)

I don't doubt that Toyota is moving to 20 weight as the industry trend has been to 5W20, and now 0W20 motor oils. But I don't think the TSB applies to the 1NZ-FE engine which is one of the oldest designed engines you can buy in a current Toyota and is in the process of being replaced by the NR engine family.

bronsin
05-27-2016, 05:54 AM
Looking at the owners manual even for the latest 2016 it's still indicating 5W30.

http://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/document/om-s/OM52G61U/pdf/OM52G61U.pdf

(see page 310)

I don't doubt that Toyota is moving to 20 weight as the industry trend has been to 5W20, and now 0W20 motor oils. But I don't think the TSB applies to the 1NZ-FE engine which is one of the oldest designed engines you can buy in a current Toyota and is in the process of being replaced by the NR engine family.

Tell us more about this NR engine. Whats it used in? And we need your sources!

alanwagen
05-27-2016, 06:52 AM
Wiki had some interesting info on the NR engine, it looks good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_NR_engine

http://toyota-club.net/files/faq/13-01-01_faq_nr-engine_eng.htm

B.B._07
05-27-2016, 05:15 PM
Tell us more about this NR engine. Whats it used in? And we need your sources!

Like alanwagen posted I used wikipedia and club-toyota.net. There's also a really good summary of the various Toyota engine families since the 80's/90's on club-toyota.net.

http://toyota-club.net/files/faq/03-08-16_engine_eng.htm

bronsin
05-28-2016, 06:26 AM
Hmm I was hoping for a 500cc blown engine of ~75 hp a la the Ford 1 liter eco boost.

chai
06-04-2016, 01:03 PM
I've run nothing but 5w30 Pennzoil Platinum synthetic + Toyota OEM filters in mine for 7 years, at ~6000 mile OCIs.

Worked great in cold Wisconsin winters and works fine in hot Texas summers.

kimona
06-04-2016, 01:54 PM
Toyota released a TSB a couple years ago to move to 20 weight so that is what many have done.



Yes, I checked with the local Toyota dealers here in Southern California... and all of them are using 0-20.