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brushforhire
05-19-2016, 02:49 PM
Okay so along with my engine swap, I also upgraded my front brakes.

[Picture coming]

Edit: You will not be able to use anything smaller than a 15" rim if you do this!! Still gotta check to see if the 15" steel rim will clear. I am thinking it should.

I first saw this done in Enviri's thread. I figured I would make an official post about this so newcomers can see a quick good options for upgrades, for cheap.

Our cars don't need a ton of braking power, but a little more will never hurt.
Big brake kits are $$$$ and can be counterproductive for our cars. We really don't want a lot more rotational weight. It can be tough to fit wheels. Cost.

Using the Yaris SE front rotors and calipers from a xD/Corolla are perfect upgrade.

It takes us from 255mm to 275mm.

A bit more surface area to grab, and slightly bigger rotor and caliper also really fills out the wheel nicely.

Pics courtesy of Enviri:
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So here is the parts list:
Yaris SE front rotors: 43512-52130 x2 (I used OEM, I don't think I found A/M of these)
Corolla/xD Caliper RH: 47730-12A10 (I used cardone 19-B3435)
Corolla/xD Caliper LH: 47750-12A10 (I used cardone 19-B3434)
Pads: 04465-02220 (xD number, corolla use a different pn I believe, but will work also. I used Magneti Marelli from my work. They are $76.00 and come with all the hardware. Work awesome, too.)
Enviri used Hawk pads (HB627 Z.690 - made for Scion xB/xD & 09+ Toyota Corolla / Matrix / Rav4)
Brake fluid.

So if you shop right you can probably do this for around $500. I waited until I really needed brake to help justify the costs, since I was gonna buy pads and rotors anyways.

That is it as far as base needs.

Here are parts I recommend to get the most out of this. (Really not a bad idea, for longevity and if you vehicle has lots of miles.)

Stainless steel braided lines. I bought mine from Microimage. A good idea if your vehicle has a lot of miles. I live in PA so the winters are rough here to. Replacing the old rubber lines is never a bad idea. Fronts for about $60. Full set for about $120. I did the rears at the same times since I was already making a mess.
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The other thing I would recommend would be some good caliper paint. I used G2 system, from Tirerack. It is a two part epoxy paint, and it is fantastic. Much easier to do now, before everything is installed. About $40 shipped. Worth the looks and protection, IMHO.

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Please excuse my messiness. I also coated the rotor hats, and edges.
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So here comes the best part. These bolt right on.

Tool list:
Rachet and sockets.
Sockets: [double checking sizes]
Wrench: 8mm for the bleeders
Breaker bar will be useful
Possibly a 1/2" impact to loosen the caliper bolts
Towels
Catch container for brake fluids

Just take off your old calipers, pads, rotors and put these on.

Whether you just replace front calipers, or do braided lines the whole way around, you will need to bleed the brakes.

If you just did calipers, then start with the passenger side when you bleed them
If you did lines the whole way around start with the passenger rear, then the drivers rear, passenger front, and finally the drivers front. I went around again just for good measure.

How to bleed brakes:

You will need another person to help with this. You will have the person in the car pump the brake pedal up and hold it while you crack open the bleeder. Once fluid slows down coming out, then you close the bleeder. Repeat this until the fluid comes out without bubbles, before moving onto the next bleeder.

My bleeders were 8mm. I recommend a wrench here for ease of quick opening and closing.

Weight comparison courtesy of Enviri:

Yaris rotor 8lbs
Yaris SE rotor 10lbs
Yaris caliper 13lbs
Corolla caliper 15lbs

So for rotating mass there's a 4lbs increase and in overall car weight its 8lbs

[more updates and pictures coming]

CrankyOldMan
05-19-2016, 06:27 PM
Well, now I've got more things to take off of the Corolla when I go 2ZR-swap shopping...

fnkngrv
05-20-2016, 01:08 AM
Great that you shared this. I am thinking this will be a worthy upgrade with the new speeds I should be hitting. It will be critical with the shorter shutdowns at the Texas/Arkansas/Colorado Mile venues, etc.

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NJP440
05-20-2016, 08:47 PM
Very useful info! I shall invest in this once my turbo install is complete.

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rabbito
05-21-2016, 06:22 AM
great info yo

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KTS
05-21-2016, 12:19 PM
Great info and a nice upgrade.

From the picture comparison this upgrade for the yaris seems like it's the stock brakes on my JDM 2007 Vitz RS. I could be wrong thou.

brushforhire
05-21-2016, 01:47 PM
It is possible that it is the same, since it does use the Yaris SE front rotors. I would imagine that the Vitz RS probably uses the same rotors. I would be curious about your brake pad size.

KTS
05-21-2016, 02:44 PM
The Vitz RS pad is about 4-5 mm taller than the yaris pads.

brushforhire
05-21-2016, 08:51 PM
Thank you for this!

Here are dimensions of the Hawk pads for the xD

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Here are dimensions for the Yaris hawk pads.

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tmontague
05-24-2016, 10:18 AM
Quick Q: are 15" the smallest diameter rim you can fit with this brake upgrade? Or will 14" still fit?

Bluevitz-rs
05-24-2016, 10:33 AM
Quick Q: are 15" the smallest diameter rim you can fit with this brake upgrade? Or will 14" still fit?

If 14s just fit over the stock brakes, then 15s are probably the smallest that'll fit over the bigger brakes.

enviri
05-24-2016, 12:23 PM
15" will be the smallest you'll fit over the bigger brakes.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/Vitz%20Brake%20Upgrade/IMG_1235.jpg

enviri
10-05-2016, 01:46 PM
just a FYI: tire rack currently (as of oct 5 2016) has a special on hawk performance pads for this BBK for $40 off regular price.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp?make=Hawk&model=Performance+Ceramic+Pads&group=Performance+Ceramic+Pads&partNum=HB627Z690&autoMake=Scion&autoModel=xD&autoYear=2010&autoModClar=

tmontague
10-19-2016, 06:20 PM
Don't want to revivie an old thread, but figured I'd rather keep the facts for this on this thread.

What year Yaris SE are the oem rotors from?

I'm due for new rotors and pads next summer and figured if I can get everything off of rock auto it'd be worth it and cheaper than what the OP quoted.

I found Yaris SE (2012) A/M rotors for just over $20 each but I can't find a proper part# nor a dimension shoing if it is 275mm OD or not

Yargh-Is
10-24-2016, 10:53 PM
Hello Yaris enthusiasts, anyone happen to know if the Yaris SE rotors (275mm) come slotted and drilled? I cannot seem to find them using the Yaris SE pn: 43512-52130.

Appreciate the help!

enviri
10-25-2016, 05:46 PM
all yaris SE is 275 front. MUST BE FROM SE model only.

43512-52130 is not drilled or slotted.

JessMess
11-14-2016, 07:38 PM
"Using the Yaris SE front rotors and calipers from a xD/Corolla are perfect upgrade."


What years for the Yaris SE? And what years for the Xd and Carolla?

I work at a Junkyard and we can only look up cars by the year and not a part number

enviri
11-14-2016, 09:47 PM
Scion XD/09 Corolla/Matrix Calipers USED: ~100$ off ebay; ~165$ on rock auto (semi-loaded caliper)
(toyo part# 47730‑12A10|47731‑12A10
06/2007-06/2014 SCION XD ZSP110
12/2007-07/2013 TOYOTA COROLLA ZRE142

2012+ Yaris SE rotors (toyota part# 43512-52130): ~105$ ea (msrp)

chuckiek1
12-31-2016, 02:01 PM
Thought this should be included here:

Caliper: 25 lb-ft, or 34 Nm
Caliper bracket: 79 lb-ft, or 107 Nm
Tyre lugs: 76 lb-ft, or 103 Nm

Runethecursed
04-28-2018, 01:13 PM
Bump from the Graveyard but for any of you lurkers, You'd want to get the brake caliper from a 0-14 Scion XD OR 9-13 Corolla LE,STD model

If you are like me and hit up junkyards more often than you call your mum... itll be useful info

CrankyOldMan
10-22-2018, 04:01 PM
Just finished installing this setup on my car. It's actually the stuff in the pictures--bought them off Brushforhire after he totaled his. Install is super simple, barring any problems with stuck/rusted bolts. Still have to bleed the lines and refresh the brake fluid, but really looking forward to these!

Runethecursed
10-23-2018, 02:38 AM
Tell me how they feel, I put the bigger calipers on and while my booster might have been failing I hated the mooshy feel.

firebird1999us
03-28-2019, 01:42 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread - but will this work on a 2009 Yaris hatch with 15" wheels? I started compiling the parts and several OEM parts sites listed the rotors as fitting 2012 and on Yaris. I'm assuming they will but just need confirmation! My brakes are shot and I was considering this option vs slotted stoptech rotors from tire rack...

CrankyOldMan
03-28-2019, 03:27 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread - but will this work on a 2009 Yaris hatch with 15" wheels?

Shouldn't be a problem. I run Mini Cooper 15" alloys and they just clear.

CrankyOldMan
03-28-2019, 03:29 PM
Tell me how they feel, I put the bigger calipers on and while my booster might have been failing I hated the mooshy feel.

Looks like I missed the notification on this one. I've probably got some air in the hydraulics still, they didn't really firm up even after bleeding them twice. It's currently down for a slipping clutch, hopefully not related.

tmontague
03-28-2019, 03:36 PM
I have a feeling the mushy feeling has to do with runnigmarger calipers without upgrading the rest of the system. The pedal feel would be very sensitive to changes in fluid volume and likely leading to more pedal throw being needed (read: mushy feeling)

They tried something like this on the micra cup cars in the rear and found it threw everything off if the rest of the system wasn't properly matched

CrankyOldMan
06-25-2019, 12:13 PM
Posting an update for posterity!

I ran some OEM-grade pads with these on the road and they were acceptable. Tried them at the track and the pads were unable to deal with the heat. Changed over to Hawk HPS pads (HB627F.690), bled the lines and bedded in the pads. Phenomenal difference in stopping power and braking confidence! The pedal still has a lot of travel before it starts to engage but that may be related to the difference in brake boosters between the xD and the Yaris.

v114
06-02-2020, 08:46 PM
Made the upgrade today, french version (original calipers are a bit different) with parts with the oem reported by OP, no problems at all installing the parts
60€ subaru trezia calipers
70€ brembo coated rotors
40€ ferodo ecofriction pads
15€ paint

No spongy feeling, no slack on the pedal, nice extra stopping power

Thank you very much for this post!:headbang:

jng
12-11-2020, 07:28 AM
Came across this thread and went for it!

And so... I managed to fit the calipers of Gen 11 Corolla (We call it the 2014 Altis in Asia) into my Yaris Sedan (Vios NCP93). Paired it up with a 4x100 275mm slotted rotor meant for Vios NCP93 "G" Model.

NvrDwn
01-19-2021, 09:38 PM
After upgrading my pads with hps 5.0 and new stop tech plain rotors and running multiple 80+ to 25 mph consecutively, I can't understand why you would want more unless you track it.

Flipper_1938
07-30-2021, 03:03 PM
Add another one to list doing this upgrade.

I found the corolla calipers at pull-a-part. I ordered the SE rotors and Hawk pads from Amazon.....

enviri
08-01-2021, 07:39 PM
brings a tear to my eye...

Flipper_1938
08-02-2021, 01:41 PM
Very happy with the results. ...and yes, 15 steelies will fit.

DevilzMafia
08-25-2021, 03:26 PM
Very happy with the results. ...and yes, 15 steelies will fit.

Thanks, was just gonna ask that.

Wondering if anyone tried the Yaris 2012 Calipers?

Rundstedt
10-04-2021, 11:10 AM
Hi guys!
I also want to upgrade front brakes on my Yaris 3rd gen 1.33, 2012 production year.
1st post of @brushforhire is great!
Sadly I can't find calipers with mounting brackets (or if I find one, I'm not really sure whether it is the correct part).
Does anyone have the part number for it?

Also, do I need to upgrade my heat shield? From what I measured larger rotors should easily fit, but maybe some does have a different experience.

Calrenman
04-07-2022, 08:07 AM
Great educational thread...BUMP!

Twigster
10-30-2026, 12:28 PM
Question; Has anyone used the actual Yaris SE Calipers vs the xD/corolla calipers?

 Yaris SE Right : 47730-52211
 Left : 47750-52211
Piston Size: Matches the smaller stock Yaris non-SE piston size.

The scion xD/Corolla uses a bigger piston size and would give a longer petal travel and may change front and rear balance? ��*♂️

enviri
11-01-2026, 05:21 PM
i swapped from matrix calipers to yaris SE calipers recently. i lost ALOT of initial brake power. the pedal feel didnt feel much different.

i changed it out cause the SE calipers were on super clearance on rockauto (17USD!!) and my old calipers were sticking and old.