PLEASE DO YOUR OIL CHANGES

[froger]

A customer came in complaining of his engine burning oil,their was only 60,000 km (about 37000 miles)on his Toyota. Every thing looked fine in tell I looked at the dip stick coated in black,open the valve cover wow what a surprise.
NOT ONCE DID HE CHANGE HIS OIL.!

[Kalispel]

They must make something better than they used to. My brother-in-law was so clueless back in the late 80's that he didn't know he was supposed to change the oil in a car and burnt out the engine in his new, red, loaded Trans-Am somewhere around 13-15k miles. :clap:

[ern-diz]

Wow

[brushforhire]

We had a customer once who came in with his new Rav4, with about 38,000 miles on it, not running. They put it in the air and tried to drain the oil and nothing came out. So they dropped the oil pan. They had to scoop the oil out, because it had become a super thick pudding. We put it in a cut off gal jug and stood pencil up in it. The pencil stood up for about 6 months. The customer insisted that he changed the oil a couple times. It still had the oil filter with the orange o-ring on it. LoL. Denied warranty.

Once had a doctor who swore he'd never buy another Toyota after is Celica engine blew up. He we about 70,000 miles without changing the oil, amazingly.

People don't realize this is the key to longevity.

[jcboy]

We had a customer once who came in with his new Rav4, with about 38,000 miles on it, not running. They put it in the air and tried to drain the oil and nothing came out. So they dropped the oil pan. They had to scoop the oil out, because it had become a super thick pudding. We put it in a cut off gal jug and stood pencil up in it. The pencil stood up for about 6 months. The customer insisted that he changed the oil a couple times. It still had the oil filter with the orange o-ring on it. LoL. Denied warranty.

Once had a doctor who swore he'd never buy another Toyota after is Celica engine blew up. He we about 70,000 miles without changing the oil, amazingly.

People don't realize this is the key to longevity.

these are so funny.

anyway, the VVTi engines i think are very prone to sludging. Honda oil changes are still at 10,000km, while Toyotas are at 5,000km.

[Kalispel]

A lot of Honda owners report loosing 1/3 to 2/3 oil between oil changes as the car ages (60-75K+ miles), even when you follow all the recommended maintenance. I had to start adding Bars Main Seal Repair additive at every 3-4K oil change on my 2000 Accord around that time to stop the loss. Worked like a charm for many years until I sold it at 200K miles.

[froger]

:headbang:these are so funny.

anyway, the VVTi engines i think are very prone to sludging. Honda oil changes are still at 10,000km, while Toyotas are at 5,000km.
Not true Toyota calls for 8000km oil changes in Canada and after 2016 most models call for 16000km oil changes.

[ezhacker1]

mmm, teriyaki sauce in the engine

[jcboy]

:headbang:
Not true Toyota calls for 8000km oil changes in Canada and after 2016 most models call for 16000km oil changes.

sorry i meant here in the manila, and for regular oil. This is (relatively) a very polluted city, so mineral/regular oil when changed at more than 5-7k km tend to show sludges. synthetic oils are changed at 10000km, with a little topup as necessary.

[bronsin]

I use 10-40 in the wife's 05 Camry with 133k on it cause if you use 5-30 and drive 5000 miles it ll be down 2 quarts or more.

Not only do you need to CHANGE the oil you need to CHECK it at least twice between changes.

[B.B._07]

On the opposite side of the sludge spectrum I recently ran across an 08 Yaris with 108K km at a local junkyard that had been in an front end collision. Somebody had already taken the valve cover off and I was very impressed how clean the engine was inside. Usually even in a well maintained engine there is some yellowing of the cast parts from blowby getting pushing up to the top of the engine but that engine looked like it could of rolled of the factory floor a couple months earlier.

[fourbangingfun]

Wow what a set of pictures! I guess I'll keep changing it out every 5k! 170k miles and counting. I wonder if it had synthetic or conventional in it. Or if it would matter at that many miles.

[malibuguy]

Its disturbing how often this still happens. A friend of mine works with a lady who buys brand new elantras...drives them until they make noise and trade them in. Doing absolutely nothing to the car other then putting gas in.

I run amsoil in my yaris with 15,000mile changes and its gorgeous inside. I also do periodically oil sample tests just to be sure.

[invader166]

Solution is simple:

Buy an electric vehicle.:wink: No more oil to change. :thumbsup:

[bronsin]

Solution is simple:

Buy an electric vehicle.:wink: No more oil to change. :thumbsup:

No just batteries to charge. :cry:

[lupetnen]

this is really scary

[tmontague]

That's brutal.

When I changed my valve cover gasket at 150k km and checked my valve clearance the cams and everything else looked brand new. Zero staining or buildup of any type. The metal was smooth and shiny with an oil coating on it.

Bought the car at 87k km and initially used CT brand (Shell) 5w30 syn oil on 10,000km OCI's and in the past year or two I've been running Mobil1 0w30 on 13,000km OCI's with oil analysis and I'll be pushing that to 15k km this current OCI.

[holly01]

pitiful

[texascolt45]

I sold my wifes mustang to a friend.she went 20,000 till I bought oil and filter and changed it.the mobil 1 was black but what I could see inside the valve cover was cleanish.

[JudgeM]

I think there needs to be a new standard in gauge cluster warning lamps.

This engine oil has been an interesting issue. I personally would like checking fluid levels and service dues to be part of the road code. Anyways, I see more higher end cars having the maintenance reminder lamps. I think this should be standard, together with an oil level gauge. and audible warnings for things like overheat

I once hitched a ride with a family friend and we had to stop for a while because she said "the needle is on H, I need to let it go down before we can go again" Turns out she been doing this for a while. I checked and found there was no engine oil. So she took it to a mechanic, put some oil in and no surprises the piston rings were gone so it smoked really bad.

I've known people who've driven cars overheating unknowingly and damaged head gaskets etc. Thats why I think a couple more warnings/indicators could be useful

They say once u get an oil pressure warning its too late.

[Dodge Aries K]

At least in the USA, the Yaris has a Maintenance Required light that comes on every 5000 miles. Not that people listen to it, though.

[dogsridewith]

so duplicate a bit of the system w/ a flashing check-dipstick icon every 1000 miles

[CoryM]

I see probably 3 or 4 cars per year where someone kills it from not checking their oil level. And I see maybe 12 per year where people have run their car low enough that the valvetrain is noisy. Barely anyone checks their oil level anymore. It's to the point that we recommend customers do oil changes every 5000km ONLY because that is when many cars require top-up oil. Such a waste.

[dogsridewith]

so duplicate a bit of the system w/ a flashing check-dipstick icon every 1000 miles
Impossible, because Toyota wants the buyer to think the car will need minimal service or attention. Hard proof of this is that my Tercel and Corolla had access plugs for re-tensioning (not checking) cam belts, but nothing in any of their owners or shop manuals mentions any retensioning or tension checking...just belt replacement at 90k miles, which involves nothing to do with those access plugs. (Belts DO loosen some w/ breaking in, and belts DO last a lot longer with some tension...my guess is well beyond 90k for vehicles mentioned...I found the access plugs and re-tensioned belts at 10k or so.)