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Yaris709
01-12-2017, 11:53 AM
Just wondering if the newer type led's with the heat sink on back will work in the h4 yaris headlights? Since the h4's have that rubber seal around the back of the bulb. And a good bright reputable led if anyone knows what brand is good!
Yaris874
01-12-2017, 12:12 PM
Just wondering if the newer type led's with the heat sink on back will work in the h4 yaris headlights? Since the h4's have that rubber seal around the back of the bulb. And a good bright reputable led if anyone knows what brand is good!
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170112/7978f80fa4c312b17d41ce5223d00f8b.jpg I got this one on ebay super bright
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tarkus
01-12-2017, 12:47 PM
No problems fitting it into the Yaris' cramped space?
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Yaris874
01-12-2017, 12:49 PM
No problems fitting it into the Yaris' cramped space?
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Wat year my 07 H.B FIT GOOD
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Yaris709
01-13-2017, 11:56 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170112/7978f80fa4c312b17d41ce5223d00f8b.jpg I got this one on ebay super bright
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What's the name of these listed as on ebay?
Yaris874
01-13-2017, 12:10 PM
What's the name of these listed as on ebay?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/9550adbc0f005f3bdd6104521befc31c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/31f071ac05a99f7593960a4d6334af70.jpg
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thebarber
01-13-2017, 01:51 PM
i had them in my echo...no issues. H4's in my wifes old Kia Soul, too....no issues
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Yaris709
01-13-2017, 03:39 PM
How much brighter than the stock halogens were they?
Yaris874
01-13-2017, 03:40 PM
How much brighter than the stock halogens were they?
I take a picture tonight and post it
i had them in my echo...no issues. H4's in my wifes old Kia Soul, too....no issues
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kevinj93
01-13-2017, 05:22 PM
Even more important that brightness - how do these affect the light pattern? Most LED replacements I have seen for other globes have the LEDs covering a different area to the original globe filaments. This can significantly change the pattern of light output. Worst possibility with the headlights is to dazzle other drivers and possibly cause an accident.
I look forward to seeing the photos of the light output.
Yaris874
01-13-2017, 07:13 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/5274f41c426e20b5e48fc3df166d9efa.jpg
Low
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/01fa9d06d493b49ac2b6bf03f3a276ab.jpg
High
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/c894775b1492b1194cdf3181c62c79ee.jpg
High
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/46d1863287c5b6344f0c42e32c970c1f.jpg
Low
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/d54b21e7f9a2cef47e74f0fdfdc9f086.jpg
Low
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/1ed027b2f6497cc2107daadf22da0420.jpg
Low
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/d35dbfd97108f08d9dd6a468195db6c1.jpg
High
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/56988f0b1232d175e81d0350bd2cefb5.jpg
Low
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/0283aaa5dfb487911223b694b28fd9e5.jpg
High
I hope this works
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kevinj93
01-13-2017, 09:31 PM
Thanks. Great photos. I will have to get some of these and try them.
tmontague
01-13-2017, 09:52 PM
I'd love to see how they look from an incoming direction. Up close they seem like they have a decent cut off but from any kind of distance they shed a lot of bright light up top even on low beams.
I'm all for brighter lights but in almost every case I've seen anything brighter than oem needs a projector or else they blind other drivers and tell "I do half assed mods to look good but screw other drivers"
They may actually not be bad at all tough to tell though without seeing them in person. They are much better than oem.
So many cars in my area throw in led's or hid's and skip on projectors to "save money" and they make it impossible to see.
NYC-SE
01-14-2017, 02:15 AM
I'd love to see how they look from an incoming direction. Up close they seem like they have a decent cut off but from any kind of distance they shed a lot of bright light up top even on low beams.
I'm all for brighter lights but in almost every case I've seen anything brighter than oem needs a projector or else they blind other drivers and tell "I do half assed mods to look good but screw other drivers"
They may actually not be bad at all tough to tell though without seeing them in person. They are much better than oem.
So many cars in my area throw in led's or hid's and skip on projectors to "save money" and they make it impossible to see.
+1
tarkus
01-14-2017, 02:01 PM
Headlamp bulbs are a PITA to replace in a Yaris, and you basically have to take the bumper/cowl partly off. So I would like to only use LED replacements from now on, but just with regular brightness. Is that not possible?
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kimona
01-14-2017, 02:23 PM
Even more important that brightness - how do these affect the light pattern? Most LED replacements I have seen for other globes have the LEDs covering a different area to the original globe filaments. This can significantly change the pattern of light output. Worst possibility with the headlights is to dazzle other drivers and possibly cause an accident.
+1
invader166
01-14-2017, 09:07 PM
I'd love to see how they look from an incoming direction. Up close they seem like they have a decent cut off but from any kind of distance they shed a lot of bright light up top even on low beams.
I'm all for brighter lights but in almost every case I've seen anything brighter than oem needs a projector or else they blind other drivers and tell "I do half assed mods to look good but screw other drivers"
They may actually not be bad at all tough to tell though without seeing them in person. They are much better than oem.
So many cars in my area throw in led's or hid's and skip on projectors to "save money" and they make it impossible to see.
I totally agree with this. I'm currently using these LED bulbs, which are simmilar:(http://www.hidvisioncanada.ca/products/h4-9003-hb2-hs1-hi-lo-6000lm-6g-philips-led-headlight-kit-fanless-with-built-in-led-driver.html) and let me tell you, it's darn near impossible to get a proper cut-off with them.
Check out the picture below of how it looks onwards. Note: Driver side needs allignment. Any DIY guides on how to do this? :frown:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k137/invader166/20170114_160212_zpsyep9f2ii.jpg
This thing is, reflector housings were never designed for brighter output. The cut-off will always be washy. The same thing will happen if you change your OEM bulbs with brighter halogen bulbs.
If you trully want a poper cut-off, then a projector retrofit is the only real way to go.:thumbsup:
malibuguy
01-15-2017, 02:24 AM
Do a proper HID projector retrofit. Anything other then a HALOGEN bulb in a housing designed around a HALOGEN filament and the way it produces light is going to be a downgrade and reduces safety for you and other motorist. You basically paying to downgrade the car.
My favorite halogen bulb that I ran in my sedan prior to HID projectors was the Osram Nightbreaker. Powerbulbs.com sells em for a great price and I absolutely loved them.
However nothing beats properly engineered HID projectors with excellent cut off and more even light beam
invader166
01-15-2017, 03:40 AM
Do a proper HID projector retrofit. Anything other then a HALOGEN bulb in a housing designed around a HALOGEN filament and the way it produces light is going to be a downgrade and reduces safety for you and other motorist. You basically paying to downgrade the car.
My favorite halogen bulb that I ran in my sedan prior to HID projectors was the Osram Nightbreaker. Powerbulbs.com sells em for a great price and I absolutely loved them.
However nothing beats properly engineered HID projectors with excellent cut off and more even light beam
:bow::bow::bow: Amin!
Exiwolfman
01-16-2017, 01:03 AM
Do a proper HID projector retrofit. Anything other then a HALOGEN bulb in a housing designed around a HALOGEN filament and the way it produces light is going to be a downgrade and reduces safety for you and other motorist. You basically paying to downgrade the car.
My favorite halogen bulb that I ran in my sedan prior to HID projectors was the Osram Nightbreaker. Powerbulbs.com sells em for a great price and I absolutely loved them.
However nothing beats properly engineered HID projectors with excellent cut off and more even light beam
Sure one can ...but can be a pain in the ass , I have tried hid kit and it was OK but do to our light assembly it was hard to adjust .
Now with the LEDs I have installed it's perfect no cut off just a nice bright area Infront plus fit like a glove with no modifications .
So, so far LED lights are in my opinion best setup with out doing anything extra , only thing I still have to do is to raise them a bit since I have not done any adjustments after running HIDs so the low beam is bit low .
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Exiwolfman
01-16-2017, 01:20 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170116/0e04aaf3ca7eb3185cb622dee678a0dc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170116/84dced883c65560d20b764408578371b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170116/3cf8601116f17e4ffda1589c3d8d15e0.jpg
From the front first pic ,2nd low ,3rd high beam
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kevinj93
01-16-2017, 02:32 AM
Hmm, there doesn't appear to be the normal sharp cutoff towards oncoming traffic that H4 lights normally have. Do those LEDs have a partial shield on the low beam like a normal H4 globe?
Exiwolfman
01-16-2017, 08:16 AM
Hmm, there doesn't appear to be the normal sharp cutoff towards oncoming traffic that H4 lights normally have. Do those LEDs have a partial shield on the low beam like a normal H4 globe?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170116/e9bb939399ba738b636adac2f0977ad8.jpg
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kevinj93
01-16-2017, 02:17 PM
Yes, I can see the shield in there to control the light pattern.
Thanks for the photos.
Exiwolfman
01-16-2017, 02:23 PM
Yes, I can see the shiled in there to control the light pattern.
Thsnks for the photos.
Np [emoji12]
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IllusionX
01-16-2017, 09:26 PM
Oh I gotta try one of these out.
I am still using my 10years old HID kit... Philips bulbs and BMW ballasts.
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Exiwolfman
01-16-2017, 09:28 PM
Oh I gotta try one of these out.
I am still using my 10years old HID kit... Philips bulbs and BMW ballasts.
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Will not be as bright unless u get a better kit lots to choose from for me this works great,plus no cut off and waterproof ...Easy install .
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thebarber
01-16-2017, 09:29 PM
How much brighter than the stock halogens were they?
Currently 4800lumens vs halogen @ maybe 1200lumens
Exiwolfman
01-16-2017, 09:33 PM
Currently 4800lumens vs halogen @ maybe 1200lumens
Mine are 8000L so guess way brighter than stock and it's noticeable for sure just I would not say as bright as hid but that couldl also be to phycological effect cos there is no cut off so even light as to cut and spot .
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malibuguy
01-16-2017, 11:50 PM
I give up smh
Exiwolfman
01-16-2017, 11:52 PM
I give up smh
Just get some ...Cheap of Amazon lol way brighter and better than stock lol
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IllusionX
01-17-2017, 07:35 AM
Will not be as bright unless u get a better kit lots to choose from for me this works great,plus no cut off and waterproof ...Easy install .
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What you mean no cut off?
My hid is pretty much a near perfect cut off compared to projectors.
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Exiwolfman
01-17-2017, 08:17 AM
What you mean no cut off?
My hid is pretty much a near perfect cut off compared to projectors.
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The LEDs I got have no cut off ...Look at pics I posted
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WeeYari
01-17-2017, 09:34 AM
No cut off...:thumbdown:
Exiwolfman
01-17-2017, 10:41 AM
No cut off...[emoji107]
Why ....I like it no stupid cut off line in the middle where up is dark down is light
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tmontague
01-17-2017, 11:00 AM
No cut off...:thumbdown:
Agreed, negligent
Yaris874
01-17-2017, 11:00 AM
Why ....I like it no stupid cut off line in the middle where up is dark down is light
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tmontague
01-17-2017, 11:06 AM
Why ....I like it no stupid cut off line in the middle where up is dark down is light
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I have projectors for my HID's with a proper cut off and I properly adjusted the headlight housing for height. I have no issues with there being no light above the cut off, I can see way more than just the road below/in front of me.
I also don't blind other drivers and I've had family members drive oncoming to my car as well as in front of me and both times they have reported having absolutely no blidness from my lights.
Costs me slightly more money and took longer to install by a few hours, but I now have much brifgtee lights than oem that look way better even when they aren't on and I don't cause a hazard to other drivers just so I can have brighter lights.
With the high beams on (projector flipped away) they are damn blinding and hurt your eyes.
Exiwolfman
01-17-2017, 01:31 PM
I have projectors for my HID's with a proper cut off and I properly adjusted the headlight housing for height. I have no issues with there being no light above the cut off, I can see way more than just the road below/in front of me.
I also don't blind other drivers and I've had family members drive oncoming to my car as well as in front of me and both times they have reported having absolutely no blidness from my lights.
Costs me slightly more money and took longer to install by a few hours, but I now have much brifgtee lights than oem that look way better even when they aren't on and I don't cause a hazard to other drivers just so I can have brighter lights.
With the high beams on (projector flipped away) they are damn blinding and hurt your eyes.
Well I'm glad you like your setup and it works for you, most ppl will not have the means or knowledge to retrofit lights.
For my application it was simple plug and play and yes I have them adjusted correctly but honestly with all the new car and HIDs plus LEDs as OEM I could careless if I blind someone cos I get it all the time .
So far this setup works at least for me best with stock Yaris light assembly and no cut off is a major plus in my are where we have hills and curvey roads .
Just my 2 cents on that .
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NYC-SE
01-17-2017, 02:08 PM
No cutoff=dangerous and selfish. Being blinded by others' lights DOES cause crashes.
tmontague
01-17-2017, 04:12 PM
Well I'm glad you like your setup and it works for you, most ppl will not have the means or knowledge to retrofit lights.
For my application it was simple plug and play and yes I have them adjusted correctly but honestly with all the new car and HIDs plus LEDs as OEM I could careless if I blind someone cos I get it all the time .
So far this setup works at least for me best with stock Yaris light assembly and no cut off is a major plus in my are where we have hills and curvey roads .
Just my 2 cents on that .
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I won't argue with you that the no cut off helps in the roads up in your neck of the woods. I've driven them enough at night in bad conditions and was glad for my HID high beams - which is just hid's w/ not cut off. And yes your LED's are an easy and simple plug and play, no argument there.
My issue is exactly that, if you do not possess the knowledge (nor willing to learn it) or slight extra cash to add the extra lumens properly than it shouldn't be done.
I've been blinded many times by these half assed retrofits and depending on the type of roads/conditions im driving in it can become an issue of safety quite quickly.
The arguments in favor of these installs are always the same selfish stance ignorant to how those actions affect other people on the road. If it was for pure off road puposes with no other traffic I would easily understand, but to simply ignore the effects to others because of the convenience to oneself is selfish no matter what the opinion is.
To each their own, but more of these half assed installs on the roads will be ruining it for the people who have properly installed HID's with projectors so that they can improve appearance and actually see better. It won't be hard to ban non oem spec'd lights down the road unfortunately.
Kaotic Lazagna
01-17-2017, 05:07 PM
I'll just give my 2 cents. I just installed Morimoto Elite HIDs (5000k) into my Yaris hatch because I hated the OEM halogens. I really had to aim them down to prevent the light scatter from blinding oncoming traffic (I knew I had to do this before hand). Comparing it to my FR-S with OEM HID projectors (replaced the OEM Osram bulbs with Osram CBI bulbs, more around 5500k with same lumens as the ~4300k OEM), the Yaris has no where near the throw or the spread as the FR-S.
I thought about doing retrofits (as I did with my previous Yaris sedan), but I just didn't want to deal with possible condensation again (but to be fair, I opened the sedan's headlights like 10 times due to various headlight mods). In the future, if I ever decide on going with retrofits again, I'll be getting TRS's mini H1 projectors. They have a better road illumination than my FR-S OEM HID projectors (probably partly because of the D4S bulbs that the FR-S uses).
https://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-retrofit-kits/universal-kits/bixenon-morimoto-mini-h1-stage-3.html
Kaotic Lazagna
01-17-2017, 05:14 PM
And if you don't want to take apart the headlights to do a projector retrofit (but can some how remove that shield/cover thing through the bulb opening), you can use these: https://www.amazon.com/Rover-Projector-Lossless-xenon-Retrofit/dp/B01E79JKM8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1483249143&sr=8-3&keywords=h4-mini-projectors
I would have went with them, but they're built in HID bulbs, and are 6000k (wouldn't want anything more than 5000k unless they're Osram CBI). I wouldn't use anything less than Morimoto bulbs for HIDs, but that's just me.
tmontague
01-17-2017, 06:54 PM
Fwiw i only had condesation on one or m'y headlights after m'y original install when i tried reusing thé oem sealant. I then went To Lowes and bought à proper sealant that stays flexible and since then have had no issues in all types of weather and temperatures.
Imo if you don't want to deal with properly sealing them or the potential headache then don't do the mod, or pay for someone else to do it. Or like you did, manually point them down so they don't blind others - however this ends up leading to poor light patterns like you stated which brings me back to my previous point of do it properly or not at all
Exiwolfman
01-17-2017, 07:09 PM
No cutoff=dangerous and selfish. Being blinded by others' lights DOES cause crashes.
Really now ...Have you look at the pics I posted I guess not !
Actually no cut of is safer anyway u look at it and with proper alignment it does not blind ppl in actually I have yet anyone high beam me unlike with my HIDs and cut off.
And as for crashes ... to bright light, maybe we should remove all new cars with OEM LEDs and HIDs cos they are always way to dangerous as you say.
It's just funny how ppl like to state there bloody opinion with out any fact's ...O and here will attach a pic just so you can see what I'm talking about.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170117/f40c13aa486dd36bde8e8d8f08e16aa7.jpg
That is low beam
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170117/0bb5602c6cba1c4c46c620fda1c642f3.jpg
And high beam
Anyways be safe
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yarisugi
01-17-2017, 07:20 PM
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Kaotic Lazagna
01-17-2017, 07:25 PM
Fwiw i only had condesation on one or m'y headlights after m'y original install when i tried reusing thé oem sealant. I then went To Lowes and bought à proper sealant that stays flexible and since then have had no issues in all types of weather and temperatures.
Imo if you don't want to deal with properly sealing them or the potential headache then don't do the mod, or pay for someone else to do it. Or like you did, manually point them down so they don't blind others - however this ends up leading to poor light patterns like you stated which brings me back to my previous point of do it properly or not at all
Don't get me wrong, they're still better than the halogen bulbs for two reasons, better spread and better (to me) color temp. They can have the same spread, and the 5000k color temp will help me see better (noticed objects tend to reflect the light of cooler colors than warmer colors).
My other post was just to confirm that PnP HIDs aren't going to be anywhere near HID projectors.
I don't think I started having condensation issues until around the 6th time I opened the head lights. I even got new sealant tape from TRS, and that didn't solve the issue, so I gave up. Lol
Kaotic Lazagna
01-17-2017, 07:31 PM
Exiwolfman, OEM HIDs and LED projectors were designed around how each type of bulb distributes light (each type has a different dispersion). For example, HID and LED projectors don't have "squirrel finders" that will be a source of a lot of stray light in halogen projectors with HIDs installed in them.
Exiwolfman
01-17-2017, 08:00 PM
Exiwolfman, OEM HIDs and LED projectors were designed around how each type of bulb distributes light (each type has a different dispersion). For example, HID and LED projectors don't have "squirrel finders" that will be a source of a lot of stray light in halogen projectors with HIDs installed in them.
In all honesty idk no more ... Question was asked I answered but for some ppl that was a selfish of me and how I like my lights so ty for ur insight on lights.
I for now will stick with my cheap Amazon LEDs cos they work well and better than stock .
Have a good one
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Kaotic Lazagna
01-18-2017, 12:49 AM
In all honesty idk no more ... Question was asked I answered but for some ppl that was a selfish of me and how I like my lights so ty for ur insight on lights.
I for now will stick with my cheap Amazon LEDs cos they work well and better than stock .
Have a good one
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My reply was in regards to you saying "remove all OEM HID and LEDs" earlier.
IllusionX
01-18-2017, 09:23 PM
I snapped this yesterday.. 4300K HID with stock reflector housing.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170119/3fcf7660e2d342982471d261bc17795e.jpg
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Exiwolfman
01-18-2017, 09:25 PM
I snapped this yesterday.. 4300K HID with stock reflector housing.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170119/3fcf7660e2d342982471d261bc17795e.jpg
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Looks good and the cut off is not to crazy
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Kaotic Lazagna
01-18-2017, 10:32 PM
I snapped this yesterday.. 4300K HID with stock reflector housing.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170119/3fcf7660e2d342982471d261bc17795e.jpg
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Might just be the way the car was parked, but I think the passenger side needs to be aimed slightly lower :iono:
Exiwolfman
01-18-2017, 10:34 PM
Might just be the way the car was parked, but I think the passenger side needs to be aimed slightly lower :iono:
Passenger side can stay higher it's the driver side that should be lower so one does not blind on coming traffic or both even works well too.
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IllusionX
01-18-2017, 10:40 PM
They are aimed exactly the same height. It's the way the headlights are made for LHD, passenger side always angles up toward road side signs.
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Exiwolfman
01-18-2017, 10:48 PM
They are aimed exactly the same height. It's the way the headlights are made for LHD, passenger side always angles up toward road side signs.
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Yup it does
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Kaotic Lazagna
01-19-2017, 12:45 AM
Passenger side can stay higher it's the driver side that should be lower so one does not blind on coming traffic or both even works well too.
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They are aimed exactly the same height. It's the way the headlights are made for LHD, passenger side always angles up toward road side signs.
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The picture makes the passenger hotspot look like it sits higher than the driverside.
I am well aware of LHD and RHD cutoffs. The LHD cut off looks like
____/ ____/
What I was saying is in the picture, the "horizontal line" looks like it's higher than the drivers side, like:
..........._____/
_____/
but like I said, it could just be the way the car was parked in relation to the house.
Kaotic Lazagna
01-19-2017, 12:49 AM
http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/500/medium/halogen_cutoff.jpg
That's what it should look like.
Kaotic Lazagna
01-19-2017, 12:52 AM
But I just realized the door is actually not on the same plane as the garage, so that's why the passenger side appears to be higher than the driver side.
IllusionX
01-19-2017, 09:50 PM
I started backing off and turning on a slanted driveway.
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Yaris709
01-20-2017, 03:40 PM
How do I adjust the lights on my yaris sedan guys? The lights aren't aimed properly would like to get them aimed correctly
Exiwolfman
01-20-2017, 03:48 PM
How do I adjust the lights on my yaris sedan guys? The lights aren't aimed properly would like to get them aimed correctly
Adjust screw at top open hood
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Kaotic Lazagna
01-21-2017, 12:02 AM
How do I adjust the lights on my yaris sedan guys? The lights aren't aimed properly would like to get them aimed correctly
On the back of each headlight, iirc, there are metal adjustment knobs (it's hard to miss). I believe it's an 8mm to adjust.
BennyLava
01-29-2017, 01:55 AM
Fwiw i only had condesation on one or m'y headlights after m'y original install when i tried reusing thé oem sealant. I then went To Lowes and bought à proper sealant that stays flexible and since then have had no issues in all types of weather and temperatures.
Imo if you don't want to deal with properly sealing them or the potential headache then don't do the mod, or pay for someone else to do it. Or like you did, manually point them down so they don't blind others - however this ends up leading to poor light patterns like you stated which brings me back to my previous point of do it properly or not at all
Do you have a thread where you took apart the Yaris headlight and installed the lenses? I don't want to blind anyone, but I want those LED's! I'm no stranger to DIY so hopefully I can just copy whatever you did. I have a 2009 sedan. I hope you don't lose any brightness and/or visibility by using a lens. But I have to have some kind of cuttoff for the beam where I am, because as far as I know its against the law to have lights that blind people and you will get pulled over for it.
tarkus
02-11-2017, 01:06 AM
An informative article about halogens and HIDs - http://www.ebay.com/gds/Xenon-and-HID-and-Plasma-bulbs-the-truth-/10000000001832221/g.html
ryryAP2
03-06-2017, 02:54 AM
And if you don't want to take apart the headlights to do a projector retrofit (but can some how remove that shield/cover thing through the bulb opening), you can use these: https://www.amazon.com/Rover-Projector-Lossless-xenon-Retrofit/dp/B01E79JKM8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1483249143&sr=8-3&keywords=h4-mini-projectors
I would have went with them, but they're built in HID bulbs, and are 6000k (wouldn't want anything more than 5000k unless they're Osram CBI). I wouldn't use anything less than Morimoto bulbs for HIDs, but that's just me.
Newbie here! Was wondering if anyone has tried these rover projector bulbs? Wanted to do a PnP without retrofitting projectors.
Yaris874
03-06-2017, 08:20 AM
I got one different brand on ebay for 22 am goin to try to do it today may be
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ryryAP2
03-06-2017, 12:29 PM
I got one different brand on ebay for 22 am goin to try to do it today may be
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Awesome! Let me know how they work out. I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on the Amazon Car Rover ones. If anything they have a good return policy at Amazon :biggrin:
Yaris874
03-06-2017, 12:32 PM
The ones on ebay ar not built in hid
So the Amazon are is the only difference
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Yaris874
03-06-2017, 12:34 PM
But u still have to buy the ballast on the Amazon ones the ebay ones u buy ur Owen so u can pick ur color and 35w or 55w
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ryryAP2
03-06-2017, 01:05 PM
But u still have to buy the ballast on the Amazon ones the ebay ones u buy ur Owen so u can pick ur color and 35w or 55w
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From what I understand they only come with 6000k. Amazon sells a kit with the bulbs, ballasts ,and harness relay. The ballasts are 55w, but I was thinking of getting 35w. hmmmmmmm.
Here's the link: http://a.co/gysL9HO
tarkus
03-06-2017, 01:14 PM
I got one different brand on ebay for 22 am goin to try to do it today may be
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Can you share the eBay link?
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Yaris874
03-06-2017, 01:22 PM
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ryryAP2
03-06-2017, 01:31 PM
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Plan on using LEDs or HIDs to pair with them?
Yaris874
03-06-2017, 01:39 PM
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Right side in the projector left is regular
Yaris874
03-06-2017, 01:40 PM
Plan on using LEDs or HIDs to pair with them?
U can only fit hid
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Yaris874
03-06-2017, 01:43 PM
Can you share the eBay link?
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ryryAP2
03-06-2017, 02:12 PM
@Yaris874
Thanks for the good info and pictures. If you can get us some night time photos as well. I'm thinking of going this route now :thumbup:
Yaris874
03-06-2017, 02:27 PM
@Yaris874
Thanks for the good info and pictures. If you can get us some night time photos as well. I'm thinking of going this route now [emoji106]
Ok give me couple days I just did it on my lunch brake just did one side I take some pictures when am done
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ryryAP2
03-06-2017, 02:31 PM
Ok give me couple days I just did it on my lunch brake just did one side I take some pictures when am done
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Take all the time you need :biggrin: They look great so far! :thumbsup:
Yaris874
03-06-2017, 02:32 PM
Thanks
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Yaris874
03-06-2017, 10:01 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/3b224927c563623158b95a5dbbf03072.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/df9b0d7e2b2688fefa84d8da3d4a13fc.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/3e1aeb23efed0bc7b4b8e1f76a010b60.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/1718e40fc9122d3b749d4165e05a3cf1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/96636986809036132d8dc935dacfe2c1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/3182e861861c22c09beeb328544ea2aa.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/8e1b78be5a70aa200a22140d5b1ae9e6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/2506d7e3d317da747536796daa2951f4.jpg this is all low beam
I Google how height to aim the lights they said 25 feet 3.5 height ??? They look high
I haven't connected the high beam am waiting for the cables I put some pictures of high beam when I get it
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shiroyaris
03-06-2017, 10:29 PM
874 thanks for your time and efforts in getting the pictures... definitely considering them, just have to get the ballasts and relay's and all the other stuff!!!
ryryAP2
03-07-2017, 02:09 AM
@yaris847 they look great! Light scatter isn't as bad as without the reflectors. Any lighting experts can weigh in on the height?
Kaotic Lazagna
03-07-2017, 03:25 AM
Park on a level surface parallel to a wall (driver side to the wall). Adjust driver side headlight until the cutoff is on a slight decline (ideal is 1* downward). Then park perpendicular to the wall on a level surface (farther the better to be around 30 feet away). Adjust passenger side headlight so that the top portion of the stepped cutoff of the driver side matches the passenger side's stepped cutoff.
You've just now adjusted your headlights based off your car's ride height so that it doesn't blind on coming traffic.
Kaotic Lazagna
03-07-2017, 03:30 AM
So based on 874's third pic down (provided the ground is level, which is hard to tell), it looks like his driver side headlight is at least +10*. Given he's gone for the the double stepped cutoff (top part of the driver side is in line with the passenger side bottom), potentially blinding on coming traffic pretty bad. Again, it could just be that road is going down hill in the third pic.
Yaris874
03-07-2017, 09:20 AM
So this is everything I got from ebay except the ballast because I had somehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/e3c7cb993dff1b50c2eb338abc6601c0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/44d68ca826b5d14df6d58f4b1f6417f4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/a542555a1ad8695ac225482dd9498f69.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/c0686b2e3a2d07a436579d10f6f941d1.jpg
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thebarber
03-07-2017, 11:09 AM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/dabarber/echo%20RS/echo%20rally%20fogs%203_zpsiefg5hnk.jpg
Yaris874
03-07-2017, 01:50 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/8d2fd118b76ed1e1471039af164480ee.jpg ok so I when to one of my friends gas station the they do inspection stickers the is 12 feet from the wall 25" from the floor
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Kaotic Lazagna
03-07-2017, 02:28 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/8d2fd118b76ed1e1471039af164480ee.jpg ok so I when to one of my friends gas station the they do inspection stickers the is 12 feet from the wall 25" from the floor
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As long as it ends up being a declined angle. Also decided on a single step vs a double step adjustment?
Yaris874
03-07-2017, 02:32 PM
Am getting confused single step double step can u explain ??
so they way off r.l bi 6" l.l bi 3 " am goin to check tonight
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Kaotic Lazagna
03-07-2017, 02:39 PM
Am getting confused single step double step can u explain ??
so they way off r.l bi 6" l.l bi 3 " am goin to check tonight
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Sorry. Okay, you know how projectors have a cutoff? The cutoff is comprised of a lower line, slant in the middle, and continues as a higher line, so a single step. When the passenger side's lower line is at the same level as the driver side's higher line, the entire cutoff is comprised of two steps.
Yaris874
03-07-2017, 02:44 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/a3e336989c91ac1b0daf21b8726c797c.jpg so this is single step
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Kaotic Lazagna
03-07-2017, 02:46 PM
Single step set up:
http://www.vanix.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/IMG_0499.jpg
Double step set up:
http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq326/chrisminx/Mobile%20Uploads/20150314_202037_zpspyxdyukz.jpg
Kaotic Lazagna
03-07-2017, 02:49 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/a3e336989c91ac1b0daf21b8726c797c.jpg so this is single step
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That would be a double step.
It's all just preference, but I ended up going to the single step (proper way actually) from a double step. In order for me to not blind on coming traffic at the time, I had to get the passenger side along a parallel wall to be as close to horizontal as possible, and then adjust the driver side down. Well, that sacrificed some throw in favor of shining up road signs, and that just wasn't worth it to me.
Yaris874
03-07-2017, 02:52 PM
Thank u bro I learn something new today thank u
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Kaotic Lazagna
03-07-2017, 02:55 PM
Thank u bro I learn something new today thank u
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No problem. Drive around which each set up to see which you like better. :thumbsup:
Yaris874
03-07-2017, 02:57 PM
Maybe u can help me with this so I put the hid h3 in but because was h4 so I connected the Lil motor for the cutoff for high beam I connected to ground of the h4 plug and positive on the highbeam plug so when I flick to high beam the hid cut off so I purchased this maybe Thas the issue?? What u think
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Kaotic Lazagna
03-07-2017, 03:20 PM
Try unpinning the two vertical prongs on the harness (the part that plugs into the OEM connector) and switch the two and repin. Try that to see if it fixes your high beam issue.
Yaris874
03-07-2017, 03:23 PM
Ok thanks
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ryryAP2
03-07-2017, 07:49 PM
@yaris847 was thinking of doing the same setup without the relay. Amazon had similar products, but of course I needed to get ballasts and bulbs. I went with Kensington ballasts and bulbs and iJDMTOy easy relay harness for the bi-xenon.
Yaris874
03-08-2017, 07:54 AM
Try unpinning the two vertical prongs on the harness (the part that plugs into the OEM connector) and switch the two and repin. Try that to see if it fixes your high beam issue.
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Yaris874
03-08-2017, 08:19 AM
@yaris847 was thinking of doing the same setup without the relay. Amazon had similar products, but of course I needed to get ballasts and bulbs. I went with Kensington ballasts and bulbs and iJDMTOy easy relay harness for the bi-xenon.
Nice take some pictures when u done
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Kaotic Lazagna
03-08-2017, 02:29 PM
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So you went back with the double step set up?
Also, did switching the prongs help your high beam issues?
Yaris874
03-08-2017, 03:07 PM
So you went back with the double step set up?
Also, did switching the prongs help your high beam issues?
I switch the prongs around an the other side star working so I think I need that plug with the relay I got it is on the way
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David C
03-05-2018, 12:15 AM
Update on the mini projector installation ?
ojeysky
01-04-2019, 09:02 AM
Just wondering if the newer type led's with the heat sink on back will work in the h4 yaris headlights? Since the h4's have that rubber seal around the back of the bulb. And a good bright reputable led if anyone knows what brand is good!
I recently purchased one of these and I am having a hard time fitting the rubber seals. Any suggestions?
IllusionX
01-04-2019, 09:05 AM
I recently purchased one of these and I am having a hard time fitting the rubber seals. Any suggestions?I had to cut the 4 nibbles out. You have to install the holder, out the rubber on and turn to lock the LED in place.
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ojeysky
01-04-2019, 11:43 AM
I had to cut the 4 nibbles out. You have to install the holder, out the rubber on and turn to lock the LED in place.
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Thanks for the hint will do just that. However there seem to be another issue, the hi-beam blue icon no longer show up on my dashboard, is that normal? It normally show up when I used the OEM bulbs.
Update: So it happens that one could turn the cover around to fit instead of cutting it. I have attached picture for anyone who may find this useful.
ojeysky
01-04-2019, 01:16 PM
Thanks for the hint will do just that. However there seem to be another issue, the hi-beam blue icon no longer show up on my dashboard, is that normal? It normally show up when I used the OEM bulbs.
Just as a follow-up, I returned the osram halogen bulb and the high beam indicator came back on, I then plugged back the LED same thing no more high beam indicator. What could be the fix to this?
IllusionX
01-04-2019, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the hint will do just that. However there seem to be another issue, the hi-beam blue icon no longer show up on my dashboard, is that normal? It normally show up when I used the OEM bulbs.Normal. Resistance is different, and the icon don't show up when using LED
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ojeysky
01-04-2019, 02:04 PM
Normal. Resistance is different, and the icon don't show up when using LED
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Ah thanks that's good to know.
Regards
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