2018 Yaris?

[kimona]

This is the 2017 Toyota Vitz. Will this be the 2018 Yaris here in the U.S.?

[SirDigby]

I think they are dropping the "yaris" and going with "im"

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I think they are dropping the "yaris" and going with "im"

The iM is a Corolla hatch (aka Auris).

[Kalispel]

Sadly, I would be surprised if they didn't drop the Toyota-made Yaris, and just go with the iA (Mazda) Yaris for the North American market. We will see. I wonder how long Toyota plans to run with the 2nd Gen Yaris underpinnings with incremental clever refreshes. If its not broke, don't try to fix it I guess, and it certainly saves them on R&D costs of creating a whole new model design - though snotty North American critics will crucify it for being 'recycled old tech' if it does make it over here (like they have been doing since around 2012). Toyota would have to update the transmission and pump-up the engine specs a bit (at the least) to escape their reviewer wrath.

Not a fan of the front/rear bumper black cutouts on the Yellow Yaris pictured. I like the tail-lights and hatch design better though.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I don't like the Corolla-like taillights or the Squidward nose up front.

I think Toyota just needs to update the interior with more soft-touch materials. One of the biggest complaints with the Yaris was all the hard plastic everywhere. They should also use a 6-speed automatic and manual now to try to help improve the mpg.

[SirDigby]

The iM is a Corolla hatch (aka Auris).

oh yea. I meant the "ia," sorry.

[kimona]

... snotty North American critics will crucify it for being 'recycled old tech' if it does make it over here (like they have been doing since around 2012). Toyota would have to update the transmission and pump-up the engine specs a bit (at the least) to escape their reviewer wrath.

Not a fan of the front/rear bumper black cutouts on the Yellow Yaris pictured. I like the tail-lights and hatch design better though.

Probably right.

The front bumper and grille are hideous, and I just don't get the obsession with huge fake vents (front and rear) on so many of the new models. Stupid.

Nevertheless, I'd still buy one if it makes it over here. I can't deny I love the Vitz/Yaris!

[MadMax]

Fugly.

[NYC-SE]

Fugly.

Yep.

[kimona]

Fugly.

Yes. That applies to all new Toyota/Lexus models.

[tmontague]

Wow that front end is atrocious. The rear end not too bad.

It's time for a new engine or at least a 1nzfe 2.0 and yes a 6spd trans as well.
It wouldn't cost much if they just used a 6spd trans from another Toyota already using that trans. It is a great engine, but it is long over due for an update, how long has it been in use now?

[kimona]

It's time for a new engine or at least a 1nzfe 2.0 and yes a 6spd trans as well.
It is a great engine, but it is long over due for an update, how long has it been in use now?

I'm more than satisfied with the 1.5L and the 4-spd. automatic transmission.

[Kalispel]

I'm sure the SE version probably looks sexier than that yellow L pictured, but I would really have to opt for the black paint to hide/blend the atrocious black plastic cutouts on the front/back bumper (& the gaping front maw design looks worse than the current). Black paint on the current 2015 to 2017 design hides/blends the front to the point where you don't even notice it. Sometimes I wish I would have gone black instead of white, even with the heat out here.

[why?]

the engine is fine. Cheap and reliable. I wouldn't mind if they added all the features like VVTLI etc to get more mpg, and a 6 speed manual and 8 speed auto, but really Toyota USA does not want to sell the Yaris, dealers don't want to sell the Yaris either.

[Kalispel]

the engine is fine. Cheap and reliable. I wouldn't mind if they added all the features like VVTLI etc to get more mpg, and a 6 speed manual and 8 speed auto, but really Toyota USA does not want to sell the Yaris, dealers don't want to sell the Yaris either.

I noticed that both the 2016 and 2017 were/are being stocked at the dealerships around here even less than in 2015, and they were pretty scarce in 2015. You are lucky to find one token L/LE Yaris on the lot at any dealership here now. Most have zero - but lots of Corolla's though.

[kevinj93]

Toyota USA does not want to sell the Yaris, dealers don't want to sell the Yaris either.

Here in Australia the Yaris is being advertised on prime time TV. Its's maybe not as popular as the Corolla, but I see a lot of them about.

[why?]

Here in Australia the Yaris is being advertised on prime time TV. Its's maybe not as popular as the Corolla, but I see a lot of them about.

They are hugely popular overseas, they have been the number 1 selling car in Europe for a very long time. The problem is for some reason car companies are afraid to sell these cars with all the luxuries in the USA. They think people will not buy a Yaris if it is 20k even if it has all the luxuries of a Camry and Avalon. They are of course totally wrong, but that causes them to do stupid things.

[Kalispel]

Some info on the 2018 Yaris:

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/02/toyota-s-compact-hatch-refreshed-with-sportier-styling.html

http://autoguide.com.vsassets.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/2018-toyota-yaris-refresh/2018-toyota-yaris-refresh-02.jpg

http://autoguide.com.vsassets.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/2018-toyota-yaris-refresh/2018-toyota-yaris-refresh-01.jpg

http://autoguide.com.vsassets.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/2018-toyota-yaris-refresh/2018-toyota-yaris-refresh-03.jpg

http://autoguide.com.vsassets.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/2018-toyota-yaris-refresh/thumbs/thumbs_2018-toyota-yaris-refresh-04.jpg

[Kalispel]

http://autoguide.com.vsassets.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/2018-toyota-yaris-refresh/2018-toyota-yaris-refresh-04.jpg

[Kalispel]

More pics at end of first page also

[justanotherdrunk]

i generally like it

not the 2 tone black top though

hopefully a solid color will be standard

interested to see new info as it comes

[Kalispel]

I like it as much as I do the 2015-2017 exterior, assuming solid colors instead of two-tone ones. It really isn't much different - just another minor refresh tweak. I guess the Yaris won't get a totally new redesign until at least 2020-2021 at this point.

I prefer the 'angry' LED 'eyebrows' on the headlights of the 2015-2017 SE better than the trend to move the LED to vertical positions around the fog light area like in the 2018 SE pictured (or are the LED DLR gone now and that's just a chrome trim piece and halogen fog lights?). I'm surprised they didn't switch up the alloys just to look more different from the 2015-2017. Overall, I like the rear-end design a bit better.

Bet they still don't put an OEM exhaust tip on it. Cheap bastards. Car reviewers heads are going to explode in wrath if the same 'outdated' engine/transmission is in it, lol. - which I'm willing to bet will be the case. :laugh: Hey, if it isn't broke, don't fix it - but it will definitely turn off those who insist on 'the newest tech', and make for good advertising/comparison fodder from competitors.

[Dodge Aries K]

The Yaris overseas has a 6 speed manual and CVT transmissions. Not sure why they won't put them into the cars here. The engine itself seems fine and outputs the same amount of power as most small car 1.5L units so besides being "old" I don't see what makes it any better or worse than newer stuff except maybe the lack of GDI garbage that still hasn't been proven to be the most reliable thing on the planet.

[Rigaud]

The Yaris overseas has a 6 speed manual and CVT transmissions. Not sure why they won't put them into the cars here. The engine itself seems fine and outputs the same amount of power as most small car 1.5L units so besides being "old" I don't see what makes it any better or worse than newer stuff except maybe the lack of GDI garbage that still hasn't been proven to be the most reliable thing on the planet.

Actually most 1.5L engines are in the 120 h.p. range. All of Toyota`s engines are lower rated H.P. then competition out there.

That may be changing starting in 2018 or 2019!!!!

[kimona]

The Yaris overseas has a 6 speed manual and CVT transmissions. Not sure why they won't put them into the cars here.

Hope we don't get the CVT in the Yaris. That thing is a terrible driving experience!

[ern-diz]

Just not a fan of the 2018 styling. The front feels like it has no grille, just that giant valance. Ends up reminding me of the Tesla 3 front end. The rear lights feel similar to other cars, they're not unique anymore.

Sorta looks like the Tesla 3, Matrix and Prius had a threesome which resulted in a baby and they're not sure who the parents are.

[scratchpaddy]

Wow, the dashboard is nearly identical. Definitely just a minor refresh. The journalists are gonna love beating this one up. :bonk:

[HOTSHOT]

Is that paddle gear shifters in the picture and a computer screen in the dash?

[stykerdk]

You Can read more here.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/toyota/yaris/97562/2017-toyota-yaris-revealed-with-new-look-tech-and-engine
But something is wrong about the 1,0 turbo, because 69hp is exactly what the non turbo 3cylinder 1,0 has.
But if Toyota want to be in the market in Europe they must introduce a small 3cylinder turbo engine, most other makes has one.

[justanotherdrunk]

http://jalopnik.com/toyota-is-building-the-210-horsepower-yaris-hot-hatch-w-1791125235

[Thirty-Nine]

I'm a bit torn, assuming this is going to be the 2018.

On the pro side, you'll get a proven platform with minimal updates that'll likely be very reliable.

On the con side, you'll be getting an aged platform that is mostly unchanged for 12 model years. A dinosaur in terms of new products.

Toyota knows its buyers, however, and most people (not us raving lunatics here) buying the Yaris probably don't care how many gears it has or how many horsepower it has. They know it's a Toyota and believe it'll run everlasting. However, the Yaris isn't a big seller for Toyota nor a volume leader in the subcompact segment anymore. If it ain't broke, don't fix it?

[Dodge Aries K]

If they sell the US the hot hatch Yaris, I'll go buy it. Seriously. Good bye Koreamobile.

[justanotherdrunk]

If they sell the US the hot hatch Yaris, I'll go buy it. Seriously. Good bye Koreamobile.

me too

but only if it comes with a silky smooth 6,7 or 8 non cvt speed automatic

[Kalispel]

I would go for the performance Yaris also if offered in the USA - IF it was available in solid colors, without the race/rally graphics all over it. Not a fan of the oversized rear spoiler either, but I could hopefully remedy that, and professionally replace it with a normal OEM hatch spoiler with a bit of money/effort. I would prefer a lower-key appearance (SE-style) 'Hot Hatch', that doesn't look like it is begging for a drag race at every stop light. :laugh: