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m.flores.0928
03-03-2017, 08:18 PM
I know the SE models comes with disc brakes in the rear, and the rest have drums.

Is there a kit to convert to disc? My drums are getting excessively noisy, and I bet discs are much quieter.

Thoughts and advice? Thanks!

Alain93
03-03-2017, 11:33 PM
Google says Yes, in South East Asia.

Lair
03-04-2017, 04:29 PM
I'd like to add rear discs also.

m.flores.0928
03-04-2017, 04:31 PM
I'd like to add rear discs also.



I honestly was thinking about just buying SE parts from a dealer and just making it work.


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Lair
03-07-2017, 12:02 AM
I honestly was thinking about just buying SE parts from a dealer and just making it work.


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LMK if you get a complete kit together - and how much.

justanotherdrunk
03-07-2017, 12:09 AM
what mine look like

https://photos.smugmug.com/2016-Toyota-Yaris-SE/i-bkRXWMj/0/L/100_5157-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/2016-Toyota-Yaris-SE/i-P5LxszF/0/L/100_5216-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/2016-Toyota-Yaris-SE/i-MBF4bR8/0/L/100_5217-L.jpg

m.flores.0928
03-07-2017, 12:14 AM
what mine look like



https://photos.smugmug.com/2016-Toyota-Yaris-SE/i-bkRXWMj/0/L/100_5157-L.jpg



https://photos.smugmug.com/2016-Toyota-Yaris-SE/i-P5LxszF/0/L/100_5216-L.jpg



https://photos.smugmug.com/2016-Toyota-Yaris-SE/i-MBF4bR8/0/L/100_5217-L.jpg



Nice, thanks. That's the SE model, they come factory. I'm trying to figure out if I can get SE parts on my LE rear axle beam


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m.flores.0928
03-07-2017, 12:14 AM
Nice, thanks. That's the SE model, they come factory. I'm trying to figure out if I can get SE parts on my LE rear axle beam


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If you can show pics of behind the hub, that would be fantastic!


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Dabuu
03-07-2017, 12:21 AM
You're going to need the SE's rear torsion beam because the caliper mounting points are part of the beam.

m.flores.0928
03-07-2017, 12:26 AM
You're going to need the SE's rear torsion beam because the caliper mounting points are part of the beam.



That's what I was trying to figure out, thanks! Hmmm. I saw a kit a few years ago by MicroImage. Whatever happened to them?


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Jerkratt
03-07-2017, 06:09 PM
and the rear beam axle wont bolt up to an older Yaris say MK2 mount points are different if you can get your hands on a set of caliper carriers you are set with the 2012 SE parts

edit: the e-brake lines are different length as well

m.flores.0928
03-07-2017, 06:25 PM
and the rear beam axle wont bolt up to an older Yaris say MK2 mount points are different if you can get your hands on a set of caliper carriers you are set with the 2012 SE parts

edit: the e-brake lines are different length as well

Jerkratt, Im unable to see that image you shared.

So are you saying that a 2012 (or 2014, like mine) SE axle beam wont fit on the same year LE axle beam?

Moreover, this picture you shared you said is a conversion, so how/where can I get it?

B.B._07
03-07-2017, 07:01 PM
The only way to make this work would be to get the rear torsion beam, caliper, and e brake cables from a wrecked mk 3 SE Yaris. Since there are very few wrecked mk 3 SE trim Yaris around your odds of finding one may not be so good. Buying these parts new is not really an option since it would be very expensive for the marginal performance boost. Since the Yaris is a very light car and 80% of the braking force comes from the front brakes I feel that rear disc's on the Yaris are more of an aesthetic upgrade. Also rear drums often require no maintenance and can typically last 120K before needing replacement.

m.flores.0928
03-07-2017, 07:09 PM
The only way to make this work would be to get the rear torsion beam, caliper, and e brake cables from a wrecked mk 3 SE Yaris. Since there are very few wrecked mk 3 SE trim Yaris around your odds of finding one may not be so good. Buying these parts new is not really an option since it would be very expensive for the marginal performance boost. Since the Yaris is a very light car and 80% of the braking force comes from the front brakes I feel that rear disc's on the Yaris are more of an aesthetic upgrade. Also rear drums often require no maintenance and can typically last 120K before needing replacement.



You're entirely not wrong. My desire is honestly pure aesthetic. The squeaking is because it's cold outside it's not THAT big a deal.

Yea I was just wondering if there's a reasonable kit out there, I guess not.

Thanks!


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Jerkratt
03-08-2017, 07:21 PM
Something is different with the mounting points to the car with the beam axle of the 2012 vs lets say the 2008. I have the Runstop rear disc conversion so I possibly can just use those carriers and get the 2012 rear caliper/rotor/pads. The E-Brake lines are also different lengths.

Jerkratt
03-08-2017, 07:27 PM
I work at a junkyard I'm just waiting for a 2012 SE to pop up.

Pinchlite
04-20-2018, 12:08 PM
The only way to make this work would be to get the rear torsion beam, caliper, and e brake cables from a wrecked mk 3 SE Yaris. Since there are very few wrecked mk 3 SE trim Yaris around your odds of finding one may not be so good. Buying these parts new is not really an option since it would be very expensive for the marginal performance boost. Since the Yaris is a very light car and 80% of the braking force comes from the front brakes I feel that rear disc's on the Yaris are more of an aesthetic upgrade. Also rear drums often require no maintenance and can typically last 120K before needing replacement.

No maintenance??

Constant ebrake adjustment.

DarkShadowFox
04-24-2018, 07:23 PM
what a pita. just buy the whole rear SE assembly from camelback.

CrankyOldMan
07-27-2018, 03:03 PM
and the rear beam axle wont bolt up to an older Yaris say MK2 mount points are different if you can get your hands on a set of caliper carriers you are set with the 2012 SE parts

edit: the e-brake lines are different length as well
I hate to pull a thread necro and be a jerk, but what evidence do you have to support this? There's a growing number of axles available on the parts interchange system and I've always been curious if this would work. There's a pretty limited number of search results for the topic both here and on the web, none of which confirmed or denied the fitment.

Yariseggvvti started a thread (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58556) that got derailed into peoples' personal mileage with rear brake shoes, no results.

Brushforhire started a thread (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56733) that included lots of good technical details and pictures of donor candidates but he crashed his car and the thread kind of died.

Jerkratt
07-27-2018, 03:53 PM
Cause I have a JDM rear beam axle. And a 08 yaris.. 😂 But you can piece together a setup with usdm toyota parts from other cars.

Fluxtasy
07-27-2018, 04:49 PM
I did enquire with a mechanic regarding rear disc conversion and he briefed me with 2 options.

First option was to swap the entire rear axle complete with disc. Costs with labor would set me back $425. :eek:

Second option requires minor modification to my rear axle. He mentioned that there was no mounting holes for the rear calipers. This is where drum/disc axle differs. He needs to mount a fabricated metal plate/bracket for the calipers. He also needs to cut off the back part in order to install this plate/bracket.

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the metal plates/brackets beside calipers

Also he mentioned that the hand brake cable for disc/drum are different so you need to swap that too.

enviri
07-27-2018, 05:36 PM
Second option requires minor modification to my rear axle. He mentioned that there was no mounting holes for the rear calipers. This is where drum/disc axle differs. He needs to mount a fabricated metal plate/bracket for the calipers. He also needs to cut off the back part in order to install this plate/bracket.

Also he mentioned that the hand brake cable for disc/drum are different so you need to swap that too.


this. thank you. i've been saying that for years. btw can i get that bracket? lol.

Fluxtasy
07-27-2018, 06:12 PM
this. thank you. i've been saying that for years. btw can i get that bracket? lol.

I did give it some thought, as safety is a concern so wouldn't it be better to swap the entire axle?

Runethecursed
07-27-2018, 08:37 PM
I did give it some thought, as safety is a concern so wouldn't it be better to swap the entire axle?

2200lb car with some dinky rear disc brakes. Id trust any competent welder for that.. hell we got guys with full custom set ups doing the king of the hammers challenges

XD

Fluxtasy
07-28-2018, 08:41 AM
this. thank you. i've been saying that for years. btw can i get that bracket? lol.

Enviri, I believe the above photo is the JDM conversion kit bracket so the fabricated metal bracket might look a little different. That place is out of the way from any place I would visit but I'll try to go by and take a photo of the bracket and ask the price. You gotta be patient thou.

Jerkratt
07-28-2018, 09:50 AM
I have the Runstop rear disc conversion. As SOON as I have a chance I will have the brackets sent out. Just don't have cash and the conversion is still on the car.

enviri
07-29-2018, 09:07 AM
I did give it some thought, as safety is a concern so wouldn't it be better to swap the entire axle?

oh i already did swap the entire axle lol. im all set :biggrin:

enviri
07-29-2018, 09:10 AM
2200lb car with some dinky rear disc brakes. Id trust any competent welder for that.. hell we got guys with full custom set ups doing the king of the hammers challenges

XD

dinky huh. you do know that the rears are larger in diameter than non rs brakes, with no ventilation lol.

Runethecursed
07-29-2018, 12:15 PM
dinky huh. you do know that the rears are larger in diameter than non rs brakes, with no ventilation lol.

Dink in comparison to a normal sized cars rotors, and yes the disc rears would be bigger than a non rs brake rotor.... if I were running that. I'm running Matrix front brakes right now per the swap guide. the rears are still dinky

DarkShadowFox
07-29-2018, 12:21 PM
Dink in comparison to a normal sized cars rotors, and yes the disc rears would be bigger than a non rs brake rotor.... if I were running that. I'm running Matrix front brakes right now per the swap guide. the rears are still dinky

rears are dinky even on the GRMN, its a FWD car most of your stopping power is upfront. its why the front caliper is like 10.5 and the rear is 9. something. its not like your running 600 HP and need 320 MM BREMBO 6 PISTON breaks, so the rears on a stock tuned car are fine.

suggestion because people have told me in the past, better pads. when those shit the bin, better calipers and brakes.

Fluxtasy
07-29-2018, 04:16 PM
I did swap my front discs & calipers to the JDM G grade/package. They are slightly bigger and the swap was quite straight forward.

ElMagnifico
12-05-2018, 02:18 AM
I'm considering getting a used SE hatchback axle for my sedan. where can i check the specs to verify fitment? they should be the same right?

G6-R
01-25-2020, 12:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edxgGu8YZZs

Stevengr921
08-12-2020, 12:21 AM
Could you please tell me the measurements of the disc.