View Full Version : GM gives up on Europe
scratchpaddy
03-06-2017, 09:49 PM
I just heard that General Motors has agreed to sell both its European brands, Opel and Vauxhall, to French conglomerate PSA, who own Peugeot and Citroėn. It sounds like a good move to me. GM hasn't made a profit in Europe since the past century. Here's an article with more details:
GM exits Europe with Opel-Vauxhall Sale (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-motors/2017/03/06/gm-opel-psa-sale/98783864/)
The brands we get here in the U.S. have borrowed Opel cars from time to time. Most recently, we got the Buick Cascadia, a.k.a. Opel Cascadia, a heavy convertible sure to be filling retirement communities in Florida and SoCal soon. Or at least it was, until this deal. I'm not sure what they're going to do with it now, since PSA will own the intellectual property rights. I saw one at the Phoenix car show last year. The center console gave away its heritage. Those Germans sure love buttons. :laugh:
https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/2017-Model-Year-Arizona-Auto/i-HTkRTgS/0/L/2016-11%20127-L.jpg (https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/2017-Model-Year-Arizona-Auto/i-HTkRTgS/0/O/2016-11%20127.jpg)
justanotherdrunk
03-06-2017, 11:33 PM
we had a buick/ opel encore 2 leases ago
really nice and boat anchor reliable
the wife wants another
in vegas 2014
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Death-Valley-Vegas-Arizona/i-V3PGBBQ/0/L/100_3269-L.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Death-Valley-Vegas-Arizona/i-XTFdwWr/0/L/100_3275-L.jpg
kimona
03-06-2017, 11:42 PM
^^^ I've only read good things about the Buick Encore... and Buick reliability is right up there with Toyota.
scratchpaddy
03-07-2017, 12:00 PM
I had a Monte Carlo for a while, with the Buick 3800 Series II motor, one of the best ever made. 200+hp, and I still averaged 29mpg over the time I had the car.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8bpW4pz/0/L/i-8bpW4pz-L.jpg (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8bpW4pz/0/O/i-8bpW4pz.jpg)
Those Buicks are selling like hotcakes in China. That's where GM is putting its money now.
ern-diz
03-07-2017, 12:01 PM
Interesting...
justanotherdrunk
03-08-2017, 01:04 PM
I had a Monte Carlo for a while, with the Buick 3800 Series II motor, one of the best ever made. 200+hp, and I still averaged 29mpg over the time I had the car.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8bpW4pz/0/L/i-8bpW4pz-L.jpg (https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8bpW4pz/0/O/i-8bpW4pz.jpg)
Those Buicks are selling like hotcakes in China. That's where GM is putting its money now.
what road? looks like central nevada
scratchpaddy
03-08-2017, 03:49 PM
what road? looks like central nevadaHighway 168 in California, but almost at the Nevada border. 37°25'56.1"N 117°56'56.4"W (https://www.google.com/maps/place/37%C2%B025'56.1%22N+117%C2%B056'56.4%22W/@37.4525751,-118.0698869,77803m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d37.43226!4d-117.949002). It's a fun road, if you haven't driven it before. But I bet you have. :wink:
justanotherdrunk
03-08-2017, 06:00 PM
yep i was gonna say it looks like the road to lida
just there last year
justanotherdrunk
03-08-2017, 06:08 PM
oops 2014 time flies
passed thru palmetto then the bristlecone pine forest and the new visitors center and back over tioga pass
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Death-Valley-Bristlecone/i-BvqFdTd/0/L/100_3762-L.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Death-Valley-Bristlecone/i-CtCjsF6/0/L/100_3755-L.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Death-Valley-Bristlecone/i-rw6M4zQ/0/L/100_3767-L.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Death-Valley-Bristlecone/i-5Dhd66G/0/XL/100_3774-XL.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Death-Valley-Bristlecone/i-D9fvm8G/0/XL/100_3784-XL.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Death-Valley-Bristlecone/i-PKRDFxV/0/XL/100_3789-XL.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Death-Valley-Bristlecone/i-Ws6sq8F/0/XL/100_3819-XL.jpg
scratchpaddy
03-09-2017, 03:04 PM
Awesome pictures! I think I remember that boat. :laugh:
justanotherdrunk
03-09-2017, 05:09 PM
the boat is here
it can be seen from the satellite!
36°38'37.8"N 116°24'16.3"W
and the street view
https://www.google.com/maps/place/36%C2%B038'37.8%22N+116%C2%B024'16.3%22W/@36.644729,-116.4041695,3a,60y,199.48h,86.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sU9SJdbyhaKlOk7YdcHDhPQ!2e0!7i1 3312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d36.643841!4d-116.404532
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