Not Starting 2013 Yaris Hatchback

[nate0]

Hello everyone, I just had this 2013 Hatchback Yaris for about 3weeks now with 165km no accidents. It was running good until yesterday night, on my way back from work I filled up then drove home for like 20min. An hour later, someone else in the family use it to go to grocery. It all see fine.

In the morning I tried to start it. It would start for like a second or two and stop. It would do it again if I tries to crank 2-3 times. Then it would just crank after that, will not run momentarily and die.

I tried to use the quick start spray and it would start momentarily and die.
Is this a fuel pump problem or relay?

I am trying to find the relay to swap out but could not locate it.
Can someone tell me the name I am suppose to look for please?

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When I turn the key to ON I don't hear the fuel pump. No sound from the back.
I was reading the other threads for 07 yaris they would jump the pins to manual activate the fuel.

Anyway I can do this on the 2013? Thanks

[Bluevitz-rs]

The pump will only turn on after cranking the engine. But it's much simpler to just check for power at the pump with a volt meter. Just remover the rear seat bottom and pull open the cover. You can use cheap sewing needles as pin probes.

[nate0]

Alright thanks for the good advice. I will take off the back seat sometime today and report back.

[tmontague]

How low was your fuel tank before you filled up?

[nate0]

Just a little under 1/4 left of a tank.

It's snowing outside today so I didn't took the back seat out yet.
But I did put in new Bosch plugs since it need a tuneup away. Plugs look old but clean no grease or anything. It's definitely not the battery as I tried to start it a few times normally(without quick start spray) and it start and stop.
So cranked, start for like a second and stop. Depress the gas pedal does not do anything.

[Bluevitz-rs]

Add a gallon of gas just to be 100% sure it isn't out of gas and the gauge is simply wrong.

[tmontague]

If is cranks, catches and then died withinntje next 3 seconds that is what the immobliser does when it reads an incorrect key. Something to check just to be sure

[nate0]

I hook up the innova scantool. I forgot I had this.
It does show Engine Immobiliser System Malfunction and another Startability Malfunction.

For the gas, what I mean was I filled up when it was just below the 1/4. So it full and its show that on gauge.

What can I do if it reads the key as incorrect?

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[tmontague]

Go to the dealership and get them to re program it. Or buy a techstream tool of eBay for cheap and do it yourself.

Although I'm curious As to how it suddenly stopped reading the key? What did the person do who drove your car? Could be a key issue or could be an immobilizer issue

[Dodge Aries K]

Try another key for the car. That's very odd for it to do that. Hopefully you have more than one?

[nate0]

Only have the one key :(
Dealership only option then for now as I kinda need the car. As ebay can take a while.

[tmontague]

They should at least tell you if it's the immobilizer or just an issue with the key. Tough part is they overcharge quite a bit to do something that only takes a few clicks on a computer. Albeit a computer program that costs a lot of money

[nate0]

How much does dealership usually charges to reprogram key? Never done it so just wondering in advance. Or is it better to just order a new key?

What happens if it's the immobiliser itself? It needs to be swab out?

[Dodge Aries K]

Well, the dealer will have to add a new key if your current key isn't working after the car gets towed in unfortunately. Last I checked here (for a Prius) it was $110 USD to program a new key.

If the immobilizer is bad they'll have to most likely diagnose what part failed (probably the receiver near the ignition) and replace it.

[nate0]

I am just wondering if the key had lost programming would the security blinking light keep blinking with the key in the ignition ?

Because when I had the key in the ignition, the security light goes away as it should be but just the car will not stay running.

[Dodge Aries K]

Wow, that's odd. The light should go off with the correct key inserted so that seems to be working right. I'll go check on my car to see if the light stops flashing when you insert a different key into the ignition.

[nate0]

I have not try and don't have another car key on hand.

Please check it for me. Thank you

[tmontague]

I'll post in a couple hours what my immo light does.

Mind you it isn't hooked up to my ecu but it should still act the same as the immo controls the light

[nate0]

Does anyone know how to get the techstream past the registration? V10.30.029
I was able to borrow a Mongoose MFC cable from a mechanic. He lives 2 1/2hr away so I cannot borrow his laptop. So I was able to download v10.30.029 but could not register as the download does not include the driver or activation files and key.

[tmontague]

I'm not too sure. the one of ordered came with the key I needed.

Keep in mind that the current driver version you downloaded will only work on a 32 bit OS (windows 7 32 bit and older) so if you have it on a newer computer it will not communicate with the car. To get a techstream to work on a 64 bit OS you have to buy a newer one on ebay and the cost goes up a little bit.

[nate0]

Yeah I have 64bit and having trouble getting the driver install correctly. Tried a few workaround for 64bit but no luck. Will have to use VMware to run an older OS and see how it goes.

I was able to activate the software but it forces me to update if I am connected to the net.
I don't know if your is doing the same? What version do you have?