3rd gen SE and LE gauge cluster swap?

[m.flores.0928]

Hey guys, I know the SE model Yaris comes with a tach, and I noticed it looks incredibly similar to the L and LE model Yaris that doesn't have a tach. Do you guys think that swapping in an SE model gauge cluster would be a solid way to get a tach?

I removed the gauge cluster on my car (2014 LE model) and looked at the connector, and noticed a few blank ports where some wires could go, I fear that in order for the gauge swap to work that the SE model has some wires that the LE does not.

If anyone has any insight on this, let us know! If it turns out it works, that would be a pretty nice mod to have, Im sure I wouldnt be the only one who would enjoy this. Thanks!

(If a similar inquiry was made in the past, I apologize for repeating it, I haven't seen anything about this)

[KenTK808]

It plugs right in and works fine. The mileage will be different, you just gotta keep tabs on it.

[m.flores.0928]

It plugs right in and works fine. The mileage will be different, you just gotta keep tabs on it.



How is the mileage any different?


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[hotracer_05]

If the mileage gets stored in the cluster vs the car computer the milage will need to get reprogrammed. Also my L has a tach

[Dodge Aries K]

The stick shift L models got tachs for the 12-16 but auto match equipped L and LE didn't.

[m.flores.0928]

If the mileage gets stored in the cluster vs the car computer the milage will need to get reprogrammed. Also my L has a tach

hey, I remember you! You're the one with the Tundra too, I commented on another thread about your yellow accents and whatnot. Good to see you here.

Hmm, yours is a manual, perhaps you only get a tach with a manual trans regardless of trim spec? I know the SE comes standard with a tach, because I've driven manual and auto SE models, all with a tach.

Anyway, good to know. Any idea how to reprogram the (replacement) cluster if need be?

[toad]

The stick shift L models got tachs for the 12-16 but auto match equipped L and LE didn't.

That must be new. My '01 Echo is a manual and just has the speedometer, fuel gauge, odometer, and warning lights. Heck, even my '08 Yaris had the same basic gauge cluster(no tach) and it was a stick too!

Honestly, I don't think I really need to see the revs for shifting. I've just gotten used to it not being there.

[NYC-SE]

If the mileage gets stored in the cluster vs the car computer the milage will need to get reprogrammed. Also my L has a tach

If I recall correctly CTScott used to reprogram gauge clusters. You might want to contact him and inquire.

[m.flores.0928]

If I recall correctly CTScott used to reprogram gauge clusters. You might want to contact him and inquire.

nice, thanks!

[CrankyOldMan]

The discrepancy in the mileage is only an issue if your state has regulations on odometer disclosure. In Michigan you have to disclose that it's not the actual mileage, but not what the actual mileage is. Otherwise it's just something to be aware of for maintenance and service intervals.

[m.flores.0928]

The discrepancy in the mileage is only an issue if your state has regulations on odometer disclosure. In Michigan you have to disclose that it's not the actual mileage, but not what the actual mileage is. Otherwise it's just something to be aware of for maintenance and service intervals.



So that means mileage is stored in the gauge cluster and not the body ECU? What else is stored in it?


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[m.flores.0928]

And does this mean it's plug and play and it would work well enough?


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[hotracer_05]

hey, I remember you! You're the one with the Tundra too, I commented on another thread about your yellow accents and whatnot. Good to see you here.

Hmm, yours is a manual, perhaps you only get a tach with a manual trans regardless of trim spec? I know the SE comes standard with a tach, because I've driven manual and auto SE models, all with a tach.

Anyway, good to know. Any idea how to reprogram the (replacement) cluster if need be?

Yup thats me! Yeah I would imagine its plug and play. I dont think changing the mileage on those is something you can do at home, but not 100% sure. I know a guy around here would charge me 100 bucks to do it on my tundra ( i have a cluster out of a limited)

[m.flores.0928]

Yup thats me! Yeah I would imagine its plug and play. I dont think changing the mileage on those is something you can do at home, but not 100% sure. I know a guy around here would charge me 100 bucks to do it on my tundra ( i have a cluster out of a limited)



Would a dealership do that sorta thing?


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[CrankyOldMan]

So that means mileage is stored in the gauge cluster and not the body ECU? What else is stored in it?
Nothing, that I'm aware of, except maybe the oil change mileage?
And does this mean it's plug and play and it would work well enough?
Someone would have to double check the connectors and the pinouts, but it may be compatible.

[m.flores.0928]

Nothing, that I'm aware of, except maybe the oil change mileage?



Someone would have to double check the connectors and the pinouts, but it may be compatible.



Thanks! I can look at my car but I can't do much without comparing to an SE, so if anyone has a 3rd gen SE I would love to know what the connector situation looks like on the back of the gauge cluster


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[stykerdk]

Here is some pics of the backside.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-2017-Mk3-TOYOTA-YARIS-Petrol-Speedometer-Clock-Cluster-83800-0DP80-877-/272554452128?hash=item3f7582e4a0:g:lLcAAOSwx6pYoC0 K&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Yaris-Instrument-Cluster-83800-0DQ90-MPH-Petrol-MK3-/122216801187?hash=item1c74b063a3:g:XxEAAOSwcUBYIdN U
http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOYOTA-YARIS-III-TACHO-SPEEDOMETER-COMPTEUR-83800-0U270-MB157560-7573-/322462229593?hash=item4b143f2459:g:yYIAAOSwXYtY1Ue w
There is another in Here who has put in a cluster with km/h , it works in a car born with mph cluster.
But shows km.

[hotracer_05]

Would a dealership do that sorta thing?


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yes, they will keep it parked there until it is changed. so usually you cant bring it in on its own, you have to take the whole car

[m.flores.0928]

yes, they will keep it parked there until it is changed. so usually you cant bring it in on its own, you have to take the whole car

Im not sure I understand that. So I would bring my car to a toyota dealer with the new gauges already installed? That's what I intended if that's the case.

[hotracer_05]

Im not sure I understand that. So I would bring my car to a toyota dealer with the new gauges already installed? That's what I intended if that's the case.

No, so you bring your gauges and they install them. They usually wont do it another way because they want to confirm the mileage isn't tampered with

[m.flores.0928]

No, so you bring your gauges and they install them. They usually wont do it another way because they want to confirm the mileage isn't tampered with



Oh I see that makes more sense. I'll call their service and see how willing they are. It's hit and miss around here on modifying cars. Old cranky techs around here don't like "working on the cars the kids have", no joke, I've worked at some dealerships around here like that. They're no fun.

That's very cool though that all this may work out!


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[scratchpaddy]

I think a dealer would be reluctant to install a part you bring in yourself. They'd want to order it for you, for a big markup, then program and install it for you, for $$$$. And that's only if they're not upset that it's not the same type of cluster that came with the car.

Best of luck, though. I'm eager to hear what you find out.

[m.flores.0928]

I think a dealer would be reluctant to install a part you bring in yourself. They'd want to order it for you, for a big markup, then program and install it for you, for $$$$. And that's only if they're not upset that it's not the same type of cluster that came with the car.

Best of luck, though. I'm eager to hear what you find out.



Disclaimer: it won't be for a while, need to save for parts, etc, but I will post here when I'm ready to pull the trigger.


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[Zerone]

Hi everyone,

I'm new here, but have been doing a number of cluster conversions on different models for a long time.

With Toyota models the cluster odometer readings are stored in the cluster via an EEPROM.

The good news with Toyota Clusters (Unlike other models), is there are no vehicle specific programming required for cluster swaps.
(Eg Late Model GM and Ford models require VIN Code matching, Engine, Transmission, Option code matching, etc)....

Having a quick look at my 2012 YR Yaris cluster programming, the only configurable programmable bits seem to be Metric/Imperial Options (For Trip Computer display. Eg Km/Hr, Mph, Miles per Gallon, Litres per 100Km, etc)....

Soooo, to swap clusters on a 3rd Gen Yaris (Non Tacho to Tacho version for example), all that theoretically would be required is to copy the EEPROM data from the original cluster, to the new cluster. (Which would copy ODO reading, as well as the above programming setting)....

To do this, you will need,
1) An EEPROM programmer suitable for the EEPROM type. (Cost can range from tens to hundreds of Dollars/Euros/Pounds
2) A 3M SOP to DIP adapter clip (If you do not want to desolder the EEPROM from the cluster board), or a standard SOP Adaptor.
3) A little time / patience and some alcoholic beverage...

I just recently purchased my Yaris as a second car, and Im looking at playing around with a couple of things with it...
One such think I am toying with the idea of swapping the Cluster board and LCD with a Toyota Corolla 2012 Cluster. (To give me a temp gauge, and some other nice stuff)...

These clusters are as cheap as chips in Australia ($100 AUD) and are very common.
The cluster case is physically larger, but some of the parts are interchangeable...

Anyways, hope this info helps someone. :)
If anyone wants more information about cluster EEPROM programming let me know.
I have a GM/Chev/Holden Website with lots of information about this sort of stuff..

(Not linking to it as a sign of respect to the moderators / site owners, as this may breach their website linking rules)