Actual Spare Wheel - question

[funky2nite]

Am thinking of putting in an actual space saver spare wheel, instead of the puncture kit that came with the hybrid.

Thing is, am only finding space saver 14inch ones, whilst mine come with 15inchers. Is it a No-Go, should I still get a 14inch stepney?

Thanks for your feedback.

Ian - Malta

[WeeYari]

Doesn't matter what the OE actual wheel sizing is, the space savers are always smaller. 14" is what you want.

[funky2nite]

Doesn't matter what the OE actual wheel sizing is, the space savers are always smaller. 14" is what you want.

Thanka mate, how very much appreciated. And what a fabulous place to come to to have a clarified opinion/advice.


Thanks every one.

[kevinj93]

Doesn't matter what the OE actual wheel sizing is, the space savers are always smaller. 14" is what you want.

We must be different here "down under". Our space saver spare is a 16x4 wheel with a 125/70x16 tyre. it's recommended inflation pressure is 60 PSI.

[funky2nite]

We must be different here "down under". Our space saver spare is a 16x4 wheel with a 125/70x16 tyre. it's recommended inflation pressure is 60 PSI.

Huh..?

[kevinj93]

That's what we get as a spare. It's a "space saver" - 16x4 rim with a 125/70x16 tyre.

The base model has the 2NZ-FE and until recently had 14 inch wheels with 175/70x14 tyres, and the upmarket models have the 1NZ-FE wrih 15 inch wheels and 175/65x15 tyres. Both get the same size spare, which is marked as being speed limited to 80 km/h (50mph).

The spare is recommended to only be used on the rear, so if you get a flat front,vyou are supposed to swap a rear tyre to the front, and put the spare on the back.

[funky2nite]

That's what we get as a spare. It's a "space saver" - 16x4 rim with a 125/70x16 tyre.

The base model has the 2NZ-FE and until recently had 14 inch wheels with 175/70x14 tyres, and the upmarket models have the 1NZ-FE wrih 15 inch wheels and 175/65x15 tyres. Both get the same size spare, which is marked as being speed limited to 80 km/h (50mph).

The spare is recommended to only be used on the rear, so if you get a flat front,vyou are supposed to swap a rear tyre to the front, and put the spare on the back.

Then if I'm understanding you guys well, 14" can still be fitted on 15", and as you're saying, in a smart approach, said space save wheel should ideally be fitted on the rear ones only, seeing ours are FWD.

[kevinj93]

Yes, but....

The narrow space saver will have less grip. This could be aproblem on the driving wheels. The differnece in diameter can also affect the anti lock brakes It's basically an emergency measure to get you to the nearest tyre shop.

[IllusionX]

Let me check mine out. There shouldn't me diameter difference

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[dogsridewith]

2007 manual lists 14 and 15 inch stock tire sizes...only one size skinny spare.

[Bluevitz-rs]

It doesn't matter what size a spare tire is, as long as it fits over the brakes it'll work.

And it's never recommended to have a space saver temporary spare tire on the front as those tires are used for most of your stopping grip and steering.

[stykerdk]

And i think a 14" won´t fit if you have disc brakes at the rear end.
Because you cant use 14" normal rims with rear disc brakes, this is because the rear disc has a bigger diameter than the front end disc´s.
And all hybrids have rear disc brakes son dont bet on a 14" spare wheel

[WeeYari]

Now I have to check mine when I get a chance. I could have sworn my factory donut is on a tiny 14" wheel.

My apologies in advance if I was mistaken.

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[scratchpaddy]

The spare on my 2009 is a Toyo T125/70D15, which seems like a pretty common size for space-savers.

[mrpj]

Well, just to be different!
My factory tyres are 15" and my spacesaver is 16".:iono:
It's actually on the car at the moment, I'm having a new tyre fitted but the place who were fitting it damaged the alloy wheel.:mad:
Fortunatly the car is not needed until today, when the wheel should be repaired, by them at no cost.
At least they admitted to damaging the wheel before I noticed - a slight gouge in one of the spokes.

[dogsridewith]

That is very interesting. I noted extra space around the skinny spare...why not have something with the same rolling diameter as the service tires? (And put spare on rear of these front heavy cars...save motion in the differential.)

[mrpj]

Just out of curiosity, when refitting the "proper" wheel and new tyre, I measured the overall diameter of the 16" spacesaver and the 15" o.e.m. wheel and tyre.
Both are 23.5". So exactly the same rolling diameter for both.

[funky2nite]

And i think a 14" won´t fit if you have disc brakes at the rear end.
Because you cant use 14" normal rims with rear disc brakes, this is because the rear disc has a bigger diameter than the front end disc´s.
And all hybrids have rear disc brakes son dont bet on a 14" spare wheel

You were so right mate. Thanks to you i saved some $$. I just headed downtown to meet a guy that had a spare toyota space saver 14", and i was without the yaris for the past couple of days so I couldnt try fitting it..even though the guy kept saying it should fit as it fits all toyotas....finally i got the car, met up, tried fitting it and disc brake just doesnt let you. The caliper get s in the way.

Concluaion, either full size toyota wheel. Mine's 15" but i dont think its easy to aource locally just one..or try a 15/16" spacesaver maybe that'll fit.

Thanks again man for the heada up as at timea i suspected the guy might sell it and was thi kig to myswlf let me just go buy it it should fit.

[hotracer_05]

I managed to fit a full size spare in the back of my 2012 Hatch, but the hybrids might have a different size
One of the original tires was in decent shape, and since i bought the car without a spare i decided to just use it (not a fan of doughnuts anyways). The full size tire wont fit where the old spare goes without removing the riser piece on the top. This is tac welded to the car, so before doing this you need to make sure you don't have any emotional attachments to that doughnut. I simple took a big hammer and beat it out...but you can definitely grind away the tac welds. then simply fill the holes in and ta da! full size spare room

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj175/hotracer_05/Sushi%20the%20Yaris/13B3F7FC-4B87-4A09-AE0C-DC226225141D_zpsd3p3bw8m.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj175/hotracer_05/Sushi%20the%20Yaris/A9AE616D-C551-4B49-9FAE-DC47CBF44936_zpsai9etxda.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj175/hotracer_05/Sushi%20the%20Yaris/471FADA9-CBD5-431F-8F13-03C4AEAD582F_zpsjfrnevkv.jpg

[hotracer_05]

its a 15" wheel, tire is a 175/65r15 i believe

[dogsridewith]

! I've puzzled over that thing...what it does and how to remove (for flat seat-deleted floor when 14" mini-spare goes on the front "bumper." )Did you hit a chisel between it and the pan where the spot welds are? Or just wack the riser itself? The holes shown in photos result, w/ no drilling involved?

[hotracer_05]

I would recommend a Chisel...but i didn't have one in my hand so i just whacked and patched after lol. The holes are where the welds where. I didn't drill them out

[dogsridewith]

Might work w/ a ball-ish stone in a die grinder working down through just the riser piece at the spot welds. Then should be easy to knock it off and clean up pan w/ no holes?
(prolly easier than removing wheel cover anti-rotate keys on wheels that are never going to see a full cover...my Yaris doesn't have, but circa 1990 Miata and Corolla do.)

[hotracer_05]

Might work w/ a ball-ish stone in a die grinder working down through just the riser piece at the spot welds. Then should be easy to knock it off and clean up pan w/ no holes?
(prolly easier than removing wheel cover anti-rotate keys on wheels that are never going to see a full cover...my Yaris doesn't have, but circa 1990 Miata and Corolla do.)

It could, i filled the holes in after and sprayed the whole spare tire well with rubber coating

[funky2nite]

As a quick update, i tracked down a 15inch full size wheel. I think it belonged to an older peugeot. It did it fit in the boot, yey since its not a space saver it atuck a bit higher up than the wheel hole so i lost some luggage space..but space saver wheels i found didn't fit due to hybrid having disc brakes on the rear. http://imgur.com/a/s4TPY

[funky2nite]

I did notice that the bit you guys had to grind off/remove seemed missing already in mine.
http://imgur.com/a/Jo2ul

[Yaris709]

I use a full size spare tire. Bit larger than a dummy tire but if I get a flat I can just throw it on and go with no worries.

[funky2nite]

I use a full size spare tire. Bit larger than a dummy tire but if I get a flat I can just throw it on and go with no worries.

Good stuff, but its either the tire size i picked or dunno cos fromwhat ive. Read through other posts no one mentioned losing vertical space when fitting full sizw wheel. That isnt a plus with me, in fact i ended up removing thr parcel shelf

[dogsridewith]

Might work w/ a ball-ish stone in a die grinder working down through just the riser piece at the spot welds. Then should be easy to knock it off and clean up pan w/ no holes?
(prolly easier than removing wheel cover anti-rotate keys on wheels that are never going to see a full cover...my Yaris doesn't have, but circa 1990 Miata and Corolla do.)
Re-considering, I might first try through-drilling the spot welds w/ a 3/16 bit so that if it then chisels off cleanly, the tower can be easily re-installed with pop-rivets. Noting not to let the drill go deeper than required to get through the sheet metal...there's car parts under there.
(Wouldn't happen until the mini-spare is on the front "bumper")

[DarkShadowFox]

COOL now time to do this. good thing the entire car is some form of steel. and not aluminum.