Give me opinion on coilovers

[rabbito]

I have performance shock and struts, of course their not adjustable...they are stiff of course with 2" drop...
will coilovers be different than performance shocks strut other than adjusting heights and control soft - hard?
i was trying to purchase set of coilovers and some of the people i know said it should be almost no difference since you got performance shock and springs

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[tmontague]

I've only ran performance struts and could but from reading many forums of others whom have done both the consensus seems that a good quality set of struts and could will out perform a poor or mediocre set of coil overs.

Most people say if you want the adjustment then get co's but you need to pay to play. Usually above $1k is where you get the decent quality co's.

Armstrong was running to kill blues and micro image springs. He'll be running some BC co's Nina few weeks so watch out for his review as that will be a great compassion

[WeeYari]

go kill blues

Nice! Gotta love spell check.

Good spring/shock/strut combo all the way. Quality coilovers are way too expensive for what the average person requires.

[tmontague]

My fat fingers hit every Damn key...

But I agree, $1200USD and up is a very steep price to pay unless you track your yaris and need it corner balanced/constantly need to adjust height and dampening

Tried and true bilstein b8's can be bought off eBay for less than $400 USD and there are a plethora of great lowering springs for our car

[ilikerice]

Koni makes adjustable shocks.. That would be your cheapest option if you like your current ride height.

I wouldn't do coilovers unless you want ride height adjustments. Bilsteins are a great shock also.

I ran Megan Racing coil overs.. I wanted the shock dampening feature as well as height adjustments

[3cyltrbo]

I've got a coilover setup on mine that would be about $2k in todays market if they were still available, which is admittedly a little bit on the expensive side (almost 1/5th the total price of my car when new)

However......

I love them for the almost infinite range of ride height adjustability and tuning capability

[thebarber]

i had megan coilovers on my liftback...they were FIRM for DD-ing on rough streets. were great on the track/auto-x though.

[Thirty-Nine]

I am running Tein S-Tech springs and Tokico Blues. Love the combo. I used to have Megan Racing coils and did not like them; far too stiff for daily driving. (Great on a track)

Once my Blues need to be replaced ( probably have 60,000 miles on them), I'm not sure what I'll go with. It looks like Koni goes up to 2005 Yaris/Vitz. Bilsteins are pretty pricey. Allegedly there's a company called Stagg that offers Yaris shocks/struts, too.

http://staggshocks.com/Stagg%20AG/Stagg%20AG%2007-11%20Toyota%20Yaris.html
All four for $128?!?!? http://brandcarparts.com/2006-2012-toyota-yaris-stagg-full-set-shocks-and-struts-4.html

Looks like TRD stuff can be had on eBay for about $489 for all four, too.

[NYC-SE]

Allegedly there's a company called Stagg that offers Yaris shocks/struts, too.

http://staggshocks.com/Stagg%20AG/Stagg%20AG%2007-11%20Toyota%20Yaris.html
All four for $128?!?!? http://brandcarparts.com/2006-2012-toyota-yaris-stagg-full-set-shocks-and-struts-4.html


$128! Wow! Seems too good to be true, but then again I have never heard of Stagg. Anybody here actually use these?

[invader166]

$128! Wow! Seems too good to be true, but then again I have never heard of Stagg. Anybody here actually use these?

I have a set that i'm planning on installing this summer with a set of Microimage springs.:thumbsup:

[NYC-SE]

I have a set that i'm planning on installing this summer with a set of Microimage springs.:thumbsup:

Cool. Interested in hearing how they perform.

[Thirty-Nine]

Cool. Interested in hearing how they perform.

That makes two of us!

[ArmstrongRacing]

I've only ran performance struts and could but from reading many forums of others whom have done both the consensus seems that a good quality set of struts and could will out perform a poor or mediocre set of coil overs.

Most people say if you want the adjustment then get co's but you need to pay to play. Usually above $1k is where you get the decent quality co's.

Armstrong was running to kill blues and micro image springs. He'll be running some BC co's Nina few weeks so watch out for his review as that will be a great compassion
I loved the Tokico Blues and MI springs from the moment I installed them. I raced on them for 3 years and they are great, but now I'm on Rcomps and the body roll is getting insane.

I ordered a custom set of BC DR coilovers, it will take then 2-4 weeks to build them and they were well over $1000

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[ilikerice]

After racing for awhile, I have noticed many drivers who tune their suspension will mix and match setups by swapping different spring rates with different companies front and rear. Nothing beats a well designed shock though. Many racers love the Bilstiens for the customization and rebuild kits they offer. It depends on how much you like to "fine tune" a cars suspension

[ArmstrongRacing]

I will likely do the same eventually, but for now I'll just be testing what BC sends me. I've gotta compensate for the weight reduction then dial in on spring rates accordingly
After racing for awhile, I have noticed many drivers who tune their suspension will mix and match setups by swapping different spring rates with different companies front and rear. Nothing beats a well designed shock though. Many racers love the Bilstiens for the customization and rebuild kits they offer. It depends on how much you like to "fine tune" a cars suspension


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[alias06]

It depends on what you are looking to improve on when doing any mod. Coilovers won't necessarily help you go faster in a straight line if that is what you are looking for, and as many of the others have said, it will cost more to get a proper setup with coilovers but it will also improve handling.

[heeroyuy01195]

Been on my Megan Coilovers since 2011, absolutely love them (surprisingly). The F2's on my MR2...absolutely hate them...Will be switching the MR2 to AMR coilovers.

The stiffness/harshness of the ride will depend on the spring and the low speed damper valving in the shock. Tuning is limited on most coilovers I see for the Yaris but generally with my cars (and bikes) I match the springs to the weight of the car (or bike) and intended driving then, I adjust the damper accordingly (Megan's allow for some damper adjustment). With the Megans, the spring rates were good for my driving style and my uses so I didn't have to change anything around.

The MR2's F2 coilovers (same as D2), the damper on those are rubbish and I played with many spring rates and damper settings and couldn't get the car to perform how I wanted. The dampers just didn't rebound the way I wanted and overall they felt mushy even with slightly stiffer springs (too stiff and you lose traction). But for just lowering and daily puttzing around, the F2's were good at that.

[heeroyuy01195]

It depends on what you are looking to improve on when doing any mod. Coilovers won't necessarily help you go faster in a straight line if that is what you are looking for, and as many of the others have said, it will cost more to get a proper setup with coilovers but it will also improve handling.

Coilovers can help with straight line drag racing. Depending on how they're setup, you can improve your traction on launch and reduce "bob" while shifting gears which keeps the wheels planted so more power to the pavement:burnrubber:. Minimal improvement on an underpowered car like the Yaris but milliseconds count.

[alias06]

Coilovers can help with straight line drag racing. Depending on how they're setup, you can improve your traction on launch and reduce "bob" while shifting gears which keeps the wheels planted so more power to the pavement:burnrubber:. Minimal improvement on an underpowered car like the Yaris but milliseconds count.

Yes a well set-up suspension can help anywhere, but switching from a good spring/strut combo to an off-the-shelf setup isn't going to make a huge difference.

[ccyaris]

Installed KYB AJX, good range settings 1-5, keep it on 1 for daily driving, and won’t shake out your dentures.

[JimKellyfan]

I wanted coil overs in a way, but because I tow and carry weight sometimes, went with the stiffer (and taller) springs, the Mexican rough road from Yota. I also put the TRD struts n shocks, n changed the sway bar end links while apart.
Handles great and is everything I wanted and one thing I didn't want, high speed lift. Over 85 mph, the front took me a few months to get used to, as the raising of the center of gravity made it handle differently, and lift at higher speeds. I think I can counter this with a custom lower sitting front lip, but try and not hang out at the high speeds unless I have drift space. After driving a couple months, I seemed to have gotten used to the new way it handles, and if I didn't tow anything, would have just went with TRD lowering springs.
Of course I wanted the dual adjustable coil overs, but couldn't justify the expense as I don't race it on a circuit, just A to B and the fun.
Ideally, I would have just changed rear shocks and went with stiffer spring rates same height, but no one makes that unless custom, also higher dollar than wanted.
In the end, because of towing or weight carrying, my mix is good for me and I am happy overall.