Yaris Vs Fit - guessed who won ?

[nurburgring]

I did a drag race with a friend today.

Yaris 1.5 VVTi automatic vs Honda Fit/Jazz 1.5 VTEC CVT box .

Both stock.

Guessed who won ?

Initially... 0-30mph, neck and neck , Yaris edging slightly . 30mph onwards, no fight, the Fit took off, from 6 feet behind, it surged to a car length in front by 60mph. :cool:

I tried 2 runs, same results.

I like the quality of the Fit better too. It was much much much smoother. But the yaris had a better steering feel. Handling wise, the yaris felt like it turned alot easier.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

the Fit does have a slightly powerful motor, but really? wow...

[eTiMaGo]

It's got VTEC, yo!

Probably had a few extra stickers too, that must have helped :biggrin:

[cleong]

Your 16 inch wheels were the cause of the 1 length loss...... :P

[Elroy]

maybe it was the driver? lol

[nsmitchell]

Actually what gave the Fit the advantage was the CVT transmission. I had one (Civic HX CVT) and it was slow off the line but right around 30-40MPH that thing would start kicking ass. Thats because it has reached the max torque RPMs and the CVT is changing gear ratios continuously to go faster, where all 5 speeds and autos need to shift gears back below the max torque range. Really bizarre that you are flooring a car and the RPMs stop at around 5500 but the car just keeps accelerating faster and faster. Strange but true. I wish they could make really strong CVT trannys for High HP engines. That would rock!

We don't have the CVT Fits over here in the US of A, so we can kick thier asses... I think.

[ChinoCharles]

Thats what you get for driving a slushbox.

[kurokoma-kun]

Thats what you get for driving a slushbox.

:clap: :bellyroll: :clap:

I test drove auto and there was big diff to manaul IMO

[eTiMaGo]

Actually what gave the Fit the advantage was the CVT transmission. I had one (Civic HX CVT) and it was slow off the line but right around 30-40MPH that thing would start kicking ass. Thats because it has reached the max torque RPMs and the CVT is changing gear ratios continuously to go faster, where all 5 speeds and autos need to shift gears back below the max torque range. Really bizarre that you are flooring a car and the RPMs stop at around 5500 but the car just keeps accelerating faster and faster. Strange but true. I wish they could make really strong CVT trannys for High HP engines. That would rock!

We don't have the CVT Fits over here in the US of A, so we can kick thier asses... I think.

Very true... and guess what? In Japan they have a CVT option for the Yaris... yeay...

[cleong]

It would be interesting to pit a manual Fit/Jazz 1.5 VTEC with a Yaris 1.5..... has anyone done it?

[lostmind]

I test drove both the auto and standard yaris... couldn't tell much of a difference on either one... but then again, I think the fit with CVT would beat a good driver in a standard yaris even. The CVT tranny makes a big difference in the butt dyno with these little cars, I've driven a few in Japan.

[eTiMaGo]

It would be interesting to pit a manual Fit/Jazz 1.5 VTEC with a Yaris 1.5..... has anyone done it?

almost... My mom has a Honda City (aka Fit Aria in Japan, essentially a Fit sedan), manual. It doesn't have the VTEC engine, though, so I can't compare that exactly.

But one thing I have to say, the gearbox on the Honda is waaaay nicer than ours... The shifter is very short, and goes into each gear very easily yet solidly.

Heh maybe someday I'll get a friend to rent a manual Fit and we can do some more extensive research :biggrin:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

heh, that'll be cool.

[marcus]

hmm yaris is .5 sec faster that the fit.. atleast based on test runs. and on 0-60 m/h ( car and driver mags)

[CASTREX]

no fight, the Fit took off, from 6 feet behind, it surged to a car length in front by 60mph. :cool:




This is sad day for the YARIS.


Some one has to do something about it!:headbang:

[Black Yaris]

every # I have ever seen puts the Yaris at a faster 0-60 than the Fit

[boris13]

A manual trans Yaris would have done much better. Automatics = less usable power and inferior MPG.

[Astroman]

A manual trans Yaris would have done much better. Automatics = less usable power and inferior MPG.

1mpg hwy is inferior??:iono:

[SeriousBlack]

Yaris Brothers Unite - I'll gladly give up the car length to drive something that doesn't look like a Ford Aerostar dropped in a clothes dryer for too long - lol.:biggrin:

[marcus]

here!!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/compact/112_0608_economy_car_comparison/specs.html

[BlueLiftback]

The Fit is in all actuality a tad bit faster. The difference in 60 times is due to the Yaris being able to hold 2nd gear while the Fit has to shift to 3rd.

In all seriousness, it's comparable to those weiner dog races (stock at least). It's amusing to watch, and no one reallly cares who wins...

I love my car, but it IS WHAT IT IS. If I wanted a runner I'd have bought an S2000 or something =)

[brickhardmeat]

FiT is for GIRLS.

[death is my gift]

FiT is for GIRLS.

hey!

[HTM Yaris]

Don't worry , I suckered a couple of Fits to invite me to the Dragon . I played stupid . " What the hell is the Dragon" I said . They both shook their heads and said come with us and find out ....... GAME ON :headbang:

[PetersRedYaris]

saw a fit on freeway with 4 persons in there today,
Driver is a guy, and the rest is girls. Look totally mods. Muffler make some bad ass sound too. It's was doing 55 mph on freeway or 60.
So i slowe down, trying to race. I never got a change to race with a fit before (so here is my time)
We both rev our engine, we both took off, my yaris hit 80 in less than 5 seconds, the fit is totally 100 feets fall back of my car. I guess i won. So
I'm trying to slow down to say bye and be nice, but all i got was a middle finger for me.
Fuck Koreans.

Seriously, your comparing yourslf in your Yaris to a Fit with 4 adults. Think maybe the extra weight made the difference? :rolleyes: I can tell the difference between myself and one passenger, let alone three.

[eTiMaGo]

unless Jamal actually weighs as much as 4 people! :biggrin:

[Pavel Olavich]

saw a fit on freeway with 4 persons in there today,
Driver is a guy, and the rest is girls. Look totally mods. Muffler make some bad ass sound too. It's was doing 55 mph on freeway or 60.
So i slowe down, trying to race. I never got a change to race with a fit before (so here is my time)
We both rev our engine, we both took off, my yaris hit 80 in less than 5 seconds, the fit is totally 100 feets fall back of my car. I guess i won. So
I'm trying to slow down to say bye and be nice, but all i got was a middle finger for me.
Fuck Koreans.

You must be an idiot for dis'ing Koreans...you're stupid!

[grampi]

Try the same drag race with a 5 speed Yaris. The result will be much different (that is if the driver knows how to drive a manual). The 5 speed Yaris is considerably quicker than the auto.

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[brickhardmeat]

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[CASTREX]

Is there anything not love about koreans?????????

Edit: Sorry, out of topic..... I know!

[Black Yaris]

http://www.mercadolibre.com.ve/jm/img?s=MLV&f=5270096_1830.jpg&v=PKorean
http://arabam.e-kolay.net/fuar/2005/cenevre/kia_rio.jpgKorean
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[brickhardmeat]

They make a mean Summer Roll. yummy

Those are some great examples Black Yaris.

[CASTREX]

Damm... :redface:

[Yaris Revenge]

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LOL! And a +1 armor bonus against Moderator's Axe of Banishment! :laugh:

Don't be knockin' the Korean cars! Hyundai's been putting some really nice-looking stuff out lately. The Japanese have had their fair share of bad car designs as well. Pretty much everything from the 80's was fugly (minus the CRX and the Celica). Let's not forget these not-so-distant offerings from Toyota!

http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2002/Toyota/100003119/2002.toyota.echo.10254-396x249.jpghttp://www.theautochannel.com/news/2003/02/26/156024.1-lg.jpg


CASTREX, the chick in pink is freakin' HOT! :drool:

~YR

[Black Yaris]

The Japanese have had their fair share of bad car designs as well. Pretty much everything from the 80's was fugly

~YR

I think just about Everything Japanese or not from the 80's was ugly, clothes, cars, you name it... what the hell were they thinkin?

cosmetics aside, I have never been a fan of the unreliable Korean car, but they are not at the top of my list of cars I would never buy... then again a unreliable car means job security for mechanics

[grampi]

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http://www.avproecm.com/images/1992%20Hyundai%20STD%20Sedan.jpgKorean

Gag me with a spoon!

[Katana]

How many bhp does Fit have?

[sdmf]

koreans put out hehehe

[ECHOKnight2000]

How many bhp does Fit have?

109bhp and 105ft torque, from my understanding. It does wiegh more than the Yaris, but not by much. But Yaris FTW:thumbsup:

[Katana]

109bhp and 105ft torque, from my understanding. It does wiegh more than the Yaris, but not by much. But Yaris FTW:thumbsup:

Τhanks!:headbang:

[forpinks]

DAMN ELECTRONIC LIFT!

Yeah the Fit will win because of the VTEC and the CVT because it doesn't shift and lose .5seconds off the acceleration and the VTEC gives it lift at around 4K -REDline!

But still the Fit is fuggin slow at below 4K RPM.

You should have raced him on tight corners and alleys that 1 inch difference is the life and death of the race! THEN THE YARIS (or Fortwo) is/are KING(s)!!!

Yaris is "precision" driving wise...:thumbup:

(I just found a $10,800 new Yaris and I might buy it next month!:biggrin: )

[YarisPR]

I did get to run with a Fit(manual transmision) vs Yaris Sedan(M/T and on 18's) and I beat him 4 times 2 time heads up from 0 mph and 2 from 1st gear from 15mph. I don't know but he felt back as soon as my car hit 5000rpm and the vvti kicked in on 2nd. He then felt back and back and we ran up to 85 mph and he couldn't keep up. :biggrin:

Well thats my expirience with a fit. I'am still hunting down a Suzuki SX4 (I see him every thursday night (day of street racing where I live) to see how much he pulls off but he allways is goin in the opposite direction :thumbdown:

[grampi]

You guys do know the VVTI is used throughout the entire RPM range at all throttle settings and not just at a certain RPM or throttle setting, right? It doesn't "kick in," it's working all the time.

[brickhardmeat]

You guys do know the VVTI is used throughout the entire RPM range at all throttle settings and not just at a certain RPM or throttle setting, right? It doesn't "kick in," it's working all the time.

Actually I didn't konw that and that wasn't the way the salesman explained it to me however I haven't done any research on the subject. Interesting:smile:

[grampi]

The "I" in VVTI stands for intuitive. This means the computer continuously adjusts (retards or advances) the ignition timing at all throttle settings and RPMs to maintain optimum engine performance and efficiency. A lot of people think it only works at full throttle and only at high RPMs. This is true of many of the older VVT engines, but not the VVTI engines. The intuitive part is very nifty. Keep in mind, salesmen typically know more about sales than they do about what they're selling ;0)

[brickhardmeat]

The "I" in VVTI stands for intuitive. This means the computer continuously adjusts (retards or advances) the ignition timing at all throttle settings and RPMs to maintain optimum engine performance and efficiency. A lot of people think it only works at full throttle and only at high RPMs. This is true of many of the older VVT engines, but not the VVTI engines. The intuitive part is very nifty. Keep in mind, salesmen typically know more about sales than they do about what they're selling ;0)

You said RETARDS:laugh:

[eTiMaGo]

The i officially stands for "Intelligence", but close enough :smile:

Variable Valve Timing with intelligence...

[Pars]

The CVT wouldn't stand a chance against a manual equipped Yaris.

The Fit most have a good CVT system if it can out gun the auto Yaris. An interesting side... the base Mini Cooper could be had with a CVT or a regular automatic transmission. The regular slush-box in that car was actually quicker then CVT model...

[grampi]

The i officially stands for "Intelligence", but close enough :smile:

Variable Valve Timing with intelligence...

Yes, it is intelligence. Thanks for the correction. However, my explination of how it works was accurate.

[YarisPR]

Nice info :thumbsup: But I just really don't feel anything until 5000rpm thats why I stated it that way

[grampi]

Nice info :thumbsup: But I just really don't feel anything until 5000rpm thats why I stated it that way

That's just because the Yari engine doesn't make any power (regardless of what the VVTI is doing) until it hits 5K.

[YarisPR]

That's just because the Yari engine doesn't make any power (regardless of what the VVTI is doing) until it hits 5K.


I kinda notice that :biggrin: hahaha

[Nigal]

Even though the Fit may have won you looked better losing than they did winning. Those Fits are uglier than my drunken jr. prom date.