May be farewell to my 2008 so how good are the 2017's

[RutherfordmanX]

So with 377,000 miles on my girl she took a hit from behind by a big work truck. Took out the bumper, tailight and hatchback. My guess is the insurance company is going to total it with the miles it has on it. So I need another I can put 400,000 miles on. How are the 2017's as I may buy one with the closeout approaching. They seem to be listed as Yaris IA. I have an auto tranny now but am good with manual. Is the car as far as engine, etc. basically the same. I am more of a how it will last than how well it looks type guy. Let me know your thoughts as I am a die hard Yaris fan after my first. Yaris's never die they just get ate up one day:cry:

[NYC-SE]

Sorry to hear this. The Yaris iA is NOT a Yaris. It is a rebadged Mazda 2. Toyota does still sell the real Yaris in hatchback form only. Seems more dealers carry the iA than the hatch. Mechanically the Yaris (not the iA) is pretty much the same as your 2008, so expect the same reliability. Don't be afraid to buy a used one. Rental agencies are a good source.

[WeeYari]

IMO, the iA is a Mazda and therefore none of the established Yaris experiences apply.

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[Dodge Aries K]

Yeah, forget the iA. The 2017 hatches are clearancing out now so you should be able to snag a good deal on one.

[Kalispel]

Yeah, forget the iA. The 2017 hatches are clearancing out now so you should be able to snag a good deal on one.

I'm not a fan of the Mazda-built (Mazda2) Yaris iA. I would definitely go with either a Toyota Yaris Hatch (SE!) or the (Made in Japan!) Toyota iM. Those are the ones at the top on my own list currently. I've already read about various transmission & mechanical issues in iA's that are not even a year old yet. Sad.

[RutherfordmanX]

Thanks for the info. Big help. So is the 2017 Yaris L a base model Yaris and a "real" Yaris. Not looking for anything fancy. I have only found a couple of these within 150 miles of me. Lots of IA's, no SE's or iM's

[Dodge Aries K]

Yes, the Yaris L hatchback is a real Yaris. That's what I have, a 2016. Love that car.

[Kalispel]

Thanks for the info. Big help. So is the 2017 Yaris L a base model Yaris and a "real" Yaris. Not looking for anything fancy. I have only found a couple of these within 150 miles of me. Lots of IA's, no SE's or iM's

Yep, the Yaris L/LE/SE are all real Yaris, and almost mechanically identical to the original Yaris that was released in the U.S. in 2007. All the Yaris has had done since 2007 is various cosmetic facelifts and sheetmetal changes for the most part. The engine, drivetrain, etc. remain virtually unchanged. It isn't cutting edge technology, but it is bulletproof in terms of being tried-and-true reliable. The latest 2018 hatchback is also just another minor facelift of the same old trusty Yaris.

[RutherfordmanX]

Great info everyone. I may go used or either sway to 2018. So the 2018 hatchback L and LE are pretty much like my bulletproof 2008? That is good to know. 2017's L, LE's are really hard to find as I have expanded my search even further out. Tons of iA's though.
I am looking forward to another Yaris but I have spent so much of my life in my 2008 it will be hard to say good bye. Never had a car that even came close to the miles I have gotten out of her with few problems and she still wants to go for more.

[Dodge Aries K]

There is a brand new 2 door L 5 speed Yaris at the dealer near me in Rockford, IL. Maybe flights into the airport here are cheap?

[bentjazz]

Rutherford, sorry to hear about your Yaris. With 377,000 miles, I'd say that little guy served you well. Good luck in your search for a new car (hopefully a Yaris).

[RutherfordmanX]

Well I checked my odometer before it got a ride to the body shop for the adjuster and it made it to 378,454. It is still up in the air what will happen but I need another for sure. If they total it I may buy it back fix the tail light and drive it for a few months until I get another. The major damage is the hatchback but it didn't break the glass. Rear bumper some damage but no damage to the body other than that. If they want to fix it I may keep the cash and keep going with it but either way I need a replacement for the next 378,000 miles. So manual or automatic that is the question. I had an automatic but I like manual too. Most of my miles are highway but I do cruise up in the mountains too. Which will go the distance best? Kinda leaning to getting a 2018 L just your basic Yaris. I stopped off by the dealership and they say they dont really keep them on the lot as they don't sell many of them. They said they can get me a 2018 L though in about seven days so at least they seem to be readily available.

[DarkShadowFox]

:burnrubber:


:drinking:

buy a hatch back join the HB squad

[RutherfordmanX]

Pic of damage:cry:

[kimona]

^^^ That's not good.

[DarkShadowFox]

Pic of damage:cry:
ow ;;

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[DarkShadowFox]

Pic of damage:cry:
that unibody looks bent.

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[Dodge Aries K]

Too bad you're so far away, I'd have a go ghettoing it back together before it gets scrapped

[BIGTAZ351]

That damage wouldn't even stop me, the hatch where it's pushed in, is super hollow, my button sticks in the winter and it bounces in/out about 2 inches... As for the rear bumper and all that, I would get a Junkyard part and roll, who ever said the Unibody is bent...MUST be JOKING???

[RutherfordmanX]

Nothing underneath looks bent at all. Most of the impact was on the hatch. I did not attempt to open it as I figured I would never get it closed. I did look in from the back seat and did not see anything that was buckled in the floor area. The work truck had a seamless gutter machine in the back so it sat low in the ass and high in the front. That is why he got the hatch and not so much the bumper. I was sitting at a light and the guy said his foot slipped off the brake but he must have traveled a bit because it pushed me about 15 feet.

[DebbyM46227]

So with 377,000 miles on my girl she took a hit from behind by a big work truck. Took out the bumper, tailight and hatchback. My guess is the insurance company is going to total it with the miles it has on it. So I need another I can put 400,000 miles on. How are the 2017's as I may buy one with the closeout approaching. They seem to be listed as Yaris IA. I have an auto tranny now but am good with manual. Is the car as far as engine, etc. basically the same. I am more of a how it will last than how well it looks type guy. Let me know your thoughts as I am a die hard Yaris fan after my first. Yaris's never die they just get ate up one day:cry:

I used to have a 2010 Yaris, the actual Toyota Yaris.....now I have the Yaris IA which is really a rebranded Mazda2/Scion IA. I love it...even more than my "genuine" 2010 Yaris. I'm getting much better gas mileage...I have the 6 speed A/T and I get 40.5 MPG with that being 95% city driving, and I have only 1400 miles on it. It's so much more than my old Yaris. Yeah, I know that's not popular here.

[ern-diz]

I used to have a 2010 Yaris, the actual Toyota Yaris.....now I have the Yaris IA which is really a rebranded Mazda2/Scion IA. I love it...even more than my "genuine" 2010 Yaris. I'm getting much better gas mileage...I have the 6 speed A/T and I get 40.5 MPG with that being 95% city driving, and I have only 1400 miles on it. It's so much more than my old Yaris. Yeah, I know that's not popular here.

Hey, your experience is as valid as any other. I think most question/wonder about long term reliability. On a 3 year lease, it almost doesn't matter what you buy these days (almost lol), but if you're looking to buy and drive until the wheels fall off, I'm putting my money on my '07 over the new Mazda re-badge versions. I, and others, very well may be wrong about that. Time will tell.

[ABSPLASTIC]

Hey, your experience is as valid as any other. I think most question/wonder about long term reliability. On a 3 year lease, it almost doesn't matter what you buy these days (almost lol), but if you're looking to buy and drive until the wheels fall off, I'm putting my money on my '07 over the new Mazda re-badge versions. I, and others, very well may be wrong about that. Time will tell.

+1.
10th year owning my '08 and runs like it did off the lot. It has surpassed almost 15+ cars I've owned during the same time of ownership and has been in 5 accidents, all not at fault for me. I was actually swiped by a U Haul truck yesterday and waiting for estimator to assess damage. Almost 90k on the odometer :headbang:

[Kalispel]

I used to have a 2010 Yaris, the actual Toyota Yaris.....now I have the Yaris IA which is really a rebranded Mazda2/Scion IA. I love it...even more than my "genuine" 2010 Yaris. I'm getting much better gas mileage...I have the 6 speed A/T and I get 40.5 MPG with that being 95% city driving, and I have only 1400 miles on it. It's so much more than my old Yaris. Yeah, I know that's not popular here.

I hope that you aren't one of the unlucky ones. An unsettling number of iA's have had to have their transmissions replaced within the first 0-2 years of ownership (among other major mechanical defects), after sudden, unexpected failure occured. Doesn't speak well to the consistant design/build quality of that particular hardware - and certainly doesn't help the 'Made in Mexico' stereotype any.

Beyond that, Mazda does make some nice feeling/driving cars, and their inside cabins tend to be top notch for their price class - though Toyota somehow managed to ruin the looks of the Mazda2 with the iA front fascia, that's for sure. :tongue: Of course, many people said that about the 2015+ Yaris front fascia also - so that's all subjective opinion in the end. As long as you like the looks of your car, that is what really counts. :thumbsup:

[bronsin]

Too bad you're so far away, I'd have a go ghettoing it back together before it gets scrapped

I agree I do the same! If it was me there's plenty of good used Yari out there. No need to take a financial bath and buy a new one giving the depreciation.

Best of luck to you I think as long as you get another Yaris you'll be fine! :smile:

[bentjazz]

I used to have a 2010 Yaris, the actual Toyota Yaris.....now I have the Yaris IA which is really a rebranded Mazda2/Scion IA. I love it...even more than my "genuine" 2010 Yaris. I'm getting much better gas mileage...I have the 6 speed A/T and I get 40.5 MPG with that being 95% city driving, and I have only 1400 miles on it. It's so much more than my old Yaris. Yeah, I know that's not popular here.

As long as you're happy with it, that's all that matters, Debby. I did sit in one the other day at the dealership while waiting for my oil change, and it was nice. I'm so used to the glorified go-cart feel of my Yaris, and I love it. I'm quite sure I could learn to love an iA, as well. As long as it's reliable, that is. I'm totally spoiled on my Yaris reliability. Wish you all the best with your new car, Debby. Sounds like you're off to a great start.

[RutherfordmanX]

The estimator looked at then told them to do a tear down probably to get the hatch open and see what the metal looks like around it. He was back looking at it yesterday so should hear back soon. He did ask me if he did total it whether I was intersested in buying it back. I think either way I will lean towards a new 2018 L. Used is good but I will need to get maximum mileage out it. I see me running my next one the same as my 08 but now that I don't live up the gravel road from hell it will see less abuse. Thats what really amazed me about my 08. It spent quite a few years running that road that was one of the worst in the county and stiil went the distance.

[DarkShadowFox]

The estimator looked at then told them to do a tear down probably to get the hatch open and see what the metal looks like around it. He was back looking at it yesterday so should hear back soon. He did ask me if he did total it whether I was intersested in buying it back. I think either way I will lean towards a new 2018 L. Used is good but I will need to get maximum mileage out it. I see me running my next one the same as my 08 but now that I don't live up the gravel road from hell it will see less abuse. Thats what really amazed me about my 08. It spent quite a few years running that road that was one of the worst in the county and stiil went the distance.
get a 2018 SE its the best buy~ :9

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[bentjazz]

Keep us informed on what you decide, Rutherford.

[Kalispel]

get a 2018 SE its the best buy~ :9

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Considering the backwards cosmetic changes and continued lack of no-brainer standard features versus other global markets on the 2018 Yaris (SE), there is zero chance that I would choose a 2018 Yaris SE over the iM at this point. The iM/Auris is just a better designed, equipped & styled car versus the 2018 Yaris SE, and it is even 100% built in Japan as a nice bonus. Plus, you can pick up an iM at certain times for LESS $$$ than a Yaris SE, with factory/dealer rebates and incentives factored in. It's just sad. Toyota might as well just discontinue the Yaris SE, and make the L/LE a fleet/rental vehicle only - like they did with the 2012 Yaris Sedan. Not like they stock them at the dealerships anyway.

[DarkShadowFox]

Considering the backwards cosmetic changes and continued lack of no-brainer standard features versus other global markets on the 2018 Yaris (SE), there is zero chance that I would choose a 2018 Yaris SE over the iM at this point. The iM/Auris is just a better designed, equipped & styled car versus the 2018 Yaris SE, and it is even 100% built in Japan as a nice bonus. Plus, you can pick up an iM at certain times for LESS $$$ than a Yaris SE, with factory/dealer rebates and incentives factored in. It's just sad. Toyota might as well just discontinue the Yaris SE, and make the L/LE a fleet/rental vehicle only - like they did with the 2012 Yaris Sedan. Not like they stock them at the dealerships anyway.
theres no performance point to a wagon.

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[kimona]

theres no performance point to a wagon.

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What?

[Dodge Aries K]

The estimator looked at then told them to do a tear down probably to get the hatch open and see what the metal looks like around it. He was back looking at it yesterday so should hear back soon. He did ask me if he did total it whether I was intersested in buying it back. I think either way I will lean towards a new 2018 L. Used is good but I will need to get maximum mileage out it. I see me running my next one the same as my 08 but now that I don't live up the gravel road from hell it will see less abuse. Thats what really amazed me about my 08. It spent quite a few years running that road that was one of the worst in the county and stiil went the distance.

There's still even some brand new 2016's out there, the L two doors with a stick so it might be worth making a few phone calls and seeing if one of the dealers would let it go at a loss like when I bought mine.

[RutherfordmanX]

Well they are going to total the old girl out after finding more damage. They are offering me $2200.00 and some change but I am going to work them for a little more. Now the good news. I put down a deposit on a new 2017 Yaris L hatchback (silver) today. I have been looking around and there are only 5 Yaris L's in the southeast now. I got an automatic so the family can drive it. I have been driving a Nissan Altima rental and it feels like a tank so it will be good to get back in a Yar. Lets see how many miles this one will do!

[DarkShadowFox]

Well they are going to total the old girl out after finding more damage. They are offering me $2200.00 and some change but I am going to work them for a little more. Now the good news. I put down a deposit on a new 2017 Yaris L hatchback (silver) today. I have been looking around and there are only 5 Yaris L's in the southeast now. I got an automatic so the family can drive it. I have been driving a Nissan Altima rental and it feels like a tank so it will be good to get back in a Yar. Lets see how many miles this one will do!
buy an LE you get little better things and less retrofitting

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[kimona]

Well they are going to total the old girl out after finding more damage. They are offering me $2200.00 and some change but I am going to work them for a little more. Now the good news. I put down a deposit on a new 2017 Yaris L hatchback (silver) today. I have been looking around and there are only 5 Yaris L's in the southeast now. I got an automatic so the family can drive it. I have been driving a Nissan Altima rental and it feels like a tank so it will be good to get back in a Yar. Lets see how many miles this one will do!

Nice! I like the Yaris L, except for no power mirrors... which could be added.
Silver is good. Is it a 2 or 4 door?

Good luck with the insurance company.

[hairygityeti]

Yeah, forget the iA. The 2017 hatches are clearancing out now so you should be able to snag a good deal on one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpLk65rbps&t=25shttp://:iono:

[hairygityeti]

Pic of damage:cry:

Owch! :mad:

[RutherfordmanX]

Its a 2 door. I am an old dude (57) so the less new gadgets it has the better off I am. I asked them if I could get it with manual locks and windows and they looked at me strange.

[DarkShadowFox]

Its a 2 door. I am an old dude (57) so the less new gadgets it has the better off I am. I asked them if I could get it with manual locks and windows and they looked at me strange.
the power locks arent prone to breakage tons of parts on the yaris are parts pin mashup. def

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[bentjazz]

Hi Rutherford,

How's life with your new Yaris going? Have any pics you can share with us?

bentjazz

[DarkShadowFox]

Hi Rutherford,

How's life with your new Yaris going? Have any pics you can share with us?

bentjazz
any sweet rims yet.

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[bentjazz]

any sweet rims yet.

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I have a feeling Rutherford isn't a mod sort of guy. Neither am I, actually.

[RutherfordmanX]

Going to check it out today then if everything is good pick-up tommorrow. Total out the door price here in NC with tax, tag, etc. was $16,500.00. They actually wanted more and when I said I would not pay that there response was "well some people do". That was priceless. Yea I am sorry but bentjazz is right, probably not a mod sort of guy but I was when I was younger.

[RutherfordmanX]

Back in the saddle again:biggrin:
All the safety stuff is going to take a bit of time getting use to and of course all the other electronics will likey make me loss what little hair I have left. I will figure it out though with the help of my daughters. I did smile when they gave me an actual key, there is hope for me after all. It seems even with the up and down adjustment on the driver seat you sit higher up than the 08. No back-up camera which I am fine with since I can't not look at my mirrors while backing anyway. Like I said before the engine compartment is like an old friend.

[bentjazz]

Nice, Rutherford. Wish you all the best with your new Yaris. Can you
post a photo for us?

[RutherfordmanX]

Just your base model 2017 Yaris L. With all the new electronics it makes my 08 look like a dinosaur.

[kimona]

Nice. Looks great in silver. Congrats!

[DarkShadowFox]

Just your base model 2017 Yaris L. With all the new electronics it makes my 08 look like a dinosaur.
oh .w. good its just an L

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[scylla]

Love the silver. Looks better than my red.

[bentjazz]

I, too, love the silver. Sharp. If I bought another Yaris tomorrow, I'd want
it in either white or silver. Hope you get another 300,000 plus miles out of
this one, Rutherford.

[scylla]

BTW if cruise control is somewhat important to you don't hesitate to put one in yourself. On my 2015 base L it cost me a grand total of $20 and 15 minutes.

[RutherfordmanX]

Thanks for the info on the cruise control. I was surprised it did not have it but surprisingly enough I dont use it that much. Never really got use to them, damn I'm old. Yaris is doing fine so far but one thing I have noticed. When you get down to about an 1/8th of a tank of gas the needle falls real quick. Tank must taper down in size or maybe it does it on purpose to scare the crap out of you!

[DebbyM46227]

I hope that you aren't one of the unlucky ones. An unsettling number of iA's have had to have their transmissions replaced within the first 0-2 years of ownership (among other major mechanical defects), after sudden, unexpected failure occured. Doesn't speak well to the consistant design/build quality of that particular hardware - and certainly doesn't help the 'Made in Mexico' stereotype any.

Beyond that, Mazda does make some nice feeling/driving cars, and their inside cabins tend to be top notch for their price class - though Toyota somehow managed to ruin the looks of the Mazda2 with the iA front fascia, that's for sure. :tongue: Of course, many people said that about the 2015+ Yaris front fascia also - so that's all subjective opinion in the end. As long as you like the looks of your car, that is what really counts. :thumbsup:


I hope you're right. I have 2300 miles on mine now and all is OK. The engine was made in Japan, the A/T in Thailand.

As far as build-quality on a made in Mexico car, this IA is 1000% better than the 2015 Nissan Versa I had.

Hi, Bentjazz!!!