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justanotherdrunk
12-14-2017, 03:46 PM
The BMW i3's range is adequate for 98% of my normal daily driving, but today the company is having the Xmas lunch a few cities south so I had to drive the Garage Queen :wink:


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:headbang:

ern-diz
12-14-2017, 07:33 PM
The 2% :biggrin:

NYC-SE
12-14-2017, 09:39 PM
That's the problem with electrics. An electric would probably work for me concerning my daily routine. (Other than the fact that I live in an apartment and have no where to charge it!) But maybe once or twice a year I HAVE to make a long trip. Several hundred miles, sometimes several thousand. What do I do then? Buy another car for long trip? Rent? Seems simpler just to own one car that can do both.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for electrics, renewable energy, etc. As soon as there is an affordable electric car that can do 500 miles on a charge and recharge in 30 minutes I'll buy. Oh also there better be a fast charge station at every current gas station.

Eventually. Maybe.

Kalispel
12-15-2017, 04:47 PM
That's the problem with electrics. An electric would probably work for me concerning my daily routine. (Other than the fact that I live in an apartment and have no where to charge it!) But maybe once or twice a year I HAVE to make a long trip. Several hundred miles, sometimes several thousand. What do I do then? Buy another car for long trip? Rent? Seems simpler just to own one car that can do both.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for electrics, renewable energy, etc. As soon as there is an affordable electric car that can do 500 miles on a charge and recharge in 30 minutes I'll buy. Oh also there better be a fast charge station at every current gas station.

Eventually. Maybe.

I like the idea of owning an electric car (or even a hybrid), but the only nice looking one (to me) is the VOLT, and I don't trust the Chevy brand. Heck, I don't think I have trust/faith in any brand at this point beyond Toyota or Subaru, lol. That might even change if/when Toyota starts using BMW engines in their global-platform Corolla, iM, etc. Back on the topic of electric, it's a real shame that Toyota insists on releasing the most unattractive vehicles possible when it comes to their US-spec hybrid or alternative-fuel type vehicles. Just make an aesthetically-pleasing 'normal looking car', that happens to be electric, for heaven's sake. That is what the VOLT is, basically.

kimona
12-15-2017, 05:19 PM
I'd be a mess suffering from low-battery anxiety... even when the thing was fully charged. At this point, a hybrid would be my choice.

Kalispel
12-15-2017, 07:33 PM
I'd be a mess suffering from low-battery anxiety... even when the thing was fully charged. At this point, a hybrid would be my choice.

I would have jumped on a Yaris hybrid if it was offered in the US. I just can't get beyond the styling of the Prius-C (or any Prius for that matter). The 2018 Prius C wouldn't be that bad, if it wasn't for those still-awful taillights - among the WORST I have ever seen on ANY car. :eek:

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kimona
12-15-2017, 07:38 PM
^^^ Agreed. Tail lights are hideous, and those big fake overstyled front vents just look stupid. But, it's actually better looking than other Toyotas.

Toyota's design sense is polarizing at best. UGH!

NYC-SE
12-15-2017, 08:02 PM
Taillights > vents

Kalispel
12-19-2017, 07:43 PM
According to a recent news article about Toyota, by 2025, every model in the Toyota and Lexus line-up around the world will be available either as a dedicated electrified model or have an electrified (hybrid) option. I guess that means the Yaris will be discontinued in the US by then. :wink:

https://electrek.co/2017/12/18/toyota-electric-car-plans/

kevinj93
12-20-2017, 01:51 AM
Unfortunately a very large price difference between Yaris and Prius C. The Yaris is heavily discounted here at present, while the Prius C isn't.

At current Australian prices for the vehicles and fuel, it would take 270000 kilometers to break even on the price difference.

DarkShadowFox
04-25-2018, 05:40 PM
and im the .5% because i own a face lifted and rear lifted a spec 3 door :P