Front Lip...Ordered one today (99 - 00 Civic)

[06YarisRS]

Hoping I can get some help here on how to properly modify it for installation. I read a couple of threads. I thought I'd shape it on the car before painting. I understand some trimming, and heating is needed. Should a be fun project along with the rear spoiler. These will both be added to my '06 RS.

https://i.imgur.com/1IkPqjg.jpg

[ern-diz]

These look great when on the car. Hopefully some of the folks here that have installed them chime in.

[kimona]

Great looking lip on the car. I'll be following your thread as you modify and fit it to your car. Good luck.

[06YarisRS]

Thanks Gentlemen! I don't expect to work on it until closer to spring, but I will definitely take pics of my progress.

[06YarisRS]

Hey how did that fit?

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I'm waiting for warmer weather. It will probably be in Late May or early June before I attempt the install. I'll definitiely post up progress pics when I go at it. I will do the same for the rear wing.

[06YarisRS]

Started the install today. I have it temporarily centered and tacked onto the front. I'm thinking I'll have to cut some triangles into the bottom, horizontal part of the lip so I can slowly make the curve. I'm a tad nervous about this stage. Worst case scenario, I buy another lip if I trash this one.

Centered and tacked on:

https://i.imgur.com/FjFdjq8.jpg

Hanging a bit:

https://i.imgur.com/m725JMi.jpg

Overhang:

https://i.imgur.com/JbsFoVm.jpg

Rough cutting:

https://i.imgur.com/LsumCxq.jpg

Next step is to make the "V" cuts and mold it to the contour. I'll finish the ends by making a flush line with the wheel well and use my dremel tool, then sand.

Open to any and all suggestions about any of the above plans.

I'll update the thread as I muddle along with this project.

[Runethecursed]

might be a bit more work, but wouldn't it be easier overall to cut the middle down to size and plastic weld it back together then hit it with primer and a sanding block and paint?

[06YarisRS]

This job is a bit beyond my skill level. I have had to attempt using RTV sealant along with the 3M tape to hold it on. I have drilled and screwed the spoiler to keep the seams tight. I did make slots as mentioned above and used the heat gun to mold to the contours. I'll remove the screws, use adhesion promoter, prime and use bondo and spot putty of fill the holes, prime and sand the lip. If I was having this done again, it would definitely go to a professional.

https://i.imgur.com/gynDug3.jpg

[06YarisRS]

might be a bit more work, but wouldn't it be easier overall to cut the middle down to size and plastic weld it back together then hit it with primer and a sanding block and paint?

The problem is getting the curves to conform. I don't think you could bend it to conform without heavily modifiying it as the Yaris bumper curves under as well as around the front. I have it attached now, but it is going to need some serious bondo, sandiing, priming and painting for it to look half decent. I will also have to get a bit creative where it ends at the wheel wells.
I been using the heat gun which helps shape it a bit, but it also expands a lot causing it to pop out in other places. This is a major challenge!

[Runethecursed]

hah yeah. The other way of doing this is way more labor intensive is getting formers foam from a crafts store and gluing it to the bumper and shaving it down to a shape you like then fiber glassing it over for a mold. pop it off and clean it up then boom. you have a front lip design.

Me? I'm probably gonna buy deliverances S front bumper lip and then fab up a splitter

[06YarisRS]

hah yeah. The other way of doing this is way more labor intensive is getting formers foam from a crafts store and gluing it to the bumper and shaving it down to a shape you like then fiber glassing it over for a mold. pop it off and clean it up then boom. you have a front lip design.

Me? I'm probably gonna buy deliverances S front bumper lip and then fab up a splitter

Yeah, that does sound like quite a job. It reminds me of the old skilled plasterers that made crown moulding with material and a trowel. Or, even those plaster ceiling fixture rings like in the old Victorian I used to own.

Anyway, this job is turning out to be a lot more involved than I had expected. As they say, "In for a dime, in for a dollar". I'm going to do the best job I can and hope it turns out ok. The next challenge...fabricating end caps. The more I think about your initial suggestion about cutting from the middle, the more I now wished I'd tried that even though it woudn't be without its challenges too.

[Runethecursed]

the main challenges is getting the sides to mate nice and neat with your curvature, the easy part is taping the centers together and going at it with some plastic weld and making sure its flat again

[06YarisRS]

the main challenges is getting the sides to mate nice and neat with your curvature, the easy part is taping the centers together and going at it with some plastic weld and making sure its flat again

Very true. I was out this evening looking at it and I'm a little more optimistic about the outcome. The curved lines of the spoiler actually match almost perfectly with the contours of the grille. I am going to pick up some urethane caulk tomorrow and go up underneath to be sure it's strongly attached. Then , when it's set, I'll remove my screws. I'm going to use the ends I cut off and plastic weld them back on. Finally, the sanding, bondo,sanding, priming, painting and clear coat. A BIG job, but hopefully one that will be worth it.

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[06YarisRS]

I picked up a can of expandable spray foam yesterday as I wasn't quite confident that the RTV sealant alone would hold the lip on. I sanded all the paint on the car under the lip and sanded the back of the lip. Both surfaces were then cleaned multiple times with alcohol. Then I sprayed both with adhesion promoter. The cavity was then basically filled and left to cure until this evening. I removed the screws and I think if I tried to remove the lip, the bumper would be coming with it. I tugged really hard and it wouldn't budge.

In the pics below I have just sanded, degreased a few times, applied the adhesion promoter and then the first coat of primer. Tomorrow, I get to work on fabricating the ends where the lip attaches to the wheel well. Next will be the bondo and spot putty, then a paintable caulk along the top edge for a perfect seal, sanding, priming, painting and clearcoat. I hope to be done by early next week.

https://i.imgur.com/fqbeBmB.jpg

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[kimona]

So far it is looking very good! Your diligence is paying off. Looking forward to the next stage and photos.

[06YarisRS]

So far it is looking very good! Your diligence is paying off. Looking forward to the next stage and photos.

Thanks, Kimona! As long as I can keep myself from rushing the body work and sanding, I think it should turn out quite nicely. Should have another round of pics in a few days. I'm away for a conference on Friday and we have weekend guests. Hoping to have those end caps done tomorrow evening though.

[WeeYari]

Your patience will become legendary.

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[06YarisRS]

Your patience will become legendary.

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Haha. My wife points out that this potentially 'legendary patience' does not transfer to all aspects of my life. :smile:

One could also regard this as OCD, I suppose.

[06YarisRS]

First rough bondo...

https://i.imgur.com/jNxDHKC.jpg

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[Runethecursed]

Moving right along arent you

[06YarisRS]

Moving right along arent you

Yes, however slowly. Here is the beginning of the end cap fabrication. It looks pretty darn rough now, but with bondo, spot putty, I think I can make it look pretty good - well, acceptable anyway. :laugh:

Open end before cap install.

https://i.imgur.com/XIWG0cs.jpg

Rough shaping before sanding and getting the contours as close as possible...

https://i.imgur.com/Mun2KU4.jpg

End cap attached. I used some 'super strong' gel super glue to attach the end cap. Then filled in behind with expanding foam. Still have to wait for the foam to dry before removing the screw and also have to fill the two holes. I'll drill and screw the end cap into the bumper after it's fully set. Then, do the body work.

https://i.imgur.com/6pivrfo.jpg

I'll use a toolable and paintable caulk or seam sealer to close up the top crack where the lip meets the bumper

First rough bondo. Needs some serious shaping. Ran out of 80 grit and sliced my finger open with the utility knife, so will stop for a day or so.

https://i.imgur.com/jyHElqD.jpg

Driver's side now. Expandable foam does a great job adhering the lip to the car. Will fabricate the end cap soon.

https://i.imgur.com/DtxdVZd.jpg

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Final sanding tomorrow. Apply caulk along top. Prime, sand, base coat and clear coat.

https://i.imgur.com/iqFJeSJ.jpg

[06YarisRS]

Ongoing...

More shaping needed. This has proved to be very difficult restoring the lines and curves after bending, warping and screwing the lip to the car. I am optimistic that I can get a tight, seemless connection at the top. I'll be using 35 year acrylic caulk which is easy to work into a thin, straight bead with cloth and water.

At some point soon I'm just going to call it quits and sand and paint. I'm gaining more and more respect for autobody technicians by the day.

No doubt after all this labour I'll scrub a curb and the entire thing will blow into pieces. :laugh:

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[Runethecursed]

Keep up the hard work, its really comin together

[06YarisRS]

Keep up the hard work, its really comin together

Thanks man! I'm fighting the urge to paint. Of course, once I start spraying the base coat, every tiny imperfection will jump right out.

[06YarisRS]

Caulking done and another layer of primer. One last round of spot putty, priming and block sanding and the base goes on.

https://i.imgur.com/aelPpu2.jpg

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[06YarisRS]

First coat of paint. Will wet sand and repaint a couple more coats. I ordered two cans of SprayMax 2K Clear which I will apply in a few days. It should bring the ultra shiny glare down a bit and match the OEM paint better. The final effect will be acceptable. It looks good at a distance, not so great right up close.

https://i.imgur.com/bXYOZdQ.jpg

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[kimona]

Looks great in your photos!

[06YarisRS]

Looks great in your photos!

Thanks. It's growing on me. Especially as the sun goes down. :biggrin:

[kimona]

Looks like you had a beautiful day in your neck of the woods.

[NYC-SE]

Looks fantastic. I've always been envious of guys who could do bodywork.

[06YarisRS]

Looks like you had a beautiful day in your neck of the woods.

It was, Kimona. It was indeed.

[06YarisRS]

Looks fantastic. I've always been envious of guys who could do bodywork.

Thanks very much, NYC-SE. "could do bodwork" is a relative term. :laugh:

[Runethecursed]

Looks great, from experience, no one looks as closely as the guy who made it ;)

I really like how it all comes together!

[06YarisRS]

Looks great, from experience, no one looks as closely as the guy who made it ;)

I really like how it all comes together!

Thanks a lot!

Once I got prepped to clear coat the lip, I decided to do the whole bumper as it had a lot of dings and chips, so I set to it with bondo, spot putty and a lot of sanding. It turned out reasonably well, but I have to do some blending as the paint just slightly lighter than the factory even though it's color matched.

The SprayMax 2K clear is really amazing stuff. Such a deep gloss. It will be considerably glossier after it's cured and I wet sand and polish. I popped in a pic at the end of my tailgate. I was never quite happy with how dull it was with the standard spray can clear coat. This is only with two coats of clear.

Paint without clearcoat:

https://i.imgur.com/5i8VCRg.jpg

2 coats clear:

https://i.imgur.com/11MezLR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6sgID37.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/WMOYU2y.jpg




Liftgate. I still have to do the bumper with clear. I cut a major corner here and applied adhesion promoter over the badges too. They may peel. Either way, I've been pricing gear to set up a paint booth/compressor, paint gun etc. I am really leaning toward a full repaint of this car.

https://i.imgur.com/tZV99gb.jpg

[06YarisRS]

Bumper/Fender Paint Blending...

I had a fairly sharp cut off line so I sanded it all out with 180/320/600 then blended the bumper into the fender. Also fixed some scratches and small dings on the fender while at it. I'm quite impressed with the blend I got with spray cans. Not a bad spray pattern from the Duplicolor Perfect Match (a slight misnomer :smile: ) I'm clear coating soon. Will post more pics.


It's hard to tell with all the sun glare but the blend is almost unnoticeable. We'll see what happens with the 2K clear goes on.

https://i.imgur.com/Sm6I3zw.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/zhw7hGN.jpg

SprayMax 2K Clear. If you spray this stuff... most importantly USE A RESPIRATOR, long sleeve shirt and nitrile or latex gloves! It can do very nasty things to your constitution!

https://i.imgur.com/UCCIlno.jpg

First coat of clear. A bit matte but subsequent coats should bring that deep gloss SprayMax is known for.

https://i.imgur.com/qOAe0BJ.jpg

Done. I had to rush the car into the garage as the wind started picking up and a fog bank was approaching. You can see it over the trees just to the left of the van. Thankfully it pulled back out to sea a bit before ruining my paint job. Sunny and calm one second, foggy and windy the next around here. I decided to paint outside because I don't really have adequate lighting and in some ways it makes sense to paint it out in the light as that's where it will live. Will post pics after it's dried and then after wet sanding and buffing.

https://i.imgur.com/uUf2n9c.jpg

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Will post pics after wetsand and polish. Should really bring out the gloss.

Now...off to celebrate Mothers' Day with the fam.

[ern-diz]

Just fantastic.

[WeeYari]

I'm impressed at what you are able to achieve with rattle cans.

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[06YarisRS]

Just fantastic.

Thanks, ern-diz!

[06YarisRS]

I'm impressed at what you are able to achieve with rattle cans.

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Thanks WeeYari! Not too bad, eh. The SprayMax is a great product. It has a nice spray pattern. I did notice a slight bit of metallic flake streaking in the fender in the right light. This was actually my first "blending" attempt over a large panel area and I applied some vertically which caused the streaking. I have yet to do the other side and I expect it to turn out better as I'll go full sweeps horizontally and pull the can away for the blend. If the passenger side turns out better - a.k.a. no streaking - I'll redo the driver's side. I've also been pricing compressors and paint guns. :biggrin:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Progress is looking great!

[06YarisRS]

Progress is looking great!

Thanks!

Here are a couple from different angles. Car needs a good cleaning, and polish. Lots of over spray and dust including on the headlights.

https://i.imgur.com/8uUZuol.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ggksT8f.jpg

[06YarisRS]

Wondering what one of these would look like on the rear bumper. :biggrin:

There might be too much vertical curvature and integrating it with the mud flaps might present a challenge.

May do some measurements tonight.

[WeeYari]

Wondering what one of these would look like on the rear bumper. :biggrin:


Sounds like a photoshop challenge for 'sugi.

[06YarisRS]

Sounds like a photoshop challenge for 'sugi.

Ah ha, never thought of that. I used to use photoshop a lot editing textures for Microsoft Flight Simulator sceneries I developed. Don't have Photoshop anymore. Maybe I could try Gimp.

[06YarisRS]

Did the passenger side blending and clear coating tonight. I also fixed a ding on the fender. The ding was right on the arch line so it took quite a bit of shaping to get back.

https://i.imgur.com/vrit4Tz.jpg

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Paint laid smoothly as did the clear coat. Wet sanding and polishing should dramatically improve clarity. The metallic flake in the Duplicolor "Perfect Match" is larger than the factory flake and it's hard to get the flake evenly dispersed. Not bad though for a spray bomb. I am so itching to get my larger compressor and LVLP spray gun and other tools etc.

https://i.imgur.com/CaQq6Qk.jpg

[kimona]

You will have repainted the entire car soon! Nice going.

[06YarisRS]

You will have repainted the entire car soon! Nice going.

Haha! It's going to happen. Just a matter of when. My biggest obstacle is how to set my garage up to do it properly. I need cross ventilation and a lot of plastic sheeting on the ceiling etc. I have been pricing the needed tools and materials.

[Runethecursed]

Trevor from Motion Auto TV has been dealing with the same issue. Basically the best i can figure is a wedding style tent. tape ip the bottom and cut out sections for HEPA filters and a few fans... then water down the ground and spray on

[06YarisRS]

Trevor from Motion Auto TV has been dealing with the same issue. Basically the best i can figure is a wedding style tent. tape ip the bottom and cut out sections for HEPA filters and a few fans... then water down the ground and spray on

Yes, that sounds like a do-able solution. I was thinking maybe one of my garage doors could be open enough to place a box fan there. The rest of the opening could be filled with plywood or cardbord. The other door, I open enough to place a few furnace or HVAC filters and fill the remaining gaps.

[06YarisRS]

:thumbsup:You will have repainted the entire car soon! Nice going.

Yes...I will, oh wise, Kimona! And here is the first step... :thumbsup:

I picked up my used 'old school' home built compressor today. $200.00 CAD and works like a champ. I think I would have had to spend $700.00 - $800.00 to get a new one that is capable of spraying a full car. The seller was great and showed me his shop, gave me some pointers on painting - he's painted several cars.

Picked up my spray gun, regulator, fittings. Also a 50' hose. May take that back in favour of a 25' but will measure out 25' in my garage first.

Anyway, this compressor kicks butt. We ran my paint gun and the compressor was more than up to the task of sustained spraying.

I will be letting the car 'cure' from all the work I've done lately before starting this project. Thinking maybe mid August.

https://i.imgur.com/Hrcb1Ru.jpg

[jjbG35yaris]

Where did purchase the duplicolor perfect match paint? Looking for 1F8 (meteorite metallic) and having issues finding it.

[kimona]

Very nice. Looks like a bullet proof "old school" set-up. Now, to configure your clean room environment. Expecting a complete re-spray in the near future. Exciting.

[06YarisRS]

Where did purchase the duplicolor perfect match paint? Looking for 1F8 (meteorite metallic) and having issues finding it.

Hi jjbG35Yaris.

Canadian Tire in Canada sells the Duplicolor line. I don't think they make 1F8 as I looked for it. My 2008 Yaris has that paint. I had a local shop mix up a spray bomb.

Here is a link to a site that has the product you're looking for:

http://www.automotivetouchup.com/touch-up-paint/toyota/2008/yaris/?code=1F8

[06YarisRS]

Very nice. Looks like a bullet proof "old school" set-up. Now, to configure your clean room environment. Expecting a complete re-spray in the near future. Exciting.

It is a beast, Kimona. I got all my fittings hooked up and tested it with sustained spraying (air only at this point). It should easily capable of painting a car and maintaining pressure. It will run intermittently, of course.

I did some light maintenance: oil change, cut new foam filters and cleaned the felt filters. Also, cleaned it up well including all the crud out of the fins.

Yes, the spray booth...

I've been doing a lot of reading. Negative pressure seems to be the way to go, but I'm leaning toward blowing the stuff out of the enclosure. I'll dedicate 1/2 of my garage to a booth. 2 20 box fans and 2 20" furnace filters.

[WeeYari]

If you were to strive for, and get to the point of a negative pressure environment, you might as well change professions.

What's the top psi and sustained cfm of that ugly sow?

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[06YarisRS]

If you were to strive for, and get to the point of a negative pressure environment, you might as well change professions.

What's the top psi and sustained cfm of that ugly sow?

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Haha, ugly sow she is! Not certain as I have yet to find any info on the compressor itself. I've posted on a site that is dedicated to all things compressors and am hoping that someone on there can tell me. I also plan to write the company, Champion Pneumatic Machinery, (or the latest iteration of the company) and see what specs are on the head unit itself. Since it's a home built, I doubt there's any real way of knowing what the unit is capable of.

When you refer to negative pressure environment and changing professions, am I correct in assuming you're alluding to the cost of creating one? My key concern is evacuating fumes/mist/overspray s quickly as possible. I've read about explosions associated with drawing air over an unenclosed motor - such as the box fan - yet everyone I've talk to that's done similar painting etc thinks it's exceedingly unlikely. I theorize that if I can evacuate quickly and bring in as little contamination (dust), I'll be safe and better off generally. Or...you'll read about it in the news. :evil:

[WeeYari]

When you refer to negative pressure environment and changing professions, am I correct in assuming you're alluding to the cost of creating one?

Sort of, tongue and cheek. With that expense and effort, you'd be well positioned to at least sideline. Really, once done, how many vehicles would you personally need to paint? Make money from a hobby.

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[06YarisRS]

Yes, the thought of a few jobs here and there sounds appealing. A budget paint job with no guarantees for locals; word of mouth. Always the understanding that one should not expect a high quality job. At least in the early stages.

[06YarisRS]

I started a post called "Paint Booth For Full Respray" in the General discussion forum.