View Full Version : Tein S Tech with Tokico Blue or Tein Street Advance Z coilovers
Type-Y
01-11-2018, 08:16 PM
I'm trying to decide between the Tein S Tech springs and Tokico Blue struts & shocks or just getting the Tein Street Advance Z coilovers for my 2007 hatch. The price is basically the same.
The coilovers seem like a cool option, but I wonder if the added bonus of being able to adjust ride height, etc., can also become a hindrance because of the added complexity.
The S Techs and Tokico setup would be plug and play which is cool.
Does anyone know how the two setups compare?
ABSPLASTIC
01-12-2018, 12:51 AM
Go for the coilovers.
lol.
ern-diz
01-12-2018, 12:40 PM
I went the cheaper route and started with the Tein S Tech springs, paired with factory shocks/struts. Once the factory shocks/struts go, my plan is to replace with Bilstein B8's.
I'm not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination, but my understanding is the lower level Tein coil overs can't be rebuilt like many higher end coil overs can be. Additionally, with our car's rear suspension design, it's not really a coil over, it's still a spring/shock combo. Lastly, I've heard the opinion of several more knowledgeable folks than I, that claimed a proper spring/shock pairing can provide one of the best street setups you can have, so long as you don't need all the adjustments you get with coil overs for track days.
That's just my 2 cents, which is probably really only worth about 1.5, so take it for what it's worth :biggrin:
Type-Y
01-12-2018, 02:51 PM
I went the cheaper route and started with the Tein S Tech springs, paired with factory shocks/struts. Once the factory shocks/struts go, my plan is to replace with Bilstein B8's.
I'm not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination, but my understanding is the lower level Tein coil overs can't be rebuilt like many higher end coil overs can be. Additionally, with our car's rear suspension design, it's not really a coil over, it's still a spring/shock combo. Lastly, I've heard the opinion of several more knowledgeable folks than I, that claimed a proper spring/shock pairing can provide one of the best street setups you can have, so long as you don't need all the adjustments you get with coil overs for track days.
That's just my 2 cents, which is probably really only worth about 1.5, so take it for what it's worth :biggrin:
Lol.
I noticed what you are referring to regarding the rear being spring and shock (though adjustable). I am not even sure I'll be making adjustments much.
How are you finding the ride with the stock shocks/struts?
ern-diz
01-12-2018, 04:30 PM
Lol.
I noticed what you are referring to regarding the rear being spring and shock (though adjustable). I am not even sure I'll be making adjustments much.
How are you finding the ride with the stock shocks/struts?
Honestly, it's fantastic. I can sincerely say that after installing the Tein S Tech's, my ride improved over stock. They're progressive, so regular grocery getting is more comfortable than on stock springs, but when you throw the car into a freeway onramp, it sits down. I was pleasantly surprised.
My issue is that with 17" wheels and the aggressive drop of the Tein springs, I rub a little when hitting those really big freeway hips. It's rare, but does happen. I suspect that maybe stiffer shocks/struts, like the Tokico or Bilstein, would solve for it at the cost of a little comfort.
Type-Y
01-13-2018, 12:38 AM
Honestly, it's fantastic. I can sincerely say that after installing the Tein S Tech's, my ride improved over stock. They're progressive, so regular grocery getting is more comfortable than on stock springs, but when you throw the car into a freeway onramp, it sits down. I was pleasantly surprised.
My issue is that with 17" wheels and the aggressive drop of the Tein springs, I rub a little when hitting those really big freeway hips. It's rare, but does happen. I suspect that maybe stiffer shocks/struts, like the Tokico or Bilstein, would solve for it at the cost of a little comfort.
Your car looks great, very tastefully done - perfect stance.
I plan on sticking to 15's, so hope that rubbing won't be a factor. Are you rubbing the actual fender or liners?
tmontague
01-13-2018, 09:47 AM
Fwiw to add to the discussion I am currently running MicroImage lowering springs with tokiko blues rear and KYB excel G oem up front. I find the front severly lacks the stiffness to handle the springs. I live around really rough roads and this is where I find the issue comes out. On relatively smooth roads they are fine. If you are doing any hard driving and want more performance then the Bilstein b8's will be a good choice.
I'd ecommend the coil overs only if you need the adjustment, if not then springs and a quality shock/strut will do the job well.
This upcoming spring I'm finally going to coil overs and selling my current set up as I need something more for the track, for DD'ing it was fine
enviri
01-13-2018, 11:18 AM
i had tokico blues with the microimage first batch (AOE) of springs. They were indeed too soft on the front, but overall handling feel is great.
i since switched to coilovers and the car is much more stable, with higher grip, but to me handling feel has dimished somewhat.
I think tokico stopped production of yaris kits, and what you're buying is leftover warehouse stock.
Type-Y
01-14-2018, 12:46 AM
i had tokico blues with the microimage first batch (AOE) of springs. They were indeed too soft on the front, but overall handling feel is great.
i since switched to coilovers and the car is much more stable, with higher grip, but to me handling feel has dimished somewhat.
I think tokico stopped production of yaris kits, and what you're buying is leftover warehouse stock.
Not following what you mean about about the handling feel was better when it was softer.
What would be the problem with putting together a set from leftover stock?
enviri
01-14-2018, 02:01 AM
Handling feel is feedback given to you when driving, giving a sense of what each corner is doing at any given time. The strut spring combo gave that feedback, but i felt that its cornering limits are low.
The problem with leftover stock is getting replacements can end up being a problem. I think they have a lifetime warranty, but will it honored, or is there any stock left to cover it?
Type-Y
01-14-2018, 11:45 PM
Handling feel is feedback given to you when driving, giving a sense of what each corner is doing at any given time. The strut spring combo gave that feedback, but i felt that its cornering limits are low.
The problem with leftover stock is getting replacements can end up being a problem. I think they have a lifetime warranty, but will it honored, or is there any stock left to cover it?
Handling feel: Thanks for clarifying. So it seems like you find that your car handles better with the coilovers, but which setup do you enjoy more for daily driving?
Leftover stock: I didn't think of that and its a good point. For me its probably not a big factor unless I ended up with a defective shock/strut or I got a premature failure, because I don't log a lot of miles per year (~ 6K or less per year), but you're right, that is a consideration because they won't have a replacement shock/strut available if one happens to crap out, so I'd have to replace all four again.
Other Cars A Supra
01-15-2018, 12:44 PM
After finding some new Tein lowering springs on ebay i was toying with going with springs for now on standard shocks. with the 16 inch wheel and 195 40 16 tires i was looking at i figured i was safe with just springs for now. especially as they were so cheap!
Thirty-Nine
01-16-2018, 06:14 PM
I had crappy Megan coilovers for about 14 months. They rode hard and rusted. I swapped them out for S-Techs and HPs and couldn't be happier. It's a much better street setup that actually absorbs bumps and allows for some travel.
Unfortunately, I understand Tokico doesn't make the HPs for the Yaris anymore.
Type-Y
01-17-2018, 12:07 AM
I had crappy Megan coilovers for about 14 months. They rode hard and rusted. I swapped them out for S-Techs and HPs and couldn't be happier. It's a much better street setup that actually absorbs bumps and allows for some travel.
Unfortunately, I understand Tokico doesn't make the HPs for the Yaris anymore.
Thanks Thirty-Nine. I've read your blog and your Yaris is one of my favorites. :cool:
Type-Y
01-17-2018, 04:27 PM
One more question. Would the rear Tokico blues for a Scion XD work on the yaris?
Nevermind, wouldn't want to Frankenstein it anyway. I've called around and even though online retailers are showing the rear shocks as available, they in fact are NOT in stock. Tokico Blue for the Yaris is no longer an option.
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Since the Tokico's are not available and the TRD's are overpriced IMO, I just ordered a set of Tein Street Advance Z coilovers. Will post some pics when they arrive.
Type-Y
01-18-2018, 05:50 PM
The Tein coilover setup arrived today. Amazing, since I just ordered it yesterday. The box is heavy and so are the struts themselves. The finish is very nice. They have the overall feeling of quality. Here are some photos:
ern-diz
01-18-2018, 05:58 PM
:thumbsup:
enviri
01-18-2018, 08:48 PM
going to reuse your bits or buy new rubbers/hats/bearings for assembly?
Type-Y
01-18-2018, 09:06 PM
going to reuse your bits or buy new rubbers/hats/bearings for assembly?
Planning on reusing. Anything I should look out for?
enviri
01-18-2018, 10:53 PM
i would at least buy new bearings, just because its a wear item and usually first to go.
48619-0D011 (x2) or you can buy the moog/kyb version of it.
Type-Y
01-18-2018, 11:36 PM
i would at least buy new bearings, just because its a wear item and usually first to go.
48619-0D011 (x2) or you can buy the moog/kyb version of it.
Thanks! I want to do it right. (Should I get new rubbers and hats too?)
Would this work?
https://www.amazon.com/486190D011-Absorber-Bearing-Toyota-Febest/dp/B00DM9W2LG
enviri
01-19-2018, 01:39 AM
that's the part exactly.
oh! i forgot about bumpstops which tein requires to be cut!
48331-52080 (x2)
either way you're doing it right, but the question of putting new rubbers and such, its all about you wanting your existing suspension in one piece in case you want to quickly swap out for stock.
here's a dirty list of oem parts if you do wanna have a quick swap out of the front suspension. If you want TRD version of the rubber, that's something for you to consider.
https://i.imgur.com/pMypXxO.jpg
I have a spare set of coilovers sitting in my dining room floor fully assembled ready to go on any time.
malibuguy
01-19-2018, 05:25 PM
Im curious how the Teins are going to ride. Ive been on MicroImage springs and Tokico blues for nearly 7 years. Im tired of the shit ride quality. But the damper behavior during aggressive or track day driving is execptional. I dont race the car enough to justify the ride.
Im waiting on my Stagg dampers to show up and give those a whirl. They did wonders for my other car (ended up being faster st the track with them too)
Thirty-Nine
01-19-2018, 07:31 PM
I've thought about these as a replacement for my HPs. I'll be interested how you like them!
Type-Y
01-19-2018, 10:46 PM
that's the part exactly.
oh! i forgot about bumpstops which tein requires to be cut!
48331-52080 (x2)
either way you're doing it right, but the question of putting new rubbers and such, its all about you wanting your existing suspension in one piece in case you want to quickly swap out for stock.
here's a dirty list of oem parts if you do wanna have a quick swap out of the front suspension. If you want TRD version of the rubber, that's something for you to consider.
https://i.imgur.com/pMypXxO.jpg
I have a spare set of coilovers sitting in my dining room floor fully assembled ready to go on any time.
Thanks. Really appreciate that. I'll have to look up all these parts, but I'm guessing that with this part list I can have all the parts to have the stock springs/shocks/struts ready to re-install because both the coilovers and the stock ones will have all their own bits :biggrin:
Type-Y
01-19-2018, 10:47 PM
Im curious how the Teins are going to ride. Ive been on MicroImage springs and Tokico blues for nearly 7 years. Im tired of the shit ride quality. But the damper behavior during aggressive or track day driving is execptional. I dont race the car enough to justify the ride.
Im waiting on my Stagg dampers to show up and give those a whirl. They did wonders for my other car (ended up being faster st the track with them too)
Getting everything together - will definitely report back
Type-Y
01-19-2018, 10:50 PM
I've thought about these as a replacement for my HPs. I'll be interested how you like them!
I'm curious myself. :smile: I'll be posting my impressions after these are on. I thought I'd be ready to get it done this coming week, but looks like I'll need to order a few things first.
enviri
01-19-2018, 10:58 PM
i have a set of the teins too, lol let me know how it is. I'm currently on tanabe coilovers.
Type-Y
01-24-2018, 03:26 PM
So, the Teins are getting installed next Wednesday. Looking at the rain guard and the top of the strut mount, I don’t see how the adjustment knob will ever fit again after the install. Going to have the damping adjusted as per the instructions, 6 clicks from full counter clockwise and hope that works well. My mechanic pointed out that it is a hex wrench so there may be other options....I guess I’ll figure it out.
Question: Does anyone have the torque specs handy for the TRD sway bar? I didn’t get my instructions back after the install.
enviri
01-24-2018, 07:51 PM
For the TRD bar, the torque specs are 36 ft/lbs on the bolt at the bottom of the suspension, and 44 ft/lbs for the other bolt.
Type-Y
01-25-2018, 11:52 PM
For the TRD bar, the torque specs are 36 ft/lbs on the bolt at the bottom of the suspension, and 44 ft/lbs for the other bolt.
Thanks :cool:
hachi-roku_fan
04-15-2018, 11:49 AM
Bump for a review on how you liked this set up? I'm considering this for my 2010 hatch.
Type-Y
05-20-2018, 11:27 PM
Bump for a review on how you liked this set up? I'm considering this for my 2010 hatch.
Not long after my last post, my dad passed away, so this was shelved (Great man - alzheimers is a fucked up thing). I just started thinking about the Tein's again and my wife will surely be happy about my getting the big heavy box, that's still sitting in our entry way, out of there when I finally get this suspension installed.
Hoping to find time in the next week or two to get them on there.
hachi-roku_fan
05-21-2018, 01:36 AM
Not long after my last post, my dad passed away, so this was shelved (Great man - alzheimers is a fucked up thing). I just started thinking about the Tein's again and my wife will surely be happy about my getting the big heavy box, that's still sitting in our entry way, out of there when I finally get this suspension installed.
Hoping to find time in the next week or two to get them on there.
Sorry for your loss man.
Type-Y
06-16-2018, 08:42 PM
Fwiw to add to the discussion I am currently running MicroImage lowering springs with tokiko blues rear and KYB excel G oem up front. I find the front severly lacks the stiffness to handle the springs. I live around really rough roads and this is where I find the issue comes out. On relatively smooth roads they are fine. If you are doing any hard driving and want more performance then the Bilstein b8's will be a good choice.
I'd ecommend the coil overs only if you need the adjustment, if not then springs and a quality shock/strut will do the job well.
This upcoming spring I'm finally going to coil overs and selling my current set up as I need something more for the track, for DD'ing it was fine
Did you end up switching to the coil overs?
Type-Y
06-16-2018, 08:42 PM
Sorry for your loss man.
Thank you, appreciate it.
FYI these are still not installed, but in the meantime I got a set of Avid 1 AV08's (slip reps) in black. I posted a pic of one of them sitting in my hallway, in my other thread on wheel choices. I gotta get this stuff installed.
atomic_hoji
06-17-2018, 09:59 AM
Sorry to hear about Dad. Lost my Mum recently (cancer), so understand where you're at. Wrenching is good therapy; wife is also happy to have those misc. boxes of stuff go to the garage, lol.
Good luck with the install! :thumbsup:
--Adam
Type-Y
06-20-2018, 07:41 PM
Sorry to hear about Dad. Lost my Mum recently (cancer), so understand where you're at. Wrenching is good therapy; wife is also happy to have those misc. boxes of stuff go to the garage, lol.
Good luck with the install! :thumbsup:
--Adam
Thanks man, I appreciate that. My condolences to you as well. I read through most of your thread (very impressive) and each time you mentioned your mum, it gave me that familiar sinking/sickening feeling; hoping for the best as I read through it, but at the same time I kind of knew where it was heading, unfortunately. Sad. It's tough and I hope you're coping reasonably well.
I'm not much of a wrencher (which is why I drive a Toyota & Subaru, lol), but I'm enjoying the research of planning and picking of parts. I may try my hand at doing the axle back once I decide which one to go with. That may be within my limited skill set.
Type-Y
07-12-2018, 09:22 PM
Got the Tein's installed today. :biggrin: Pics coming soon...
Type-Y
07-13-2018, 12:33 AM
Here are some photos. I got my new rims mounted at the same time.
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hachi-roku_fan
07-13-2018, 01:05 AM
Looks good!! How's the ride? Anything special about the install?
ern-diz
07-13-2018, 11:58 AM
Super improvement, looks great :thumbsup:
Type-Y
07-13-2018, 10:02 PM
Looks good!! How's the ride? Anything special about the install?
They snapped three sockets removing the passenger strut, but otherwise they did it in about an hour and a half. Great shop btw, InTrack Tires in Queens in case anyone is local.
I noticed a big difference on the ride home from the shop yesterday. The car is lower, stiffer, tighter; it felt great. I got to drive through Forest Park for a bit with some curvy roads and it feels planted in the turns. Initial impression is that this is a huge improvement. Very happy with it. I go back next week for final adjustments and an alignment (feels perfect now as it is really).
Type-Y
07-13-2018, 10:27 PM
Super improvement, looks great :thumbsup:
Thanks! I totally agree:smile: After they were done one of the guys said it looked like a different car. It does. :cool:
atomic_hoji
07-14-2018, 01:51 PM
Thanks man, I appreciate that. My condolences to you as well. I read through most of your thread (very impressive) and each time you mentioned your mum, it gave me that familiar sinking/sickening feeling; hoping for the best as I read through it, but at the same time I kind of knew where it was heading, unfortunately. Sad. It's tough and I hope you're coping reasonably well.
I'm not much of a wrencher (which is why I drive a Toyota & Subaru, lol), but I'm enjoying the research of planning and picking of parts. I may try my hand at doing the axle back once I decide which one to go with. That may be within my limited skill set.
Hey, apologies, I completely missed this reply.. Appreciate the kind words - everyone is doing better and back to routine for the most part, thanks; just have to deal with the estate and legal junk..
From your axle-back thread it looks like you've taken the plunge - wrench on my friend, wrench on! Everyone starts somewhere. :biggrin:
Car is looking great with the new setup. :thumbsup: Glad to hear it's nice and planted on the road. Keep us posted how they settle in. Tien's are on my list to look at when I eventually get to swapping suspension, so I'll be looking forward to your feedback.
-- Adam
Type-Y
07-31-2018, 08:00 PM
Hey, apologies, I completely missed this reply.. Appreciate the kind words - everyone is doing better and back to routine for the most part, thanks; just have to deal with the estate and legal junk..
From your axle-back thread it looks like you've taken the plunge - wrench on my friend, wrench on! Everyone starts somewhere. :biggrin:
Car is looking great with the new setup. :thumbsup: Glad to hear it's nice and planted on the road. Keep us posted how they settle in. Tien's are on my list to look at when I eventually get to swapping suspension, so I'll be looking forward to your feedback.
-- Adam
No worries. Glad that things are getting back to normal.
As for the Tien's, I had a very loud metallic thud sound coming from the back when going over larger bumps for the first week. It only happened on particularly jarring bumps though. I mentioned this when I went back for my alignment and they checked everything and all looked to be installed correctly. After the alignment it happened again and then it hit me to check the firmness level. They set the back on almost the softest setting and once I set it to Tien's recommended, which is 8 from the firmest setting, it seems to have solved the problem. I didn't really realize how bouncy the car felt on the softer setting by comparison, but now they feel firm and the car feels even tighter than before. This thing really turns almost flat; on-ramps and off-ramps are particularly fun now. It's a big improvement in handling (and looks). That said, on crappy roads you definitely feel it.
Type-Y
08-05-2018, 05:51 PM
So, I spoke too soon. The loud metallic clunking noise is back. It comes from both sides in the rear when driving over bumps at speed. It’s very loud and the shop that installed them can’t find anything wrong with them. Any suggestions?
hachi-roku_fan
08-05-2018, 05:52 PM
Maybe he springs are binding? Any wear on any parts to hint at what's making contact?
tmontague
08-05-2018, 06:46 PM
fwiw I have a similar noise coming from my rear end. There appears to be nothing loose, I think it has to do with the springs binding against one another. If everything checks out then don't worry too much about it other than an annoying noise
Type-Y
08-05-2018, 10:36 PM
Maybe he springs are binding? Any wear on any parts to hint at what's making contact?
I'll have to get under there to check it out. Will report back.
Type-Y
08-05-2018, 10:43 PM
fwiw I have a similar noise coming from my rear end. There appears to be nothing loose, I think it has to do with the springs binding against one another. If everything checks out then don't worry too much about it other than an annoying noise
Really hoping that's not the case. The Street Advance Z is not even a true coilover in the rear on the Yaris, its just a shock and spring with the adjustability bracket on top of the spring.
Type-Y
08-28-2018, 06:55 PM
So the loud metal on metal sound from the back is still there over large bumps. It's worse on the driver's side, but happens on the passenger side too. The front is fine no matter what holes/bumps I hit and at whatever speed.
I went back to the installation instructions and noticed that the rear shocks come with bump stops, so I'm guessing that either they were not installed or they blew out (if that's possible). I need to get the car lifted to check under there to be sure. But right now it sounds like there's nothing acting as cushion when the shocks are fully compressed and that's what I believe is causing the noise. I wish I had a go pro to mount under there to record what is happening.
WeeYari
08-29-2018, 03:30 PM
Are you possibly still running with factory bump stops in place? If yes, then you will definitely be bottoming out against the stops.
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hachi-roku_fan
08-30-2018, 10:47 AM
Let us know how this gets resolved. I'm still on the edge with this since I know my wife would not be too happy if I did this and made the car worse lol. It's her car, but I drive, so I am modding as things need replacing.
Type-Y
08-31-2018, 09:02 PM
Let us know how this gets resolved. I'm still on the edge with this since I know my wife would not be too happy if I did this and made the car worse lol. It's her car, but I drive, so I am modding as things need replacing.
Honestly, I'd be perfectly happy with it if I didn't have this problem.
I will definitely report back once I get it figured out.
hachi-roku_fan
11-02-2018, 04:08 PM
Was it the bump stops?
Type-Y
12-05-2018, 11:32 PM
Was it the bump stops?
So it’s been a while. The noise is still there - definitely not the bump stops. Been to a couple different mechanics and they checked the install and all seems to be in order (though they said they’ve never heard anything like it).
I went back through the installation instructions for the umpteenth time and I may have found soumething. The install calls for reusing the coil spring insulators and I don’t see the insulator at the top. This is the next thing I’ll be checking.
Type-Y
12-28-2018, 01:17 AM
Finally solved!
Not the insulators.
It turned out to be that the rear dampers were not properly torqued down at the top, causing the metallic clanging sound. Driving it back from the shop was night and day; all the rough patches in the road where I was automatically bracing for a hit, were .... uneventful (hallelujah!), just what I was hoping for from the start. Without having to worry about the bumps, I was able to push it a bit on the way home on some sweeping on/off ramps and some local winding roads (for Queens) & it’s like driving a go cart. Loving this setup.
Type-Y
01-05-2019, 12:29 AM
1 week update:
Still totally quiet, no noise at all. I think I can finally start to give a true impression of this suspension. I have the settings set to 6 down from max firm and while its firm, it doesn't beat you up, so its still relatively comfortable, but turns flat. The overall feel of the car does not say "econo-box" when you're behind the wheel, because everything just feels tighter now; the steering feels better - you feel connected and it just feels like it goes where you point it and it stays composed at all times. The Teins made the car better and a lot more fun to drive.
hachi-roku_fan
01-05-2019, 12:35 AM
Thank you for the updates! Makes the decision a bit easier now.
Type-Y
01-05-2019, 12:50 AM
Thank you for the updates! Makes the decision a bit easier now.
I say go for it, just make sure that the install is done right. I spoke to Tein and they said the Street series are the only models they get calls about because they require the re-use of existing parts and installs not following the directions are usually the culprit. I had 3 guys working on my car at the same time during the original install and apparently one of them was not a superstar:laugh: The adjustability factor is a big plus; you have a lot of options in dialing in your comfort level.
Type-Y
02-01-2022, 04:51 PM
Its been a while since I've been here. Just wanted to give a quick update that I still have the Yaris and that the Tein suspension is still working perfectly and I have not babied it at all. The car still handles like a go cart and always puts a smile on my face when I drive it. Honestly, sometimes I still wonder why I like this thing so much. In fact, I recently had the chance to "upgrade" to a newer 2011 Mazda 2 with about 47K miles on it (owned by another family member who no longer drives), but I was really torn about letting the Yaris go and decided to keep it. Its more comfortable for me and drives way better in its current configuration than the Mazda, also I fit the Yaris better (I'm not tall at 5'9", but have longer legs, so the Mazda felt a little more cramped by comparison, where the Yaris feels totally comfortable to me with room to spare).
It is time for new tires, as the ones on the car now, which I bought right after purchasing the car are a becoming worn out and now over 6 years old (that flew by fast) and sidewalls are starting to show micro cracking.
Any suggestions on a good tire?
Type-Y
12-30-2022, 06:52 PM
I've recently noticed a knocking sound from the front suspension when going over even the smallest bumps in the road. The noise was not there when rocking the car up and down, so after doing some research I figured it was the sway bar links. My mechanic confirmed the same. However, the stock Yaris links are too big.
I started searching and it appears that Tein does not sell this part separately which is a bummer.
Looking for this part, so any help/advise is appreciated.
Compeer
12-30-2022, 10:19 PM
I've recently noticed a knocking sound from the front suspension when going over even the smallest bumps in the road. The noise was not there when rocking the car up and down, so after doing some research I figured it was the sway bar links. My mechanic confirmed the same. However, the stock Yaris links are too big.
I started searching and it appears that Tein does not sell this part separately which is a bummer.
Looking for this part, so any help/advise is appreciated.
You can buy adjustible sway bar links, I would buy a set of these and adjust them to same exact length as the tiens were. Also do a google search by length of your swar bar. +/= 5mm will still fit just cant be too far off or itl have incorrect angles.
something like these https://www.motionmotorsport.net/products/adjustable-sway-bar-endlinks
I have the Tien flex Z coil overs so if they ever stuff out i will be in the same boat so if you find a standard link thats the right size post your part number otherwise the adjustibles will do.
sh0rtlife
12-31-2022, 03:10 AM
find a "good" hardware store and you can get the ball ends and rod and make your own for a fraction of the cost...been there done that on a handfull of cars where the new bar made to fit doesnt match up with the OE links and somethings gotta be fabbed
personaly i go for the "open ball"(spherical ends) type vs the "ball-joint" type as you then get a nut/bolt assy and you can collar or machine a bolt to fit your application with perfection..even spacering out should you need a lil clearance ...sometimes finding the rod can be tricky but mcmaster car has it if you cant find it localy
FWIW the balljoint type of rod ends in that link are identical to parts used on some treadmills and ive got a handfull of em LOL
Type-Y
01-04-2023, 06:49 PM
You can buy adjustible sway bar links, I would buy a set of these and adjust them to same exact length as the tiens were. Also do a google search by length of your swar bar. +/= 5mm will still fit just cant be too far off or itl have incorrect angles.
something like these https://www.motionmotorsport.net/products/adjustable-sway-bar-endlinks
I have the Tien flex Z coil overs so if they ever stuff out i will be in the same boat so if you find a standard link thats the right size post your part number otherwise the adjustibles will do.
Thanks for your suggestion, much appreciated. I can't find the specs on what lenghts there are on the motionmotorsports part.
find a "good" hardware store and you can get the ball ends and rod and make your own for a fraction of the cost...been there done that on a handfull of cars where the new bar made to fit doesnt match up with the OE links and somethings gotta be fabbed
personaly i go for the "open ball"(spherical ends) type vs the "ball-joint" type as you then get a nut/bolt assy and you can collar or machine a bolt to fit your application with perfection..even spacering out should you need a lil clearance ...sometimes finding the rod can be tricky but mcmaster car has it if you cant find it localy
FWIW the balljoint type of rod ends in that link are identical to parts used on some treadmills and ive got a handfull of em LOL
LoL, I like the possibility of that budget friendly suggestion
After a bunch of searching, including reaching out to Tein (still waiting for them to get back to me). I found, a Tein adjustable sway bar link on ebay that should fit. My links are 12.5 inches bolt to bolt and this one should fit, since it has an adjustability range from 290-350mm :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194863311051?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110 006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D24423 7%26meid%3D64dc9ba296de409ea5ea3fc983030d78%26pid% 3D101110%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D194863311049%2 6itm%3D194863311051%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D204 7675%26algv%3DDefaultOrganicWeb%26brand%3DTein&_trksid=p2047675.c101110.m1982
Its kind of pricey, but should fit. I'll probably order this. Just waiting to hear back if these are sold as a pair or if the price is for a single unit, which woudl be F-ing nuts.
I also found it at Vivid Racing for a better price:
https://www.vividracing.com/tein-sway-bar-link-rod-m12290-114-138-adjustable-range-p-155247546.html
Compeer
01-13-2023, 08:21 AM
Thanks for your suggestion, much appreciated. I can't find the specs on what lenghts there are on the motionmotorsports part.
LoL, I like the possibility of that budget friendly suggestion
After a bunch of searching, including reaching out to Tein (still waiting for them to get back to me). I found, a Tein adjustable sway bar link on ebay that should fit. My links are 12.5 inches bolt to bolt and this one should fit, since it has an adjustability range from 290-350mm :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194863311051?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110 006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D24423 7%26meid%3D64dc9ba296de409ea5ea3fc983030d78%26pid% 3D101110%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D194863311049%2 6itm%3D194863311051%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D204 7675%26algv%3DDefaultOrganicWeb%26brand%3DTein&_trksid=p2047675.c101110.m1982
Its kind of pricey, but should fit. I'll probably order this. Just waiting to hear back if these are sold as a pair or if the price is for a single unit, which woudl be F-ing nuts.
I also found it at Vivid Racing for a better price:
https://www.vividracing.com/tein-sway-bar-link-rod-m12290-114-138-adjustable-range-p-155247546.html
I will measure the tein links when i pull my adjustible setup back off for my warrant of fitness check in next week or so and will post exact length you need.
Type-Y
01-13-2023, 04:08 PM
I heard back from Tein and they sent me the part number.
SPS23-R5916
They are $26 each.
Compeer
01-13-2023, 06:13 PM
I heard back from Tein and they sent me the part number.
SPS23-R5916
They are $26 each.
My original Tein flex z links are marked 913 and are 300mm long, the original links that came with my trd shocks and springs are 360mm. The advance Z must be taller than the Flex z I own.
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I made another post to document the Link sizes, if you could measure the links when you get yours as well and post them there that would be awesome.
Type-Y
11-03-2023, 01:42 PM
Its been a while. Still have the Yaris.
I ended up using the Tein adjustable links:
SPS23-R5916
These worked well, though they were more expensive.
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