What mileage would you consider selling your Yaris?

[BennyLava]

I created this thread just because I like to plan big changes, years in advance.

We bought the wife's 09 Yaris sedan in 2011. Had 40k miles on it. Now it has 200k. I was thinking we will probably sell it when it has 450k miles on it. And just buy another low mileage Yaris sedan, and start the process all over again. What are your thoughts on this? We change the oil with a high quality synthetic every 7500 miles, religiously. We also use a high end oil filter that I researched thoroughly before selecting which one we were going to use for the life of the car.

But at 450k miles, you begin to question how much longer an engine will last. I've known some cars that have very high mileage like that, to just finally die one day and need a new engine. Sometimes when the mileage gets that high, a connecting rod will just let go one day. Its not like you can complain if a connecting rod lets go, in an engine that has 450k miles. Most cars would have been crushed and melted 250k miles before that.

But that was just an example, you can insert whatever major expensive engine repairs you want. So at what mileage, would you consider selling your yaris? Even if you were just going to go out and buy yet another Yaris to replace it. Is there some general knowledge of when these engines typically fail? Even if maintained properly.

[Dodge Aries K]

450,000 miles is a lot of use. I would personally run the car until it dies at that point since people don't really want to spend any money on a car with mileage like that.

Unless if rust starts to eat away at my Yarii, I will be running them literally into the ground, patching them back up, and running them some more.

[firebird1999us]

Mines at 320k and I'm about to refurb it after a minor accident and continue driving it!

[BennyLava]

450,000 miles is a lot of use. I would personally run the car until it dies at that point since people don't really want to spend any money on a car with mileage like that.

Unless if rust starts to eat away at my Yarii, I will be running them literally into the ground, patching them back up, and running them some more.


Well I don't thin we'll run it till it dies, as we don't want the wife to be stranded at some point on her way to work. But I think you're right about the selling part. Few people would pay for that. Probably be a $500 car at most. So I'm trying to get some idea of when these engines are generally spent, when they're well maintained. My guess would be somewhere in the 400k-450k miles area.

How much does a low mileage engine cost for these things? When I say low mileage, I mean 30k-60k miles. I would think they'd be fairly cheap for a low mileage engine and transmission combo.

[Dodge Aries K]

If it gets to the point where you'd sell it for $500, I'll come get it haha.

For engine and trans prices, try www.car-part.com and see what the yards want for them. I haven't looked recently but I remember the engines not costing too much since they don't go bad almost ever.

[BennyLava]

If I ever did replace the engine, I'd want to reset the odometer to display the mileage of the new engine. So I could easily keep up with that. Don't know if its possible though. Well I'm sure its possible, just don't know how big of a pain it is.

[zoidberg444]

I don't see the point in selling once it has that kind of mileage. I'll run mine till its scrap and then strip it for parts and get another lower mileage/rust one.

[06YarisRS]

How much does a low mileage engine cost for these things?

Check out https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=2008+toyota+yaris+engine&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=2010+toyota+yaris+engine&_sacat=0

Older model years engines may have similar mileages and be less expensive. The above link is to a search produced by entering "2010 Toyota Yaris Engine".

[tmontague]

I don't see the point in selling once it has that kind of mileage. I'll run mine till its scrap and then strip it for parts and get another lower mileage/rust one.

Agreed. Since the newer models share the same parts you can either keep the hole one as a parts car or strip it to save space and store the parts. Then buy another cheap used yaris and have another excellent car for the next 10 years.

I've started Krown anti rust spraying my car every year when I bought my '08 in 2012 and the sub frame and body look astonishingly rust free. I see myself 3rd painting the car before I'll ever have to scrap it due to rust.

In my neck of the woods a large auto recycler sells 1nz's for $400-$600 plus tax, I bought my 2zr from them for $600 with only 89k km on it and they have a good reputation

[zoidberg444]

Agreed. Since the newer models share the same parts you can either keep the hole one as a parts car or strip it to save space and store the parts. Then buy another cheap used yaris and have another excellent car for the next 10 years.

I've started Krown anti rust spraying my car every year when I bought my '08 in 2012 and the sub frame and body look astonishingly rust free. I see myself 3rd painting the car before I'll ever have to scrap it due to rust.

In my neck of the woods a large auto recycler sells 1nz's for $400-$600 plus tax, I bought my 2zr from them for $600 with only 89k km on it and they have a good reputation

I'd strip mine to save space. Probably the only thing left would be a few dented body panels and the cars chassis and crusty old suspension components and a few plastic interior pieces and the stripped down engine (if it was high mileage/near death/dead). I looked on ebay a few weeks ago and there are quite a few Mk2 Yaris's for sale. Even if they had something wrong with them it wouldn't bother me. I'd just fix it. Plenty of people seem to want to chuck them at 10 years/<100,000 because conventional wisdom says that's when a car wears out.

I've seen 1KR-FE engines for sale with low mileage for £300. They are in several other cars beside the Yaris. Its not entirely simple to swap them. I would have to swap the oil sump with the one on my car and seen as mine is a Japanese made engine but all the others in Europe were made at the Engine/Gearbox plant in Poland i'm not entirely sure if my cars ECU will run one of the Euro engines and if I'll run into wiring issues but i'm certainly going to try.

[BennyLava]

Check out https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=2008+toyota+yaris+engine&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=2010+toyota+yaris+engine&_sacat=0

Older model years engines may have similar mileages and be less expensive. The above link is to a search produced by entering "2010 Toyota Yaris Engine".

Looked around, and wow these engines are cheap lol. Hard to beat this car, and this engine. Imo toyota really knocked it out of the park when they came up with the yaris. 30+ mpg and an engine that just doesn't like to die. And is cheap if it ever does die.

Found an engine that has 6k miles on it for $950.

So yeah, probably won't ever sell it lol. I'll just retire it and use it as "the loner" for when people I know need a car to use for a bit.

[tmontague]

^one of the reasons amoung many that Toyota has kept the 1nz for so darn long even though others companies like Honda have brought new power plants to their cars in the same class.

I personally wouldn't buy a new model in the first couple years as there is always issues that need to be ironed out when major changes are made.

I recently helped my sister in law buy her first car as she is now in her last year of Uni. It was of course an a/t '07 Yaris 4dr LB in black. 225k km on it and it was clean. I feel like a toyota fan boy but seriously there isn't a better value/reliable car out there for her in her price range (she paid $2300). The trans will last the life I'm the car and if it ever starts burning through oil I can just throw a new engine in the for $500 and a weekend of work.

[zoidberg444]

It's a shame. In the UK I've never seen a 1NZ MK2 Yaris. There were a few MK1's with them but the most popular engines were the SZ engines which aren't as good and oddly enough the Corolla only ever came with the ZZ engines which came in 1.4-1.6-1.8 and there was never a 1.5 option and the NZ engines weren't up to snuff with emissions and were to thirsty for our market so never really became widespread.

Honda have some good engines, but despite their habit of drinking oil quite a few Toyota engines have longer life spans. Plus the Yaris is more comfortable than it's Honda Jazz/Fit equivalent and I've driven both extensively. Only negative on the Yaris is cabin noise.

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[ern-diz]

As others have said, there is no number of miles high enough to make me sell my Yaris. I plan to keep it even after eventually getting another car. Only way I'll part with it is if someone totals it for me, or something structurally goes wrong that would make it unsafe and would cost a lot to repair.

[ABSPLASTIC]

^ I'm with you!

I'm slowly nearing 100k, but have barely hit 92k miles since October 2007. I'll drive this thing forever.

[ern-diz]

^ I'm with you!

I'm slowly nearing 100k, but have barely hit 92k miles since October 2007. I'll drive this thing forever.

Yes, sir!

I'm approaching 74k...

[ABSPLASTIC]

Yes, sir!

I'm approaching 74k...

I'm jealous lol

[kimona]

I guess I've got a different take on this. As any car approaches 100K miles, I start thinking about replacing it. It doesn't matter if I love the car, it's in excellent condition, and has given me zero problems. Sad to see it go, but the relationship is over.

[ern-diz]

I guess I've got a different take on this. As any car approaches 100K miles, I start thinking about replacing it. It doesn't matter if I love the car, it's in excellent condition, and has given me zero problems. Sad to see it go, but the relationship is over.

Why is that? Sheer boredom?

[kimona]

^^^ No. I could drive a car for years and not get bored with it. I just want to reduce the potential for problems on the road... especially knowing my wife drives the car. That's all.

[tmontague]

^why but such a reliable car then? Wouldn't you get more from your money by going with say a Hyundai fully loaded for the same price as a compatible toyota?

I'm just thinking if you are only going to put 100k on it than an engine that last well over 300k isn't a big feature for you and you end up paying for something you don't need?

[ern-diz]

^why but such a reliable car then? Wouldn't you get more from your money by going with say a Hyundai fully loaded for the same price as a compatible toyota?

I'm just thinking if you are only going to put 100k on it than an engine that last well over 300k isn't a big feature for you and you end up paying for something you don't need?

+1

Additionally, I'm a AAA member because any car, even a new one, can fail going down the road.

[zoidberg444]

Yeah. If i was a 100,000 car person i think i'd drive a Kia. They normally start dropping to bits at a little over 100,000 miles and they are pretty cheap/well equipped.

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[IllusionX]

Past cars tend to be pretty fallen apart by the time it reaches 10 years old. Though, both my Yaris and my parent's Camry are 12 years old and still solid, no rust.

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[Kalispel]

Out of all the cars I have owned in 36 or so years of driving, only my 5-spd manual 2000 Accord EX Sedan was kept past 100K miles, & really only because I had completely lost interest in cars for a certain period of time in my life when various other things were going on & occupying all my time. I bought the Accord new in 2000 for cash & sold it privately in 2015, just shy of 200K miles, before picking up my manual 2015 Yaris SE.

I haven't decided when I will get my next car, but it will likely be my first automatic ever, but will only happen when I finally do decide to go that route & can find that elusive, reliable, subcompact/compact make/model that doesn't turn me off with stupid styling and excessive features that I don't want. The thought of getting a CVT is discouraging though, as it seems somewhat foolhardy to own one past the powertrain warranty period, given the high random premature failure rate of them across all brands/models (more so in some than others, however). The more I read about CVT's & research them, the more convinced I am that they are only something to consider on a new 2-3 year lease vehicle. I wish Toyota would switch some models back to traditional time-tested automatics, or at least offer the option. There are some rumors that the next-gen Auris/iM will get a regular automatic version, but I'm not sure if that applies to the US-spec one or not.

On the flip side, most everything I have read about the alternatively-designed ECVT's in various Toyota's hybrids seem to suggest that they are very reliable. Another reason to wish that all Toyota models had a hybrid version here in the U.S. - as Toyota promised they would do by 2025.

[daddz07]

I bought mine brand spanking new since 2008 and I still have it for 123k original miles on it and still looking good..if I buy another toy I'll keep mine...this is my gas saver.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180218/a63539b0a85e6d4650f614756587fc62.jpg

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[BennyLava]

Only negative on the Yaris is cabin noise.

That can be fixed by using dynamat, then a layer of closed cell foam, then a layer of mass loaded vinyl. But you gotta do the same thing in the trunk as well. And try to get it as far up the inside of the firewall as you possibly can.

But this thread has convinced me that I'm probably never going to sell the Yaris. I live in the south so rust is never an issue. Our Yaris has only ever had any real issues with the front suspension, and the rubber seals around the car. Both the rear door seals (sedan) have let go, but I just used RTV silicone and now they are back in place. The ones that run along both sides of the roof popped up. Siliconed them back down as well. The rubber seal for the windshield wiper cowl, also came loss and started flapping around. More RTV. Now the front passenger door window seal has cracked. That will actually have to be replaced with a new one. But none of this is any real big deal. On the front suspension, I've had to replace all 4 control arms, and I'll start a new thread about the shock tower issue I'm having.

I think I'm going to buy me a yaris though. Right now the wife and I kind of share one, but when she's not home I drive an 87 chevy truck that I've done endless work to and that I love.

But I need me a gas saver, nice little car. Often times I won't go somewhere, just because all I have to drive is a truck from the 1980's. Its fine on shorter trips like around town, but if I want to go to the city, ugh. Its not so great. Not as comfortable, and not nearly as easy to drive. So I wanted to ask about the Yaris sedan sales in the U.S. Didn't they stop selling the sedan in the U.S for awhile? And now they've started again? Don't know the full story. But I can't do one of the newer ones, I can't abide that giant open mouth they have for a front bumper. So I want to get the latest year that I can, that doesn't have that front bumper. Which year should I be looking for? What is the latest year that I can get in the U.S, with no giant gaping front bumper? (only looking for sedan)

[bronsin]

. So at what mileage, would you consider selling your yaris? Even if you were just going to go out and buy yet another Yaris to replace it. Is there some general knowledge of when these engines typically fail? Even if maintained properly.

My goal for my Yaris is much different than a lot of what I’m reading on this post. I’ll be 62 this year and I hope this will be my last car. It only has 48,000 miles on it and only driving about 20 miles a week frequently a mile Or two to the store and back. Not a good scenario to rack up a lot of miles and about the best way to ruin a car there is! :cry:

Not only that, about the only thing I can do anymore is change the oil. Even changing the headlight bulbs or the brake light bulbs Might be out of the question. Oh for the days of my 74 Beatle when I could rebuild the engine, swap out the transmission, and repair a head on collision with a bent front axle all by myself!

I chose the Yaris because being a Toyota hopefully it’ll be unlikely I have to work on it. Although so far it’s needed a new water pump and a new oil pressure switch. Everyone talks about their Yaris with X number of hundred thousand miles on it and good for them. I put 250,000 miles on my beetle before rusted out. I’m hoping to get 100,000 miles before I can’t drive anymore And hoping and praying nothing else will go wrong that the dealer or shop will have to fix.

[malibuguy]

i'll replace mine when its dead...as in totaled or rotten

If I hurt the motor, I'll replace it, likewise for everything else mechanical

Would I get another one? Depends on my life at the moment. Right now if its gets totaled this week Id consider a new Fit, wife just got one a few months ago and I really like it. Kinda covers my minivan desires, small car, practical, and economy wants while being modern, safe and room for my baby on the way.

On the other hand I reallly want a LS400. I almost traded the Yaris for a MINT 92 blue LS400 a year ago, but the deal fell thru.

It has 139k on it atm, I hope to see 300k before i have to part ways. Bought it brand new

[Runethecursed]

I dont plan on selling my yaris, two events would likely lead to me "trying" to sell it.

I find a mint 2010 Mazda Rx8 R3 in aurora blue/ 86 Buick grand Natty for a decent price AND I have property to store it

I upgrade my seat time car to something else (which I don't feel is necessary)

the only other situation where'd id get rid of the yaris is in the most likely of cases, I roll or crash the thing and make it worthless to restore.

[bairjo]

I would have to say that the longevity of any machine depends on the maintenance that has been performed, service conditions, and driving habits of the driver. I plan on keeping my 2010, which only has about 137,000 miles on it for many years to come. However, once the thing starts to nickel and dime me, i figure it will be time to reinvest in a vehicle that I can be sure will not leave me stranded. Keep in mind, that day will not come as soon as many other cars out there.

[ern-diz]

That can be fixed by using dynamat, then a layer of closed cell foam, then a layer of mass loaded vinyl. But you gotta do the same thing in the trunk as well. And try to get it as far up the inside of the firewall as you possibly can.

But this thread has convinced me that I'm probably never going to sell the Yaris. I live in the south so rust is never an issue. Our Yaris has only ever had any real issues with the front suspension, and the rubber seals around the car. Both the rear door seals (sedan) have let go, but I just used RTV silicone and now they are back in place. The ones that run along both sides of the roof popped up. Siliconed them back down as well. The rubber seal for the windshield wiper cowl, also came loss and started flapping around. More RTV. Now the front passenger door window seal has cracked. That will actually have to be replaced with a new one. But none of this is any real big deal. On the front suspension, I've had to replace all 4 control arms, and I'll start a new thread about the shock tower issue I'm having.

I think I'm going to buy me a yaris though. Right now the wife and I kind of share one, but when she's not home I drive an 87 chevy truck that I've done endless work to and that I love.

But I need me a gas saver, nice little car. Often times I won't go somewhere, just because all I have to drive is a truck from the 1980's. Its fine on shorter trips like around town, but if I want to go to the city, ugh. Its not so great. Not as comfortable, and not nearly as easy to drive. So I wanted to ask about the Yaris sedan sales in the U.S. Didn't they stop selling the sedan in the U.S for awhile? And now they've started again? Don't know the full story. But I can't do one of the newer ones, I can't abide that giant open mouth they have for a front bumper. So I want to get the latest year that I can, that doesn't have that front bumper. Which year should I be looking for? What is the latest year that I can get in the U.S, with no giant gaping front bumper? (only looking for sedan)

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the sedans ran until 2012 here in the US. If I'm not mistaken, it was all hatchback after that through present day, which have the big fish mouths.

Here's a lower mile 2012 example (https://cargur.us/g_rb5) in my area going for $7,500, which I would think is top dollar.

Here's a happy little 2010 (https://cargur.us/mtn8w) for just under $5,900.

[BennyLava]

2012 eh? Well that should work out fine. Old enough to be somewhat inexpensive, new enough to be able to find one with lower mileage.

Which one is the best model? Can't get one that doesn't have power windows, cruise control, etc.

[ern-diz]

2012 eh? Well that should work out fine. Old enough to be somewhat inexpensive, new enough to be able to find one with lower mileage.

Which one is the best model? Can't get one that doesn't have power windows, cruise control, etc.

I would assume you could. I recommend hopping on CarGurus.com and running a search. It'll tell you what's available in your area. I'm sure if you post about a few you're looking at, people here will give their opinion on which might be best.

[David C]

When I bought mine in January 2016, I was actually looking for something a little bigger (mostly a Vibe), but with such a great deal (and also clock was ticking to get a car due to working different job sites) I figured I'd buy it, then sell it once I found the car I was looking for. Since then I've put over 40 000km (half being road trips) and lots of custom equipment my 2007 white 3dr Yaris that was already almost fully equipped from the factory, only missing fog lights and cruise control (which are installed now). I've never looked back, actually only forward to what level I could bring the car to. It now has 213 200km and many more travel stickers.

Honestly I'd love to sell the car, but I just can't find anything that suits me even better. I'd love a sport car, an off-road rig, a luxury cruiser, something flashy, but I wouldn't be able to do everything I'm doing, for the same low operating/ownership cost, at the same compact form factor, with a good balance of simple mechanics and useful electronics that allows me to tweak and customize it without a master degree, and that reliable.


So I'll keep driving it until it doesn't suit me, that symptoms of major malfunction shows up or it gets totaled. Simply replacing the engine doesn't reduce the wear on all the other parts, and these engines most likely outlast the whole car. There's a reason why a 2007 Yaris sells for $4k while a 2012 fully loaded Hyundai Accent at half the mileage goes for $3k or less around here.

[ern-diz]

Add to the mix that I recently looked up car values on my better half's Accord (we're thinking about trading it in for a new one) and while there, checked the value on mine.

Average of $1,500 trade-in.

$1,500!!!

Sure, I can sell it for around $4k privately but even for that, I'd MUCH rather just keep it as a second vehicle. It's worth far more as a project or backup car than I'd ever get in cash selling it --making it even more of a forever car.

[BennyLava]

Driving other cars makes me love the Yaris even more. They all seem to have much bigger blind spots, and it feels like you have to drive them a lot more carefully. Also their turning radius all sucks compared to a yaris. It really is the ultimate city vehicle. Got enough room to carry some stuff or some people, wonderful gas mileage, and an awesome turning radius. And not completely gutless like similar cars from the past.

Every other car I drive makes me like the yaris more. It could be a big bad expensive luxury car, and I'd still think it sucks in traffic or its hard to see out of. Hard to give up those perks that are directly related to the driving experience. Imo toyota really knocked it out of the park with the Yaris.

[zoidberg444]

Driving other cars makes me love the Yaris even more. They all seem to have much bigger blind spots, and it feels like you have to drive them a lot more carefully. Also their turning radius all sucks compared to a yaris. It really is the ultimate city vehicle. Got enough room to carry some stuff or some people, wonderful gas mileage, and an awesome turning radius. And not completely gutless like similar cars from the past.

Every other car I drive makes me like the yaris more. It could be a big bad expensive luxury car, and I'd still think it sucks in traffic or its hard to see out of. Hard to give up those perks that are directly related to the driving experience. Imo toyota really knocked it out of the park with the Yaris.

Yeah. I've driven a lot of different cars. Mainly for work or hire cars while traveling and even despite the high cabin noise. I find the Yaris drives pretty well (in fact its kind of fun) and I've yet to find another car with such a comfortable driving position. Its not a problem anymore but i used to live somewhere with on street parking and i never had to worry about parking the Yaris. Some of the space i got it into were insane.

I'm actually thinking about dealing with the cabin noise by putting some sound deadening in. There are a few other little mods like fog lamps and heated wing mirrors i'm thinking of adding to mine as well.

[sherlockholmes]

I don't know about you guys, but if I put more than 200k miles on my car and it does me only good (like Yaris) I would never sell it for cheap. Driving it would be more fun. Toyotas last long time, so either you get emotionally connected with the car, or at some point the "issues" will make you hate the car.

[BennyLava]

I'm actually thinking about dealing with the cabin noise by putting some sound deadening in. There are a few other little mods like fog lamps and heated wing mirrors i'm thinking of adding to mine as well.

Same here, I'm just going to fix the high cabin noise and keep on going. Some dynamat, mass loaded vinyl, and closed cell foam will fix that right up. You could also do some undercoating with something like spectrum sludge, and give the doors some dynamat and that door barrier from cascade. By the time you've gone this far though, you've probably spent more than $800. But the care may be more quiet than most luxury cars. Cause they don't go that far. I'd love to see a decibel comparison before and after. I also thought about doing the firewall with that foam and aluminum backed stuff for sound they have on amazon. But I kind of want to be able to hear the engine well enough in case something goes wrong I'll for sure hear it.

But yeah after I found a replacement engine with a whopping 8k miles on it, and a trans with 16k miles, for a total of $1400, I won't be selling the yaris any time in the next 10 years. Its with me for another 10 years at least, maybe another 20 years. Cause then you have to basically start the countdown over again. Cause maybe that new engine and trans doesn't die for 500k miles.

So that only leaves on last thing, that nobody can really do anything about. In 2029, a 2009 Yaris might be pretty unfashionable looking lol. Then again, put some wheels off a 2029 toyota on it, and paint it a Toyota color from 2029, and it would go a long way to updating it for awhile.