Southern Ontario Track Days 2018

[tmontague]

Hey guys, I figured I'd create a thread for anyone who is planning on doing track days this season so they can post up when and where they're going and maybe some others can join. There are not many Yaris's that show up to track days around here so it would be good to get some of us together.

TMP out in Cayuga has open track days every Friday from about 5pm until dusk for $100 cash day of or $70 6 days in advance. I plan to head out there every 2 weeks or so on Fridays. It's about 45 mins away from downtown Oakville and Friday evenings tend to be quieter than weekends so you can usually run at your own pace without many other cars getting in the way or blowing by you.

Also, if anyone local does any autox events let me know, I'm looking to get into them and wouldn't mind tagging along with someone

Tentatively I'm thinking about heading out on Friday May 4th for a shakedown/season opener

Let me know who's interested

[thebarber]

Maybe one time this summer when im in niagara...

[Ronnie V]

The wife and I will be out for the evening of May 11th. It's her birthday and she wants to go to the track. :)

We should be out quite a bit at TMP this summer.

[tmontague]

Hmm, I might as well head out on the 11th instead of the 4th then.

[Ronnie V]

Sounds good! See you there.

[bri62]

Hey guys, I figured I'd create a thread for anyone who is planning on doing track days this season so they can post up when and where they're going and maybe some others can join. There are not many Yaris's that show up to track days around here so it would be good to get some of us together.

TMP out in Cayuga has open track days every Friday from about 5pm until dusk for $100 cash day of or $70 6 days in advance. I plan to head out there every 2 weeks or so on Fridays. It's about 45 mins away from downtown Oakville and Friday evenings tend to be quieter than weekends so you can usually run at your own pace without many other cars getting in the way or blowing by you.

Also, if anyone local does any autox events let me know, I'm looking to get into them and wouldn't mind tagging along with someone

Tentatively I'm thinking about heading out on Friday May 4th for a shakedown/season opener

Let me know who's interestedI just signed up for Wednesday May 9, 5pm start. I'm hoping this will allow me to learn to manual shift better. My white Yaris has only 1200 km on it. I hope there will be other slow cars there that I can follow.

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[WeeYari]

I'm hoping this will allow me to learn to manual shift better.

Using the track to learn how to shift better, interesting approach.

Have FUN!!!!!

You going alone, or got a co-pilot with you?

[bri62]

Using the track to learn how to shift better, interesting approach.

Have FUN!!!!!

You going alone, or got a co-pilot with you?Alone so far.

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[thebarber]

Alone so far.

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easy enough to practice heel-toe on the streets...

[tmontague]

easy enough to practice heel-toe on the streets...

agreed, to become efficient at it I'd recommend doing it any time possible, meaning day to day. There is a lot to focus on during hot laps so a normal commute is perfect time to perfect one skill.

One thing to look out for since M/T is new to you is to avoid a money shift aka throwing the car into a lower gear instead of a higher one. This is a quick way to ruin a potentially fun track day very quickly. If in doubt don't let that clutch out.

Enjoy the lapping, you'll have a great time:thumbsup:

[tmontague]

Anyone else heading out to Cayuga this Friday evening?

[Ronnie V]

I'm in. :biggrin:

[tmontague]

:thumbup:

[bri62]

Have a great time. June 1 is the next day I'm thinking of attending. Any takers? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180511/2b5c90f5501cbc34f1c23d5beb73e0c9.jpg

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[tmontague]

I could do June 1st, I was thinking the 255th but June 11st may be better anyways.

How'd it go for you Wednesday?

[bri62]

I could do June 1st, I was thinking the 255th but June 11st may be better anyways.

How'd it go for you Wednesday?Great fun. I wish there were slower cars I could keep up with.
Due to the osteoarthritis in my clutch hip I was limping after 45 min straight lapping.
I'm hoping to passenger in you car to check the Bc coilovers with your spring rate. I had brake dive and wallowing on corner 1.
Over all I had a great time and will go again! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180511/d13bcf78d67211b0d7575f07e88517a7.jpg

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[tmontague]

I'll be there June 1st, and Ronnie mentioned he'll prob make it out as well. Hope for some warmer temps

[bri62]

I'll be there June 1st, and Ronnie mentioned he'll prob make it out as well. Hope for some warmer tempsDid you have a wet track on the 9th?

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[tmontague]

If you mean the 11th, yes it was drizzling for most of the evening. Track was "wet" by about 7pm but no standing water

[johnny_vitz]

Hopefully I can make it out to one with you guys. Just got the ol girl back on the road :thumbup:

[tmontague]

Awesome dude, I just paid for the June 1st evening session. Got my tire patched up and the temps are much warmer now so hopefully it will be a fun night

There are 3 of us that will likely be out on the 1st try and make it out if you can

[Ronnie V]

I should be good for Friday. Just got a full poly bushing set for the engine bay that I am going to try to get installed tomorrow.........

[tmontague]

Where the neck did you find that kit?! I just spent hours making my own as there is nothing online that I could find for the yaris (even for the 1nz)

[Ronnie V]

Energy Suspension Kit 8.1103 - Scion xB

You can find a lot of stuff for my model year searching around for Scion xa/xb stuff.

I got the rear one done.......Tuesday night I will try to tackle the other 2. The Lower Rear is a bitch.......Its done now with beefier hardware as well.

[johnny_vitz]

Awesome dude, I just paid for the June 1st evening session. Got my tire patched up and the temps are much warmer now so hopefully it will be a fun night

There are 3 of us that will likely be out on the 1st try and make it out if you can

Unfortunately I won't make that one. Going away for 1st-4th. I should probably give the car some lovin' before hitting the track. At the very least, use up the old gas in it...:burnrubber:

[tmontague]

Energy Suspension Kit 8.1103 - Scion xB

You can find a lot of stuff for my model year searching around for Scion xa/xb stuff.

I got the rear one done.......Tuesday night I will try to tackle the other 2. The Lower Rear is a bitch.......Its done now with beefier hardware as well.

ahhh, ya I forgot you had a first gen, different mount then the 2nd and 3rd gen's

Unfortunately I won't make that one. Going away for 1st-4th. I should probably give the car some lovin' before hitting the track. At the very least, use up the old gas in it...:burnrubber:

I'll be there again on Friday evening a couple weeks later, hopefully we'll see you out there sooner than later

[Ronnie V]

The weather changed for Cayuga on Friday for the worse. I don't want to run in the rain, no fun in a FWD.

Looking at next Friday now.........June 8

[tmontague]

Ya weather isn't looking so hot, I'll be out regardless as the rain will help me work on car control. For anyone coming out still look for a navy blue pop up tent, I'll be there.

I may go on the 8th as well depending on my shedule

[Ronnie V]

anyone up for Fri night, the 22nd? This one coming up.......

[tmontague]

Yup, I already booked it

[Ronnie V]

Nice. I will probably see you there. I have a few newbie friends that want to try their hand at lapping.......

[bri62]

I will be there Wednesday June 27.

[tmontague]

Anyone joining me this Friday (13th)? Evening session, nice hot temps

[bri62]

I will be there Wednesday June 27.I had a change in schedule. It's looking like June 20, Friday 5-9 for more lapping at Toronto motor sport park.

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[bri62]

Edit-- Shannon Motorsports 9-5 I had a change in schedule. It's looking like June 20, Friday 5-9 for more lapping at Toronto motor sport park.

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[Ronnie V]

I'm all set for tomorrow at TMP. I think Trev is down as well.

Just a FYI for anyone interested in seeing the 2 fastest Toyota compacts on earth. ;)

Ron

[tmontague]

I'm all set for tomorrow at TMP. I think Trev is down as well.

Just a FYI for anyone interested in seeing the 2 fastest Toyota compacts on earth. ;)

Ron

Yup, breaking sound barriers ;)


I'll be there around 4ish, look for the usual blue pop up tent, feel free to toss some stuff under it.

Side note, I'd stay away from the paddock under the bleachers, I had about 4 different kids in their porshe 911's ignorantly block me in or park in a way that makes it stupid difficult to back in after a session. I'll probably be in the area behind the concrete berrier, much quieter there

[Ronnie V]

Will do.....sounds good. I'm going to try to be there for 4 as well. See ya tomorrow.

[Ronnie V]

Good Fun last night at TMP. I learned a lot about my car........namely how fast it is and that it NEEDS a LSD.

After riding in Trevs car I also realized I need much stiffer spring rates.

Back out in a few weeks.........

[tmontague]

yup, fun night for sure, much better when you're there with people you know than flying solo. Your car is definitely fast, it was fun chasing down STI's and getting the point by

You will definitely benefit from proper spring rates and an LSD, I wouldn't be surprised if you could get down to a 1:26 with that set up

I learned 2 things sitting in your car...my tires are heat cycled out definitively and I need to start running proper track brake pads.

Looking forward to another track day

[Ronnie V]

I think on a no mistakes unimpeded lap I can get the car to a 1.26 flat the way it sits. The session before I took you for a ride I ran a 27.0 and a FRS totally slowed me down through the last 3 corners before the main straight.......I would have sworn it was a 26.6 and there were definitely a few mistakes on that lap.

If the LSD and the stiffer spring rates are good for a second and a half a lap then that should put the car mid 1.24's Totally good enough for a Echo.

If I raised it up and really set it up for the track maybe faster but it has to be slammed.......just looks so good. :)

[bri62]

Can you guys make it for Friday August 10? Trevor, you can check out my Carbotech xp 8 pads. I have no complaints about them except for some noise when they have heat in them. I remember the xp10 being noisier then the xp8 on the street. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180730/aff67900190c57809fc800caaeac7fe6.jpg

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[tmontague]

I will likely not be out again until 3rd or 4th Friday in August.

I've actually just ordered xp10's for the front. They will only be used to drive to and from the track plus track time and I'll have a separate set of rotors for them so I'm not worried about noise or rotor wear when cold. The HPS's will be my daily pads.

I also ordered a rotor flex hone to resurface the rotors as they are both glazed. Looking forward to some new stopping power

[Ronnie V]

I can do Aug 17th or 24th as well.........

and I decided to just leave the Hawk Blues on the car.......I think stopping a 4500lb whatever on cold blues is much different than stopping a 1900lb Echo..........I bet my current combo just never wears out. :D

I will repost if my rotors disintegrate in 3 weeks. ;)

[bri62]

I can do Aug 17th or 24th as well.........

and I decided to just leave the Hawk Blues on the car.......I think stopping a 4500lb whatever on cold blues is much different than stopping a 1900lb Echo..........I bet my current combo just never wears out. :D

I will repost if my rotors disintegrate in 3 weeks. ;)I will go on August 24 if you guys can make it, otherwise on Wednesday 22 August. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180807/b0c08d4c8b7633190f199e18842b7177.jpg

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[tmontague]

Just realised that I'm away on vacation the 24th. I'll be there on the 17th with some proper track pads and hopefully a proper race seat

[Ronnie V]

bri62, I think Trev and I are holding out until Sept now........I can't do Friday and as Trev said he is away the Friday after.........

Sept 7th?

[tmontague]

Yup I can't do this Friday anymore but the 7th would be fine

[Ronnie V]

bri62, looks like I will be there on Wed......a couple buddies want to go so I'm in.

White Echo HB.......say hello if you're out.

:)

[tmontague]

I'm booked for this Friday the 7th for the evening session - post here if you plan in coming out

[Ronnie V]

After going over the car on Saturday there was a very large puddle under the driver rear shock........it's leaking badly.

The coilovers I was texting you about are on order.......because of the custom spring rates I think it will be a few weeks before I'll be ready. How long did yours take to show up? and if you recall, what was the length of the rear springs?

on further inspection the front drivers side rotor is cracked badly and the caliper is pretty much ceased.........she took a bit of a beating on Thursday.......

I'll be back before the snow flies to push it into the 25's.......I'll text you when the coilovers show up.......might come on Friday with the wifes car.......I'll let you know......

[tmontague]

Rears are 6" front are 8".

Tough news on your car but at least you gave it a good look over. You will enjoy the improved handling at tmp w/ your new coil overs it makes a huge difference.

Iirc mine took about just under 3 weeks to be shipped to my door and that was in the spring which is probably their busy time.

What do you think was the reason for your rotors cracking? Are yours drilled?

Hope you can make it out in the brz

[Ronnie V]

Yeah, totally. They have been machined twice and the crack is directly through the center of a hole.......the Hawk Blue pads were the straw that broke the camels back........

It's ok, I have brand new Cryo treated stoptechs ready to go on and remanufactured front calipers on the way (powdercoated red to decrease stopping distance) and new braided steel brake lines........should knock all of the gremlins out of the braking system. :)

What was the deal with the Swift springs?? I recall you mentioning something about this when we were at the track........

I can't wait to try out the new setup. I can see what the new coilovers did and then over the winter do the diff........then next summer see what that does for laptimes independently of the new suspension........

Apparently my KSports are 6.7K fronts and 3.5K rears........albeit probably very tired, they are over a decade old now......

I wonder what the fastest Sub-Compact lap ever set at TMP is..........

[tmontague]

Good call on the red - I hear it is good for 10hp when applied to an engine and about 10m shorter stopping when applied to brakes ;)

The Swift's are lighter and perform more consistently throughout their full range of travel than stock steel springs. They apparently ride smoother. I didn't have the extra cash so I just went with standard springs but can always update down the road. Honestly, at this point I don't see a need to put my cash toward Swift's I'd rather put it towards other things.

I'm pretty sure the sub compact record is north if a 1:20 or at least for the street legal class it would be

[Ronnie V]

Is that Sub compact or compact?

I think you and I should start a Sub Compact Southen Ontario FB group Trev.......there was another Blue Echo (not Daniels) lapping there last Friday.......my wife was there running her drag car.

[tmontague]

I'm talking about sub compact but yes I agree a fb page would probably be a good platform to bring like minded people together

[tmontague]

Signed up for the evening session 4-7 pm next Friday (21st) will he my last of the season due to baby #2 being around the corner.

I now have my Sparco seat mounted, looking forward to testing that out

[Ronnie V]

Sounds good Trev. I doubt my coilovers will be here........but I will probably be out anyways.......I'll text you closer to Friday.

You're gonna love the seat.

[Ronnie V]

Looking at the weather for Wed........I think I am going to go.........maybe the last nice day of the year.

Trev? Anyone?

[tmontague]

Sorry buddy, I'm out for the year baby #2 came this weekend and I'm saving up for some go fast parts for next year.

Have a good time!

[Ronnie V]

Congratulations Trev!!!! That is fantastic news. :D

I let you know what the Cup Car runs........should be fun. I am going to get another one tomorrow. I just can't get enough of the first gens.......

[Ronnie V]

With the 2019 track season upon us I figured it would be a good idea to start a FB group to keep track of outings and the inevitable fun that will be had.

I got the idea from a member here on YW and named it the wannabspecs. Thanks to YW member deng 😁.......hope you don't mind.

So check out and ask to join the FB group and I also started a Instagram.

It should be a great summer of track nights.

#wannabspecs

[tmontague]

Bahah great name, I'll check out the group, good idea

Edit* couldn't find the group on FB, share a link if you can

[Ronnie V]

Will do Trev. I wonder why you couldnt find it.....I'll review the group settings today. I did make it a closed group.....maybe that was wrong. I'm new to groups on FB.

If you just search FB for wannabspecs it doesn't come up?

[tmontague]

Will do Trev. I wonder why you couldnt find it.....I'll review the group settings today. I did make it a closed group.....maybe that was wrong. I'm new to groups on FB.

If you just search FB for wannabspecs it doesn't come up?

Yup, I just searched the name and it came up empty. I'm not very FB literate so I'm not a lot of help when it comes to settings on a group

[suprf1y]

Yup, I just searched the name and it came up empty.

Same here

[Ronnie V]

Ok.....lemme try to sort it out tonight. I'll post here to get you guys to try again.

[Ronnie V]

Ok, everything looks right. I think it is just FB doing some pre approval of new groups........anyone should be able to find the group. And on FB you can only change the privacy settings on a group once every 28 days......

If you guys don't find it with another search then I guess I'll post a link........if I can.......

[suprf1y]

FB can be a little non-intuitive and user non-friendly sometimes

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2212283452344416/

[tmontague]

Awesome, thanks for the link

[Ronnie V]

Nice! Thanks Suprf1y.

[tmontague]

First track day of the season this Friday (June 7) 5-9pm a@TMP, come one come all!

[thebarber]

First track day of the season this Friday (June 7) 5-9pm a@TMP, come one come all!

anything going on the long weekend in august?

[tmontague]

I'll be up North at the cottage, you going to be in town?

[thebarber]

I'll be up North at the cottage, you going to be in town?

july 29-aug-9 +/-

[tmontague]

july 29-aug-9 +/-

right on, I'll try and see if I can set something up in August and meet you out there

[Ronnie V]

I should have my street car back on the road again by then. We can have a SC'ed echo battle Adam. :)

[bri62]

Tmp June 24 10-5, just paid. Company would be good. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190608/605f4d7c9ecdbb8cdf06ebcf13283836.jpg

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