Yaris vs Corolla

[BennyLava]

The wife and I generally share the her Yaris sedan, but when she goes to work I'm driving the 87 Silverado. I love the truck and have been fixing it up for the last 10 years, but there is nothing like a newer vehicle for those modern comforts. Not to mention that the Yaris is a car, which is just a lot better than a truck for driving around when you don't need the utility of a truck for something.

If I want to go into the city, the truck ain't much fun. So I was considering getting a Yaris of my own. But then I had to consider a 4 door Corolla. The yaris is cool but I could learn to like the larger interior space of the Corolla. As well as the larger trunk space So these will be general questions. What is the turning radius of the corolla like vs the yaris? How about the fuel economy? Is there anything else I should consider when comparing them?

I'd be looking at 4 door, automatic corollas, probably 2013-2016 year models. What will I be missing out on, if I get the corolla instead of a Yaris?

[SirDigby]

corolla has more options than yaris.
fuel econ. will be lower, but not much.
power is up 30% on corolla, weight is up 25%

you are missing out on fun with the automatic transaxle.
buy ether car, but buy a standard! (imo)

[ern-diz]

Since you asked, I don't believe the turning radius is as good.

[bentjazz]

I like the Corolla, but if and when I had to get another car, I think I'd still go with a
Yaris because I love the subcompactness of the car.

[WeeYari]

Rent a Corolla for a weekend.

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[M4One]

Get the Corolla. And, if you were willing to go new and in the budget, wait until the new 2019 hatchback goes on sale, if you could, before making a decision.

[kimona]

Given the choice, I'd definitely go with a Corolla... a more refined car and a surprisingly pleasant driving experience.

[tarkus]

Given the choice, I'd definitely go with a Corolla... a more refined car and a surprisingly pleasant driving experience.I have a friend who is obsessed with fuel economy, and bought a Corolla. He says the Corolla is more economical in long distance highway driving than the Yaris, while the Yaris is better in city traffic driving. YMMV :-)

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[Kalispel]

I personally like the last of the previous-gen Corolla (2012-2013) better than the current gen models (2014+). I would also opt for the now-discontinued reliable 4-spd automatic over the crappy Russian-Roulette CVT if you do go 2014+. Expensive, after-warranty head-unit failures in the newer touchscreen model is also fairly common with the 2014-2016 Corolla, from what I have read.

The 3rd-gen Yaris hatch (2012+) is also a great choice, especially in the SE trim - and they can be picked up at very nice prices. You can't beat that bulletproof drivetrain/engine combo, and it's a great little runabout car if you enjoy/prefer the minimalistic subcompact segment.

[kimona]

I agree with Kalispel. If you want a better driving/ownership experience, go with an "L" model Corolla rather than the "LE". The 4 speed automatic is a brilliant little transmission, while the CVT leaves a whole lot to be desired.

[zimmer]

Definitely go with Corolla if you need a better interior space.

[dogsridewith]

Luvin short humpy jouncy Gen2 Yaris hatch. But Gen 6 was last of sub-compact Corolla's, and the 5-door 5-speed wagon is it for sporty+utility. (Same weight and power as Yaris. Lower. Removable factory roof-rack. 35-36 mpg vs. 37-38 for the Yaris. Way less Hal.)

[07liftback]

I have a friend who is obsessed with fuel economy, and bought a Corolla. He says the Corolla is more economical in long distance highway driving than the Yaris, while the Yaris is better in city traffic driving. YMMV :-)

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My miata gets about the same mpg as the Yaris if driven the same way. So it's not too surprising that a Corolla could do a bit better. But at that point, seems like a prius is a better option given that they aren't much more expensive than a corolla and will get much better mpg. Professionally reconditioned batteries are quite affordable with the core charge.

[zoidberg444]

I don't know how different the Auris in the UK is from the North American Corolla but i drove a 2013 Auris the other week. It was quite nice. Fairly refined. It had a 1.6 petrol (1ZR-FE engine) and a 6 speed manual which was nice. It would do 42MPG on a motorway drive not being to crazy. The interior was nice. There is more to go wrong with them and i prefer the 55+MPG my Yaris does and the fact there is a lot less to go wrong with it and there are more parts in the scrapyards.

[SirDigby]

Rent a Corolla for a weekend.


what's really great about this is if you are in a heavy Urber or Lyft area (or ZipCar or whatever) the prices of rental cars has stayed way down. i blew up my 60A strip fuse a few weeks ago and had to order a positive terminal. i rented a 18 corolla for $26 a day wile waiting on shipping. it had 4 miles on it, ha!

[BennyLava]

It sounds like the MPG difference is so small that you might not even notice it. And if you need a larger interior, then obviously the Corolla would be the way to go.

But what if you value the extremely tight turning radius, and the ability to park anywhere in a yaris? It really is the perfect city car. Only thing that would make it better would be if it got 100 mpg instead of 35. For the city.

I don't live in the city (thank god) but I do like to go there sometimes. And I don't like dealing with all the city parking and turning BS. And in the Yaris, you don't have to. Cause its so good at it.

[DarkShadowFox]

if you get a yaris hatchback its easier and smaller and simpler to maintain then a corolla which is bigger heavier and less space to work on things. everything in the yaris can be mostly removed by hand with very little special tools.

[Hershey]

2014 - '17 Corolla have C.V.T. issues . Here's one , T-SB-0150-16 . We considered a new '17 or '18 Corolla until this was discovered . The L doesn't have keyless entry and has 195/65-15s' . The LE has 205/55-16 .

[BennyLava]

Ended up getting a corolla for a work car. Pics below. 2017 SE, paid. $17k for the car. 3k miles on it. Don't know who drove a new car for 3k miles and sold it, but I'll soak up the savings when it comes to depreciation. I really like the car except for 2 somewhat minor things:

1. The CVT transmission give me pause, but I'll just change the fluid every 80k miles to be safe. I don't care what they say about lifetime fluid, all reports are that you still need to change it and you should change it.

2. The seats could be a bit more comfortable. I think what I'll do is, wear these seats out first. At about 150k miles, our 09 Yaris sedan's front seat was toast. It hurt your rump to sit in it. So we had it redone at the upholstery shop with new foam. But in the case of this Corolla, I think maybe I'll switch to some different seats that don't hug you quite so much. Is there another corolla (maybe a non SE model?) that has some more comfortable seats? Something that would fit in place, that I could maybe get from the junkyard. Get some seats out of a newer wrecked car that match the interior.

[dogsridewith]

Or. Get nice neoprene/fabric seatcovers to save the original upholstery and add, underneath, piece(s) of 1/2" Walmart blue foam camp pad (polyolefin) to solve perceived fit problem.

(note: Sometimes ingrained/preconceived notions of seatback angle can cause discomfort...like w/ base model gen2 Yaris. Some others complain some. I found that a slightly more upright back and an occasional push back of the rump to engage the lumbar curve made these fantastic in this slightly-taller-than-Corolla vehicle. (For most trips, this positioning might just be a matter of getting back into the seat once at startup.)

I know a lot about seats and Wally bluefoam...riding and building recumbent bicycles since 1983.

[kimona]

Ended up getting a corolla for a work car. Pics below. 2017 SE, paid. $17k for the car. 3k miles on it. Don't know who drove a new car for 3k miles and sold it, but I'll soak up the savings when it comes to depreciation. I really like the car except for 2 somewhat minor things:

1. The CVT transmission give me pause, but I'll just change the fluid every 80k miles to be safe. I don't care what they say about lifetime fluid, all reports are that you still need to change it and you should change it.

2. The seats could be a bit more comfortable. I think what I'll do is, wear these seats out first. At about 150k miles, our 09 Yaris sedan's front seat was toast. It hurt your rump to sit in it. So we had it redone at the upholstery shop with new foam. But in the case of this Corolla, I think maybe I'll switch to some different seats that don't hug you quite so much. Is there another corolla (maybe a non SE model?) that has some more comfortable seats? Something that would fit in place, that I could maybe get from the junkyard. Get some seats out of a newer wrecked car that match the interior.

Unfortunately, all the new Corollas have the CVT now, and the driving experience leaves much to be desired. Hope it proves reliable for you.

My father has a 2015 Corolla L (4 speed auto) and the seats are so uncomfortable that I can't drive that car for more than 20 minutes without suffering aches and pains. Too bad. My mother has a 2005 Corolla (only 36K kilometers) and the seats are very comfortable, even for long trips.

I sold my like-new Camry with very low miles specifically because the seats gave me a terribly sore back. When I was looking for a new car, I decided against a 2017 RAV4 because the seats were so uncomfortable.

However, I always found the seats in my 2007 Yaris and 2014 Yaris comfortable, even driving across the country!

[scylla]

I wish car makers would put the same kind of effort into seat technology as they do into the rest of auto tech.

[Runethecursed]

New Prices and EPA released. I sincerely hope this car is as good as I am hyping it up to be Click this link. Do et! (https://www.tflcar.com/2018/05/2019-corolla-hatchback-pricing/)

Base model SE is based around 20K, Where as With CVT Itll jump to Closer to 23k
XSE starts around 22.9k and will jump to 24k and then a big tech package for another 1.6k

Base model said to have 31 City, which from expereince in the Socal area, itll be more like 28 which is still really good. Highway for the CVT pushes over 40 mpg


Am excite. I just hope I fit fine. and the controls arent wonky. now a days I have a go no go on cars if i dont like how i see out of it or how the controls are laid out. (sans the 2nd gen Yaris...)

[BennyLava]

Whoops here's the pics.

I can see why the CVT gets such high highway mpg. At 80 mph its only hovering around 2k rpm. IIRC the yaris is at about 3k rpm at 80mph. We didn't trade in the Yaris sedan for the corolla though. Ain't no way I'm parting with that car. With only 200k on the clock, I figure its only about 1/3 of the way through its life. :thumbup: And it still looks great!

[BennyLava]

Pics:

https://i.imgur.com/281rUuk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/e88YfUW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5BUOt5F.jpg

[Kalispel]

Not a fan of the latest gen Corolla, though it still looks better than the latest gen Civic. The cheap-looking brownish muffler on the Corolla sticks out like a sore thumb when you see the car from the rear on the road, and the narrow wheelbase & lower body shape gives it a skinny/weak stance from the rear. Plus, the CVT hasn't exactly been reliable for a good number of Corolla owners. Toyota could definitely learn a thing or two about body shape & styling from Hyundai/Kia and various European brands. I wonder if the new TNGA 2020 Corolla will just be a clone of the new 2019 TNGA Corolla hatch in sedan form, or have distinctive styling elements of its own?

[BennyLava]

I don't really mind the styling. I mean if we're being realistic here, its just a fuel saving 4 door work car. That is all a toyota corolla is ever going to be. If it was something special I'd be more particular about the way it looked. I didn't want to do the whole "hunt for a car for a month" thing. Sometimes you get lucky and the perfect car just comes up on autotrader or craigslist, for a reasonable price. That is how it was with the Yaris sedan. Went and snatched it right up before someone else could. But this time it was slim pickings for a Corolla in my area that was priced right, that wasn't junky. There was one that I'd have bought that had it all (looks, price, mileage, features) but of course when I got to the dealership it was gone. And I just had zero desire to drive from dealer to dealer asking if they had any corollas.

I like the way the CVT acts on the highway, its got that much going for it at least. When it comes to cruising at higher speeds. It gets high marks from me in that one area. They'd probably have to add another gear, going from a 4 speed auto to a 5 speed in order to get it to be like the CVT cause yeah 2k rpm at 80mph. My yaris can't do it. So a larger car that can come close to (or match) the MPG of a yaris is a winner in my book. At least in that particular scenario.

And it never fails, no automaker (or boat maker lol) makes things the way I'd want it. They leave things out, and here and there quality is a bit lacking like the muffler issue you pointed out. If I have to paint the brown muffler with high temp header paint, I'll do it. I knew from the beginning there would be things I'd change. I'd probably change things on a Rolls Royce to suit me. Lastly I keep getting hints about the car's performance. Maybe not here (although from here to some degree) but lots of other places. Again, its a toyota corolla. Not a Ferarri. I can't imagine who'd complain about the performance of a Toyota Corolla. I mean, what do you expect? lol

[Kalispel]

I don't really mind the styling. I mean if we're being realistic here, its just a fuel saving 4 door work car. That is all a toyota corolla is ever going to be. If it was something special I'd be more particular about the way it looked. I didn't want to do the whole "hunt for a car for a month" thing. Sometimes you get lucky and the perfect car just comes up on autotrader or craigslist, for a reasonable price. That is how it was with the Yaris sedan. Went and snatched it right up before someone else could. But this time it was slim pickings for a Corolla in my area that was priced right, that wasn't junky. There was one that I'd have bought that had it all (looks, price, mileage, features) but of course when I got to the dealership it was gone. And I just had zero desire to drive from dealer to dealer asking if they had any corollas.

I like the way the CVT acts on the highway, its got that much going for it at least. When it comes to cruising at higher speeds. It gets high marks from me in that one area. They'd probably have to add another gear, going from a 4 speed auto to a 5 speed in order to get it to be like the CVT cause yeah 2k rpm at 80mph. My yaris can't do it. So a larger car that can come close to (or match) the MPG of a yaris is a winner in my book. At least in that particular scenario.

And it never fails, no automaker (or boat maker lol) makes things the way I'd want it. They leave things out, and here and there quality is a bit lacking like the muffler issue you pointed out. If I have to paint the brown muffler with high temp header paint, I'll do it. I knew from the beginning there would be things I'd change. I'd probably change things on a Rolls Royce to suit me. Lastly I keep getting hints about the car's performance. Maybe not here (although from here to some degree) but lots of other places. Again, its a toyota corolla. Not a Ferarri. I can't imagine who'd complain about the performance of a Toyota Corolla. I mean, what do you expect? lol

Yeah, I never understood the bashing the Yaris & Corolla receives on 'performance' - most notably the horsepower. They were obviously designed to be daily driver economy cars, first & foremost (meaning engine horsepower specs vs curb weight that do 0-60 in 9-10 sec range). I think that is frustration with Toyota's refusal to release a true 'sports tuned' (more powerful engine) trim version (like the Si trim is for Honda, for example) of the Yaris or Corolla here in the U.S./NA.

Even the new 2019 TNGA Corolla hatch is getting grief from some, & it is a big step up from the current Corolla in the performance vs economy balance that Toyota seems to prize above all else. All information indicates that it will match/beat the current iM/Corolla in MPG economy & still do 0-60 in 8 sec or less (plus be great fun to drive on the curves/corners thanks to a nice suspension setup). Sounds almost perfect to me personally. Plus the new CVT w/launch gear design removes the crap rubbery feel of the CVT at gaining speed from rest, and puts the launch gear in charge of the activity that normally puts the most strain on a CVT system to reduce its lifespan/reliability. Win-win. The new engine also uses a combination of port & direct injection to eliminate that carbon build-up problem that some other types of direct inject engines suffer from. Some styling issues aside (IMO), I think Toyota is definitely on the right path here. :thumbsup:

[dogsridewith]

does air flow through the grilles ahead of the front wheels?
is there a lamp(s) in there somewhere?
can U turn them into a fog/driving light w/ some Toyota or aftermarket option?
do any tuners use front corner look-like-intakes into actual intakes for brake cooling or any other actual/ostensible function?