Manual tranny Yaris

[bentjazz]

I might have a chance to buy a manual transmission 2010 Yaris. Before I do so, anything I should know about any potential problems with this type of transmission in the Yaris? How do those who have the manual transmission in the Yaris like it? If I do this, I'll be passing my current Yaris onto my nephew and keeping this one for myself.
Thanks.

[SirDigby]

uh..it's pretty okay. i haven't had issues. i got mine at 60,xxx miles, changed the oil with royal purple 75w-90. that was...2 years ago (?) i'm at 100,270 today. still feels the same as when i changed it. i will probably change it again soon with something formulated for MT, or redline 75w-90.
the only issue i have is getting into 1st gear wile rolling, like in traffic; slowing for a red light that turns green and i'm at like 6 or 7 mph. it does not want to go into first and i have to start in 2nd all slow... or it grinds into 1st. i think there might be a clutch issue though. it might be super worn, and there might be a bubble in the line. to my knowledge it is the original clutch...

[bentjazz]

Thank you, SirDigby.

[AdamdangA]

I have a 2010, currently sitting at 190,000 miles with original clutch and everything. I wouldn't hesitate.

[thebarber]

manual yarii are solid. its a 2400lb car....you REALLY have to hamfist it to break it.

i never broke mine and i was boosted and i used to auto-x and lap it.

my echo has 240k miles on it and its fine, too

[dogsridewith]

My 145k mile 2007 is so stiff into a slow rolling shift to first that I consider this to be an obstacle to the car being a good rock crawler. (Low front bumper cover is another.) It would be entering a slow steep climbing section for the 2-1 shift, and the car would be stopped by the time a double-clutch was finished!

It isn't the clutch. They do engage down near the stop, but I got a bit of height and some gritty brake fluid by bleeding when I first got the car.

Test drive before buying to find grinds, stiffness and/or clinks in all the 2 through 5 upshifts and downshifts.

[redbean]

My '09 with ~120k miles does not have any issues if I get a rolling start into 1st (in fact, I downshifted into 1st while climbing up a hill the other day.) I don't think the clutch has ever been replaced, because the previous owners said they bought it with 20k miles.

The one weird thing is it feels like it grabs twice and slows down really fast in 1st and 2nd when I let off the gas. I'm thinking this is because of the decelerative fuel cutoff. Does anyone else experience this? It's kind of inconveniently jerky when I'm trying to coast along in traffic at 2-3mph with the clutch out and giving the gas light taps.

EDIT: it also has no tach which is a bit challenging because it's my first manual car. I'm surviving though.

[dogsridewith]

I think mine may have some of that jerk in throttle transitions from driving to engine braking in first gear. Could be in part due to naturally soft engine mounts and worn mounts. I still get some chatter starting in reverse sometimes.

[CrankyOldMan]

For your average commuter that doesn't push it to the limits and understands how to shift, it's rock solid. I've been beating on mine for the last 5+ years, went boosted and now have the 1.8L swapped in. No mechanical issues to report from the gearbox.

[thebarber]

You have to rev match to first. I have no problem getting into first in mine.

[DarkShadowFox]

just start in first gear and let go of the clutch and add the gas.

[zoidberg444]

Manual transmission is the norm in the UK and Europe. First time i drove an auto was a hire car in Canada when i was 23.

I've been driving my 5 speed Yaris for 7 years, i changed the clutch last year at 130,000 (i think) miles although the clutch had been abused a little. Only thing i notice is sometimes it takes 2 attempts to get into reverse sometimes, like the syncros are not quite grabbing. Normally clutching again and it will go in. Same every now and again where it won't go in first. I've seen other Toyota gearboxes behave the same way. Normally clutching again it will go in fine. I've actually driven a Corolla that suffered a catastrophic failure of 3rd/4th and reverse gear for a week and i managed with driving that around. I'd never want to drive an automatic.

Currently running a "rot gut" 75w90 semi synthetic GL4 gearbox oil made by Comma in my gearbox and it seems fine.

[thebarber]

Reverse doesn’t have syncros . Sometimes you need to double clutch in order for things to line up to get it into reverse.

[tmontague]

It's normal for a m/t car to "buck" in first gear. If you want to roll in traffic in 1st then you'll have to press the clutch pedal

[zimmer]

Reverse doesn’t have syncros . Sometimes you need to double clutch in order for things to line up to get it into reverse.

Same here and shouldn't be a problem at all.

[dogsridewith]

These stiff-when-rolling first gears in the 5-speed manual--did anyone have one like that when the car was brand new? Did anyone have one where the rolling 2-1 shift-shifting got easier over time/miles?

[Leegamer]

These stiff-when-rolling first gears in the 5-speed manual--did anyone have one like that when the car was brand new? Did anyone have one where the rolling 2-1 shift-shifting got easier over time/miles?

Never had that issue, but I have always double-clutched for every downshift in my car. It is an easy skill to learn and will add years to the life your transmission if done correctly.

Also, it's fun....and you can combine it with heel-toeing and put on some eurobeat and go to down like Takumi Fujiwara.

[IllusionX]

Reverse doesn’t have syncros . Sometimes you need to double clutch in order for things to line up to get it into reverse.Or just put it in 1st before going into reverse. It has become a habit heheheThese stiff-when-rolling first gears in the 5-speed manual--did anyone have one like that when the car was brand new? Did anyone have one where the rolling 2-1 shift-shifting got easier over time/miles?Mine is stiff trying to get in 1st on a rolling stop, but works every time I double clutch.
I don't remember how it was when new, it's been 12 years lol

I'm at about 110k miles

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[redbean]

It's normal for a m/t car to "buck" in first gear. If you want to roll in traffic in 1st then you'll have to press the clutch pedal

And that's a great way to burn out your clutch / throwout bearing, right? I guess I have to change my driving style a bit. In the US where everyone drives automatics, everyone creeps up in traffic because all you do is let your foot off the brake. Now when I drive an automatic, it's starting to feel weird that it pulls forward without my foot on the gas.

When you all say "double clutch into reverse", do you mean after going forward and stopping, or just any time you put it into reverse? Do you rev it? My Yaris crunches into reverse about 75% of the time regardless of whether I just started the car and back out of a parking space, or go from 1st to R to parallel park.

I'm also trying to work on making sure the revs are right when shifting, but it's hard to know where I'm supposed to be without a tach.

[dogsridewith]

No need to double clutch into reverse...in fact single clutch probably works better. If in neutral and idling, push down the clutch pedal (to the floor stop on a Yaris), shift into second and then, without touching throttle or lifting clutch foot, shift right over into reverse. Skillfully add throttle and lift clutch foot to drive backwards.

(And stop the car before doing all this.)
(Doesn't have to be second gear to do this, but might as well use a forward gear that isn't sticky or showing worn syncro symptoms.)

[bentjazz]

Finally got around to test driving the low miles, manual Yaris mentioned in this post. The manual shifter felt like what I imagine a 90 year old with arthritis feels like....stiff as hell. I must say I wasn't impressed, at all. Perhaps it was just that particular Yaris. Be that as it may, I'll be sticking with my automatic Yaris for the foreseeable future. While I was there, I did drive one of their Honda Fit manuals. It was a dream compared to the Yaris. Smooth as silk and a real pleasure to drive. If it didn't have so many miles, I might have bought it.

[dogsridewith]

Finally got around to test driving the low miles, manual Yaris mentioned in this post. The manual shifter felt like what I imagine a 90 year old with arthritis feels like....stiff as hell. I must say I wasn't impressed, at all. Perhaps it was just that particular Yaris. Be that as it may, I'll be sticking with my automatic Yaris for the foreseeable future. While I was there, I did drive one of their Honda Fit manuals. It was a dream compared to the Yaris. Smooth as silk and a real pleasure to drive. If it didn't have so many miles, I might have bought it.

Stiff into which gears?
Did the clutch release (the motor loads up and the car starts to move) when the pedal is still almost right at the floor stop?

[bentjazz]

dogsridewith, seemed like it was stiff into all gears. It really sucked, to be quite honest. The shifting process was sound, but it was just stiff in all gears. I couldn't imagine driving that Yaris every day. I'd go bonkers and end up in the nut house, for sure. Love my auto Yaris, however. In all actuality, there had to be something wrong with that manual. First time I've ever driven a Yaris manual, so I hope to God not all Yaris manuals are like that one. The Honda Fit manual, however, was really awesome. Loved it.

[DarkShadowFox]

dogsridewith, seemed like it was stiff into all gears. It really sucked, to be quite honest. The shifting process was sound, but it was just stiff in all gears. I couldn't imagine driving that Yaris every day. I'd go bonkers and end up in the nut house, for sure. Love my auto Yaris, however. In all actuality, there had to be something wrong with that manual. First time I've ever driven a Yaris manual, so I hope to God not all Yaris manuals are like that one. The Honda Fit manual, however, was really awesome. Loved it.

short shifter.

[dogsridewith]

Maybe why it was for sale.

[redbean]

I have to say, I drove a Honda Fit manual before I pulled the trigger on the Yaris, and I hated the shifter. It felt like cheap plastic and metal that would explode in my hand if I shifted it too aggressively.

[maximumunicorn]

I just test drove an '08 Yaris base with 56k miles and the manual transmission felt great to me (shifter wasn't stiff in this example at least). I prefer it to the two Fits I've test driven. Clutch engagement is higher in the pedal stroke than I was expecting in the Yaris, but nothing you couldn't get used to.