Help! Sign the Petition! Lets get Toyota to bring the Yaris GRMN to Canada and the US

[thelintonwyrm]

Hi Folks,

I have started a petition to bring the Toyota Yaris GRMN to the USA and Canadian Markets. Help this cause by signing it, and sending it to other Yaris enthusiasts you know. We know we want it, its worth the effort. Yes?

Any moderators, are you able to put this link up with other sites that would be sympathetic to our cause?

With much thanks to all who participate,
Rob Somerville
Wpg, MB. Canada.

https://www.change.org/p/noriaki-yamashita-bring-the-toyota-yaris-grmn-to-canada-and-us-markets?recruiter=370561284&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=Search%3ESAP%3ECA%3ENonBrand-Tier%201%3ECreation%3EBMM

[Leegamer]

Sure, I'll sign it. why not? lol

[CrankyOldMan]

Boy, that's a tough sell. Even if you get a hundred signatures, how many of them would actually drop the $50k to buy one? That also assumes that there's no safety/emissions standards that have to be met--and paid for by Toyota--before they can sell it here. It's the same chassis, so it's *probably* not a big deal for crash testing, but the emissions would likely kill it in Canada and California. I'm sure someone at Toyota has counted up the beans and made the financial decision not to offer it here for a reason. Just look at the Focus RS and how briefly it was offered here for comparison--and it already had a big demand because of the ST variants.

That said, I'd love to have the opportunity to buy one some day, so I'll sign it. =)

[Leegamer]

Boy, that's a tough sell. Even if you get a hundred signatures, how many of them would actually drop the $50k to buy one? That also assumes that there's no safety/emissions standards that have to be met--and paid for by Toyota--before they can sell it here. It's the same chassis, so it's *probably* not a big deal for crash testing, but the emissions would likely kill it in Canada and California. I'm sure someone at Toyota has counted up the beans and made the financial decision not to offer it here for a reason. Just look at the Focus RS and how briefly it was offered here for comparison--and it already had a big demand because of the ST variants.

That said, I'd love to have the opportunity to buy one some day, so I'll sign it. =)

Exactly how I feel.

[WeeYari]

It's the same chassis, so it's *probably* not a big deal for crash testing

Just take a look at the much coveted Gen2 JDM RS bumpers that we North Americans drool over. Safety standards here required beefier crash bars, so right there, new bumpers need to be designed. Won't happen for an optimistic market of a dozen cars at the price point we would see here.



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[ern-diz]

+1 on others' comments about it never happening, but didn't cost me anything to sign it.

[06YarisRS]

:smile: 7 signatures now....

[DarkShadowFox]

Just take a look at the much coveted Gen2 JDM RS bumpers that we North Americans drool over. Safety standards here required beefier crash bars, so right there, new bumpers need to be designed. Won't happen for an optimistic market of a dozen cars at the price point we would see here.



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you do realize that its a USDM spec yaris LE 3 door with SE rear brakes and avics one off brakes with the yaris sedan rain sensor for the wipers and the Lotus Elise or whatever corolla motor 2zrfe with a magussion r900 supercharger v6 injectors and a 6 speed gearbox with a tortion LSD you can build this entire car for when i priced out for about 10 grand a piece not including the labor and time and the unique seats that come with it. alot of the stuff im not mentioning because its privy to my own collection but its not complex or hard. getting it to sell here? unlikely. the focus RS was a hothatch and it barely sold.

but selling it for 50k unlikely getting to sell for 25-30k easy alot of it is just going to lotus and toyota of Europe and japan and going give me this and this and this they already make an LHD version for spain so its probably most likely in the works, i talked to a spain owner on IG because im connected to all the GRMN owners and ive even went off on one for not being happy enough with a rare car (ungrateful bastard)

in reality when i had pull i was part of the push behind it i had talked with toyota UK about putting a v6 in the yaris for a good 300hp but have found its way too front heavy and would turn the car into a litteral drag car with no turning radius at all and totally kill the dyamics, since then i have been researching other engines that can fit into the vehicle but not have had much luck. most of them are easy though because it would save on development costs lots of drag and drop and frankenstinening very minimal cost from toyota.

but nobodys going to buy this unless it comes with a telescoping steering wheel, id rather see toyota add one then make a GRMN and add power/ heated seats and NVH in the doors with dyanamat and more interior options and colors and rims and the TRD sportivo kit be a dealer option and the rear swaybar be a dealer option and rear disc brakes be a dealer option for the 3 doors then see a grmn,

if anything they should give us a supercharger kit that bumps it up another 100 horse and is AT and MT compatable and that would really sell the car and give it some styling that reflects how the car is sold in japan currently it looks like a giant whale/ fish/ open gaped puppy dog and is just anemically underpowered, ive read the specs on the 1nzfe pentaroof head, aluminum everything its just not worth it to tune unless toyota lets tuners crack the ECU and even then what? 300hp out of a 1.5L will unrealiable as crap

so its a tough market in america not to mention canada where it snows? performance FWD that has a bangy tortion LSD on blizzaks would be a nightmare.

so ill sign but i dont see much coming out of this, ive been pushing for months now to get it to america and i was the mild catalist behind it.


hit me up on ig: thehellastockusdm3rdgenyaris

[thebarber]

$34k USD for a yaris? my wife would string me up.

they can't even sell a $15k yaris in the US.

[tmontague]

you do realize that its a USDM spec yaris LE 3 door with SE rear brakes and avics one off brakes with the yaris sedan rain sensor for the wipers and the Lotus Elise or whatever corolla motor 2zrfe with a magussion r900 supercharger v6 injectors and a 6 speed gearbox with a tortion LSD you can build this entire car for when i priced out for about 10 grand a piece not including the labor and time and the unique seats that come with it. alot of the stuff im not mentioning because its privy to my own collection but its not complex or hard. getting it to sell here? unlikely. the focus RS was a hothatch and it barely sold.

but selling it for 50k unlikely getting to sell for 25-30k easy alot of it is just going to lotus and toyota of Europe and japan and going give me this and this and this they already make an LHD version for spain so its probably most likely in the works, i talked to a spain owner on IG because im connected to all the GRMN owners and ive even went off on one for not being happy enough with a rare car (ungrateful bastard)

in reality when i had pull i was part of the push behind it i had talked with toyota UK about putting a v6 in the yaris for a good 300hp but have found its way too front heavy and would turn the car into a litteral drag car with no turning radius at all and totally kill the dyamics, since then i have been researching other engines that can fit into the vehicle but not have had much luck. most of them are easy though because it would save on development costs lots of drag and drop and frankenstinening very minimal cost from toyota.

but nobodys going to buy this unless it comes with a telescoping steering wheel, id rather see toyota add one then make a GRMN and add power/ heated seats and NVH in the doors with dyanamat and more interior options and colors and rims and the TRD sportivo kit be a dealer option and the rear swaybar be a dealer option and rear disc brakes be a dealer option for the 3 doors then see a grmn,

if anything they should give us a supercharger kit that bumps it up another 100 horse and is AT and MT compatable and that would really sell the car and give it some styling that reflects how the car is sold in japan currently it looks like a giant whale/ fish/ open gaped puppy dog and is just anemically underpowered, ive read the specs on the 1nzfe pentaroof head, aluminum everything its just not worth it to tune unless toyota lets tuners crack the ECU and even then what? 300hp out of a 1.5L will unrealiable as crap

so its a tough market in america not to mention canada where it snows? performance FWD that has a bangy tortion LSD on blizzaks would be a nightmare.

so ill sign but i dont see much coming out of this, ive been pushing for months now to get it to america and i was the mild catalist behind it.


hit me up on ig: thehellastockusdm3rdgenyaris

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[DarkShadowFox]

$34k USD for a yaris? my wife would string me up.

they can't even sell a $15k yaris in the US.


its as fast as a porsche boxter and more reliable.

[Leegamer]

Which motor is in the grmn? I haven't been able to find the code. I know the legit rally car uses a destroked 2zz. It says it's a 1.8 so it could be the the 2ZR-FE or the 2ZZ.

[DarkShadowFox]

Which motor is in the grmn? I haven't been able to find the code. I know the legit rally car uses a destroked 2zz. It says it's a 1.8 so it could be the the 2ZR-FE or the 2ZZ.

its the basic 1.8L 2zrf 2zz is not emissions legal. in the new yarises.

[Leegamer]

its the basic 1.8L 2zrf 2zz is not emissions legal. in the new yarises.

Ah, so a supercharged 2ZR. That's pretty cool, I guess.

[DarkShadowFox]

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[DarkShadowFox]

Ah, so a supercharged 2ZR. That's pretty cool, I guess.

its not cheap the motor is cheap to do that stuff to it your looking at 3-5 grand for the supercharger plus the v6 injectors which i have not been able to figure out which V6 but probably the 2gr. and a host of other BS. not only that youd still need to get the bucket seats which are one offs from toyota boshuko and not for sale,

ive even tried to find the original GRMN style ones and there not for sale either croober sold 200 of them and none are really around.

you can get the steering wheel thats similar to it its a REAL steering wheel from japan about 700 plus 2 in shipping from japan.


the gauge cluster which is not mass produced and only made as replacement will set you back 2300 USD as there are no salvage ones.

then youd need the black interior pieces and to redo the headliner in alacantra its a mess. complicated but im sure i can get it done on mine in the next 9 years.

[CrankyOldMan]

The "simplest" solution for this is to just find a wrecked Series 2 Elise with the supercharged 2ZR motor. Buy the drivetrain and engine electronics. Follow the already well documented 2ZR swaps elsewhere on this site. Done. =)

[justanotherdrunk]

signed

[DarkShadowFox]

The "simplest" solution for this is to just find a wrecked Series 2 Elise with the supercharged 2ZR motor. Buy the drivetrain and engine electronics. Follow the already well documented 2ZR swaps elsewhere on this site. Done. =)

it still has to be same year same car in america for the swap to be legal in most states that you would actually want to drive it in ie california non salt belt areas non hurricane areas.

but funding one of those is a pain in the butt. plus i want to keep mine an autobox because i dont like manuals so still leaves those really rare seats that i need.

i found a secondary alternative but i cant reveal what because id like them first. :headbang:

regardless a warrantied factory build new car will always fit better then any vehicle someone puts together because its all automated and perfect.

so we want the GRMN in america and canada. its really simple stop walling us.


Edit: forgot to add ive been assembling a GR for a while now on my own yaris and have almost 90% of the parts documented but there really expensive and one off so it will take some time.

also forgot to add that SPAIN get a LHD version of the GRMN.

ive always wondered if these are made to order..... hmmmm....................

[Leegamer]

regardless a warrantied factory build new car will always fit better then any vehicle someone puts together because its all automated and perfect.



Definitely disagree with that.

[DarkShadowFox]

Definitely disagree with that.

do you want the car or not here in america. i disagree with that because the GRMN is built on the same plant as where the yaris is built and hand assembled perfectly.

they had to dev new processes to build 7 GRMN a day and to paint the roof black, they also have people from lotus and whatnot working on the same line to put it together and had entirely new training processes, the 3 door is much more rigid then the 4 door, spot welds " just marketing" to support those extra doors making it heavier and a "sport tuned suspension" read the same suspension but marketing

i want to see it, I'm tired of toyota making bland and horrible cars. time to step up the game its 2018.

you may be old and disagreeable but im not one for buying a fast sporty yaris that can put porsches to shame for half the money.

and id like to add that before everyone jumped on the corolla engine wagon i had already worked out the entire deal with jerkratt but have moved onto another engine now because everyone seems to take my ideas :c

[Leegamer]

do you want the car or not here in america. i disagree with that because the GRMN is built on the same plant as where the yaris is built and hand assembled perfectly.

they had to dev new processes to build 7 GRMN a day and to paint the roof black, they also have people from lotus and whatnot working on the same line to put it together and had entirely new training processes, the 3 door is much more rigid then the 4 door, spot welds " just marketing" to support those extra doors making it heavier and a "sport tuned suspension" read the same suspension but marketing

i want to see it, I'm tired of toyota making bland and horrible cars. time to step up the game its 2018.

You made a very generalized statement about factory cars being "perfect and automated." I'm sure the GRMN is built to a higher standard as it's a limited run car, so yes it could potentially be better than a standard yaris. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't be able to build a car in my garage that could perform just as well for less, though.

I very much doubt we will see a GRMN yaris in the US. We always get the short end of the stick with hot hatches.

[DarkShadowFox]

You made a very generalized statement about factory cars being "perfect and automated." I'm sure the GRMN is built to a higher standard as it's a limited run car, so yes it could potentially be better than a standard yaris. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't be able to build a car in my garage that could perform just as well for less, though.

I very much doubt we will see a GRMN yaris in the US. We always get the short end of the stick with hot hatches.

ill be building one regardless ive already got most of the pieces. and no we dont get the short stick end of the deal its that the american companies pour money into restricting the japanese and forgien companies by making it extremely expensive to bring these types of cars in and then the american cars end up being built to crap like the ford RS blowing headgaskets like how can something so expensive fail a quality check like that.

people dont want toyotas performance vehicles because they undercut the market and perform better then the american cars which have a higher profit margin because american companies are all about selling and how much money they can make and how much they can sell where the forgien companies ie toyota follow kaizen and much different business practices that have practically sunk the american market ie why the baillouts happened and why people bought jap cars in the 80s during the gas crisis.

this whole restriction thing is antiquidated and causes the us to be in further and further debt i have spent what about 3 grand total importing parts from japan and putting together my yaris? its a pain. and its all the same stuff.

Edit:

crash standards on a tiny yaris bumper with a diffuser and 2014 style long overhand lights arent going to save you more then the standard kit or be any worse for that matter. the GR/ GS rear lights from japan are actually LED and are brigher and safer in all conditions and more visible and are non pulsing type sporty or not its all going to fold the same in a crash 8 inch crash bumpers or euro crash bumpers.

also those crash bumpers for the jap and euro models are called type B or type C i forget you can get it in my GSIC that was posted to another thread.

[Pinchlite]

I would be happy with a normal yaris with a turbo.If crappy chevy/GM can put out a car with 138HP spark why doesnt toyota do this.It would be a true RS instead of just sideskirts and different seats.I love the yaris but next car will have more power.

[tmontague]

I would be happy with a normal yaris with a turbo.If crappy chevy/GM can put out a car with 138HP spark why doesnt toyota do this.It would be a true RS instead of just sideskirts and different seats.I love the yaris but next car will have more power.

"Doing" a 138 hp car is a lot different than building a reliable 138hp turbo car. GM does a lot of things and they di a lot of things poorly. Sub compact cars and turbos are some.of those things. Ask all the turbo Cruze owners with blown turbo oil and water lines...

I hear you about a true sports segment for the subcompact from Toyota, but I reality Toyota's focus seems to be reliability and sports cars are not up there in priority

[Pinchlite]

Too bad.130HP yaris HB would be perfect.

GTI for my next car, kind'a weary of the reliability though.

[tmontague]

Too bad.130HP yaris HB would be perfect.

GTI for my next car, kind'a weary of the reliability though.

Trust me, a 130hp yaris is awesome but never perfect. Ine you got 130 you want more and so on and so forth.

GTI would no doubt be fun, just get used to chasing electrical issues and fixing broken motors and relays. Fun var none the less just dont expect near yaris reliability that's all

[DarkShadowFox]

"Doing" a 138 hp car is a lot different than building a reliable 138hp turbo car. GM does a lot of things and they di a lot of things poorly. Sub compact cars and turbos are some.of those things. Ask all the turbo Cruze owners with blown turbo oil and water lines...

I hear you about a true sports segment for the subcompact from Toyota, but I reality Toyota's focus seems to be reliability and sports cars are not up there in priority

well they should of just build a sports line with the yaris, nobody asked for a butchering of the Ae86 and the supra. sometimes its best to just let things be things and live on in unaffordability. ferrari does it porsche does it, so what if a supras expensive now its prevent everyone and there momma building a 1200hp car for under 30k it undercuts companies like bugatti and all the supercar owners and is bad for the economy like real bad.

now everyone just LS swaps and has an instant 500hp car.