Just ordered new TRD rear sway bar

[06YarisRS]

I'd been looking for a used one for a while but they are clearly scarce.

Delivered to my US post box for $173.00 USD. Not too bad.

Can't wait to install it.

[ern-diz]

I don't think that's a bad price. Some users have enjoyed the Whiteline bar. Not sure if you looked at those.

[06YarisRS]

I don't think that's a bad price. Some users have enjoyed the Whiteline bar. Not sure if you looked at those.

Yes, I did look at the Whiteline bar. They were more expensive and look like a lot more work to install. I'll do some more reading on them. I made the assumption, maybe falsely, that TRD would know the car best and as such develop the most appropriate product for it.

In the meantime, I've been watching youtube videos on suspension components/functions, oversteer, understeer etc. Quite fascinating stuff, actually. I hope that the TRD bar doesn't make the car too stiff and make me lose traction in the rear. Basically, the videos I watched led me to believe that in daily driving situations, that stabilizer bars are effective, but maybe less desireable on a race track.

Oh, yeah, and I do a lot of highway driving, so hoping that the sway bar will make the car a little more stable at highway speeds. Plus, living on the coast we get a lot of buffeting winds and the little Yaris is pretty susceptible to them. :)

[NYC-SE]

I think you will be very pleased with the sway bar. I too have heard that it's not best for the track, I don't know if that's actually true as I have never tracked my car but as far as the street is concerned it was the best money I spent on my car.

Yes it will help with highway drift. No it won't make the rear suspension too stiff. And yes it will help in the curves. Enjoy.

[stidnam]

There's not much more to installing the Whiteline one other than bolting the bar to the actual torsion beam using the supplied bracket - just did mine a couple of weeks back. We don't even have the option of a TRD bar in Aus. This is a very simple job in comparison to replacing an engine ;)

But yes, buy one - they both do the same job, except the Whiteline one being adjustable for all its worth.

For a daily driver, it'll dramatically improve how flat the car feels through a corner. Wouldn't worry about what people say about the track unless you plan to turn this into some dedicated track car. You'll still have plenty of fun with it on the odd track day.

Yes, you do need to be conscious about lift off oversteer, but not worried about it. Putting one of these bars on is instantly going to make you want to throw some decent rubber on it :)

[06YarisRS]

I think you will be very pleased with the sway bar. I too have heard that it's not best for the track, I don't know if that's actually true as I have never tracked my car but as far as the street is concerned it was the best money I spent on my car.

Yes it will help with highway drift. No it won't make the rear suspension too stiff. And yes it will help in the curves. Enjoy.

Thanks NYC-SE. I read posts by you and others before about the sway bar and no doubt they contributed to my desire to obtain one. I've definitely heard others express the notion that it's one of the best investments a person can make for the car. Can't wait! :biggrin: Only downside is that I'll have to wait until spring to enjoy the benefits. Well, maybe I can get the car out once or twice when the roads are clear. Haha

[06YarisRS]

There's not much more to installing the Whiteline one other than bolting the bar to the actual torsion beam using the supplied bracket - just did mine a couple of weeks back. We don't even have the option of a TRD bar in Aus. This is a very simple job in comparison to replacing an engine ;)

But yes, buy one - they both do the same job, except the Whiteline one being adjustable for all its worth.

For a daily driver, it'll dramatically improve how flat the car feels through a corner. Wouldn't worry about what people say about the track unless you plan to turn this into some dedicated track car. You'll still have plenty of fun with it on the odd track day.

Yes, you do need to be conscious about lift off oversteer, but not worried about it. Putting one of these bars on is instantly going to make you want to throw some decent rubber on it :)

Thanks Stidnam. I really like the look and apparent simplicity of the TRD bar. Maybe after installing the TRD bar, I will feel that having adjustment ability would be an asset. But, from what everybody is saying, I'm sure I'll be happy with it. I don't recall anyone mentioning if the sway bars make the ride rougher or not. Personally, I like the ride characteristics of the OEM suspension in regard to up and down movements. Cornering will no doubt be improved. And yes, tires will be a consideration in the future. Right now, I have 195's on my OEM wheels and I'm sure that this wide a tire on a relatively narrow rim is not helping much in terms of cornering. I like a wider tire look, but also love my OEM alloys.

[Fluxtasy]

I've been using mine for over 2 months now. The engineering is a work of beauty as it is tucked right below the torsion beam unlike UR :thumbdown:

I'd say it is street spec as you would notice a slight bit of additional stiffness. Those who track or autocross may feel it too soft and prefer UR 23mm instead.

[tmontague]

I agree that the TRD bar does a great job of hiding away nicely. For a dd it is a great addition and will help with highway stability, reducing understeer slightly and stiffening up the rear end.

It is true however, that it will essentially turn the rear from a semi independent suspension into a more solid axle type suspension. If you ever remove your shocks in the rear bounce one side of the rear torsion beam and you will see how independant they truly are, it is impressive. The rsb will remove much of the independace. So for the track you want to use proper spring rates to control the rear body roll and adjust damper settings to control under/over steer. This allows you to maintain rear traction and the originally semi independant design.

For your application it is a great addition and you will really enjoy it. The install is super straight forward

[stidnam]

Yup, as mentioned by Fluxtasy, there's a slight bit of additional stiffness to the ride, but not much.

If the TRD was cheaper than the whiteline, that's what I would have bought as well. The adjustability isn't worth the extra money, and it's not like I'm ever going to change it.

Stock wheels are 5.5j. My personal preference for a 195 is 6.5 or 7j, running a 50 or 55 sidewall depending on the wheel size. Each to their own :)

[WeeYari]

Maybe after installing the TRD bar, I will feel that having adjustment ability would be an asset.
No you won't.


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[06YarisRS]

All this positive feedback about the TRD bar is really building my anticipation. It does sound like an excellent, cost effective upgrade. We have awesome roads around here as it's coastal terrain. Lots of winding roads combined with hills and valleys should make for a very enjoyable driving experience. It's going to be a blast. Thank you all!

[DarkShadowFox]

All this positive feedback about the TRD bar is really building my anticipation. It does sound like an excellent, cost effective upgrade. We have awesome roads around here as it's coastal terrain. Lots of winding roads combined with hills and valleys should make for a very enjoyable driving experience. It's going to be a blast. Thank you all!

it works on my '15.

WHEEEEE.

[06YarisRS]

it works on my '15.

WHEEEEE.

Good to know.

Received a notification 2 days ago that my bar was on back order. Called the dealer in Pennsylvania yesterday and they said it was just coming from a different warehouse, in California. Got my tracking number today. Yay!

[DarkShadowFox]

Good to know.

Received a notification 2 days ago that my bar was on back order. Called the dealer in Pennsylvania yesterday and they said it was just coming from a different warehouse, in California. Got my tracking number today. Yay!

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[atomic_hoji]

:thumbsup: Keep us posted how she handles with the racing parts.. lol :biggrin:
-- Adam

[06YarisRS]

:thumbsup: Keep us posted how she handles with the racing parts.. lol :biggrin:
-- Adam

Sure will, man!

[DarkShadowFox]

TRD Racing mannnn

[Type-Y]

You are definitely going to like the bar.

[06YarisRS]

You are definitely going to like the bar.

I'm sure of it. Last night I found myself browsing wheel and tire websites. As mush as I love my stock RS wheels, as Stidnam said, I'll probably be wanting something a little more aggressive in the wheel/tire department. If those dang 15" wheels weren't so narrow, I'd just put a better 195 on them. This could get expensive fast!

[stidnam]

Factory wheels have weak offsets anyway ;). Konig Dial Ins, Enkei RPF01s, Enkei Compes, Work CR Kais.....so many good wheels. I want them all :)

[06YarisRS]

Even the dog loves it...

https://i.imgur.com/2q9IH4O.jpg

[WeeYari]

I fondly remember when mine looked like that. Now there's barely any red on it.

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[06YarisRS]

I fondly remember when mine looked like that. Now there's barely any red on it.

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Funny you mention that. I was thinking about painting mine black. Although it's likely not very visible when installed, I like things understated. Not sure how well paint would adhere to powdercoat though.

[WeeYari]

It's visually barely there. Don't bother painting it.

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[06YarisRS]

It's visually barely there. Don't bother painting it.

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Yeah, I likely won't bother. Maybe when it looks like yours :laugh:, I'll sand it and spray it black.

[WeeYari]

Maybe when it looks like yours [emoji23],
Since your princess will never see winter again, it'll never look like mine.



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[06YarisRS]

Since your princess will never see winter again, it'll never look like mine.



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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: True. "Garage Princess", not "Queen" as it's neither a classic nor particularly rare. LOL.

[Fluxtasy]

I fondly remember when mine looked like that. Now there's barely any red on it.

I hope mine stays red & dandy till I sell the car since the weather here is either hot or rainy :biggrin:

[06YarisRS]

...since the weather here is either hot or rainy :biggrin:

Total jealousy here.

[myfirstyota]

Why isn't it installed yet? Lol. 10 min job.
I got a used one off kijiji along with tein stechs for $160 couple years back. Best suspension mod you can do IMO. The instability I used to get on the hiway around big rigs is almost completely gone.

You will love it.

[DarkShadowFox]

Even the dog loves it...

https://i.imgur.com/2q9IH4O.jpg

looks like mine now its all pitted and rusted.

[DarkShadowFox]

Even the dog loves it...

https://i.imgur.com/2q9IH4O.jpg

also giant allergy floof dog

[DarkShadowFox]

Why isn't it installed yet? Lol. 10 min job.
I got a used one off kijiji along with tein stechs for $160 couple years back. Best suspension mod you can do IMO. The instability I used to get on the hiway around big rigs is almost completely gone.

You will love it.

kijiii what.

[WeeYari]

kijiii what.kijiji - what we all use instead of craigslist.

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[DarkShadowFox]

kijiji - what we all use instead of craigslist.

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oh cause its canada. oops

[06YarisRS]

Why isn't it installed yet? Lol. 10 min job.
I got a used one off kijiji along with tein stechs for $160 couple years back. Best suspension mod you can do IMO. The instability I used to get on the hiway around big rigs is almost completely gone.

You will love it.

Might install it this weekend, but not in a huge hurry as the car is off the road for winter.

I use Kijiji, except lately it has become so badly clogged with ads from dealers and parts suppliers that it's a hassle to find anything used. IMO, kijiji has deteriorated significantly. Aside from this, a large urban center like the GTA would have much more availability of used parts. I live in a much more rural area, so selection is relatively limited.

[DarkShadowFox]

Might install it this weekend, but not in a huge hurry as the car is off the road for winter.

I use Kijiji, except lately it has become so badly clogged with ads from dealers and parts suppliers that it's a hassle to find anything used. IMO, kijiji has deteriorated significantly. Aside from this, a large urban center like the GTA would have much more availability of used parts. I live in a much more rural area, so selection is relatively limited.

you do know you back two bolts out and install it right?

[tmontague]

Might install it this weekend, but not in a huge hurry as the car is off the road for winter.

I use Kijiji, except lately it has become so badly clogged with ads from dealers and parts suppliers that it's a hassle to find anything used. IMO, kijiji has deteriorated significantly. Aside from this, a large urban center like the GTA would have much more availability of used parts. I live in a much more rural area, so selection is relatively limited.

I've noticed this too when searching for our future family awd Sienna. The whole front page is all ads and dealers, not too happy about that. I guess it pays. It's worth it to take the time and search deep into the pages. I've found people that still haven't sold stiff on page 10 that was posted within the month.

you do know you back two bolts out and install it right?

*4 bolts, and depending on how flexible Adam's muscles are he may want to jack the rear end up. Realistically it's an hour from complete start to finish with cleanup, especially if you haven't installed it before

[DarkShadowFox]

I've noticed this too when searching for our future family awd Sienna. The whole front page is all ads and dealers, not too happy about that. I guess it pays. It's worth it to take the time and search deep into the pages. I've found people that still haven't sold stiff on page 10 that was posted within the month.



*4 bolts, and depending on how flexible Adam's muscles are he may want to jack the rear end up. Realistically it's an hour from complete start to finish with cleanup, especially if you haven't installed it before

i forget but i think i only had to backout two but ill check again. i think it was 4 because its non adustable.

[WeeYari]

2 need to be backed out and 2 are net new.

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[06YarisRS]

Thanks for the feedback gentlemen. I've put sway bar on the back burner until I can straighten out my A/C issues. That said, if the A/C becomes a long process, I may console myself with the installation of the sway bar. Since I'm not sure how flexible my muscles are :laugh: I will probably jack the car up and remove the wheels. God knows, I've got lots of time and a few good jacks.

[DarkShadowFox]

Thanks for the feedback gentlemen. I've put sway bar on the back burner until I can straighten out my A/C issues. That said, if the A/C becomes a long process, I may console myself with the installation of the sway bar. Since I'm not sure how flexible my muscles are :laugh: I will probably jack the car up and remove the wheels. God knows, I've got lots of time and a few good jacks.

just put the bar on already :confused:

[WeeYari]

just put the bar on already :confused:Cause it is cold in New Brunswick and the car is in winter storage anyway.

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[06YarisRS]

Cause it is cold in New Brunswick and the car is in winter storage anyway.

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You got that right, WeeYari! Quite nippy out there. Even with my 240V heater and plastic covered paint booth, I'm lucky to reach 15C.