Yaris hatch discontinued for 2019 in the US?

[Type-Y]

Looks like the Yaris hatch is done in the US for 2019. Noticed that there were only links to a 2018 model on Toyota's site while all the other models had a 2019 equivalent and then found this:

https://www.carsdirect.com/automotive-news/toyota-yaris-liftback-discontinued-for-2019

The iA (Mazda) sedan made the cut though. :confused:

Though they said "After confirming Toyota's plan for the Yaris, Ms. Hubbell noted "Additionally, we’re working on something new for MY2020".... We'll probably end up with an uglier version of a re-badged Mazda 2 in the US.

[suprf1y]

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61349

[zoidberg444]

They'll probably bring it back if petrol prices spike but at the moment who in the US needs a small economical hatchback when petrol is cheaper than water.

[Leegamer]

Maybe they're hoping that the corolla hatch will sell better if there is no yaris hatch.

Who here was actually planning to buy a 2019 or newer yaris? I wasn't.

[ern-diz]

Maybe they're hoping that the corolla hatch will sell better if there is no yaris hatch.

Who here was actually planning to buy a 2019 or newer yaris? I wasn't.

In the GRMM trim, I would have considered it.

[Type-Y]

In the GRMM trim, I would have considered it.

Honestly, as cool as the GRMN is at 200hp, if they just made a scaled down model that squeezed out 150hp and keep the weight at 2300lbs, it would be a fun little car. Keep the price at the 2018 level - I'd be interested.

[Leegamer]

In the GRMM trim, I would have considered it.

It is awesome, but not worth the price that they sold the original batch in.

If they mass-produced I suppose it could be quite a bit cheaper.

[ern-diz]

Honestly, as cool as the GRMN is at 200hp, if they just made a scaled down model that squeezed out 150hp and keep the weight at 2300lbs, it would be a fun little car. Keep the price at the 2018 level - I'd be interested.

It is awesome, but not worth the price that they sold the original batch in.

If they mass-produced I suppose it could be quite a bit cheaper.

Agree with both of you, and wasn't saying I would have definitely bought one but depending on the numbers, would have considered it.

[Hamster]

Even if I was in the market for a new car, I don't think I would consider the liftback anyway. I watched a couple of reviews on YouTube of the 2018. Seems like the quality dropped. Like the center console can be wiggled. The problem is, you can no longer get a Yaris made in Japan. I wouldn't trust any car made by the French. I'd question the quality control. I've read in the YouTube comments of Europeans complaining about the quality of even the French-made 2nd gen Yaris. The Corolla hatch looks pretty cool. Bummer it has a CVT, though.

[matti]

Even if I was in the market for a new car, I don't think I would consider the liftback anyway. I watched a couple of reviews on YouTube of the 2018. Seems like the quality dropped. Like the center console can be wiggled. The problem is, you can no longer get a Yaris made in Japan. I wouldn't trust any car made by the French. I'd question the quality control. I've read in the YouTube comments of Europeans complaining about the quality of even the French-made 2nd gen Yaris. The Corolla hatch looks pretty cool. Bummer it has a CVT, though.

FWIW, the console on my 2012 Yaris (Japanese-built, I believe) wiggled quite a bit. That car also had a lot more squeaks and creaks than my 2017 French-built Yaris. I understand that my n=1 experience doesn't prove anything, but I wanted to throw this out there.

[Hamster]

FWIW, the console on my 2012 Yaris (Japanese-built, I believe) wiggled quite a bit. That car also had a lot more squeaks and creaks than my 2017 French-built Yaris. I understand that my n=1 experience doesn't prove anything, but I wanted to throw this out there.

Did not know that, thanks for the info. My car is 2nd gen just like your 2012, and has absolutely zero squeaks and creaks. If it did, I would have sold it long ago, because that would drive me crazy! And no wiggly console. Wonder if the interior fit-and-finish depends on who was in charge of quality control on the day the car was manufactured. Sounds like I got lucky with mine.

[2008RedHatch]

Per Autoblog and other sites, there's no 2019 hatchback. As others stated, it's strange Edmunds hasn't posted this info.

Here is url from Automobile magazine site:

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/toyota-yaris-hatchback-officially-dead/



My new used 2016 is tight like a vault, built in France.

EDIT: There may be a 2020 Yaris hatchback, based on the Mazda 2/Yaris sedan platform.

[Hamster]

2008RedHatch Sounds like you got a good French-made car, too. Maybe the people in all those YouTube videos I watched were unjustifiably negative.

I checked the website of the Toyota dealership where I bought my car, and there are no 2019 hatches listed for sale. Only the sedan is available for the 2019 model year.

[2008RedHatch]

There's still a few 2018 hatches available, but dealers are only asking $1000 off MSRP. But, used 16's and 17's are quite less $.

[bentjazz]

I would have considered buying a new Yaris, if need be. I love its subcompactness and its bulletproof reliability. Only thing I'd change is I would get a 5 door hatch instead of a 3 door hatch and would get any color except black. Other than that, I really do love the Yaris in just about every way. Came across this site the other day, and it ranked the Yaris hatch (not the Mazda Yaris iA) #1 in terms of subcompact reliability. My Yaris has easily been the most reliable car I've ever owned. Zero problems in over 8 years....

https://repairpal.com/reliability/subcompact-car

[2008RedHatch]

Car & Driver posted a scoop that there will be a 2020 Yaris hatchback. But, it will be a Mazda 2 hatch, aka a version of the Yaris sedan, nee Scion iA.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a26062013/toyota-yaris-hatchback-mazda-2-confirmed-2020/

But, not going to be official until the NYC Auto Show in April.

Also posted by Automobile Mag:

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2020-toyota-yaris-hatchback-mazda-2/

EDIT: I see posted in 3rd Gen forum, too,

[WeeYari]

We still have them in Canada. Toyota built Yaris tenure here 2006-2019, 2 model years more than the US.

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[2008RedHatch]

FWIW, Toyota has a "long term partnership" with Mazda, since 2015.

[ern-diz]

FWIW, Toyota has a "long term partnership" with Mazda, since 2015.

Most of us are aware...and not fans of it lol.

[Leegamer]

Most of us are aware...and not fans of it lol.

Still not as bad as the toyota cavalier

https://s3-prod.autonews.com/GLOBAL02_302069935_AR_-1_BKTEYXJLRSGS.jpg


The toyota - GM partnership was responsible for the Pontiac Vibe (Matrix), though...one of my favorite cars.

[suprf1y]

As well as the 80's Chevy Nova.

https://autopolis.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/chevrolet-nova-38.jpg?w=300&h=137

Say what you want about the Toyota Cavalier but they were very reliable and fairly quick for their time

[Leegamer]

As well as the 80's Chevy Nova.

https://autopolis.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/chevrolet-nova-38.jpg?w=300&h=137

Say what you want about the Toyota Cavalier but they were very reliable and fairly quick for their time

I have heard that they have a lot of potential, especially with the 2.4

[thebarber]

2020 mazda2 based yaris hatch would be nice.

i still prefer the 12-14 yaris

[ern-diz]

Yeah, and let us not forget the mighty Geo Prizm!

Amirite, guys?

Guys?

Kidding aside, I just don't like the partnerships. They feel like a bait and switch to me. With more exclusive models, like the Supra, it feels to me like the car is soulless because of the partnership. I don't care that it might be more reliable, or whatever other rational I hear about it. If I wanted a Chevy, I'd go to a Chevy lot. If I want a Mazda, I'll go to a Mazda lot. Don't sell me a Mazda with a Toyota sticker on it. Seems like common sense and not something consumers should have to ask for.

[myfirstyota]

Still not as bad as the toyota cavalier

https://s3-prod.autonews.com/GLOBAL02_302069935_AR_-1_BKTEYXJLRSGS.jpg


The toyota - GM partnership was responsible for the Pontiac Vibe (Matrix), though...one of my favorite cars.


Wtf!!!!! Mind blown

[thebarber]

Yeah, and let us not forget the mighty Geo Prizm!

Amirite, guys?

Guys?

Kidding aside, I just don't like the partnerships. They feel like a bait and switch to me. With more exclusive models, like the Supra, it feels to me like the car is soulless because of the partnership. I don't care that it might be more reliable, or whatever other rational I hear about it. If I wanted a Chevy, I'd go to a Chevy lot. If I want a Mazda, I'll go to a Mazda lot. Don't sell me a Mazda with a Toyota sticker on it. Seems like common sense and not something consumers should have to ask for.

i loved the crap out of my vibe GT's...toyota engineering + GM badge depreciation

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/dabarber/vibe/IMG_20160709_085023295_zpssvew6ud5.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/dabarber/vibe/2013042795141931_zps7c83485f.jpg

[Leegamer]

My wife bought a vibe base model brand new in 05. She still DDs it with 250k miles on it.

We're probably getting her a new car later this year and I plan to find a rough matrix XR-S or Vibe GT and swap the 2zz into her car.

What suspension setup were you running on your vibes?

[toad]

I don't know... That green Cavalier looks nice with those mesh wheels(never thought I'd say that!).

[suprf1y]

Kidding aside, I just don't like the partnerships. They feel like a bait and switch to me. I don't care that it might be more reliable, or whatever other rational I hear about it. If I wanted a Chevy, I'd go to a Chevy lot. If I want a Mazda, I'll go to a Mazda lot. Don't sell me a Mazda with a Toyota sticker on it. Seems like common sense and not something consumers should have to ask for.

Once you start looking into platforms, their development, and the platform sharing going on between manufacturers it's amazing who's using what to build what appears to be completely different cars. It's rampant in the industry now. Even GM and Ford are co-developing transmissions. I never thought I would see those two work together.

[2008RedHatch]

I've seen a few posts in other forums complaining about Toyota-Mazda based Yaris, and I say 'get over it'. So what? Making it sound like they are like Chevy Chevettes.

Someone pointed out GM collaboration and turned out to be OK. GM's bankruptcy killed NUMMI, which had a good rep.

[toad]

I've seen a few posts in other forums complaining about Toyota-Mazda based Yaris, and I say 'get over it'. So what? Making it sound like they are like Chevy Chevettes.

Someone pointed out GM collaboration and turned out to be OK. GM's bankruptcy killed NUMMI, which had a good rep.

agreed! i've got no issues with mazda whatsoever. my only thought is would a mazda dealership be better equiped to handle diagnostics since it's 99.9% mazda?:confused:

[ern-diz]

Once you start looking into platforms, their development, and the platform sharing going on between manufacturers it's amazing who's using what to build what appears to be completely different cars. It's rampant in the industry now. Even GM and Ford are co-developing transmissions. I never thought I would see those two work together.

I know, it's terrible lol.

[Leegamer]

I'm not really brand loyal so I don't care that much. As long as they're producing a quality product why do I care who makes it? It's not like Toyota was building every single part on every car in the 90s.

[ern-diz]

Has nothing to do with brand loyalty. I'm not a die hard Toyota fan. I've owned other brands and probably wouldn't buy a Toyota if I had to replace my Yaris today. As I said before, it feels like a bait and switch to me. If I ask for chocolate, don't give me vanilla with a 'chocolate' label on it.

[Leegamer]

Has nothing to do with brand loyalty. I'm not a die hard Toyota fan. I've owned other brands and probably wouldn't buy a Toyota if I had to replace my Yaris today. As I said before, it feels like a bait and switch to me. If I ask for chocolate, don't give me vanilla with a 'chocolate' label on it.

That's a valid point. Maybe if they advertised it a little more we'd be more comfortable with it. At the end of the day I don't think most consumers care who makes it, though.

[kimona]

My 2017 Buick Encore has an Opel platform (Opel, Rüsselsheim, Germany) and the car is assembled in Korea... where it gets an Opel, Vauxhall, or Buick badge. My 2018 GMC Terrain also has an Opel platform and the car is assembled in Mexico. In both cases, most consumers believe they are buying truly "American" cars. Many would be very disappointed to discover they aren't. I'm not; in fact, it's the very reason the cars are actually reliable. I'm extremely happy with both.

However, when I buy a Toyota, I want to be confident I'm getting genuine Toyota quality and Toyota's legendary long term reliability. If I wanted a Subaru, Mazda, or BMW... I'd go to the respective dealers.

[Hershey]

We had this NOVA . It was an '86 lift back. Best car we owned in 40+ years . Picked it up for $1,000 with nearly 100,000 miles . It was the 1.6 ltr. with a 3 speed auto . It passed on :frown: close to 270,000 miles . Very hard driving . Lots of stop and go . It had the ECO button for A/C . Was told by transmission specialist it had a MAZDA transmission :iono: . Changed oil every 3>4,000 miles and tranny fluid 25>30,000 miles .

[kimona]

^^^ The 1985-88 Chevy Nova was a rebadged Toyota Sprinter that shared Corolla's AE82 platform, 1.6L engine, and 5-speed manual or 3-speed or 4-speed automatic transmission.

[bentjazz]

How many cars do you own, kimona? Which is your favorite vehicle?

[Leegamer]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/369f585d5f8e1be66a9e80c4e7126dd2/tumblr_p7h0rwO9z41u8imavo1_400.png

[kimona]

How many cars do you own, kimona? Which is your favorite vehicle?

I've owned a lot of cars over the years. My 2007 Yaris and 2014 Yaris are among my favourites, but I think the 2007 is a better car.

My 2017 Buick Encore (Opel/Vauxhall Mokka) is probably my favourite car so far. Build quality, materials, fit, finish, and paint are outstanding. It performs extremely well, is tomb quiet, and is by far the most comfortable car I've ever driven. It's a small hatchback, so is every bit as practical as the Yaris. I have a 2-year lease, so I'm not concerned about long term reliability, although it has excellent reliability ratings since it's introduction in 2013 and the Opel/Vauxhall Mokka gets great long-term reliability reviews in Europe. My lease is up in about 5 months, and I plan to get another Encore.

[suprf1y]

My 2017 Buick Encore has an Opel platform (Opel, Rüsselsheim, Germany) and the car is assembled in Korea... where it gets an Opel, Vauxhall, or Buick badge.



Great example.

I bought a Chevy Sonic for my Wife a few years ago. Same platform as your Encore, and Chevy Trax.
In fact, that platform was developed with Fiat and is also the basis of a number of Fiat models as well, including some N. American Chrysler/Jeep vehicles.

It is a very capable platform

[bradbowl]

I've owned a lot of cars over the years. My 2007
My 2017 Buick Encore (Opel/Vauxhall Mokka) is probably my favourite car so far. Build quality, materials, fit, finish, and paint are outstanding. It performs extremely well, is tomb quiet, and is by far the most comfortable car I've ever driven. It's a small hatchback, so is every bit as practical as the Yaris. I have a 2-year lease, so I'm not concerned about long term reliability, although it has excellent reliability ratings since it's introduction in 2013 and the Opel/Vauxhall Mokka gets great long-term reliability reviews in Europe. My lease is up in about 5 months, and I plan to get another Encore.

I am considering an Encore as well. I like the recent facelift and the higher ride height would be nice. I'm glad to hear you think it is a quality vehicle.

[kimona]

I am considering an Encore as well. I like the recent facelift and the higher ride height would be nice. I'm glad to hear you think it is a quality vehicle.

Here's a thread about my Encore:

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59591&highlight=buick+encore

[KALISPEL II]

Yes, sadly the trusty 1NZ-FE Yaris, or a Toyota-built Yaris next-gen TNGA successor, has been axed in the U.S. market. Toyota did recently announce, however, that they are reintroducing the Yaris hatchback to the U.S. in 2020 - but it will be a rebadged Mazda2 hatchback made in Mexico. Surprise, surprise, eh? :wink: I think it is scheduled to debut at the 2019 New York Auto Show in April - with same homely iA fishface no doubt. :cry:

[2008RedHatch]

Is there really a new TGNA version coming for overseas?