Ever been frustrated by stupid replies to your ads?

[suprf1y]

I was today.

I posted a bike for sale and the first 3 responses were either stupid questions that were already in the ad or trade offers for things that nobody wants.

So I posted a spoof ad and have actually been offered an xbox, a compressor, pellet guns, and a boa constrictor.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1416265132

I think I committed every wrong in posting an ad. If I missed anything please let me know, I'll edit it in :thumbup:

[NYC-SE]

Still available?

(No. I like to advertise things I already sold.)

[NYC-SE]

I know you said no trades but how about --insert whatever nonsensical item you can imagine here--

[NYC-SE]

I'll give you $100 cash (on a $1000 item)

[NYC-SE]

I can get it for half your price.

(Really? Then why are you responding to my ad? Go get it!)

[NYC-SE]

I sell on craigslist, or at least try to. So yes I get plenty of stupid responses.

[IllusionX]

I was today.



I posted a bike for sale and the first 3 responses were either stupid questions that were already in the ad or trade offers for things that nobody wants.



So I posted a spoof ad and have actually been offered an xbox, a compressor, pellet guns, and a boa constrictor.



https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1416265132



I think I committed every wrong in posting an ad. If I missed anything please let me know, I'll edit it in [emoji106]How about you post it properly? Why you make a "wanted" ad for something you are selling?

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[dogsridewith]

I was today.

I posted a bike for sale and the first 3 responses were either stupid questions that were already in the ad or trade offers for things that nobody wants.

So I posted a spoof ad and have actually been offered an xbox, a compressor, pellet guns, and a boa constrictor.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1416265132

I think I committed every wrong in posting an ad. If I missed anything please let me know, I'll edit it in :thumbup:So why frustrate others with your spoof ad?

[kimona]

I sell on e-bay and craigslist. I often get morons responding to my craigslist ads, and more than 50% of those who schedule to meet, never show up, never cancel... and then dodge all attempts to be contacted. I've never experienced a culture so intent on wasting their time and mine. Nevertheless, I just keep posting well written accurate ads with good photos. In the end, I sell everything I post for a fair price. Don't be a jerk. Be polite, persistent, and take care.

[NYC-SE]

I sell on e-bay and craigslist. I often get morons responding to my craigslist ads, and more than 50% of those who schedule to meet, never show up, never cancel... and then dodge all attempts to be contacted. I've never experienced a culture so intent on wasting their time and mine. Nevertheless, I just keep posting well written accurate ads with good photos. In the end, I sell everything I post for a fair price. Don't be a jerk. Be polite, persistent, and take care.

Yes! Exactly! Amazingly I just (like an hour ago) sold a pair of speakers on craigslist. I had had them listed for about 6 months. Dozens of idiotic responses, some of which I even responded to because there were questions attached. Some multi day back and forth correspondence, etc. I actually set up meetings with 3 guys who claimed they wanted them and then ... no show, no call, no email. Ghosted. (I understand this is how the younger generations date now too so I guess this is "normal" behavior for them.) Forgetting about myself but why waste your own time like that?

Today guy #4 actually showed up after only 2 emails back and forth. It seems there are still a few sane people out there.

[IllusionX]

Ah. I actually don't meet people outside anymore. Unless it's very serious. I mostly do it only for buying stuffs.

When I'm selling, I get them to come to my work place during day time or at home after hours. It's part of the deal, I'm selling to the next person if you like it. That's it.

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[Hamster]

I own a duplex, where I live in one side and rent out the other. I had to deal with an amazing number of stupid replies to my three bedroom/1 bath ad last year.

Such as:

-I do not allow pets and I say so in the ad. I go to the potential applicants' Facebook pages, and they clearly have pets.
-There was a single mom on welfare with six kids from six different fathers. No way she could afford the rent.
-People who want to move in with the promise of paying a security deposit later. What this means is that they have no intention of paying a security deposit.
-One guy didn't want me to run a credit check, and wanted me to hand him the keys so he could move in two days later.
-One person wanted to fill the apartment with five adults who spoke only Spanish and little English. I presume these would be illegal immigrants or possibly drug smugglers. No thanks. I don't need Homeland Security kicking down my doors.
-Another person wanted to move in right away and pay the first month's rent at some undefined time in the future.
-Many, many people who had evictions or were in the process of getting evicted.
-A ton of lookie-loos. Seriously, those were the worst, because they wasted my time for the purpose of their own personal entertainment.

And, of course, all these people knew they would be living next to me (well, apart from the lookie-loos). Seriously, some people have no shame.

[NYC-SE]

Just had an 8 email back and forth for a $20 item I am selling on Craigslist. First email asked if I would accept PayPal and mail the item to him, even though ad clearly states "cash" and "pickup". I of course told him no, so he comes back and says ok he'll pay cash and could we meet in Long Island. Ad clearly states 3 locations where pickup would be possible and Long Island is nowhere on that list. OK he says we'll meet in NYC. Then several more back and forth to work out a time. Great everything set...oh one more thing..."Could you set up a PayPal account I don't like using cash." Then sends belligerent emails when I stopped responding.

Typical Craigslist time waster.

[myfirstyota]

Just had an 8 email back and forth for a $20 item I am selling on Craigslist. First email asked if I would accept PayPal and mail the item to him, even though ad clearly states "cash" and "pickup". I of course told him no, so he comes back and says ok he'll pay cash and could we meet in Long Island. Ad clearly states 3 locations where pickup would be possible and Long Island is nowhere on that list. OK he says we'll meet in NYC. Then several more back and forth to work out a time. Great everything set...oh one more thing..."Could you set up a PayPal account I don't like using cash." Then sends belligerent emails when I stopped responding.

Typical Craigslist time waster.

Scammer. Don't waste your time. Pay-delete-what?

[suprf1y]

I own a duplex, where I live in one side and rent out the other. I had to deal with an amazing number of stupid replies to my three bedroom/1 bath ad last year.



I had rental properties for 10 years. I'll never do that again.

Fortunately the bike sold in 4 days

[Hamster]

suprf1y - I bought this property in 2014, thinking it would be the first of many rental properties I would eventually own. I will never, ever again buy another rental property. It's not profitable, and it's not worth the hassle for the little itty bitty profit that I'm able to eek out sometimes. As an owner-occupant, the tax deductions are nice, though, like depreciation and being able to deduct half of my home insurance. But even when you live on the property, tenants do stuff that will drive you nuts. Like, my current tenant was leaving the garage open when she left for work, leaving my expensive EGO electric lawn mower fully exposed all day for anyone to steal (I got lucky and nobody stole it). She told me that "she forgot," and said that I shouldn't be mad because she has a "chill personality." Huh? Somehow her memory improved when I said I would ban her from parking in the garage if she ever left the door open again. And the most recent thing is that she had been going over the side of the driveway, tearing up the grass with her Ford Edge. She clearly can't handle a large vehicle. I told her to stop it, and she said that she doesn't want to drive a small car like me, and that she has a chill personality. Again, huh? Yep, no more rental property for me!

[suprf1y]

I made really good money doing it but it was a constant battle.

[myfirstyota]

I rent and I can't handle the other tenants. The garbage everywhere, the noise, laundry in the machines, the general disregard for the fact other people live in the house. The vast majority of tennants (that ive seen) are just shitty people.

[Hamster]

I have trouble making money because property taxes in non-rural areas of Ohio are really, really high. Mine is close to $6,500. Through property taxes in Franklin County (the county where I live) I have to pay for BS stuff like the zoo (and no, we don't get free admission), alcohol and mental health services, a meals-on-wheels program for old people, children's services, and a bunch of other stupid stuff. And, of course, the schools, and I don't have kids. If not for the high property taxes where I live, it would be profitable. I wish I could live in a community outside of Franklin County, but then my commute would be really tough. Right now, I live only six miles from work. There's an opportunity cost, as they say in economics. Right now, the short commute wins out.

-myfirstyota If you're living in an apartment complex, then yeah, those suck. Ask me how I know. About one third of my car had to be repainted. Wanna know why two doors, a rear quarter panel, the fuel door, and the liftgate had to be repainted? No, it was never in an accident. It's because some idiot keyed my car in 2010 at the apartment complex where I was living. It had carports, not garages, so anyone could mess with your car. I had my suspicions of who did it, but I couldn't prove it because of no video cameras and no witnesses. Luckily, my insurance company covered it under comprehensive coverage. I was only out my $100 deductible. So, yeah, tenants suck.

[myfirstyota]

A bit more complicated on my end. I rent the basement unit of my parents rental property. Not something you really wanna walk away from. For whatever reason, 2 years ago they decided to rent to welfare crackheads and obviously don't get their rent. I've been telling them (parents) that their tenants are crackheads and they don't seem to care. Apparently cause they have 4 little crackheads in the making, they're entitled to my parents having to pay their way. I'm sorry, but after 2 years of constant Jerry Springer shows, cops at the door 2-5 times a week, and the crack deals going on in my parking spot, I couldn't give a fuck about the little cracklings. Call me an asshole... but I just don't care. Leave it to the western world to turn 2 crackheads living off the system into 12 crackheads living off the system inside of 25 years. Am I the only one who sees this revolving issue?

Make em piss for their money. You could probably lower taxes if you stopped giving hard earned tax money to drug addicts who contribute NOTHING to society.

[Hamster]

Dude, seriously, get a better paying job, save up your money, and get out of there!

My mind is blown that your parents will tolerate drug dealers living on the property. I just don't understand the mentality. And no, you're not an asshole. I'm also not the type of person who goes around feeling sorry for people. In my state, Ohio, we have a huge problem with opioid addicts. I really, really don't care if they they overdose and die. I wish these do-gooders would stop reviving them with Narcan. Narcan just keeps them alive long enough to steal another day. I live in an upper class suburb, and we have a huge problem with car, garage, and home break-ins from heroin addicts driving into here and stealing. It's a nice area, so they come here thinking there's lots of nice stuff to steal and pawn. I had a shed that was broken into, repeatedly. I eventually had to get it torn down, because it was a magnet for druggies looking for pawn-able property. So, yeah, I'm with you. I have an extreme dislike for drug addicts.

[tmontague]

A bit more complicated on my end. I rent the basement unit of my parents rental property. Not something you really wanna walk away from. For whatever reason, 2 years ago they decided to rent to welfare crackheads and obviously don't get their rent. I've been telling them (parents) that their tenants are crackheads and they don't seem to care. Apparently cause they have 4 little crackheads in the making, they're entitled to my parents having to pay their way. I'm sorry, but after 2 years of constant Jerry Springer shows, cops at the door 2-5 times a week, and the crack deals going on in my parking spot, I couldn't give a fuck about the little cracklings. Call me an asshole... but I just don't care. Leave it to the western world to turn 2 crackheads living off the system into 12 crackheads living off the system inside of 25 years. Am I the only one who sees this revolving issue?

Make em piss for their money. You could probably lower taxes if you stopped giving hard earned tax money to drug addicts who contribute NOTHING to society.

Come live in East Hamilton, I thought living in an area like this would give me more empathy - the exact opposite happened, the disregard for other people and the lack of personal pride is immense.

Fortunately my family's house is one of the nicer ones on the street (thanks to endless renovations I've done) and our neighbours are mostly all owners and are nice people. It is what is in our adjacent neighborhood that is a disaster. The area is slowly changing thanks to gentrification and younger families buying the houses as owners not rentals. It's turning around, it just takes time.

Neither my wife or I will live here once our oldest son starts school, I have a colleague who treats a lot of the teachers in the local schools and the stories are horrid.

Like you said, all it takes is two terrible individuals to realize that if you have enough kids the gov't gives you a lot of money. Next thing you know those two individuals just raised five kids that in a decade or two, will have the same negative impact to society and others that their parents had - exponential problem.

Sounds dark, but having seen the terrible conditions that kids are raised in around here plus how parents treat/talk to their kids, it's a reality. Money isn't the solution, adequate parents are.

I digress...

[myfirstyota]

You have a much nicer way with words than I do!

[myfirstyota]

Dude, seriously, get a better paying job, save up your money, and get out of there!

My mind is blown that your parents will tolerate drug dealers living on the property. I just don't understand the mentality. And no, you're not an asshole. I'm also not the type of person who goes around feeling sorry for people. In my state, Ohio, we have a huge problem with opioid addicts. I really, really don't care if they they overdose and die. I wish these do-gooders would stop reviving them with Narcan. Narcan just keeps them alive long enough to steal another day. I live in an upper class suburb, and we have a huge problem with car, garage, and home break-ins from heroin addicts driving into here and stealing. It's a nice area, so they come here thinking there's lots of nice stuff to steal and pawn. I had a shed that was broken into, repeatedly. I eventually had to get it torn down, because it was a magnet for druggies looking for pawn-able property. So, yeah, I'm with you. I have an extreme dislike for drug addicts.

In the process. I wasn't always good with my money. 3 years ago my financial life came crashing down and was forced to smarten up. 3 years later I'm debt free (the hard work way) and trying to build credit and save for a down payment.

And trust me, my mind is more blown than yours. I put up with this so they can not get their rent? I could see if they actually paid it... But they don't!

Unfortunately, buying a house in the Toronto area just isn't feasable to anyone making less than 150k/year. I have a good job here that I don't want to move far from because with a single income, I can't afford to, and own a home. I'm left saving until the market crashes or at least till the overpriced bubble bursts.

[Hamster]

I'm happy to hear you're out of debt! To quote the bible, the borrower is slave to the lender. Nothing more frustrating than working your tail off just to pay interest. My only debt is the duplex, and I'm getting that paid off as fast as possible. I'm in the US, but I've heard plenty of stories about the high cost of housing in and around Toronto. Rather than waiting for the bubble to burst, since it may never burst, maybe you can consider moving to a new apartment first.

Also, why don't your parents evict those tenants? I can't figure out why they would tolerate freeloaders.

[myfirstyota]

I'm happy to hear you're out of debt! To quote the bible, the borrower is slave to the lender. Nothing more frustrating than working your tail off just to pay interest. My only debt is the duplex, and I'm getting that paid off as fast as possible. I'm in the US, but I've heard plenty of stories about the high cost of housing in and around Toronto. Rather than waiting for the bubble to burst, since it may never burst, maybe you can consider moving to a new apartment first.

Also, why don't your parents evict those tenants? I can't figure out why they would tolerate freeloaders.

I've been asking that question for 2.5 years. Pitty? Idk.

The reason I won't move is because rent in this city is generally on par with a mortgage payment. We're talking $1000-1500/month for a shitty basement apartment in a horrible area and probably won't be any better than where I am now. My next door neighbors house is probably worth 2million. The area I live in is very nice and desired by many. I've lived in this area for over 30 years and have no intention of being pushed out by rifraff crackheads.

[NYC-SE]

I've been asking that question for 2.5 years. Pitty? Idk.

The reason I won't move is because rent in this city is generally on par with a mortgage payment. We're talking $1000-1500/month for a shitty basement apartment in a horrible area and probably won't be any better than where I am now. My next door neighbors house is probably worth 2million. The area I live in is very nice and desired by many. I've lived in this area for over 30 years and have no intention of being pushed out by rifraff crackheads.

Sorry but I just have to laugh when $1500 is considered a high rent. An apt. for $1500 in NYC would cause mass riots as people rushed to be the first to sign the lease.

[myfirstyota]

I'm in the burbs. Not really near the core at all. In the core the same appt would run 2k+

And you can't compare U.S. to Canada when it comes to money.

[Hamster]

Where I live, you can rent a whole small-ish house in a nice suburb for $1,500. I live in an upper middle class suburb of Columbus, and I rent out the other half of my duplex for $1,150. That's pretty much market rate here. It's a 1,140 sq ft ranch, and has a full basement with a rec room (sq footage does not include the basement), three bedrooms/one bath, and one parking space in the garage. When it comes to rent, it's location, location, location, just like with the cost of housing. Ohio is a boring fly-over state, so housing is pretty affordable compared to NYC or LA.

[NYC-SE]

Where I live, you can rent a whole small-ish house in a nice suburb for $1,500. I live in an upper middle class suburb of Columbus, and I rent out the other half of my duplex for $1,150. That's pretty much market rate here. It's a 1,140 sq ft ranch, and has a full basement with a rec room (sq footage does not include the basement), three bedrooms/one bath, and one parking space in the garage. When it comes to rent, it's location, location, location, just like with the cost of housing. Ohio is a boring fly-over state, so housing is pretty affordable compared to NYC or LA.

I'll take it! The commute is going to be a problem though. Looks like the Yaris will be racking up some miles. LOL

[myfirstyota]

$1150 + another 150-250 A month utilities/internet for a shitty bachelor in toronto, vs the same price for a whole house in Ohio. Wow. Lets not forget the average cellphone bill is $80-120/month here. I know our american friends dont pay anywhere near that for cell service.

[suprf1y]

Lets not forget the average cellphone bill is $80-120/month here. I know our american friends dont pay anywhere near that for cell service.

Let's not forget that a $80-$120 cell phone bill is a choice, a luxury not a necessity. I pay for my phone, my wife's phone, and a home phone, $14.50/mo

I live in SW Ontario now and you can rent a house for $1000/mo here. That's why I bought here and commuted into Burlington and Mississauga.

I am a major league cheapass :thumbup:

[myfirstyota]

I chose not to waste 4 hours+ a day sitting in my car commuting in the gta. That's time I spend at work making money, instead of burning it on fuel. Which is another ridicolous cost here. And I don't believe a cell phone is a luxury anymore. I don't have internet at home, nor a land line. My cell phone does both and for less than what a landline and internet would cost at home. Therefore, IMHO, the cellphone is not a luxury.

[suprf1y]

Those are the choices you've made. I made different ones and never looked back

[DarkShadowFox]

$1150 + another 150-250 A month utilities/internet for a shitty bachelor in toronto, vs the same price for a whole house in Ohio. Wow. Lets not forget the average cellphone bill is $80-120/month here. I know our american friends dont pay anywhere near that for cell service.

i pay 88 for my cellphone. and 1200 plus would be my average rent if i didnt live at home.

[myfirstyota]

Bottom line is it ain't easy in this world. And depending on you're age, the harder it is. I'm 36. My parents grew up in a time where an average house cost 3 years of an average income. That same house now costs 15 years of the average income. Seems everyrhing has doubled to quadroupled in price, but the wages havent even doubled. The world has changed...

[suprf1y]

The world has changed...

And stayed the same.

In the 80's we were living in Burlington, so not really a pricey area compared to a lot of the GTA, and went through exactly the same thing. It crashed, came down, then wages increased and it became affordable again.

Then the cycle started all over... just like it will again, and again

I don't regret moving out to the sticks - you may have figured that out :biggrin:
In fact, I would say it was one of the smartest moves we ever made.
My commute was either 40 or 60 minutes each way, which I never minded, and the move allowed me to do things for my family that I would have never been able to otherwise do.
Everything is cheaper up here. Homes, taxes, gas, even minor hockey was half the price of the GTA at the time, and the lower costs created opportunities that we would not have previously had. As a result, we have a large property with a big shop, and were mortgage free in our 40's.

I guess it all depends on what your priorities are, but you're not stuck in the GTA, living there is a choice.

[DarkShadowFox]

Bottom line is it ain't easy in this world. And depending on you're age, the harder it is. I'm 36. My parents grew up in a time where an average house cost 3 years of an average income. That same house now costs 15 years of the average income. Seems everyrhing has doubled to quadroupled in price, but the wages havent even doubled. The world has changed...

im 27 and im basically unemployable because im too expensive to hire.

[tmontague]

im 27 and im basically unemployable because im too expensive to hire.

Then your skills do not reflect your asking salary. People will pay what you are worth

[tmontague]

And stayed the same.

In the 80's we were living in Burlington, so not really a pricey area compared to a lot of the GTA, and went through exactly the same thing. It crashed, came down, then wages increased and it became affordable again.

Then the cycle started all over... just like it will again, and again

I don't regret moving out to the sticks - you may have figured that out :biggrin:
In fact, I would say it was one of the smartest moves we ever made.
My commute was either 40 or 60 minutes each way, which I never minded, and the move allowed me to do things for my family that I would have never been able to otherwise do.
Everything is cheaper up here. Homes, taxes, gas, even minor hockey was half the price of the GTA at the time, and the lower costs created opportunities that we would not have previously had. As a result, we have a large property with a big shop, and were mortgage free in our 40's.

I guess it all depends on what your priorities are, but you're not stuck in the GTA, living there is a choice.

Very much agree. Mortgages were much lower years ago but interest was much higher. If you run the numbers at the end of the day it ends up being virtually the same as today's low interest high house cost.

Sure some.things are different, no doubt about that, but it is not nearly as different as people tend think it is. What changed is student debt as well as how much tens and students spend on various things (as well as some other factors)

[myfirstyota]

I think my main issue with all this is I'm a single income. I don't know anyone my age who has bought a house on a single income. Yet in the late 80's my dad was able to buy a place on his own, had a new mustang, bought a $900 vcr, $2700 TV, etc. And he worked in a grocery store.... big money there.... Hell I only know a hand full of people my age that bought a house with a dual income. And most of them had help. A lot of help. Matter of fact, hundred of thousands of help in most all of those cases. I'm not saying I can't do it on my own. And have every intention of buying out of the city to keep er cheap. It's just getting to the point of having the down payment. It's tough to save 40 grand on your own. And lets be honest, entering that game with less is probably not the best idea.

[tmontague]

I think my main issue with all this is I'm a single income. I don't know anyone my age who has bought a house on a single income. Yet in the late 80's my dad was able to buy a place on his own, had a new mustang, bought a $900 vcr, $2700 TV, etc. And he worked in a grocery store.... big money there.... Hell I only know a hand full of people my age that bought a house with a dual income. And most of them had help. A lot of help. Matter of fact, hundred of thousands of help in most all of those cases. I'm not saying I can't do it on my own. And have every intention of buying out of the city to keep er cheap. It's just getting to the point of having the down payment. It's tough to save 40 grand on your own. And lets be honest, entering that game with less is probably not the best idea.

Absolutely, single income would have to be a high paying professional grad degree type gig to afford a house on your own in most cases in the GTA. I am fortunate I married my high school sweetheart who has been doing very well in her profession and found a job right our of Uni.

That said, we live in an area we do tight now because we did not want to live outside our means. Money is tight and i have way too much student debt, but that was always the plan. 10 years from now I will have a very good income and our kids will be heading into their teens and we will still be in our 30's.

Have goals, make a plan and follow it. Most people my age that I know who are lost spent most of their time in school spending cash on booze and not planning their future. To be employable you have to be better than everyone else and bring something to the table.

Like you said it would be very difficult on a single income, find a lady friend and get cozy !

[DarkShadowFox]

Then your skills do not reflect your asking salary. People will pay what you are worth

nah they will pay me what im worth, if you cant pay it then dont hire me, my skills reflect a modest salary of 30k or above, if you cant pay me a liveable wage your not deserving to employ me nobody can live on 20k and below, lmao.

[HannaMontana]

nah they will pay me what im worth, if you cant pay it then dont hire me, my skills reflect a modest salary of 30k or above, if you cant pay me a liveable wage your not deserving to employ me nobody can live on 20k and below, lmao.

The whole peculiarity is that not everyone understands how much real life skills cost. And not everyone is ready to pay for super-cool qualifications.