Seeking Advice - 17" Alloys

[06YarisRS]

I have a chance to pick these wheels up for a good price. I would install 205/45R17 tires.

I think that they are polished aluminum and I have requested higher res images from the seller. I could polish them. If not, I could repaint them in silver or just re-clear them.

I think they would look good, but I am concerned about how rough the ride would be. I've read the aftermarket wheels and tires thread but not much info on ride quality.

So, share your thought, please.

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[kappa_md]

I had 17s in my Yaris before. Ride quality is good, but it will probably also depend on your suspension setup. If you are on stiff coilovers, it will probably have a harsher ride. Try to get lightweight 17s. I’m in Eibach ProKit springs and KYB Lowfer Sports dampers. TRD recommends 205/45/17 tires. I wouldn’t suggest anything beyond 7 inch wheel width cuz of rubbing issues. HTH

[06YarisRS]

I had 17s in my Yaris before. Ride quality is good, but it will probably also depend on your suspension setup. If you are on stiff coilovers, it will probably have a harsher ride. Try to get lightweight 17s. I’m in Eibach ProKit springs and KYB Lowfer Sports dampers. TRD recommends 205/45/17 tires. I wouldn’t suggest anything beyond 7 inch wheel width cuz of rubbing issues. HTH

Thanks very much kappa_md! Excellent advice. Unfortunately, before the guy could send me pics, someone dropped in and bought them. Very disappointing. I am running on stock suspension. I also have 10mm Penguin Garage spacers on the back, but they could be removed if necessary.

I have played around with Gimp and come up with some possibilities. I'm pretty sure that both sets of Hyundai wheels in the pics below would work. The wheel offset for the Yaris and Hyundai is 46. I have to get specs on the Eagle 192. I am trying to keep a stock look, but would love to go to minimally a 16", preferably 17". Budget is a factor. I'd be willing to buy straight wheels that need refinishing as I have a paint booth and all the necessary equipment. Images are bordered for Instagram.

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[kimona]

On my '07, I ran 15's, 16's, and 17's on stock suspension. I liked the look and the ride comfort of the 16x7 (with 205/50/16) best of all. With my '14, I only ran this 16" combination.

[06YarisRS]

On my '07, I ran 15's, 16's, and 17's on stock suspension. I liked the look and the ride comfort of the 16x7 (with 205/50/16) best of all. With my '14, I only ran this 16" combination.

Yes, I think 16" seems like the ultimate size for the Yaris. 17" might be pushing it a bit, considering the condition of our roads. A 205/50/16 would work perfectly with my set up as, although it's slightly wider, it is very close in diameter. And, I'm almost positive that I could leave the PG spacers on if I used that size of tire.

What do you think of the 2008 Accent wheels? They are probably the closest I could find in design to the stock RS wheels. They have the same center cap diameter and depth etc. I think I could get set up reasonable affordably with a set of those wheels. It would be nice to have a couple sets of wheels to swap out when when I felt like it.

Here's a different pic of the Hyundai wheels. Obviously, disregard the read brake caliper. Haha.

https://i.imgur.com/05uSiHk.jpg

[kimona]

^^^ I like that 16" Hyundai wheel. At one time, I actually thought about putting those on my car!

Your 10mm spacers will be fine in the rear with those wheels.

[06YarisRS]

^^^ I like that 16" Hyundai wheel. At one time, I actually thought about putting those on my car!

Your 10mm spacers will be fine in the rear with those wheels.

Yeah, they are nice, and should be both available and relatively inexpensive. Good to know they would work with the spacers.

[NYC-SE]

+1 on the Hyundai 16s

[kimona]

Here's a photo of my 2007 with 16x7, ET42, 205/50/16 on stock suspension.

[06YarisRS]

+1 on the Hyundai 16s

For sure, eh. They are the closest I could find to the RS wheel. I had a chance to buy a set a while back and foolishly didn't pick them up. They were quite rough. I'm sure others will come up. There are several sets in excellent shape in Ontario, one set with relatively new tires. Alas, shipping would kill me. I'm keeping my eyes open and advertising in the virtual classifieds.

[06YarisRS]

Here's a photo of my 2007 with 16x7, ET42, 205/50/16 on stock suspension.

Absolutely stunning, Kimona!

[Neinris]

Here's a photo of my 2007 with 16x7, ET42, 205/50/16 on stock suspension.

Just wondering how much this affected your speedo? I'm on 185/60R15 and my speedo is indicating 2MPH slower than actual speed (for example speedo says 20MPH, but actual speed is 22MPH). Looks like my 2008 hatchback is dialed for the other stock wheel/tire setup of 175/65R14.

[kimona]

^^^ Surprise... After installing the 205/50/16's, my speedo was bang on!

[bentjazz]

I thought you sold your Yaris, 06YarisRS?

[06YarisRS]

I thought you sold your Yaris, 06YarisRS?

Haha, I could never sell my baby, lol. I sold my 2008 LE.

[06YarisRS]

+1 on the Hyundai 16s

I think that's what I'm going with. Have 3 sets to check out in the next few days. I posted a wanted ad and got 2 responses. Also a third set to look at at a wrecker yard.

[Neinris]

^^^ Surprise... After installing the 205/50/16's, my speedo was bang on!

Hmmm... what do I need to replace to get mine to dial in like yours? the ring that goes around the with the diff or the gear for the speed sensor? :confused:

Compare to my wheel/tire setup, you're going faster than me.

Or does yours pick speed signal from the abs?

[bentjazz]

Haha, I could never sell my baby, lol. I sold my 2008 LE.

:thumbsup:

[06YarisRS]

2007 Hyundai Accent Wheels Installed

I picked up a set of wheels today for $200.00 CAD. They will need to be refinished. They'll get the full treatment: sand, filler, primer, 2K base coat and 2K clearcoat. After comparing these to the stock wheels (which I do love), I ask myself why Toyota didn't go with a narrower spoked 16" wheel in the first place.

Major bonus: the tires are a medium quality tire (General Evertrek 205/50R16) and the have more than 80% tread remaining! This saves me about $600.00 - $700.00.

https://i.imgur.com/Nu8VWh5.jpg

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Toyota 15" vs Hyundai 16"

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Stock RS Wheels

https://i.imgur.com/RSGgb6P.jpg

Hyundai 16"

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Comparison

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[kimona]

That was fast. They look great! Plus, an outstanding deal. Score!

[06YarisRS]

That was fast. They look great! Plus, an outstanding deal. Score!

Crazy, eh? Thanks! I picked them up this afternoon, cleaned them up a bit and bolted 2 of them on. I may sneak out for a bit tomorrow and start sanding. I'm actually going to deflate the tires, pull them off the bead a bit and paint them with the tires on. Not ideal, but it'll save me having to get them remounted and balanced. If I can't get under the bead a bit with the paint, they'll get removed.

[bentjazz]

Such a nice looking Yaris.

[NYC-SE]

Great deal! Looks good too.

[WeeYari]

What a deal and look fantastic. For the most part, Hyundai has always had nice factory alloys.

[06YarisRS]

Thanks Gents! I'm having a blast working on the wheels. Here are a few pics. These wheels were badly scratched and gouged. However, Hyundai really laid the primer and clear coat on thick. As such, I managed to get rid of about 80 - 90% of the scratches and dings with just sanding. It had some curb rash, but also got that all sanded smooth. The wheel below will require two small dabs of body filler, shaping and sanding. I'm confident that these will look very close to factory in finish when I'm done. I haven't decided yet if I'll buy some 2K epoxy primer or use spray can lacquer and let it cure for a week or so before sanding and applying base coat and clearcoat (both will be 2K urethane).

I'll add more pic as I go...

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I just test fitted the Toyota cap. Perfect fit, snaps right in and is very secure. Both Toyota and Hyundai wheels have the exact same hub bore and internal machining.

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[06YarisRS]

Accent Wheel Primer

Applied 3 layers of high build primer. There is only one spot that needs a little filler, shaping and sanding. The way the wheels are designed, it's easy to get paint up under the lip. No need to remove tires! Yay!

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I brought them into our basement as it was getting cold out.

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[kappa_md]

I agree with 16x7 as mentioned by sir @kimona! I tried 2 sets of 17s. 17x7.5 wheels and another set of 17x7. Both are on 205/45/17 tires. The wheels are spot on and look great filling the wheel well of the yaris. My worry is 17s tend to be heavier for the power of the engine. My goal is to improve driving dynamics more than looks so I decided to decrease the size of the wheels but still maintaining 205 tires. Again same advice with sir @kimona! I went with 16x7 wheels with 205/50/16 tires. And i’m really glad with the setup and ride! I can push the yaris a little further for driving enjoyment!

Here is my Gen2 Yaris (2012) on RS2 bumpers. TRD T3 16x7 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 205/50/16 tires. I’m lowered on Eibach ProKits.

[kappa_md]

Your 16s wheels looks really great! It looks OEM and it’s like it came out stock from the factory! Enjoying to see your build! Keep it up bro!

[06YarisRS]

I agree with 16x7 as mentioned by sir @kimona! I tried 2 sets of 17s. 17x7.5 wheels and another set of 17x7. Both are on 205/45/17 tires. The wheels are spot on and look great filling the wheel well of the yaris. My worry is 17s tend to be heavier for the power of the engine. My goal is to improve driving dynamics more than looks so I decided to decrease the size of the wheels but still maintaining 205 tires. Again same advice with sir @kimona! I went with 16x7 wheels with 205/50/16 tires. And i’m really glad with the setup and ride! I can push the yaris a little further for driving enjoyment!

Here is my Gen2 Yaris (2012) on RS2 bumpers. TRD T3 16x7 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 205/50/16 tires. I’m lowered on Eibach ProKits.

Yes, I'm glad I took the advice too. I don't think I would have been happy with the 17s. They would probably look good, but I think the ride would be too rough around here. Your car looks amazing! I bet it really handles well. I've heard from numerous sources that the Pilot Sport tires are one of the best tires.

Can you tell me a little bit about your brakes? I see you have drilled and slotted rotors. What brand are they and what pads are you running?

Also, where can I find more pics of your car?

[kappa_md]

I upgraded my front rotors with a bit larger diameter but still using stock OEM calipers. They are drilled & slotted rotors and are called Runstop brakes from Thailand. I was told they also produce OEM stock rotors for Toyotas since our cars are manufacured there. I changed my brake pads to Brembo oem disc pads at front. Still on stock drum brakes at the rear. But i also replaced my brakelines front and rear to steel braided ones and used Brembo dot brake fluids.

Yup the PS4 tires are really good tires! I’ve been using them on my 2 other Toyotas and it’s a blast! I didn’t want the Yaris to be left behind and luckily they have PS4 specs i needed. They are suprisingly good when i tested these tires on track.

[06YarisRS]

Thanks for the info. That is one beautiful car you have there. I looked today at pads again and will probably go with the Hawks. Do you have a part number for those oversized rotors?

[kappa_md]

Thank you so much sir! Really appreciate it. I’m really thankfuk to YW for all the information and tips i get from alot of yaris/vitz enthusiasts. I’m really enjoying the Yaris. I can’t imagine letting it go. Such a fun little car. Toyotas are said to be boring but i really disagree. You just have to tinker in and out to make them fun yet still reliable! The website is down below. I also posted the part number of the front brake rotors. Cheers and stay safe!

http://runstop.co.th/product/expansion-kit-all/

[06YarisRS]

Thank you so much sir! Really appreciate it. I’m really thankfuk to YW for all the information and tips i get from alot of yaris/vitz enthusiasts. I’m really enjoying the Yaris. I can’t imagine letting it go. Such a fun little car. Toyotas are said to be boring but i really disagree. You just have to tinker in and out to make them fun yet still reliable! The website is down below. I also posted the part number of the front brake rotors. Cheers and stay safe.

Awesome. Thanks very much! So, it looks like the rotor is 30 mm greater in diameter. The stock appears to be 255 mm and these, 285 mm. I wouldn't have thought that a rotor that big would fit. I figured that it would contact the caliper. Do you have to buy matching pads, that are also wider? Otherwise, I assume there would be no benefit.

[kappa_md]

The rotor comes with a different bracket but the stock caliper is the same. Brake pads are also the same size, but probably it’s good to get better compound. It can handle size 15s wheels according to the website but i think it’s stretching it a bit. The 16s is better for clearances imho. All in all there’s marked improvement in brake feel since i’m driving the yaris into it’s limits. One thing i observed with slotted and/or drilled rotors is that, braking power remains the same with blanks, but brake fade is far less with those slotted and drilled. Probably you can notice it during track days but hardly as street use.

[06YarisRS]

The rotor comes with a different bracket but the stock caliper is the same. Brake pads are also the same size, but probably it’s good to get better compound. It can handle size 15s wheels according to the website but i think it’s stretching it a bit. The 16s is better for clearances imho. All in all there’s marked improvement in brake feel since i’m driving the yaris into it’s limits. One thing i observed with slotted and/or drilled rotors is that, braking power remains the same with blanks, but brake fade is far less with those slotted and drilled. Probably you can notice it during track days but hardly as street use.

Ah, the caliper bracket makes sense. Interesting observations about the drilled/drilled rotors. I think if I went forward, I would go with blank rotors. I don't find the stock brakes bad and they seem capable for how I drive. Maybe I will start with Hawk pads. I actually have a set of blank rotors on my shelf in the garage. They are cheap rotors, but I'll see how they work with the Hawk pads. Thanks for the great info!

[thebarber]

looks good, are you doing something more interesting than silver?

i've run most of the wheel/tire sizes. actually, we were in fredericton, nb when we bought our 2007 CE. came with factory 14's. "crandall" also lived in freddy beach and he ran 17's. HUGE difference in acceleration and braking between 14's and 17's (17's made the car accelerate slower and you had to press the brake pedal harder to stop (never did a true "versus" brake test, just me driving his car))

I eventually stayed with a 15x7 and a 205-50-15 on my yaris...comfort and handling.

205-50-16 are a bit tall vs your OEM tire, no?

[06YarisRS]

looks good, are you doing something more interesting than silver?

i've run most of the wheel/tire sizes. actually, we were in fredericton, nb when we bought our 2007 CE. came with factory 14's. "crandall" also lived in freddy beach and he ran 17's. HUGE difference in acceleration and braking between 14's and 17's (17's made the car accelerate slower and you had to press the brake pedal harder to stop (never did a true "versus" brake test, just me driving his car))

I eventually stayed with a 15x7 and a 205-50-15 on my yaris...comfort and handling.

205-50-16 are a bit tall vs your OEM tire, no?

Thanks. I'm going to stick with silver, not being very adventurous. I actually have a pint of Toyota silver wheel paint in my shop. What color would you paint them?

Initially, I upsized from 185/60R15 to a 195/60R15 on my stock wheels which are, I believe, 5.5" wide. Part of the reason for upsizing the wheels was to be able to use a slightly wider tire. I wanted a 16" wheel and one that resembled the stock rim as much as possible. Enter, the Accent wheels. Since I have lots of additional power and torque, upsizing isn't an issue, but yes, I noticed a big difference just between the 14" tiny winter rims and tires (175/65R14) vs the 185/60R15s on my stock 2008 LE.

Since I love visuals - and playing with the tire comparison tool - here are a couple pics to illustrate the discussed tire sizes.

Stock RS tire vs Current 205/50R16

https://i.imgur.com/i7QIjy1.png



My 195/60R15 vs 205/50R16

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[kimona]

I didn't notice any real difference in acceleration when I switched from 185/60/15's to 205/50/16's. But, I did notice a huge improvement in handling... and of course, the car looked so much better IMHO. Surprisingly, the speedo was bang on with the 205/50/16's.

However, I experienced a significant difference in acceleration and even better handling when I decided to put light weight 16's on the car; it was like night and day... like driving a completely different car!

[ern-diz]

I didn't notice any real difference in acceleration when I switched from 185/60/15's to 205/50/16's. But, I did notice a huge improvement in handling... and of course, the car looked so much better IMHO. Surprisingly, the speedo was bang on with the 205/50/16's.

However, I experienced a significant difference in acceleration and even better handling when I decided to put light weight 16's on the car; it was like night and day... like driving a completely different car!

Further to Kimona's point, I'd bet my bottom dollar that my 17x7 wheels weighing in at 14.6 lbs each outperform heavier 16" options in both acceleration and handling. Un-sprung corner weight is a mother.

06 knows I'm a super fan of both his Yaris and workmanship. Having said that, both the design and color of these Hyundai wheels strike me as too similar to the stocks you were running previously. Given that they're probably heavier, I might have held out for something else.

To barber's point, perhaps a diff color, at minimum. It's not as though it doesn't look fantastic but given all the work, I'd think you'd have wanted more change effect. All respect due, just my 2 cents.

[WeeYari]

IIRC, the OP is a big fan of the old RS wheels but desperately wanted bigger. In my thinking, that would be why he went with near identical look and still keeping OE silver. Also, with all his new found power, something that would easily negatively impact a factory 1NZ will probably be barely felt.

[06YarisRS]

Thanks for the input gents! Interesting points made here. My interest in the wheel change is, as WeeYari says, to upsize the capacity for a wider tire, plus have the look of a 16. I do love the stock RS wheel design, but the tire looks too big on the wheel, IMO. Kind of like a big donut. It is true that I have tried to maintain as stock a look as possible while pushing things ever so slightly (lip, rear spoiler, and now wheels). The Hyundai wheel met virtually all of my criteria, the obvious being the bolt pattern, but also the offset (ET47), as opposed to the Yaris (ET46). It also has 5 spokes, and looks, IMO, a little more elegant with the slimmer spokes. It truly was the closest I could find to the RS wheel at my budget. Did I mention that the Toyota center caps snap right in?

In some respects, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to the car's appearance. Generally, I find that the manufacturer does the best job of coordinating things for an overall look. However, part of me wants to make a more radical change as suggested by Barber and Ernie. I have been seriously considering picking up another set of these wheels. I can get a set for $125.00. I love restoring these and would welcome doing another set...in a satin or semigloss black. That, currently, would be the extent of my adventurousness, I'm afraid. Lol. I kind of like the idea of having a wardrobe (is that the correct term?) of wheel/tire combinations to swap out depending on my mood. LOL. I have two industrial floor jacks and an electric impact gun, so it might take 15 minutes to change out a set of wheels including torquing the lugnuts.

[kimona]

It is true that I have tried to maintain as stock a look as possible while pushing things ever so slightly...

In some respects, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to the car's appearance.

That's pretty much been my approach as well.

On my 2007, I thought I pushed the stock look a little by going with the 5-spokes (photo in post #9). Then, I found the ASA AR1 (pic below) which I immediately liked, and I thought they looked great on the car! I had them on my car for quite some time while storing the 5-spokes. Having two sets of wheels also allowed me to experiment with numerous tyre tread designs to eventually discover which worked best for overall performance and straight-line tracking at highway speeds.

I put the 5-spokes on my 2014, and I was quite satisfied. But, old school Japanese wheels caught my fancy one day, and I finally decided to really take a chance and break away from the stock look. The result was a new appearance that I fell in love with, and the surprise was the advantage of a light weight wheel.

[ern-diz]

IIRC, the OP is a big fan of the old RS wheels but desperately wanted bigger. In my thinking, that would be why he went with near identical look and still keeping OE silver. Also, with all his new found power, something that would easily negatively impact a factory 1NZ will probably be barely felt.

Makes sense.

I kind of like the idea of having a wardrobe (is that the correct term?) of wheel/tire combinations to swap out depending on my mood. LOL.

Having two sets of wheels also allowed me to experiment with numerous tyre tread designs to eventually discover which worked best for overall performance and straight-line tracking at highway speeds.

Love the wardrobe idea!

[WeeYari]

There are several sets in excellent shape in Ontario, one set with relatively new tires.
What platform are you searching to find these? I did a Canada search on Kijiji and found nothing!

[06YarisRS]

What platform are you searching to find these? I did a Canada search on Kijiji and found nothing!

Here's one from Ontario:

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1495173746&siteLocale=en_CA

I found literally 4 - 5 sets right here in NB. 2 sets were at wreckers. I was going to pick up a set at $40.00 a wheel from one of the wreckers, but then found another set with basically new tires.

I also use parts search engines. Here's an example:

https://oara.com/parts-locator/

Not Accent wheels, but I would have looked at these if I was closer. They are 17" wheels, though.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1482397667

[WeeYari]

I've done 17s before which are still taking up space in my garage. Never again that size on this car.

[06YarisRS]

I've done 17s before which are still taking up space in my garage. Never again that size on this car.

Too rough a ride? They do tend to look good in pics, but my suspicion is that they would be a little harsh. Even the 16" with the 50 aspect ratio on my car is firmer than the 195/60R15 on stock alloys. Not by much, but noticeable.

[WeeYari]

Me on the 17s. Can't believe this was way back in 2013. Wish the car looked as good today. :(

Generally the ride on 17s wasn't too bad. My biggest issue were the potholes that appear out of nowhere booting along at 120. Hitting those makes you feel sick and the first thing you do when you stop is inspect your wheels.

[ern-diz]

Don't be scared; life's short and it looks too good :tongue:

Consider that many people run 18's on their Yaris' :eek: That's even too much for me :biggrin: