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grampi
06-07-2007, 09:11 AM
????????

blacksan
06-07-2007, 09:13 AM
Marketing? On the other hand I think it is more descriptive as in plain English. Would you not agree that it is truly a lift-back.

eTiMaGo
06-07-2007, 09:19 AM
Good question... I thought it might be a recent marketing thing, but then I saw an old 70's corolla with a big "LIFTBACK" badge on the back...

blacksan
06-07-2007, 09:22 AM
Retro, that answers the question.

Doc Zaius
06-07-2007, 10:14 AM
I think it's b/c of the poor connotation that "hatchback" has in the States... its re-branding.

Its still called a hatchback up here in Canada! :thumbsup:

ChinoCharles
06-07-2007, 10:31 AM
I think it's b/c of the poor connotation that "hatchback" has in the States... its re-branding.

Its still called a hatchback up here in Canada! :thumbsup:

He is right.

Yaris Revenge
06-07-2007, 10:32 AM
Yeah, also: the previously most common "hatchback" design functioned much more like a standard trunk that simply hinged above the rear window instead of below it. Today's designs tend to incorporate the entire rear section of the vehicle, well past the tail lights, so I think liftback is a better term.

Standard hatchback designs:
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/05/porsche_cayman/image/cayman_s_rear_hatch_open.jpg
http://grohol.com/mazda/mazda6_hatchback4.jpg
http://www.divergentart.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/74hornet_hatchback.jpg

~YR

grampi
06-07-2007, 10:41 AM
To me, it's just confusing. I've even had a few salesmen say "oh, you mean the hatchback" when I've called them and asked them if they have any liftbacks. Even they are confused with the terminology.

blacksan
06-07-2007, 11:07 AM
To me, it's just confusing. I've even had a few salesmen say "oh, you mean the hatchback" when I've called them and asked them if they have any liftbacks. Even they are confused with the terminology.

You are confusing someone that works at a dealership with someone that actually knows what they are doing.:biggrin:

Yaris Revenge
06-07-2007, 11:19 AM
You are confusing someone that works at a dealership with someone that actually knows what they are doing.:biggrin:

Heh, I agree. I've yet to step into a dealership where the salesperson knows more about the car than I already do. 'Cuz I research my shiznit. :wink:

~YR

blacksan
06-07-2007, 11:31 AM
Heh, I agree. I've yet to step into a dealership where the salesperson knows more about the car than I already do. 'Cuz I research my shiznit. :wink:

~YR

Whew, ain't that the truth!

My last big brew ha was with an "expert" in the service department that didn't know the difference between fine and course thread fasteners. When I mentioned that being a machinist by trade kinda of made me feel comfy with my perception of the situation he still wanted to argue. Well, I proved him wrong and departed with things to my satisfaction. All I could think about on the way home is how many folks that didn't know better must have been screwed over by this clown over the years.:mad:

JosephDoc
06-07-2007, 12:36 PM
That is English problem, and maybe a new term they think it will aid to sales.

Remember "ALB" was used when 90 Prelude was released? ALB = Anti-Lock Braking. :bellyroll:

kurokoma-kun
06-07-2007, 12:43 PM
To keep people from calling it a "hunchback"?

brickhardmeat
06-07-2007, 01:48 PM
liftback sounds like comething european to me however before this car I can say I have never heard the term, I have always called a hatch a hatch until now that I drive a liftback

gabagooo
06-07-2007, 06:30 PM
On my registration in VA, my LB is described as a "Runabout." Now that's retro.

Astroman
06-07-2007, 06:35 PM
On the manual it states hatchback, while the website and the dealership call it a liftback. Check it out, it's there.

freshprince130
06-27-2007, 09:55 PM
haha yeah your right i went thru 3 salesmen getting my car and took my step dad so they wouldnt think i was some stupid kid and to make sure they didnt try to rip me off...he just laughed and said why did you take me again? Im taking you next time i get a new car

hasher22
06-27-2007, 10:12 PM
when i was younger i thaught it was called a hunchback since the back of most lift/hatchbacks were, well i cant explain......like "hunched"

ryz1711
07-07-2007, 05:13 AM
Here it's just a Yaris.. cos the sedan is called a Vios

Meteorite Man
07-07-2007, 08:50 AM
On the window sticker, I'm reading it right here...It says, 3-Door Liftback.

Chuck

tacsniper
07-07-2007, 04:56 PM
Lets just say its an American/Canadian thing... Americans call them liftback, Canadians call them hatchback :smoking:

WRBlue
07-07-2007, 10:06 PM
Yeah, also: the previously most common "hatchback" design functioned much more like a standard trunk that simply hinged above the rear window instead of below it. Today's designs tend to incorporate the entire rear section of the vehicle, well past the tail lights, so I think liftback is a better term.

Standard hatchback designs:

Thoes are all "fastbacks" - a slowly sloped, streamlined, sporty car. My DSM, fairlady, RX-7, and Supra were all fastbacks.
Where hatches have a more vertical rear, like a minivan or SUV. Technically minivans and SUVs are hatchbacks too.

But even more so, all fastbacks are hatchbacks, because fastbacks are thought of as a subset of hatches. But so not all hatches are fastbacks.

blacksan
07-07-2007, 10:40 PM
Hmmm, I personally dig the FB tag and will refer to my baby as such as I pay the bill! When I decide to call her the "Hunch-Back" so be it as I still pay the bill. I still dig her!!!!

MarkBen
07-08-2007, 11:05 PM
To keep people from calling it a "hunchback"?

My daghter called mine a hunchback.... but she's a blond....

hasher22
07-09-2007, 05:21 AM
My daghter called mine a hunchback.... but she's a blond....

ahha what a slack dad.......