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06YarisRS
07-11-2020, 06:42 PM
I recently changed my front rotors. Although I didn't do a brake bleed/flush then - I did this fairly recently - I started experiencing soggy brakes. The pedal would almost go to the floor. The car stopped fine, but the pedal was way too spongy. I started poking around and discovered that one of the old pieces of hose I spliced into the brake booster line - to tap into for my boost gauge and blow off valve - had a huge crack in it. While removing that small section of hose, I decided to check the brake booster check valve on the manifold. You could both blow into the manifold and suck air from the manifold. Strange indeed. I expected to be able to blow air into the manifold, but not suck air out. So, either it's not actually the check valve or it's broken. I dug a 3/8" a barbed aluminum check valve that I bought as an extra for my water/methanol injection system out of my junk box. I plumbed that in between the boost/BOV tee and the brake booster. Instantly, my firm pedal returned. As an added bonus, I boosted over 9 psi as opposed to my normal 7.5 - 8 psi. I may have to loosen my wastegate. Getting into sketchy territory at 9 psi with the stock engine.

All this to say, that if you have a spongy brake pedal, check the brake booster check valve. It is unlikely to be a regular failure item on most cars, but in my case, where I'm boosted, the pressure, as opposed to normal vacuum may have killed the check valve.

CrankyOldMan
07-13-2020, 09:09 AM
Good catch! I've always found the pedal feel to be pretty soft but never had it go almost to the floor to bite.

06YarisRS
07-13-2020, 03:18 PM
Good catch! I've always found the pedal feel to be pretty soft but never had it go almost to the floor to bite.

Thanks man. Yeah, it was a LOT softer than usual. I've been out for a few drives and it's good and solid now! I might still do a brake fluid flush. Never hurts, right. :thumbsup:

CrankyOldMan
07-14-2020, 12:56 PM
Speaking of brake flush, the Motive Power brake bleeder system is amazing! I bought the kit for my GM truck and also got an adapter for the Yaris--Motive doesn't seem to have one for our reservoir--from Assenmacher Tools: TOY18B. Pretty spendy if you won't be flushing the system more than once every 3 years but if you start doing track/race stuff it will be invaluable.