n00b suspension install question

[The Stig]

If I'm going to install Tein S Springs + TRD Shocks, do I need (aside from tools listed in DIY sticky):

1, Spring compressor?
2, Reuse stock bump stop?
3, What else do I need?

Thanks in advance guys!

[nqd]

i installed my s techs with the same bump stops but i used the stock shocks.... and yes you will need a spring compressor for the stock spring... i bought a set from my local automotive store and returned it the next day....


and third some beers and a nice sunny day

[joey1320]

add a good pizza and some sweaty hot chicks to pass you the tools.

but besides that you will need a spring compressor to switch over the top mount plates. you can either rent them or buy/return it if you don't plan on using it again.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

when we installed mine (same set up), we didn't need to use spring compressors. and we cut the bump stop like how Chris did.

heh, get ready for a stiff ride (although i wish it is a tad bit stiffer).

[The Stig]

cool, all i need now is about 50 hot chicks to pass me tools :biggrin:

thanks guys!

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

im also getting ready this saturday to install the same setup. CHRIS or someone else can you tell me how much you cut your bumpstops and do i really need to if i use the stock struts.....

[Toyotech]

im also getting ready this saturday to install the same setup. CHRIS or someone else can you tell me how much you cut your bumpstops and do i really need to if i use the stock struts.....

normally cut about 2 ribs off

[death is my gift]

stupid boys with your tools.
i STILL haven't gotten my Yari lowered.
good luck Stig

[kurokoma-kun]

stupid boys with your tools.
i STILL haven't gotten my Yari lowered.
good luck Stig

Maybe he will do it for you if you pass him the tools? :laugh:

Seriously I have a question about the spring compressor... is it completely safe to use at home? Something about handling the spring while its tensioned freaks me out...

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

normally cut about 2 ribs off
THIS IS GOOD FOR BOTH THE TRD AND STOCK STRUTS????

[The Stig]

Maybe he will do it for you if you pass him the tools? :laugh:

Seriously I have a question about the spring compressor... is it completely safe to use at home? Something about handling the spring while its tensioned freaks me out...

yeah i'm kind of paranoid about the compressor too, but i guess it's ok....it ain't my garage LOL...

death: i'm mechanically challenged...however, i got some mad lego skillz...reading a couple of DIYs got me think that this is just a full size lego set....yeah, i need lots of luck here :laugh:

[churp]

THIS IS GOOD FOR BOTH THE TRD AND STOCK STRUTS????

Myself I wouldn't cut them for the stock struts...they are designed to keep the strut cylinder from bottoming out. The bump stop bottoming is much softer and less damaging that having the cylinder bottom out. Aftermarket struts are probably different, but I can't imagine any car manufacturer engineering their products with more clearance than needed....it usually costs money!

Has anyone actually checked how far down the strut can go, with and without the bump stops....would be easy to do with the spring off. Then you could tell how much distance the bump stop has to compress before the cylinder bottoms. Of course then you'd have to decide how much you think the bump stop would compress under a severe load. No matter what...the longer the bump stop is the softer the 'thump' will be when it hits.

[slothman86]

or some huge guy named Hans to compress the spring for you

[Jerkratt]

my friend put spings in his mazda prog... and they used 4 ppl holding the spring down lol in his front lawn

[slvryaris]

Usually however far you drop it say its an inch then you cut an inch off the bump stop. I believe that is the rule of thumb. Double check Chris's DIY for sure.

[MrJester]

I cut ribs down on the bump stop don't notice much rub at all. There a couple pot holes on my way to work that will bottom me out but they are quite large so I just do my best avoid them. :)

[Thirty-Nine]

When I installed my Tein springs on my xB, I didn't need a compressor for the rear; I just unbolted the shocks, and the springs eventually popped right out. The front struts didn't need compressors, as they weren't under much load at all. Do the Yaris front struts need compressors?

[nqd]

yes i beleive its the same set up as the xb

[Kaotic Lazagna]

i didn't need a spring compressor when we installed my S.Tech's.

[nqd]

i didn't need a spring compressor when we installed my S.Tech's.

yea smae here but i DID need them to take off the stock springs

[MrJester]

Yeah taking the stock ones out you will need a compressor but for install you do not need a compressor.

[brickhardmeat]

installed my basics this past weekend no compressor for the rear and didn't even take the wheels off the rear, front needed compressor to get to parts, cut bump stops and cut dust covers front and rear

[Chris07LB]

Re-read my DIY.

Removing stock springs from stock struts - Use a spring compressor.. let's be safe here.

Installing new Tanabe's to stock struts - No spring compressor needed.

Look at the side by side pictures of the stock .vs. tanabe spring, and you will see why. :rolleyes:

Also, for those that wish to follow Tanabe's instructions, cutting the bump stop is also shown in my pictures... and how much to (which part) to reuse.

Just a reminder, this DIY was done using Tanabe DF's with stock struts and shocks.. using other springs and or struts and shocks, may require different measurements for cutting, or no cutting at all of your bump stops.

... back to dinner.

[brickhardmeat]

Re-read my DIY.



... back to dinner.

um....tacos?

[Chris07LB]

nope, better. :smile:

[nsmitchell]

I suggest one of these? Very good for the strut tower bolts so you don't strip them It is also a great tool to have.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_SessionID=@@@@0146893324.1184246051@ @@@&BV_EngineID=ccgiaddlgklghdfcefecemldffidfko.0&pid=00944366000&cat=Hand+Tools,+General+Purpose&subcat=Wrenches&vertical=TOOL&ihtoken=1