Weapon R intake?

[AlphaFox]

does this look legit??

http://autosportstyle.com/shop/toyota-2007-yaris-dragon-cold-intake-805157-weapon-dragon-cold-intake-p-65994.html

$105 for this?

[Nutzoids]

Yes... But I thought you were a "ChinoTake Intake supporter:bow: "

:evil:

[Doc Zaius]

Yes... But I thought you were a "ChinoTake Intake supporter:bow: "

Seriously! :rolleyes:

[Galavoxx]

I don't think WeaponR akes a Dragon filter setup for the Yaris just yet. Might check the Weapon Website to be sure. Otherwise, I have a Weapon shorty intake and it works great. Nothing against chino. :biggrin:

[RShatchback]

Not too bad a price, as time goes on you'll see intake prices drop. A friend of mine got a new v6 tiburon in 03 and paid top $ for an AEM cold air intake the first week he had it. Now you can hop online and grab one for way less than what he paid - same thing with his exhaust. Yaris intake prices will be dropping as more companies start producing them.

[WeSellCarParts]

We Can do $109 SHIPPED in Continental U.S. on the Dragon Intake if anyone is interested...

[Galavoxx]

We Can do $109 SHIPPED in Continental U.S. on the Dragon Intake if anyone is interested...

Does this have the Dragon Filter or the other Weapon Filter?

[tk-421]

We Can do $109 SHIPPED in Continental U.S. on the Dragon Intake if anyone is interested...

Please PM me a quote on this intake to Mexico City. thanks!

[07typeS]

I dont see the port for the maf sensor on that intake. Does anyone know if its included?

[AlphaFox]

Yes... But I thought you were a "ChinoTake Intake supporter:bow: "

:evil:

I am, but his is still a ways off...
I can wait no longer!! :drool:

[WeSellCarParts]

That is a generic picture; no official picture is out yet. As far as shipping to Mexico City, I already PM'ed you rates from Weapon-R.

I will work on getting a picture and also adding the item to our site so you can support your vendors :)

Thank you.

Dan

[AlphaFox]

OK, I placed an order for the dragon intake, silver piping with blue filter! I was slightly hesitant because there is no actual picture, just semi generic ones, but Dan seems nice enough. well will see... I will be posting pics once it comes in!

[bladesmith6]

Dude, you do realize that is not the secret weapon intake with the dual tubes, that is just a regular short ram,(i tihnk it has a velocity stack though) just wanted to point that out

[AlphaFox]

I know. I want a short ram, this is the only reasonably priced one I have seen yet for the Yari.

[Vanderkitten]

I have the WEAPON R. I have TRACK TESTED The WEAPON R. I installed the RAM AIR system through my left "fog light" hole. It is awesome, and pulls in a LOT of air. It sounds AWESOME, fits nice, and has a good fit and finish. I went to WEAPON R and bought it. It did not use the Dragon Filter, but that's fine because the Ram Air does not connect to it

I HIGHLY recommend Weapon R, they back up their products with dyno charts... and after buying and installing and using one, I can tell you they are awesome and got great props at the track for their sound.

[tca4]

Hmm some say the they have fittment issue and now Vanderkitten says it fits nice

[Vanderkitten]

Hmm some say the they have fittment issue and now Vanderkitten says it fits nice

Probably fits nice *NOW* that everyone else has had issues. :bellyroll:

I know they did not have the right size couplings, and because the throttle body is so small, you have to use secondary silicon shims. I did not use the support bar that came with it and have had no problems. I have coil-overs and drive on rough roads. Car has approx 1200 miles with intake and no loosening or leaking problems.

I can see, though, how the assembly could end up being wrong, esp. if they pack the wrong stuff.

Also, FWIW, I am not saying the Ram Air kit makes a performance gain other than bringing in cooler air to the intake. It did seem like it leaned out the top of the RPM range a little bit, but I have no way of knowing for sure. Sounds mean!

[wax420]

ive taking shits that look better then that

[slvryaris]

I dunno about the foam filter.

[MoeStylez]

does weapon R make an intake for the sedan or is that intake for the LB only...the website doesnt even verify which model the intake is for and the yaris actually isnt even listed on the cars that the intake will fit...any help?

[AlphaFox]

the intake is 99% of the cost, who gives a poo about the filter. you can pick one up at pepboys for like $30 later on...

[AlphaFox]

Just got it, and installed it. The installation instructions were lacking, to say the least. they supply tubing and a bracket that dont even need to be used, the bracket doesnt even fit anywhere I could see and isnt needed. I had to move some tubing that the instructions didnt specify either... after all that though it fit fine, although it does appear as though it was designed for a different yaris version, such as in europe or something. the tubing all lines up and fits fine, it is just in there at a weird looking angle.. maybe its normal, dunno. it did decrease intake air temperature by 10 deg F though, which is good! it pulls air from near the wheel well. I compared before and after temps with my scanguage. it is slightly louder than it was before, I was running with the bottom of the air box removed. the power is increased slightly, definately over 3K rpm it can be noticed. I will post pics later, I do recommend this for only $109 with free shipping!

[Galavoxx]

I think they used the short ram off a Scion. But i could be wrong. I'm still very curious what happened to the WeaponR 4-2-1 header? I didn't think they were going to pull it off and so far, I was right.

[tk-421]

I think they used the short ram off a Scion. But i could be wrong. I'm still very curious what happened to the WeaponR 4-2-1 header? I didn't think they were going to pull it off and so far, I was right.
+1

I am eagerly awaiting for that header to arrive. NST is also apparently looking into this as well. Hope that day comes soon!

[Galavoxx]

btw Alphafox, that little strap and clamp that came with the intake kit bolts on the front battery hold down. I would recommend fastening the thing so your intake doesn't bounce around in there. You will have to bend the strap to make it work. There is a ton of flex in that rubber coupler and too much bouncing could cause weird things to happen on intake pulses.

[Motorhead6T5]

Here's how I did mine,just got done a bit ago.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a250/motorhead6t5/yarisdragonintake.jpg



Gonna go out once it cools down to see if there is any gain over the stock airbox. I had to clean up the welds on the inside with a dremel for the maf to fit without scraping. For a bit over 100 bucks I can't complain. I order'd a obx conical 2.5" filter off ebay $18 cause I just don't like how the dragon filter looks. The filter housing itself is stuffed in the corner pretty good but not too bad,I'd say its a decent fit. With the conical I ordered it should be perfect.

[AlphaFox]

looks good motor, I couldnt figure out how to mount the bracket, so I attached the hook part to the battery tiedown and the other end to the bolt that came on the filter. I also relocated those hoses on top of your maf to under the intake. just cut some of the electrical tape that holds them where they are and they easily reach under the intake. then you can zip tie them to something so they dont flop around.

[Motorhead6T5]

looks good motor, I couldnt figure out how to mount the bracket, so I attached the hook part to the battery tiedown and the other end to the bolt that came on the filter. I also relocated those hoses on top of your maf to under the intake. just cut some of the electrical tape that holds them where they are and they easily reach under the intake. then you can zip tie them to something so they dont flop around.:w00t: Thanks I was wondering what I was gonna do about that,still want to put a band clamp on the hose before the maf. The bracket could be done a million ways I'm sure.


Edit: Also I got two filters with mine,it had an extra foam element that you can see daylight through And I'm sure flows more air. Its pretty dusty around here so I probably won't use it unless I go to the track. Got mine from wesellcarparts, shipped really fast too.

[Motorhead6T5]

Well I took her for a spin and omg does it change the sound of the motor,not sure on power. Definatly didn't lose power. The sound makes you wanna tach the piss out of it everywhere. I like it.

[bladesmith6]

I mentioned this before on this thread and no one even payed attention. I think there are 2 different intakes from Weapon-r both short ram but one is the Dragon intake(regular short ram with single tube) and the other is the Secret Weapon which has the inner tube for the "velocity effect". The dragon intake is around 100 bucks but for the Secret Weapon (which is the one they dyno tested)cheapest i've found is around $175 shipped. Which one did you guys buy!

[AlphaFox]

the one we are referring to here is the Dragon, just a single tube. not sure what dual tubes would do, the 'velocity effect' sounds kind of gimmickie to me. if all you want is a short ram, this is the one and its only $100.

Motor, mine came with two filters but I just assumed one was a replacement filter. you think they were different?

[Motorhead6T5]

I mentioned this before on this thread and no one even payed attention. I think there are 2 different intakes from Weapon-r both short ram but one is the Dragon intake(regular short ram with single tube) and the other is the Secret Weapon which has the inner tube for the "velocity effect". The dragon intake is around 100 bucks but for the Secret Weapon (which is the one they dyno tested)cheapest i've found is around $175 shipped. Which one did you guys buy!From what I have seen the two are exactly the same except the filter itself is different so the ram air tube can hook to it. The actual piping is the same I believe.

[Motorhead6T5]

the one we are referring to here is the Dragon, just a single tube. not sure what dual tubes would do, the 'velocity effect' sounds kind of gimmickie to me. if all you want is a short ram, this is the one and its only $100.

Motor, mine came with two filters but I just assumed one was a replacement filter. you think they were different?The extra filter mine came with was darker red and the foam is totaly diferent texture.

[AlphaFox]

From what I have seen the two are exactly the same except the filter itself is different so the ram air tube can hook to it. The actual piping is the same I believe.

and it costs 2.5X as much!

[Motorhead6T5]

and it costs 2.5X as much!The WR dragon is definatly the most bang for the buck out of all the intakes for the yaris. Soon ebay will be flooded with $40 china intakes i'm sure though.

[bladesmith6]

I'm pretty sure the Dragon is a single tube and the secret weapon has the inner tube which is why you pay more. otherwise doesn't make much sense!

[Vanderkitten]

To clear things up:
There is no double-tube intake available for the Yaris from Weapon R. The intake is short, and with the size of the intake at the T-body being so small, it was counter productive. The velocity effect is lost with a step-down as well.

FOAM FILTERS:
You NEED TO OIL your FOAM FILTER. I don't think they mention this. Go to a motorcycle shop that sells dirt bikes and take you pick from PJ1, NoToil, Motorex, etc.

Dragon v. Ram Air:
The dragon was not out when I got mine. You could lower your intake temp by removing the left fog-light plug for more airflow.

Again, we have 2 yaris', exactly the same, one has the ram air, one doesn't, and the one with is faster... by a miniscule margin, but it also has a different intake sound... it sound meaner and more tuned (intake sound going to the outside world.

Word up!!:headbang:

[bladesmith6]

Ok this is what I'm talking about could be false advertising but this is what I found: Toyota 2007 Yaris 1.5L Weapon-R Secret Weapon Intake System (305-157) The Weapon-R Secret Weapon Intake System was designed, to increase air intake volume to the engine. The concept is to create two different air velocity profiles, one traveling at higher speeds than the other does. This technology increases air volume and speed to the engine, which naturally feeds the engine 3x more air than the conventional air intake system. The intake pipe is bent out of high quality 6061 Aluminum on our Automated CNC mandrel bender. Polished to a high show quality finish. The SW1 Air filter features a tuned velocity stack to increase velocity and decrease turbulence.

Weapon-R Secret Weapon Air Intake Systems
Weapon-R Secret Weapon Air Intake Systems
How it works cut away illustration:
(1) High Density Foam Filter
(2) Turbo Velocity Stack
(3) Primary Airflow
(4) Secondary Airflow
(5) Air Funsion
(6) Hook Up for Optional Ram Air Hose


Where the Dragon in take for 109 buck has the funky colors and that cage around the filter element. I'm telling you there is a difference or there wouldn't be that large of a price difference and separate names, I research the crap out of things before I buy them.

[AlphaFox]

If all you want is a basic intake, the $109 dragon fits the bill... it has a short tube and a maf plate adapter; for me, thats all I was looking for.

Thanks for the info on oiling the filter, I have some older K&N filter oil that I can use.

[Motorhead6T5]

Where the Dragon in take for 109 buck has the funky colors and that cage around the filter element. I'm telling you there is a difference or there wouldn't be that large of a price difference and separate names, I research the crap out of things before I buy them.The difference is the filter and the ram air hose. The piping is the same. If you bought the secret weapon and put the dragon filter on it it would be the exact same thing as a dragon intake system. You are paying more for the ram air tube with the velocity stack on the front,and the new style filter.

[bladesmith6]

Well if that's true I'm sorry but it's false advertising, fact is the secret weapon intake is supposed to have dual tubes for the "velocity effect" ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITE. I have to say I don't like being lied to whether the product works or not.

[AlphaFox]

I oiled the filter tonight and secured the intake with the bracket better. I wont bother posting pics, its the same as the others posted.

Is anyone positive about the oiling? Id hate to screw up my MAF by using oil on a foam filter... is this the thing to do?

[Motorhead6T5]

Well if that's true I'm sorry but it's false advertising, fact is the secret weapon intake is supposed to have dual tubes for the "velocity effect" ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITE. I have to say I don't like being lied to whether the product works or not.Well if you mean it goes from big pipe to small pipe then they would be correct and thats how it is,and that would infact speed up the air. Its the same on the dragon though.maybe the WR guys can chime in???

[Motorhead6T5]

I oiled the filter tonight and secured the intake with the bracket better. I wont bother posting pics, its the same as the others posted.

Is anyone positive about the oiling? Id hate to screw up my MAF by using oil on a foam filter... is this the thing to do? Foam filters for dirtbikes are commonly oiled. Foam filters for R/C cars are oiled also. Use it sparingly.

[AlphaFox]

Foam filters for dirtbikes are commonly oiled. Foam filters for R/C cars are oiled also. Use it sparingly.

yes, I tried to but it didnt soak in very well. I ended up shaking it to get the excess out as well as using some compressed air. all you need is for it to be moist with oil, not dripping.. which it was at first!

[punch]

yikes the weopon-r site doesn't klist a dragon filter for the car the do list the more expensive version, sure you guys are buying the legit product?

[AlphaFox]

Its new, just came out. its legit look at the pics!

[Galavoxx]

yikes the weopon-r site doesn't klist a dragon filter for the car the do list the more expensive version, sure you guys are buying the legit product?

They are slow to update their site.

[WeSellCarParts]

Yes it is out and yes it is legit. We have them for $109 Shipped in Continental U.S. They aren't on Weapon R's site since it just came out very recently.

Dan

[AlphaFox]

Thanks again Dan, it fits and works great!
you might want to post that the filter should be oiled though...

[Motorhead6T5]

yikes the weopon-r site doesn't klist a dragon filter for the car the do list the more expensive version, sure you guys are buying the legit product?Well mine came with instructions that at the top says...

Dragon Intake: 805-157
2007 Toyota Yaris 1.5L


Shipped strait from Weapon R:thumbsup:

[punch]

OK then seems odd, that the company wouldn't have the product on there own website....

[bladesmith6]

I emailed weapon-r, Im getting to the bottom of this once and for all. I'll let you know as soon as I get the answers from them.

[WeSellCarParts]

Haha, really not needed when Brian (motorhead5T5) specifically told you all he has it and it shipped directly from Weapon R...

Thanks for the interest in this intake folks; we have been getting multiple orders and inquiries. I will post a thread for it shortly in the vendor forum!

:)

Dan

[bladesmith6]

I don't give a hoot about the Dragon vs Secret weapon part I want a straight answer about the dual tube contruction the secret weapon is supposed to have and I'm not accepting anything but an answer from the manufacturer. If it is nothing more than a regular short ram I'll just build the damn thing myself and save $150 bucks.

[weaponrcs]

I don't give a hoot about the Dragon vs Secret weapon part I want a straight answer about the dual tube contruction the secret weapon is supposed to have and I'm not accepting anything but an answer from the manufacturer. If it is nothing more than a regular short ram I'll just build the damn thing myself and save $150 bucks.


My name is chris w. I am the manager here at Weapon-R. The reason for the Secret Weapon not having the secondary tube in the Yaris is this. The sensor sits too close to the throttle that we actually tried it with the dual tube and it did not perform any better than the single tube. What it did do is perform better than the dragon intake filter. Hence the Secret Weapon intake is the best bet compared to the 2 intakes. Also the sensor section of the tube is tuned to maz gains. Any other questions feel free to call, email , or message.

[Vanderkitten]

I don't give a hoot about the Dragon vs Secret weapon part I want a straight answer about the dual tube contruction the secret weapon is supposed to have and I'm not accepting anything but an answer from the manufacturer. If it is nothing more than a regular short ram I'll just build the damn thing myself and save $150 bucks.

I think you just got served... It's funny, I think I've post 10 threads about the Weapon R intake, and it seems to fall on deaf ears. See, we have 2 Project Yaris', the only reason we have them is to test parts and deliver unbiased feedback while promoting our clothing company with 2 very unique cars.

We feel like it's a pretty good deal, and I believe my true comments of the Weapon R, particularly Ram Air v. no Ram Air provide a tremendous amount of value to those looking to make a $200 purchase decision. We still have 2 cars, one running the Ram Air kit, one running foglights, and the one with the Ram Air kit is faster and sounds A LOT better.

Your response above is just silly considering you are talking about $200 parts on a $13,000 car that MAY yield 3 extra HP. Many guys DO build their own, none of these companies claim their product is the best, and if a $100 intake feels the same as a $300 intake, more power to it!

[bladesmith6]

Depends what you mean by being "served" I got a straight answer from the source I asked for, that is all I really wanted. Although I do think they should put a note on that particular part# stating that the construction is different it would save some confusion. As far as being "silly" I've been working on cars since before I could drive(20 yrs worth) and I can take it all the way apart and put it back together and fabricate, point is I might be able to build one just as good, then again maybe not, I'm still learning:) But I feel I should take a shot, I have some parts around to try and thanks to some other peoples efforts I know what problems to look for. I'm not looking for a fight or flame war but what's the harm in trying to save a buck for a "relatively" simple and small assembly? If mine fails, they get my money anyway. My whole point is there is alot of misinformation from a lot of sources, guys on forums, vendor websites, and sometimes even the manufacturer of a product, don't always take their word for it, investigate and find out for sure, you work hard for your money be sure what you are spending it on, you know? Rant over you may now return to you regularly scheduled broadcast.

[AlphaFox]

well said bladesmith, I think we have cleared up some confusion reguarding the two intakes. the weapon has the 'ram air' adapter that sort of turns the intake into a CAI while the dragon R has a cheeper foam filter and no ram air. there is no double tube thing or anything, so if you want a slightly better filter and 'ram air' go for the weapon R. if you just want a basic intake that works, like me, go for the dragon. nuff said.

[AlphaFox]

hey, I just filled up since I started using the dragon. I have a scanguage, and when you fillup you put % off the computer is. well normally it reads about 3% off, but this time when I filled up I had to adjust it and it was almost -3% off!! so judging by that I got around 5% better milage, 40.25mpg using the intake! I was driving kind of crazy too, thought it wout be lower!! I drive about 60% highway, 40% country/city.

[Astroman]

So where is the cheapest place to get the dragon secret weapon intake? Best I found so far was $200 w/shipping.

[AlphaFox]

http://www.wesellcarparts.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=4858
This is where I got it, $109 shipped.

Dan, you better start giving me commision on these! :wink:

[Astroman]

Sweet, thanks! They also have the secret weapon intake for $189, $11 cheaper than what I could find. Alpha, could you post pics of your intake?? :biggrin:

EDIT: I found another site that is a tad cheaper for the secret intake, plus you get a RAM air kit, filter cleaner & seatbelt pads. http://www.racinglab.com/to964yar.html. $175.95

[AlphaFox]

the secret comes with the ram kit and extra filter by default.. thats why its more. the dude in the beginning of the thread posted a pic, its the same one as mine.

[bladesmith6]

http://www.racinglab.com/to964yar.html says $175.95 with free ground shipping until july 15th. Give it a look!

[AlphaFox]

ok.. anything over 109 is for the 'secret weapon'. it is basically the same exact thing as the dragon cept it has a tube to draw cold air and a different filter. IMO its stupid to pay more for that crap when you could just get a dryer vent hose and rig it up for free.

[BrazdonW]

i just got ordered the $109 Weapon R intake
does anyone have pictures of it installed?
or does anyone have any reviews of the intake?

[AlphaFox]

See page 2 for pic
this whole thread is like a big review..

[BrazdonW]

haha kay thanks
i was being lazy
i apologize

[bobobitch]

im sorry but i have a question which is better the weapon r secret or the weapon r dragon intake.. im having a hrad time choosing between the 2

[CASTREX]

im sorry but i have a question which is better the weapon r secret or the weapon r dragon intake.. im having a hrad time choosing between the 2

The WR Secret has a much nicer Filter. I think it comes with a cleaner kit for the filter.
The filter on the Dragon looks pretty cheap to me.

Other than that I think they are the same.


What I would do is get the cheap one (Dragon) and after a couple of months when you need to clean up the filter... just throw it away and replace it with a K&N filter.

[bobobitch]

you really so you think they are the same just with a different look??? would you happen to know which is heavier.. i cant find to much info on either of them so that is why im so confused... what kind of K&N filter would fit on the dragon intake though???

[bobobitch]

oh yeah also i know this is really random but where can i get the yaris sport speedometer you know with the tac and speedometer together i have been looking but can not find one thanks for anyone who can help me

[CASTREX]

you really so you think they are the same just with a different look??? would you happen to know which is heavier.. i cant find to much info on either of them so that is why im so confused... what kind of K&N filter would fit on the dragon intake though???

yes, the intake pipe should be exactly the same. The Secret has the nice higher end filter. And the Dragon has a chessy looking one imo

Weight difference should be minimal if any. The filter on the secret model looks more robust so it probably weight a tad more.

K&N has a very comprehensive guide on their site. Once you have the intake you just need to measure the diameter of the pipe and get a cone filter that fits on the pipe. pretty simple

Also, if you are looking for a nice and cheap short ram intake I would recomend you to look into the Simota units.

Those are sold by a forum sponsor Yarisuniverse.com (Kargoboy). Ive heard good reviews on those.

[CASTREX]

oh yeah also i know this is really random but where can i get the yaris sport speedometer you know with the tac and speedometer together i have been looking but can not find one thanks for anyone who can help me

Im pretty sure those are not available. And if they are it will be thru a Toyota delear and they probably will be really $$$$...

What must people have done is instal a separate Tachometer

[bobobitch]

allright i appreciate all the info..

[bobobitch]

hey another random question i think i made a mistake i accidently did a tune up with a
10w-30 enginge oil. will that mess up my sngine or will it be fine until i do my next oil change?

[CASTREX]

hey another random question i think i made a mistake i accidently did a tune up with a
10w-30 enginge oil. will that mess up my sngine or will it be fine until i do my next oil change?

10w-30 is perfectly fine for the car. You can even continue using that oil if you want.

Check your owners manual for the range of oils that you can use on the Yaris.