where's the performance products?

[punch]

cars been out over a year now in north america, we have 1 company making a turbo, and a blitz supercharger adding 40hp , so wheres the aftermarket????

I'm already bored with my car, and ready to sell it for a gas guzzlin jeep

[YarisGuy]

There is already quite a bit of support considering the car is only a year old. It usually takes at least several years for the aftermarket to grow and offer major options.

One thing is for sure, the more we do to our cars performance wise the more the aftermarket companies will take us seriously.

BLITZ
Tanabe
Tein
NST
C-ONE
Cusco

That is not too bad a list for a small car man.

[sdmf]

how on earth can you miss TRD, they make tons of part for the yaris/vitz, also you missed fujitsubo, f5 fujita, aem, weapon r, twm performance, chinocharles racing factory

[RShatchback]

I think part of the problem is no one wants to spend the money, you look around at the boards at posts looking at interests in parts - people are more interested in making their own or waiting for something cheaper. No one is going to be manufacturing parts like turbo kits when out of almost 4 thousand members only a handful have purchased them - while others are looking to piece together their own, or want to purchase one without an intercooler with lower boost to keep cost down. The aftermarket is dissapointing when you look at all the stuff available for something like the Honda Fit. I've been looking at a couple of different dealers this week - I'll probably have this car traded in before the year is through - mainly cause the aftermarket support is so dissapointing. We'll have to see...

[YarisGuy]

I think part of the problem is no one wants to spend the money, you look around at the boards at posts looking at interests in parts - people are more interested in making their own or waiting for something cheaper. No one is going to be manufacturing parts like turbo kits when out of almost 4 thousand members only a handful have purchased them - while others are looking to piece together their own, or want to purchase one without an intercooler with lower boost to keep cost down.

:bow: :bow: :clap: :clap: :clap: :bow: :bow:

[Nutzoids]

Um... Who wants to spend $10,000 to sup up a $12,000 car? These "Aftermarket" companies are more worried about turning, not just a buck, but a REALLY BIG BUCK!

OK so you say R&D but lets be honest, you just need to modify something you already have, no one is re-inventing the wheel here!

Greed now runs the aftermarket... before(now I'm showing my age) it was pride and respect... now ever since Mommy and Daddy pay for all of Jr.'s little toys until they die, now they can charge an arm and a leg for a hunk of crap!

Like $4000 for a 40whp supercharger!

But there are still some out there, Some companies that still keep the little guy in mind, and go above and beyond to save there customers a couple of bucks... Without saying any names...Cough NST Cough! They try there damndest to make their parts affordable for ANYONE...

Why can't a Turbo company make a "Watered Down" version... Where would Apple Computers be if they only sold $3,000 desktops and $2,000 laptops... they have em if you want em... but if you want a Mac Mini...$500!

You wanna sell your car? Do it... because your Bitching on this website won't help the cause!

Now if you wanna stand up and be heard... Well then your car better already have:

Megan Headers
Greddy Exahust
Tanabe Front Strut Bar
NST Pulleys
TWM Short Shifter Kit
F5 CAI
Bouche Platinum Spark Plugs
Grounding Kit
Upgraded Throttle Body
Tein Damper Kit
C-One Light Weight Flywheel
Konig Ultra Light Weight Wheels
TRD LSD
Stainless Steel Clutch and Break
C-One Rotors
Dezod Break pads
SEIBON Carbon Fiber Pieces

Then tell me your BORED!


:evil:

[RShatchback]

Well I wouldnt use a product from megan if you gave it to me, and the horsepower you would gain from that header and still using the cats makes me want shrug my shoulders - and why purchase a header if a decent turbo kit was in production...I ordered the Greddy exhaust and had it on my car before just about anyone probably - check the posts...I've got the Tanabe Strut bar....I'd rather wait for the entire pulley kit to be released than purchasing just the crank pulley.....I have the Trd short shifter...I have the Blitz Intake.....I doubt i'd notice a difference if someone installed plugs and a grounding kit while i was asleep - seriously....I wasnt aware of a TB upgrade? I've seen talk of a TC unit being used, but no aftermarket upgrade.....I have the TRD shocks (only cause they were all that was available) and Tanabe DF springs.......I can see replacing a flywheel if i was doing the clutch - which the car has no need for an aftermarket unit, so i doubt i'll be in there poking around otherwise....Already running a set of 15" Konig Hurrys, which are pretty light....LSD? for what traction problem......I can see upgrading the brakes, but i'd be more interested in a kit rather than pads and rotors...and I ordered the Seibon carbon lip and sideskirts lastweek.......

car has less than 4k miles on it - so if you want to stand up and be heard, dont say I'm bitching about whats available for this car as far as aftermarket is concerned.....

[Vanderkitten]

car has less than 4k miles on it - so if you want to stand up and be heard, dont say I'm bitching about whats available for this car as far as aftermarket is concerned.....

I have a feeling that in a very short amount of time your desires will be answered for parts. So says a little birdy... if you have your Yaris.

IMHO, the REAL stifle for the Yaris is the fact that Toyota North America wants you to buy a Scion if you want to tune it, and a Yaris if you want quirky cool gas mileage.

I have done what very few others have done, and those that HAVE experienced the same thing: Taking your Yaris to the track! This is a VERY capable car with minor mods.

Anyhow, I personally don't have half the stuff you have: the upper-strut, sway bar, etc. I don't think I need it. I could not find the limit of the tires without more brakes and HP. I kept up with a 160HP race Miata driven by an SCCA Instructor, and in fact, my OWN SCCA instructor could not keep up with me in HIS 160 HP Miata.. the only advantage I had was DOT-R Tires and if that made all of the difference, it was a damn easy mod.

The best way to make a car faster it to work on the driver... it's the cheapest, too. .

[dallas]

Whats this Greddy Exhaust I see no listing?

[hasher22]

every car is the same, once ur finish modding......u have fun for a while then u get bored....

[YarisTom73]

My own girlfriend, who exclaimed to me that she doesn't see the Yaris as a "tuner car", and drives a 93 Probe herself, didn't aggravate me nearly as much as motivate me to prove her wrong. Those of us who love our pocket rockets can only be bolstered by the taunts of those outside our circle. Just express yourself for yourself, not to be "representing" something because everyone else does it! :thumbsup:

[cdydjded]

I think part of the problem is no one wants to spend the money, you look around at the boards at posts looking at interests in parts - people are more interested in making their own or waiting for something cheaper. No one is going to be manufacturing parts like turbo kits when out of almost 4 thousand members only a handful have purchased them - while others are looking to piece together their own, or want to purchase one without an intercooler with lower boost to keep cost down. The aftermarket is dissapointing when you look at all the stuff available for something like the Honda Fit. I've been looking at a couple of different dealers this week - I'll probably have this car traded in before the year is through - mainly cause the aftermarket support is so dissapointing. We'll have to see...

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[staticorex]

I had this same problem with my Altima. I bought it its second year out and there was nothing. Much less than we have. Now there are plenty of FI options, internals, simple bolt-ons and tons of exterior upgrades. Its been a year. Give it time. It's not a Civic. :)

[ChinoCharles]

Um... Who wants to spend $10,000 to sup up a $12,000 car? These "Aftermarket" companies are more worried about turning, not just a buck, but a REALLY BIG BUCK!

OK so you say R&D but lets be honest, you just need to modify something you already have, no one is re-inventing the wheel here!

Greed now runs the aftermarket... before(now I'm showing my age) it was pride and respect... now ever since Mommy and Daddy pay for all of Jr.'s little toys until they die, now they can charge an arm and a leg for a hunk of crap!

Like $4000 for a 40whp supercharger!

But there are still some out there, Some companies that still keep the little guy in mind, and go above and beyond to save there customers a couple of bucks... Without saying any names...Cough NST Cough! They try there damndest to make their parts affordable for ANYONE...

Why can't a Turbo company make a "Watered Down" version... Where would Apple Computers be if they only sold $3,000 desktops and $2,000 laptops... they have em if you want em... but if you want a Mac Mini...$500!

You wanna sell your car? Do it... because your Bitching on this website won't help the cause!

Now if you wanna stand up and be heard... Well then your car better already have:

Megan Headers
Greddy Exahust
Tanabe Front Strut Bar
NST Pulleys
TWM Short Shifter Kit
F5 CAI
Bouche Platinum Spark Plugs
Grounding Kit
Upgraded Throttle Body
Tein Damper Kit
C-One Light Weight Flywheel
Konig Ultra Light Weight Wheels
TRD LSD
Stainless Steel Clutch and Break
C-One Rotors
Dezod Break pads
SEIBON Carbon Fiber Pieces

Then tell me your BORED!


:evil:

Quoted for being one of the great posts here. You nailed it Stever, and if you put your ear to the ground and listen really hard you'll hear rumbling. Options are coming. :headbang:

[NonStopTuning]

Thank you for the kind words Nutzoids.

:bow:

[Nutzoids]

Thank you for the kind words Nutzoids.

:bow:

Thank you for all your Aftermarket Support! (and great prices)

:evil:

[churp]

cars been out over a year now in north america, we have 1 company making a turbo, and a blitz supercharger adding 40hp , so wheres the aftermarket????

I'm already bored with my car, and ready to sell it for a gas guzzlin jeep

No offense to aftermarket--we need em, but the fun isn't bolting every trinket on your car thats available. The aftermarket can provide lots of items, and usually for less than you can build yourself, but all you end up with is variations of everyone elses car.....might as well buy a car that already fills the bill if you can't find the aftermarket items you think you need. Sort of like getting married.....don't marry the purty one thinking you can change her, find the one you can live with...it's cheaper.

[Nutzoids]

Sort of like getting married.....don't marry the purty one thinking you can change her, find the one you can live with...it's cheaper.

hahahahaha:bellyroll: :bellyroll: :bellyroll: :bellyroll:
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

:evil:

[punch]

There is already quite a bit of support considering the car is only a year old. It usually takes at least several years for the aftermarket to grow and offer major options.

One thing is for sure, the more we do to our cars performance wise the more the aftermarket companies will take us seriously.

BLITZ
Tanabe
Tein
NST
C-ONE
Cusco

That is not too bad a list for a small car man.

so wheres the performance, you list suspension companies...

[punch]

how on earth can you miss TRD, they make tons of part for the yaris/vitz, also you missed fujitsubo, f5 fujita, aem, weapon r, twm performance, chinocharles racing factory

wow air intakes....

[punch]

Um... Who wants to spend $10,000 to sup up a $12,000 car? These "Aftermarket" companies are more worried about turning, not just a buck, but a REALLY BIG BUCK!

OK so you say R&D but lets be honest, you just need to modify something you already have, no one is re-inventing the wheel here!

Greed now runs the aftermarket... before(now I'm showing my age) it was pride and respect... now ever since Mommy and Daddy pay for all of Jr.'s little toys until they die, now they can charge an arm and a leg for a hunk of crap!

Like $4000 for a 40whp supercharger!

But there are still some out there, Some companies that still keep the little guy in mind, and go above and beyond to save there customers a couple of bucks... Without saying any names...Cough NST Cough! They try there damndest to make their parts affordable for ANYONE...

Why can't a Turbo company make a "Watered Down" version... Where would Apple Computers be if they only sold $3,000 desktops and $2,000 laptops... they have em if you want em... but if you want a Mac Mini...$500!

You wanna sell your car? Do it... because your Bitching on this website won't help the cause!

Now if you wanna stand up and be heard... Well then your car better already have:

Megan Headers
Greddy Exahust
Tanabe Front Strut Bar
NST Pulleys
TWM Short Shifter Kit
F5 CAI
Bouche Platinum Spark Plugs
Grounding Kit
Upgraded Throttle Body
Tein Damper Kit
C-One Light Weight Flywheel
Konig Ultra Light Weight Wheels
TRD LSD
Stainless Steel Clutch and Break
C-One Rotors
Dezod Break pads
SEIBON Carbon Fiber Pieces

Then tell me your BORED!


:evil:

megan headers---- dyno proven to add nothing...
greddy----- rice exhaust not out for the sedan, or any other for that matter.
NST pulley ----add zero HP
WM Short Shifter Kit--- but my cars an automatic
F5 CAI---never heard of it, and what about hydro lock?
Bouche Platinum Spark Plugs
Grounding Kit---got it....
Upgraded Throttle Body---who makes this, and does it throw a CEL?
Tein Damper Kit---got me on that one
C-One Light Weight Flywheel-0- again automatic....
Konig Ultra Light Weight Wheels--- wheels are coming soon.....
TRD LSD------------automatic.....

[punch]

I think I'll stick around for awhile, I still have stereo mods to do, and rims, and a trd sway bar sitting in my garage,I think I'll work the suspension and hope for more turbo options in the future, thanks ....

[Motorhead6T5]

If you wanted performance you probably shouldn't have bought an automatic. Granted they end up woking great once you get into big power levels but nothing you are gonna see come from a 1.5L yaris.

I bought a 05 stang in jan 05,that car had decent aftermarket support relitively soon after its release,but it was a lot of the same thing,10 types of cold air intakes,only a few springs available,underdrive pulleys,exhaust,crappy headers that made no power or way over priced ones that do,the only real head start is the handheld tuners made for those cars. Thats the brick wall the yaris is at now,till we can tweak the ecu for a fair price,you aren't gonna see too much come out for this car that will actualy have a decent effect on power.

I was pleasently surprised with how much is out for this car considering its non performance based and only been out for a year in the US. I garuntee Japan has an crapload of parts out already for the vitz/yaris and will very soon for the belta/yaris. Getting them over here is another deal though,that relys on public interest.

[Nutzoids]

WM Short Shifter Kit--- but my cars an automatic
C-One Light Weight Flywheel-0- again automatic....
TRD LSD------------automatic.....

Let me say this so EVERYONE can understand...

Ahem...

IF YOU OWN AN AUTOMATIC, THEN YOU HAVE NO, ABSO-FUCKING-LUTLY NO RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT PERFORMANCE!

That is all!

:evil:

[yrsdrgn]

the only parts for autos to talk about is maybe just lowering or suspension components and muffler LOL engine performance = no point for autos....and i have one LOL o well.

[Nutzoids]

the only parts for autos to talk about is maybe just lowering or suspension components and muffler LOL engine performance = no point for autos....and i have one LOL o well.

:clap:

:evil:

[lostmind]

I know a guy that's driven an automatic turbo'd protege5 for years with no problems and no complaints. It's stinky fast too, killed wrx's.

Just thought I'd toss that out for fun.

I mean, it's quite obvious you can't really properly drive the yaris in automatic (I _ALWAYS_ catch myself trying to downshift)... but you could definitely pull more power outta it. Just gotta sit tight and wait for the aftermarket to mature a bit. Let the bleeding edge types spend their money and find out what works and what doesn't... :)

[punch]

Let me say this so EVERYONE can understand...

Ahem...

IF YOU OWN AN AUTOMATIC, THEN YOU HAVE NO, ABSO-FUCKING-LUTLY NO RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT PERFORMANCE!

That is all!

:evil:

hehe your a funny man, check out the srt-8's, corvettes, and 500hp auto stick pt cruiser's, and yes the next car will be a stick for me also...

Punch

[Nutzoids]

hehe your a funny man, check out the srt-8's, corvettes, and 500hp auto stick pt cruiser's, and yes the next car will be a stick for me also...

Punch

Lets not forget about the 106HP Yaris!

:evil:

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

hehe your a funny man, check out the srt-8's, corvettes, and 500hp auto stick pt cruiser's, and yes the next car will be a stick for me also...

Punch ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? how in hell are you gonna compare cars that have double the horsepower and triple the aftermarket support to a automatic yaris......

[churp]

Performance is pretty relative.....a 1.5 l Yaris is just that. Can't tell me all the mods that are available don't help the auto any less than the manual! And can't tell me the auto doesn't outperform the manuals in some instances, and vice versa....it's a matter of preference. Everyone can be a Walter Mitty, just not everyone knows how (or will ever be able) to use the manual better than auto.....fun factor isn't always the same as performance. My daughters swear by their MR2 5 speeds....myself I'd like to try the Spyder's paddle shifter.

Heck for $4,000 more than my Yaris....I would have bought a spyder/hitch/trailer and would have gas money for a year, probably better performance than a supercharged Yarii, and been able to carry more crap around.

[sdmf]

wow air intakes....

trd japan has alot of stuff for the yaris/vitz, check out the stuff from boomplustoys.com twm makes shortshifter kits, at least you have options, try searching stuff for the corolla

[ChinoCharles]

Fun fact... C-ONE has 30+ products alone.

We'll catch up on this side of the pond. Mark my words!

[punch]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? how in hell are you gonna compare cars that have double the horsepower and triple the aftermarket support to a automatic yaris......

well if you could follow along, I was referring to the dude who said you can't get performance with an automatic, and I posted a few hi powered cars with automatics...

if you can't follow a thread please stay out of it!

[punch]

Fun fact... C-ONE has 30+ products alone.

We'll catch up on this side of the pond. Mark my words!

chino, 30 + products, and from what I've seen there all suspension related or body parts, I was hoping for turbo options, or superchargers....

[ChinoCharles]

The reason you do not see bolt on turbocharger or supercharger kits made is because this engine cannot handle it! Seals start braking down with that much pressure in the cylinders over time. Have we learned nothing from the Scion crowd?

However, that does not mean all hope is lost for the 1NZ-FE. Don't forget this... we all have one thing and one thing only in common. We may differ in every other way, but we can all agree that as owners of this car we have some emotional investment in fuel economy. We're all sick of paying $50+ for a tank of gas, and now none of us have to! Now, what if someone busted out a solution to the power problem... a reasonably priced kit of parts to turn the 1NZ from an underpowered gas sipper into a reasonably powered occasional drinker. This may not be a supercharger or turbocharger... it may be some different internals, a different block and/or some type of engine management, or some nitrous or whatever. Whatever it takes. It all starts with a teardown of this engine and a pow-wow over the remnants. Until you've done that, you have no clue of this engine's proper solution. You're shooting in the dark.

As soon as you take the 1NZ out of the picture, this is no longer a FE-biased car. I'd rather see someone figure out how to make the 1NZ a little more powerful rather than seeing someone figure out how to bolt a 23 MPG engine into a 40 MPG car. It isn't in line with what this car is really about.

[Nutzoids]

The reason you do not see bolt on turbocharger or supercharger kits made is because this engine cannot handle it! Seals start braking down with that much pressure in the cylinders over time. Have we learned nothing from the Scion crowd?

However, that does not mean all hope is lost for the 1NZ-FE. Don't forget this... we all have one thing and one thing only in common. We may differ in every other way, but we can all agree that as owners of this car we have some emotional investment in fuel economy. We're all sick of paying $50+ for a tank of gas, and now none of us have to! Now, what if someone busted out a solution to the power problem... a reasonably priced kit of parts to turn the 1NZ from an underpowered gas sipper into a reasonably powered occasional drinker. This may not be a supercharger or turbocharger... it may be some different internals, a different block and/or some type of engine management, or some nitrous or whatever. Whatever it takes. It all starts with a teardown of this engine and a pow-wow over the remnants. Until you've done that, you have no clue of this engine's proper solution. You're shooting in the dark.

As soon as you take the 1NZ out of the picture, this is no longer a FE-biased car. I'd rather see someone figure out how to make the 1NZ a little more powerful rather than seeing someone figure out how to bolt a 23 MPG engine into a 40 MPG car. It isn't in line with what this car is really about.


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And just for the record when I said "If you have an Automatic you can't bitch about Performance" I wasn't talking about a Corvette... I was talking about when you walked up to the sales man and said "I would like my Yaris in an Automatic because I want all the Performance I can get from this 106HP beast!"

But of course you took my statement out of context... Maybe you did it so you can sleep better at night thinking that you really are "Street Racer" that your "Need for Speed" makes you feel like you have some power in your pathetic existence of a life?

I can't believe you really tried to compare a Yaris and a Corvette

Loser!

:evil:

[lostmind]

hehe, you guys are too mean to the poor guy. :)

Both sides of the argument are correct... You can drive a standard transmission vehicle so much more aggressively then an auto.

But saying anyone with an auto tranny has no right to bitch about performance is a little off.

Of course, saying the aftermarket sucks for the yaris when it's only been out a year over in North America is a bit silly (and kinda rude to those companies that are pioneering new products)... it's even more silly if you've purchased an auto and _only_ care about performance modifications. I had to buy an auto because my wife drives the yaris and refuses to learn to drive stick. I was quite sad, but the monetary savings of the yaris still made so much sense I had to go ahead and give up my manual tranny...

But having an auto doesn't negate the desire for more performance. The yaris screams for just a few more ponies and a slightly stiffer suspension with a drop. Of course, I first and foremost bought this car for economy and am selling the STi because it doesn't make sense to own so many cars. But I am still keeping an eye out for some performance mods that can yield some power without a giant sacrifice in mileage.

I don't think the original poster should be written off simply because he rides in an auto. If you look at the list of mods available, he is correct in that none of them add any significant power at all.

Myself, I am just lowering my car (TRD shocks and springs) and lightweight rims (debating between 15" and 16"... I want 15" but nothing is in stock and kinda iffy putting heavier 16's on this poor car). Then I'm just going to wait for NST to put out a custom pulley set for the yaris so someone can develop a supercharger kit... then I think I'll get the power craving I desire with the handling to make it fun, without a giant loss in fuel economy.

I guess the OP just doesn't have my patience ;)

[Nutzoids]

Look I understand the need for Automatics and I Understand not EVERYONE knows or wants to learn how to drive a Stick, I also understand that there are plenty of cars out there where the Automatic version of the car is just as good as the Stick...

I am just sick and tired of reading these post where people are just so negative all the time... the "I want more" or the "How come they won't cater to me" posts! and I just open my mouth in hopes to make these people feel just a little bit embarrassed, just to shut them up...

Most of us are here because we are true "Enthusiasts" most of us work with each other and companies to get the most out of our cars, our money, and our time... and threads like this one belittle all the hard work of the College kids, or the computer nerds, or even the accountants, that work hard, when it's not even there job, to make the Yaris the best it can be...

We have some pretty decent parts for our cars, and some pretty good options... Because of the members of THIS web site...

I just don't think post like this are not real encouraging to them!

:evil:

[lostmind]

I went thru the same thing when I bought my protege5. I was one of the first people to get one and there was absolutely nothing for it in terms of mods...

I paid close to $500 after shipping and duty for an AEM short ram intake and bought denso iridium plugs. That was all there was for the car. It took about two years before the aftermarket really took off for it. I'm sure it'll be the same for the yaris :)

[NonStopTuning]

Very interesting thread...

.

[contraband831]

If you can add a simple bolt on and get 1-2 hp out of it, then that is GREAT
if you are not satisfied with the aftermarket parts available for our YARIS, then then let it be and tarde in your YARIS, becuase i did NOT buy this car so i can get 200hp out of it, this is plain and simple a fuckin' commuter car not a high performance vehicle, not 500hp automatic, not a civic (aftermarket heaven), and not a beast.

But believe me like with any other car there are some individuals with a Yaris with the FUNDS and the MEANS to make this a monster, because they make it happen for themselves.

If you want POWER ZPI has a Turbo kit waiting for you and it will work in your automatic, and if you do not like ZPI for some reason, get a BLITZ or GREDDY SC and with some minor mods you will have some extra ponies, and if you say anything about all these mods costing too much, what did you think horsepower was cheap? even the least amount of HP cost money.

If money is not and issue for you then, you have nothing to complain about go out and make it happen for yourself, post some picks when you are done and just sit back, while we drool!!!!!

[punch]

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

And just for the record when I said "If you have an Automatic you can't bitch about Performance" I wasn't talking about a Corvette... I was talking about when you walked up to the sales man and said "I would like my Yaris in an Automatic because I want all the Performance I can get from this 106HP beast!"

But of course you took my statement out of context... Maybe you did it so you can sleep better at night thinking that you really are "Street Racer" that your "Need for Speed" makes you feel like you have some power in your pathetic existence of a life?

I can't believe you really tried to compare a Yaris and a Corvette

Loser!

:evil:

names, very mature....

I never compared the yaris to any car, you posted that an automatic was not a performance oriented , I proved you wrong...and provided examples of a few automatic performance cars. obviously an econobox isn't anything like the cars I listed...

Nope not a street racer , been there done that, grown up since then, I just like owning "sleeper cars"

I personally think I am an "enthusiast", every car I've owned has been hi-powered or modded with goodies, and if this wasn't my daily driver, I would jump at the current offerings that must be tweaked to work properly, my original post was about me venting that after 1 year, we have 1 turbo charger, and 1 supercharger for a different car, wheres the TRD bolt on HP goodies, or plug and play stuff, wheres the competition??

and finally competition is what lowers prices, so if we have 3 companies making a turbo, the prices of the turbo's will go down, until then ZPI can charge a large amount...

[punch]

If you can add a simple bolt on and get 1-2 hp out of it, then that is GREAT
if you are not satisfied with the aftermarket parts available for our YARIS, then then let it be and tarde in your YARIS, becuase i did NOT buy this car so i can get 200hp out of it, this is plain and simple a fuckin' commuter car not a high performance vehicle, not 500hp automatic, not a civic (aftermarket heaven), and not a beast.

But believe me like with any other car there are some individuals with a Yaris with the FUNDS and the MEANS to make this a monster, because they make it happen for themselves.

If you want POWER ZPI has a Turbo kit waiting for you and it will work in your automatic, and if you do not like ZPI for some reason, get a BLITZ or GREDDY SC and with some minor mods you will have some extra ponies, and if you say anything about all these mods costing too much, what did you think horsepower was cheap? even the least amount of HP cost money.

If money is not and issue for you then, you have nothing to complain about go out and make it happen for yourself, post some picks when you are done and just sit back, while we drool!!!!!

Well, regarding the ZPI, it is allot of money, and a new product, i'd rather wait to see how it works out for those brave enough to install it, the superchargers you mention are not for this car..and require engine management, fuel control etc...I was hoping after a year we would see a few more option, plug and play, ready to go...

yes HP cost's money, I think I paid $250 to add 30hp (I don't have the exact figures right now)to my pt cruiser, and others with the srt-4 are adding 140hp for aprox $2000, so a ZPI turbo at $3000 for maybe 50HP is a big difference...

and again you are correct, I had no intention of modding this car, it was bought as a commuter car, but it's nice to have some toys under the hood. it's in my blood.

[contraband831]

Well, regarding the ZPI, it is allot of money, and a new product, i'd rather wait to see how it works out for those brave enough to install it, the superchargers you mention are not for this car..and require engine management, fuel control etc...I was hoping after a year we would see a few more option, plug and play, ready to go...

yes HP cost's money, I think I paid $250 to add 30hp (I don't have the exact figures right now)to my pt cruiser, and others with the srt-4 are adding 140hp for aprox $2000, so a ZPI turbo at $3000 for maybe 50HP is a big difference...

and again you are correct, I had no intention of modding this car, it was bought as a commuter car, but it's nice to have some toys under the hood. it's in my blood.

The SC's are not for our car, but with some modification they easily bolt right up, this is where i go back to -if you want power at this early stage of the yaris in the sates then you would have to make it for yourself-

I know one day we will have some options, but until then we can only sit and wait, if we have nothing for us in one, two years then of course we got screwed and this thread would be a legitamite, but right now it is just to early in the game to ask WHERE ARE THE PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS? and the quick answer would be THE PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS ARE BEING DEVELOPED! R&D takes time. Products need to be tested and tested again, and then maybe, just maybe, production will being, then plug and play :burnrubber:

[kurokoma-kun]

Increased supply is usually a response to increased demand, isn't it? Somebody makes an item, sells it like popcorn, and a bunch of other guys jump in with their own offerings.

Talking about what you wish was available merely indicates potential interest in a product. But for a manufacturer to produce one they must have reasonable confidence that there will be demand.

If you want to encourage competition then put your money where your mouth is. Make the competition wish they could get their hands on all the cash you are giving to the other guy!

[punch]

Increased supply is usually a response to increased demand, isn't it? Somebody makes an item, sells it like popcorn, and a bunch of other guys jump in with their own offerings.

Talking about what you wish was available merely indicates potential interest in a product. But for a manufacturer to produce one they must have reasonable confidence that there will be demand.

If you want to encourage competition then put your money where your mouth is. Make the competition wish they could get their hands on all the cash you are giving to the other guy!


I understand your point BUT, to put my money where my mouth is ;would have me buying a ZPI turbo for $3000, then I wouldn't need to buy the other guys cheaper turbo when it comes out, so your theory is now only good for you.

[kurokoma-kun]

I understand your point BUT, to put my money where my mouth is ;would have me buying a ZPI turbo for $3000, then I wouldn't need to buy the other guys cheaper turbo when it comes out, so your theory is now only good for you.

Sorry, it's just that it sounds like you are looking for a solution that is only good for you!

Besides, how much cheaper is the next guy's turbo likely to be? Someone has to be the "early adopter," and since you are bored with your car and want to add some power, why not take the plunge?

[ChinoCharles]

We've got plenty of demand for $100 parts. Up that total to $300 and the demand fizzles. If you guys are honestly wondering why companies are reluctant to put together $2500+ power options for us, you aren't paying attention. Its OK because in the end nobody would buy them anyway... maybe Nutzoids and thats it!

[brickhardmeat]

I think people that are going to lay down that kind of money would just buy a volkswagen. ah, whatever

:frown:

[kurokoma-kun]

We've got plenty of demand for $100 parts. Up that total to $300 and the demand fizzles. If you guys are honestly wondering why companies are reluctant to put together $2500+ power options for us, you aren't paying attention. Its OK because in the end nobody would buy them anyway... maybe Nutzoids and thats it!

word!

[Nutzoids]

We've got plenty of demand for $100 parts. Up that total to $300 and the demand fizzles. If you guys are honestly wondering why companies are reluctant to put together $2500+ power options for us, you aren't paying attention. Its OK because in the end nobody would buy them anyway... maybe Nutzoids and thats it!

It depends on what I would get for my $2500!

:evil:

[Lafiro]

Where are the performace items??


There all over the place man!!!!!!!

Don't you see them!!!!????????

There all out there for performace cars!!!!!!

Not our econobox!!!!!!!!

[YarisGuy]

Increased supply is usually a response to increased demand, isn't it? Somebody makes an item, sells it like popcorn, and a bunch of other guys jump in with their own offerings.

Talking about what you wish was available merely indicates potential interest in a product. But for a manufacturer to produce one they must have reasonable confidence that there will be demand.

If you want to encourage competition then put your money where your mouth is. Make the competition wish they could get their hands on all the cash you are giving to the other guy!

I love you! :bow: :bow: :bow:

[punch]

We've got plenty of demand for $100 parts. Up that total to $300 and the demand fizzles. If you guys are honestly wondering why companies are reluctant to put together $2500+ power options for us, you aren't paying attention. Its OK because in the end nobody would buy them anyway... maybe Nutzoids and thats it!

It's not the cost of the turbo that scares me right now, its the cost of repairing a damaged automatic tranny or busted axles, etc... I can't afford to be the guinea pic, to find out what breaks, been there done that with my autostick tranny in my pt cruiser,( it breaks at 240HP if any wants to know )

plus voiding a perfectly good warrenty isn't my idea of fun yet either, if the car was a bit older maybe, I really had hoped for a TRD HP add-on, but I guess not.

[kurokoma-kun]

I really had hoped for a TRD HP add-on, but I guess not.

It's true, why has TRD not stepped up with performance parts the way they have for their trucks? :iono:

[ChinoCharles]

Because they know the 1NZ is built for FE and not speed. You cannot just slap an extra 50-75 HP on a car like this and expect everything to be fine and dandy 50,000 miles down the road. You may get lucky, but it would be just that... luck. Other things are going to break or require attention. Is TRD going to package a clutch, axles, connecting rods and forced induction? [among the half dozen other things I could think about replacing]

Unfortunately spkrman is no longer with us. I really wanted to hear the story about the day his car blew up. turboyaris is a little smarter and he is already looking at rebuilding the engine so it can HANDLE the 180 WHP he slapped on it a while back. Smart guy, that Nick. Take notes!

[YarisTom73]

There's more money to be had from the truck crowd..obviously, in their opinion, you're buying the yaris for cheap transportation. Thus, we won't be inclined to spend more money to go fast. Not necessarily MY opinion :rolleyes:

[cali yaris]

ok, here's my two bits. If it wasn't made by Zero Parts Industries, that turbo kit would be on my car yesterday. I have NO problem with a $3,000 turbo kit (the one for my tC was originally $4800 + install + tuning)

I admit I'm probably a small minority of the market... sadly.

[cleong]

From these forums I found out some enterprising guy took Honda CBR1100 or some other motorbike's ITB and fitted it up to a Scion. It made 35 extra horses but cost so much that no one bought it because it cost what I remember was three grand.

How good is it? Blitz had to go the forced induction route to get 25-30 hp, whereas this guy did it with NA (imagine the induction noise - free of charge!).

Apparently he ended up selling so few kits it wasn't worth the trouble.

You whine about the lack of aftermarket parts, you want the aftermarket companies to make it available, preferably in competition, so you can choose the cheapest, you want someone else to be the guinea pig, and you don't want to void your warranty.

Having your cake and eating it comes to mind, but it seems you want the other guy's cake too.