Well seems the F&*king Power Package with Manual is impossible in the States(Hatch)

[gaffo]

Never mind that they sold 270,000 in europe, Japan and Australia.

Never mind that you can get the automatic with power

called Dallas, OKC, Tulsa, Muskogee, Ardmore......................

all the same crap -

salesman:"we can preference but not order direct - oh ya BTW the manual with power package don't exist"

me: "but Toyota made and sold 1/4 of a million Hatchback standards with power package!! They do exist"

salesman: "well, I've never seen one - they don't exist in this region of the country.

me: "well obviously - otherwise I would not be on a waitinglist for 3-months with one dealer who does not return my phonecalls and would not be calling longdistance to talk to you! Oh BTW Florida dealers have several manuals with power package".

salesman: "well the Yaris is ment to me a bare bone commuter car only"

me: "ok - but why does the Automatic Yaris have Power package on so many if that is true"?

salesman: "Americans don't drive standards - only 1-percent do, the rest of us rive automatics and veiw automatics as an upgrade - so that is why we offer the powerpackage only on automatics. It would not make sense to offer the power package (an upgrade) on an manual if you have not upgrade the transmision to a automatic".

me: "but i don't like automatics - I like shifting!!!"

salesman: "Thats nuts. Are you an American?"

me: "yes, but like driving!"

salesman: "well I've got a million nice Scion XA manuals with power package".

me: "I don't want an XA, I want a Yaris - and why do you offer all the options on the XA and none on the Yaris when they are the same car under that body??!!??"

salesman: "Scion are "Trandy - for the kewl jetset - yaris is a commuter car. Here I 've this Scion XA - good deal why not just buy it instead"

me: "no thanks, I'm looking for a Yaris"

salesman: "What do you have against the Scions?"

me: " don't like their looks - I like the Yaris MUCH better"

salesman: "well good luck in finding waht you want".



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this sums up the conversations I had with 7 or 8 sales man/women - including their reasoning as to why the Yaris does not and should not offer any options - esp. if it is the Hatchback manual.

and yes half of them did the Scion XA spiel.


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to sum up - f&*k it. If Toyota don't want to offer anything options in this car HERE IN THE US (and yet do so in the rest of the WORLD) - they've just lost me as a customer.

screw em.
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maybe they will wise up in 2008 and actually offer options - but from what I've expereinced I really don't think they will.



500 bucks and 3 months and nothin.....................tick tock tick tock.......

[paradigm]

lmao. I saw like 2 power hb's on the dealer here just the other day

[adamschneider]

I definitely had the option to get a MT liftback with the power package here in the Northwest. I didn't want the PP, as I didn't fancy paying $1000 extra for, basically, keyless entry, but it was there.

You may have to look outside your region. Or, trying calling a dealership and ASK TO TALK TO THE FLEET MANAGER. They typically won't give you the same song-and-dance as the commissioned sales people on the showroom floor.

[tds12]

Don't forget. The only way to get the cool split fold flat rear seat is to purchase the power package. It is worth $500 alone. Seats slide foreward to give double the hatch room without folding the seats.

[Vanderkitten]

Seriously, most of the HB's on this forum have the power package!! Were the 7-8 sales people all at the same dealership? There is an ABS/Side Airbag package that I have not seen.

In Berkeley, they tried to sell me on the Xa... in Walnut Creek they said: "We can find whatever you want." ADVICE: Try a different dealer. CALL ALL OVER THE PLACE

How do you know a car salesman is lying?
His lips are moving!
:laughabove:

[gaffo]

ya - new dealer.

or just no dealer and forget it. - get my money back for sure.

I did call all over the place. 8 different dealers in 5 different cities. all said the South-central region simply did not get MT-PP cars: TX-OK-LA-AR-(and another state I forget).

told em that Florida had several and one told me to go get on a plane and get it.

guess they just don't want my business - great way to sell a car.

[Motorhead6T5]

I had a talk with the salesman when I bought me car about the very same thing. Up in Reno Nevada you can get a base sedan with manual,where I live you can only get a S model with a manual. The salesman says toyota runs the numbers and figures out what sells best in each specific area and thats what they send there. Funny thing is I found a manual base sedan but it had a bunch of miles on it like it was driven from reno or about that far,dealer trade maybe? The car had trim I haven't ever seen on any other yaris either.

But basicly the dealer has no say over the cars they are alocated(sp?) from toyota. You need to travel out of the area to find your car. You can play around with zip codes on toyota.com buildup and that will let you know what options are available in which areas.

[esola]

Up here in New England, I had a hell of a time chosing my Yaris. I wanted power package, ABS, and the other crap, but I could only find one or the other -> not one single car that had everything I wanted. I settled for one with ABS and front/rear airbags instead of power package. To be honest... hasn't made one bit of difference... and I actually paid less for ABS than I would have for the power pack. Personnaly, I think the dealers don't order these cars well equipped because they want to upgrade you to a sedan or a Corolla or some other car. It's all about hopw much they make and not about what the consumer wants. I love my Yaris but I had one of the crappiest buying experiences ever. I swear that next to politicians, car salesmen must be some of the most unpopular people in this country! I know I'm generalizing,
I just wish that the whole car shopping experience wouldn't suck so bad especially when I'm dishing out so much money. Thanks for listening to my rantings - I feel better now.

[woof]

esola, I wish I had chosen ABS. I bent a wheel in a wet weather skid...if I had had ABS it wouldn't have happened. Until that moment, I wasn't sure ABS was worth it or effective--now I know! :thumbsup:

What gets my bowels in an uproar is that they gave the sedan the "Sports" designation with the tach and whatever else. Elsewhere in the world that would usually go into the LB and it should have here! I really like the looks of my LB and wanted it to handle better and would have appreciated a tach. For some reason, all foreign manufacturers treat us like cars are nothing but toasters here.

[SailDesign]

I was offered all kinds of good stuff on the car, but what I wanted was the base model. They had one with the "cold-weather" package, and the "convenience" package, which was fine since I did want the CD player. I turned down one with the power windows, ertc, and the one with the ABS because I'm strange like that. I like being able to wind down the windows by hand (too many bad experiences with power ones) and I like to use my own brakes properly, not have someone plough into my butt because I had ABS and he didn't (again, experience, but I was the one without ABS, and it was the other guy who went to hospital, not me)
Each to his own, though. That's what makes life interesting. :smile:

[sandiegan]

I could not find a Yaris hatch with ABS brakes in SoCal for the life of me. Called 10 Toyota dealers in LA, no dice.

[ROCKLANDTOYOTA]

WORKING for a dealer isn't any better. the closest MT BB HB with power package was more than 400 miles away and i would either have had to go pick it up my expense or pay an extra eight hundred to have it trucked in..

[static808]

for anyone in SoCal, two words: Norwalk Toyota. they custom order your car for you. no preference bullshit. you list what you want, they order, and 12 weeks later your car arrives. simple as that. great buying experience from that place. very FEW dealerships do this custom order stuff. to the OP, i hope you can find a local dealership that WILl order your car for you...good luck!

--B

[cali yaris]

Hamer Toyota had my liftback + Power package in stock.

[tacsniper]

come buy one from Canada and support our economy! Not only do you get manual, you can also get a 4rd RS with authentic rally spoiler! :biggrin:

[cali yaris]

aw man, I"m moving to Canada...just for the spoiler! :wink:

[Kioshi]

Hey gaffo....when you do get ahold of a Yaris LB manual w/ Power Package....when your mailed the survey by Toyota......make the survey ratings really bad on it w/ smal complaint note. Not that it will make a whole lotta difference but something to consider I guess.

Texas and all those other states are weird....on my first question to the dealer to where they have the Yaris in the lot...I found her. BayouBlue Yaris LB Manual w/ power package~

[grampi]

Why not cut out all the garbage and tell them to order it from the factory just the way you want it. Then if they tell you you can't order it the way you want it, you can tell them they're full of crap and take your business to another dealership that actually wants it.

[WRBlue]

In Berkeley, they tried to sell me on the Xa... in Walnut Creek they said: "We can find whatever you want." ADVICE: Try a different dealer. CALL ALL OVER THE PLACE

In Roseville, CA, they had one automatic hatch, and about 5 sedans.
In Auburn, 10 miles up the mountain, they had about 10 manual hatches, 5 autos, and about 3 sedans when we bought. We didn't want to wait, so no power package on the colour we wanted, and really I don't remember if they even had the power package on a manual.

Roseville sells about 5x the number of cars that Auburn does. Usually a smaller dealership will work with you more ;)

[sandiegan]

Why not cut out all the garbage and tell them to order it from the factory just the way you want it. Then if they tell you you can't order it the way you want it, you can tell them they're full of crap and take your business to another dealership that actually wants it.

Car on the lot = you can haggle. Ordering from the factory = you pay more.

[cm07yaris]

Hey gaffo....when you do get ahold of a Yaris LB manual w/ Power Package....when your mailed the survey by Toyota......make the survey ratings really bad on it w/ smal complaint note. Not that it will make a whole lotta difference but something to consider I guess.

Texas and all those other states are weird....on my first question to the dealer to where they have the Yaris in the lot...I found her. BayouBlue Yaris LB Manual w/ power package~

That is the dumbest thing ive heard, and what are they going to do about it? Honestly they do whatever they can to please their customers. I say chill out and wait like most of us here had to do!

[static808]

Car on the lot = you can haggle. Ordering from the factory = you pay more.

somewhat true. but you dont have to pay sticker. we paid 500 over invoice, not the greatest i know, but no other LB in SoCal has the color and options package that have. cant put a price tag on getting exactly what you want and avoiding buyer's remorse. buying a yaris without the PP, regretting it, and then trying to add the PP via aftermarket will just end up costing you more in the long run. wishing good luck to the OP...

--B

[grampi]

That's why I'm going to order mine from the factory the way I want it. Hopefully the '08 LB's will have a tach and cruise available.

[PMC]

I had the same problem. I even waiterd for 3 months. This being my work car i decided just to get cruise control and that was it.

Its not so wide that i cant roll the windows down. Plus its only about $300 to add electric locks with alarm and keyless entry from local aftermarket auto shops.

I got a manual LB with cruise and payed $100 under invoice.

I love the car.

We should start an OK owners club

[thatboyjer]

i'm from texas and i couldn't get my Yaris manual with PP unless i waited along ass time or ordered from the factory. But using that as some leverage we bargained the price extremely low and got a fresh coat of paint, tint, and convieniece package before we got the car.

sa'll good.

[JosephDoc]

salesman:"we can preference but not order direct - oh ya BTW the manual with power package don't exist"

power package!! They do exist"

salesman: "well, I've never seen one - they don't exist in this region of the country.

salesman: "well the Yaris is ment to me a bare bone commuter car only"

salesman: "Americans don't drive standards - only 1-percent do, the rest of us rive automatics and veiw automatics as an upgrade - so that is why we offer the powerpackage only on automatics. It would not make sense to offer the power package (an upgrade) on an manual if you have not upgrade the transmision to a automatic".

salesman: "well I've got a million nice Scion XA manuals with power package".

salesman: "well good luck in finding waht you want".




I had almost identical reply as the list above (cut out from your post) at Fremont Toyota in California (NorCal). I was first ghosting in the dealer for good 1 hour and no sales came approaching me (cheap+chubby look maybe). The place was like a downtown swap-meet and I actually help myself to butt in a few cars including the FJs. Then it was getting near closing hour and finally a combo of one guy and one woman come to me and did the conversation.

Sigh.. dealers are just dealers; Toyota dealers in US does not own by Toyota; the car is good but oftently wrapping with tons of saleman's B/S.

I accidently found mine with MT & PwrPak in another dealer another day, while they were unloading the gem from the truck. It had 2.7 miles and was under the plastic wrap and no bumper holes yet. One lucky day in my life.

:redface:

[grampi]

Car on the lot = you can haggle. Ordering from the factory = you pay more.

Maybe, but will the little savings you might get be worth all the grief? I'd rather pay a couple hundred bucks more and know I'm going to get the EXACT car I want.

[gaffo]

Why not cut out all the garbage and tell them to order it from the factory just the way you want it. Then if they tell you you can't order it the way you want it, you can tell them they're full of crap and take your business to another dealership that actually wants it.

thats what I did in MARCH! - I've called in april and may asking for a progress report - salesman was always "out" - left messages and number NEVER got any call backs.

In May I DROVE UP there (30 miles away) - they blew me off - just said "we ordered it and have no progress to report"

Returned in late June to get my money (500 check down) back after NO SERVICE and NO RETURNING MY CALLS..................they said that the car is now "being built" at the factory in Japan and to wait maybe up to another 3- months.

the worst fucking service I've even delt with - I saved up the god-damned CASH for 18 months and can buy the thing in total up to 17k, and these jokers don;t even retrun my fucking phonecalls!

Toyota GET YOUR HOUSE IN ORDER!

[drifto]

thats f'd up dude, if a salesman dared to question me about being an american b/c i wanted to drive standard id tell him to go suck a fat dick. seriously where do these salespeople get trained? luckily i got referred to my salesman from a coworker, he hooked me up. you can get the package, but certain regions get more than others and it has to be ordered from the factory. so you have to wait a while for it. most of these asshat salespeople want the sale done asap to meet their commision quotas so they push for you to take a scion, or tell you it doesnt exist. i hope you find what your looking for though. i have a 5sp hatch. didnt want the power package so it didnt matter to me.