US Yaris crash test are in

[oehtam]

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/cars/3846.html

[pennystocks]

Just be cautious when running yellow lights :)

[Packy]

^LOL!

Hrm... not horrible, but not that impressive. Almost the same as a Scion xB, except the xB got 4 stars for rear side impact.

[corey415]

Hmm, not the greatest scores. The Honda Fit actually fared better according to this test.

[El Jefe]

damn i could watch those all day, i want that job!!!

[Uglyboyed]

me too.. that job seems awesome!!! well the test are'nt terrible, but are'nt good at the same time. I still love my car

[Packy]

Yeah, Fit got 5/5/5/3.

[stuffy]

is there a crash test for the hatchback?

[Violin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGrNBxfpXVg

[swng]

Great tests!
The published results in respect of the sedan are not bad for a small car, though admittedly not excellent. The test shown in the video about the HB (called LB in the US) is very illustrative but apparently there are no ratings shown. However, I would say the HB's performance is obviously quite good, at least for a small car. Too bad that there are no side airbags on my car.
I submit that active safety (that includes driving safely) is as important as passive safety (that's what the tests have tried to rate/illustrate), and we good Yaris drivers can/should drive in a smart/defensive way to avoid crashes as far as possible.
Thanks for posting the links!

[static808]

be careful if you're basing purchases off of these tests, since many toyotas/scions tested by the nhtsa have side airbags as optional. if thats the case, the test vehicle probably WONT have those airbags in place. in this case, they werent there, and that can account for a moderate side impact score. when nhtsa re-tests cars with side airbags equipped, the impact scores increase dramatically (happens with a bunch of domestic cars...gotta keep american car companies in business, so re-test the vehicle and advertise the better safety scores) also, the institute of highway safety test scores provide a better gauge of vehicle safety (more realistic impact scenarios), especially with the insane number of SUVs out there (nhtsa tests dont hit cars high enough, therefore not correctly replicating an impact from an SUV). if you want pretty accurate safety test scores, you can also check out the euro scores for cars. i think the tests there are usually pretty rigid and demanding, meaning if they do well there, they should do well fairly well (if not better) here.

--B

[Violin]

I think that the Yaris sold in Europe has a full compliment of air bags including a knee air bag that we can't even get. Toyota hates North America, the US in particular, and wants us all to die painful deaths.

If you watch the video, you can appreciate how important the side curtain air bag is. Wish I could have found a Yaris with them.

[MrMondayNite]

I've seen Yaris Side Air Bags sold on ebay for either $650 or $750, I wonder if a dealer can install these airbags in a non side air bag car.

[acrbill]

That video just scared the crap out of me! Imagine what would have happened to that dummy's head without that side curtain bag.

Toyota should have upped the HP so we at least had a chance of getting away from a potential accident. :biggrin:

[BMGYaris]

HEY, i just wanted to point out to you guys that this has been out for a while, plus, the head injury criteron was not used in calculating the side impact star ratings which means that the side curtain airbags would not have improved the star rating any. The side airbags do come with lower torso side airbags, but they, according to nhtsa, generallly only decreased the serious injuries by about10% (note, not 10% of total crashes, but 10% of serious injuries) which means that side airbags would not really do anything to improve that score much at all.

[Katana]

Ιn European tests, Yaris is one of the best in results!

[RogueYaris]

FYI, there is info on the site of what was installed on the vehicle when it was tested.

The Fit had airbags all around. The Yaris didn't.

[mutatio]

the side crash tests (3 stars) i've seen so far only have the front airbags installed. the video showed a side impact w/ side airbags, sooo...????

[hystria]

Can't see why in North America there is no option for such additional protection for the Yaris LB :iono: :

source: http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=11030&vf=1

"Safety:
Anti-lock brakes are now standard across the range and an inexpensive option pack boasting side/curtain airbags and the segment’s first knee airbags is also available. Disappointingly in light of its availability in overseas markets, stability control isn’t on the options list. But the Yaris has scored five stars in NCAP testing."

[static808]

HEY, i just wanted to point out to you guys that this has been out for a while, plus, the head injury criteron was not used in calculating the side impact star ratings which means that the side curtain airbags would not have improved the star rating any. The side airbags do come with lower torso side airbags, but they, according to nhtsa, generallly only decreased the serious injuries by about10% (note, not 10% of total crashes, but 10% of serious injuries) which means that side airbags would not really do anything to improve that score much at all.

guess the new iihs test kind of disproves that theory stated by the nhtsa. i'm telling you, all toyota needs to do to get more "5 star" ratings would be to bribe the govt officials a little more. i mean, from the iihs results, going from a "poor" rating to a "good" rating certainly doesnt sound like a 10 percent decrease in serious injury to me. that sounds like the difference between walking and having to eat through a plastic tube...

--B

[DorytheYaris]

It's kind of odd. You'd think they'd release these types of results for crash tests wayyy before now to let the general public know what they'd be buying. I don't have side airbags and now I wish I did....

[Marilyn2006]

Does anyone know if after market side airbags can be installed in my 07 Yaris? I had to buy in a hurry; my hand was injured and needed auto; got abs, but no side airbags. Toyota here in Santa Cruz is take what you can get attitude. Thanks.

[hystria]

Does anyone know if after market side airbags can be installed in my 07 Yaris? I had to buy in a hurry; my hand was injured and needed auto; got abs, but no side airbags. Toyota here in Santa Cruz is take what you can get attitude. Thanks.

if your model could be ordered with, yes you could. try calling your dealer :wink:

[corey415]

I doubt a dealer would be willing to take the liability of installing airbags. It would probably be easier and perhaps, even cheaper to simply sell your car and buy another Yaris that is equipped with side and side curtain airbags.

[Marilyn2006]

how could it be cheaper to buy another car and pay all those taxes and destination charges, along with depreciation?

[corey415]

First off, the dealer is unlikely to perform such work.

Second, even if they did, are you aware of how much dealerships charge for parts and especially labor? Air bags, in particular are very expensive parts you know.

If you sell your car privately, not back to the dealer, you wont lose that much either. Small cars are in demand in the Bay Area and South Bay.

[Yaris Revenge]

Saw this post @ clubsmartcar.com, thought you guys might be interested. the site only lets you look at it once before asking you to subscribe, but just clear your cookies out and you can go back to it.

Independent testing group ranks the Yaris at the bottom of the economy car crash test heap.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/16281330.htm

~YR

[static808]

Saw this post @ clubsmartcar.com, thought you guys might be interested. the site only lets you look at it once before asking you to subscribe, but just clear your cookies out and you can go back to it.

Independent testing group ranks the Yaris at the bottom of the economy car crash test heap.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/16281330.htm

~YR

those results were for the yaris without side airbags. the yaris equipped with side airbags placed second to the versa for overall safety, receiving a good rating for front and side impacts...

--B

[mutatio]

Saw this post @ clubsmartcar.com, thought you guys might be interested. the site only lets you look at it once before asking you to subscribe, but just clear your cookies out and you can go back to it.

Independent testing group ranks the Yaris at the bottom of the economy car crash test heap.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/16281330.htm

~YR


ugh! did u read the article? it's the same test that's been posted on. simply because it's in a local paper doesn't mean it's not based on a larger national test. don't do that to my heart! i was worried about my pending yaris purchase! :P

[BMGYaris]

guess the new iihs test kind of disproves that theory stated by the nhtsa. i'm telling you, all toyota needs to do to get more "5 star" ratings would be to bribe the govt officials a little more. i mean, from the iihs results, going from a "poor" rating to a "good" rating certainly doesnt sound like a 10 percent decrease in serious injury to me. that sounds like the difference between walking and having to eat through a plastic tube...

--B


YEA i have to agree. I am having a hard time finding a way for the numbers presented by the NHTSA and the dramataic changes in the iihs testing to line up. Like i said, the head injury criteron was not factored into the NHSTA side impact rating (imagine how bad the Scion XB would be rated if it had...lol, its pretty high) and the effectivness of torso airbags has been proven through testing and real life data to be of minimal effectiveness. It probably has something to do with the new IIHS testing procedures, where there might not be as much lower body damage done with a higher impact SUV penetration. Consequently the torso damage is drastically reduced and head damage drasticaly increased. thus the damage reported by NHTSA was removed (the lower body damage) and the head injuries were also prevented via airbags. Thus in the new IIHS testing procedures the yaris was able to score very well, where as in an impact with a smaller car causing lower body damage it would still perform only moderately, just as reorted by the NHTSA. ANYWAY, thats the only conclusion i can come up with.


Also, as to side airbag aftermarket availability. there are many companies that will install aftermarket side airbags, but there is alot of question as to their reliability...I mean, its not like you are going to get to test it out, and you may have only time when you need it--would suck for it not to come out and figure out you got ripped off as the grill of an SUV tears off your head.

Also, if you have ever played poker, you know that a 10% difference can be huge. Damn 10% suck outs, got to love them, but shit they hit 10% of the time, feels like 40% sometimes.
10% is a 1 out of every 10 people..thats alot of lives saved.

[mutatio]

well that, and when it comes to bodily injury, issues like traumatic brain injuries are picky things. 10% could absolutely mean the difference between literally being mentally disabled/retarded (worse case, having people spoon feed you and change your diapers for life) and being able to go back to your day to day. side airbags please!

[eTiMaGo]

No side airbags on mine... No driver's front one either since I changed the wheel (though I do wear a 4-point harness)...

That's it, I'm putting on a helmet every day.

[sewid]

I opted for the "safety pack" when I bought my 5door HB Yaris (Australia). This adds the side, curtain and knee airbags.

The dealer said it was a very uncommon option and thus it was more difficult to find a car in the country in my colour, style and options list. I only ended up waiting a week but they originally said it could take up to 3 months.

Anyway the point of my post is that if a car does not come from the factory with the airbags it cannot be installed at a dealer. This is what Toyota said to me. So I opted to wait for the factory.

[static808]

YEA i have to agree. I am having a hard time finding a way for the numbers presented by the NHTSA and the dramataic changes in the iihs testing to line up. Like i said, the head injury criteron was not factored into the NHSTA side impact rating (imagine how bad the Scion XB would be rated if it had...lol, its pretty high) and the effectivness of torso airbags has been proven through testing and real life data to be of minimal effectiveness. It probably has something to do with the new IIHS testing procedures, where there might not be as much lower body damage done with a higher impact SUV penetration. Consequently the torso damage is drastically reduced and head damage drasticaly increased. thus the damage reported by NHTSA was removed (the lower body damage) and the head injuries were also prevented via airbags. Thus in the new IIHS testing procedures the yaris was able to score very well, where as in an impact with a smaller car causing lower body damage it would still perform only moderately, just as reorted by the NHTSA. ANYWAY, thats the only conclusion i can come up with.


i agree as well. the iihs side impact involved a barrier that is more indicative of an SUV impact, so the bigger the barrier, the larger the area to displace the impact forces, meaning more force going to the head and a little taken away from the torso. the nhtsa test pretty much concentrates the impact force on the torso, so i agree that the yaris will test lower on the nhtsa and higher on the iihs. i live in the land of SUVs though (SoCal), so the iihs tests pertain more to me. very good comparsion of the tests BMG...

--B

[Galavoxx]

I did some serious research when purchasing my Yaris as I wanted to get the side curtain airbags. At the time, I was willing to have the car shipped from anywhere in the country. The problem was, of all dealers I called across the nation, none had a carw ith side curtains nor had they ever received one. So even though this is listed as a possible option, I think Toyota underestimated it's demand. They either didn't make many '07 models with this option or they made none. Personally, I think they made none considering my efforts to obtain one from at least 25 dealerships came up blank. I waited three months on many "waiting lists" and all I was ever offered was the winter package and ABS, neither of which I need. I ended up buying a car locally with a winter package but not the ABS. I would still love to have the curtains but so it goes... :iono:

[BMGYaris]

YOU must have been searching way before me. I heard rumors that the earliest distribution didnt contain many. At anyrate, I found two on a lot in my city, The i called Tenessee to consider going there for one with ABS that had them also, but that didnt happen--wish i had though, ive learned alot about ABS since and its def a valuable addition--though not as good as on other cars, just as the side airbags arent as good as on other cars. Anyway, there are def airbagged options out there, just look at me ;) side airbags.

[Galavoxx]

Damn! So they really do exist. :eyebulge: lol!!

[hystria]

I opted for the "safety pack" when I bought my 5door HB Yaris (Australia). This adds the side, curtain and knee airbags.


Let me guess: you Australian people are much fragile and more prone to head injuries than North Americans, in a side crash :laugh:

Here in Canada only the sedan has optional side airbags. What's the problem with the Hb ? Take off the rear panels in a 2 doors hatchback and look inside the wall: there is ONLY the exterior sheet of metal to protect the rear passengers :help:

[sewid]

Let me guess: you Australian people are much fragile and more prone to head injuries than North Americans, in a side crash :laugh:

Here in Canada only the sedan has optional side airbags. What's the problem with the Hb ? Take off the rear panels in a 2 doors hatchback and look inside the wall: there is ONLY the exterior sheet of metal to protect the rear passengers :help:

Don't know why but yeah. Kinda weird how differently toyota have specced the Yaris in each region.

In my Yaris the rear seats have their own curtain airbags situated in the C-pillar.

We also got other weird items I haven't seen in other regions like an electronic guage cluster with a big digital speedo and electronic tacho kinda like the old Soarer/Lexus SC300/SC400s.

[hystria]

Take a look at this more complete video, judge by yourself

1- the airbag seems to offer no protection to the driver's head, as the head would hit the steering wheel
2- with side curtain airbag versus without it

http://www.car.com/content/research/channels/index.cfm/channel/cartv_video/action/showvideo/vid/cr_0089/make/Toyota/vcat/Review/MAKE_VCH/Toyota/MODEL_VCH/Yaris

You might want to compare to the Fit crash test:
http://www.car.com/content/research/channels/index.cfm/channel/cartv_video/action/showvideo/vid/cr_0090/make/Honda/vcat/Review/MAKE_VCH/Honda/MODEL_VCH/Fit