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jdium
07-01-2007, 04:21 AM
While I wouldn't qualify mine as bad orange peel, it's not the best paint I've ever seen. This burns me cuz I got the Blazing Blue just for the color... I'll have some pics soon, but was wondering if I'm the only one, or if my standards are set too high?

brickhardmeat
07-01-2007, 08:02 AM
While I wouldn't qualify mine as bad orange peel, it's not the best paint I've ever seen. This burns me cuz I got the Blazing Blue just for the color... I'll have some pics soon, but was wondering if I'm the only one, or if my standards are set too high?


what is orange peel paint?

blacksan
07-01-2007, 08:56 AM
[QUOTE=brickhardmeat;105048]what is orange peel paint?[/QUOTE

The search feature at popular sites like Google is a good place for info.:laughabove:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_peel_(paint)

Sorry, I had to do that!:biggrin:

Edd
07-01-2007, 09:51 AM
Where abouts on your car is the orange peel? Some people have complained about bumps on the undersides, but apparently that's normal.

jdium
07-01-2007, 01:13 PM
Where abouts on your car is the orange peel? Some people have complained about bumps on the undersides, but apparently that's normal.

I notice it most on the fenders and quarter panels. Once my camera comes back from a weekend trip, I'll get some pictures...

brickhardmeat
07-01-2007, 01:33 PM
Orange peel is a certain kind of texture that may develop on painted surfaces.

Gloss paint sprayed on a smooth surface (such as the body of a car) should also dry into a smooth surface. However, various factors can cause it to dry into a bumpy surface resembling the texture of an orange peel. The orange peel phenomenon can then be smoothed out with ultra-fine sandpaper, but it can be prevented altogether by changing the painting technique or the materials used. Orange peel is typically the result of improper painting technique, and is caused by the quick evaporation of thinner, incorrect spray gun setup (e.g., low air pressure or incorrect nozzle), spraying the paint at an angle other than perpendicular, or applying excessive paint.

In some situations, such as interior house paint, the orange peel texture is desirable. In this case, a texture paint is generally applied with a spray gun. The texture is then painted over with the appropriate color.


....hum, interesting, no can't say that I have this problem but I gave my car a good once over before I bought it:biggrin:

staticorex
07-01-2007, 01:35 PM
I have that on the bottom of both side sills. Not a big deal cause it's out of sight. But I always wondered what it was. :)

brickhardmeat
07-01-2007, 01:42 PM
I have that on the bottom of both side sills. Not a big deal cause it's out of sight. But I always wondered what it was. :)


It is supposed to be textured like that to prevent chips. This is a very common automobile thing. This has also been discussed previously.

staticorex
07-01-2007, 02:13 PM
Ah. okay. Well I wasn't complaining but nice to know. :)

jdium
07-01-2007, 03:02 PM
....hum, interesting, no can't say that I have this problem but I gave my car a good once over before I bought it:biggrin:

Guess that makes you better than me eh? :smile:

brickhardmeat
07-01-2007, 03:53 PM
Guess that makes you better than me eh? :smile:

hey, you can look at it any way you want

I prefer looking at the world through rose colored glasses, NOT

jdium
07-01-2007, 04:17 PM
hey, you can look at it any way you want

I prefer looking at the world through rose colored glasses, NOT

Whoa, the "NOT" rejounder...taking me back to 92 :biggrin:

After just studying the paint closer, I think that a light wet sand/buff will make it look great. Just gonna take some effort on my part...

brickhardmeat
07-01-2007, 04:38 PM
Whoa, the "NOT" rejounder...taking me back to 92 :biggrin:

After just studying the paint closer, I think that a light wet sand/buff will make it look great. Just gonna take some effort on my part...

just be careful, you don't want to end up with flaking clear coat

can you post some pics of the problem?

jdium
07-01-2007, 05:12 PM
just be careful, you don't want to end up with flaking clear coat

can you post some pics of the problem?

My camera is on vacation with my girlfriend for the weekend...I'll get some up next weekend...

Edd
07-01-2007, 07:22 PM
Don't you guys get a 3 year warranty on paint or something. Don't just grab some wet and dry and rip your clearcoat off.

slvryaris
07-01-2007, 08:00 PM
Mines pretty clear

churp
07-01-2007, 10:51 PM
Orange peel (compared to show car finish) is on most production cars, only in varying degrees. Probably pretty hard to convince a dealer to do much unless it's very bad. And carefull with the wet sanding, the paint/clearcoat on the Yaris may not be real thick.

Razr
07-02-2007, 09:22 AM
As the Yaris doesn't have any chip-resistant paint around the lower bumpers or sills (as some cars do), there actually shouldn't be any orange peel. There is though, because this is a cheap car, and there's no way Toyota are aiming for a showcar paintjob at the price point.

I haven't looked at the wikipedia links, so I could be repeating something you've just read, but orange peel is generally a result of applying too little paint.

Given the number of threads from North American Yarii owners complaining about paint quality, if your only complaint is a little orange peel you might just have a gem :)

I have to say that the paint quality on my Thai Yaris is above expectations at the price point - I know if I have an accident the repair work will look better, but as it is it's still well above "acceptable".

reznunt
07-02-2007, 01:47 PM
worst factory orange peel i've ever seen on a car. i didn't even have to wet sand my spoiler and it matches perfect! lol

petesimac
07-02-2007, 07:05 PM
I don't think you're right Rzor, the "orange peel" on the extreme lower edge of the right and left-hand side of the car is definitively there on purpose and, in my opinion, is there not because it's an inexpensive car, but because it is supposed to help prevent paint damage. Now, if the same condition appeared on the hood, well then, I think you would be right.

Razr
07-07-2007, 09:21 PM
Well, I am right but maybe so are you :)

The Thai version does not have chip resistant paint anywhere, but I think it's fairly obvious that North American Yarii have different paintjobs given the amount of issues/lack of quality you guys are reporting here.

brickhardmeat
07-07-2007, 10:55 PM
Well, I am right but maybe so are you :)

The Thai version does not have chip resistant paint anywhere, but I think it's fairly obvious that North American Yarii have different paintjobs given the amount of issues/lack of quality you guys are reporting here.


I have no complaints.

Your car was made in Japan too right? Your textured area is covered by sideskirts. Car looks great I might add.

Razr
07-12-2007, 09:13 AM
I have no complaints.

Your car was made in Japan too right? Your textured area is covered by sideskirts. Car looks great I might add.


Mine was made right here in the Detroit of South East Asia :) That's Thailand BTW :wink:

There's definately no chip resistant paint under the lips on mine - I know this because the wife-unit ripped off the front lip (and half the frak'n bumper) a couple of weeks ago while reversing :eek:

Who knows though - could be badge-related too seeing as the lips on my model are stock affair.

ChinoCharles
07-12-2007, 09:26 AM
Lets start inundating Toyota Motor Sales USA with e-mails asking for a custom paint credit! :laugh:

I believe the reason for the textured paint on the bottom edge of either door is a functional one. It has something to do with ease of cleaning. This was discussed on this forum long long ago. I'm not defending the paint on these cars at all, though. Mine is totally shot, you guys know that.

brickhardmeat
07-12-2007, 10:11 AM
yes, the texture was discussed previously and it was also on my VW Golf, exactly the same, guess they don't need it in Thailand

I found a scratch on my bumper and luckily Scratch X made it go away but I have yet to chip my front, so far pretty lucky, maybe your hard winters tore your ass chino

I'l send them an e-mail anyway

drifto
07-13-2007, 12:54 AM
i believe its usually only sold in the snow belt regions. to prevent future rust and salt damage. being near the front and rear wheel well areas. thats what ive heard. to be honest i thing its a 3m clear cover thats put on. there is no way the paint can be incorrectly applied in a exact shape on either side of the car. :P

drecian
08-05-2007, 05:43 AM
The orange peel in the paint is from the painting processes at the factory and is pretty normal due to 'rushing' everything nowdays and pretty much all new cars with the exception of luxury/exotics with have paint that isn't 'glass smooth'.

Meteorite Man
08-05-2007, 09:23 AM
i believe its usually only sold in the snow belt regions. to prevent future rust and salt damage. being near the front and rear wheel well areas. thats what ive heard. to be honest i thing its a 3m clear cover thats put on. there is no way the paint can be incorrectly applied in a exact shape on either side of the car. :P

there is no way the paint can be incorrectly applied in a exact shape on either side of the car. :P

Huh?

http://www.chemicar.com/tekton_gravel.php

It's been done for years on all types of vehicles from inexpensive to expensive. I've had it on most of the vehicles I've owned. I've even had it applied on an older truck I restored. It's a process called Shutzing or Schutz....I'm sure a body person here can correct that.

It's safe to say that there is more than one manufactuer and that the above is not the only kind.

Vanderkitten
08-05-2007, 06:07 PM
Are we STILL talking about this?! Christ... is this everyone's first car who complains of the rubberized rocker coating that is painted over and looks like "orange peel" but it there to protect the body form stone chips which result in rust. You know that every car has this? Even my 2005 Xterra, our 2006 Volvo, my 2004 GLI (but it was covered by side skirts).

It's definitely more noticeable on some cars than others, and yes there could be overspray that got somewhere else, but...:needpics:

Vanderkitten
08-05-2007, 06:21 PM
See if this helps...

Meteorite Man
08-05-2007, 09:00 PM
Are we STILL talking about this?! Christ... is this everyone's first car who complains of the rubberized rocker coating that is painted over and looks like "orange peel" but it there to protect the body form stone chips which result in rust. You know that every car has this? Even my 2005 Xterra, our 2006 Volvo, my 2004 GLI (but it was covered by side skirts).

It's definitely more noticeable on some cars than others, and yes there could be overspray that got somewhere else, but...:needpics:


7015 Enough said...Thank you VanderKitten.