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Thirty-Nine
07-06-2007, 08:15 PM
Okay, so I'm looking into buying a Yaris liftback. I've got a set of 16x7 wheels with a +35 offset. I plan on lowering, too. Will this rub?

Are there any guidelines as far as wheel offests go for the Yaris? I thought I read you want something greater than +38. Any truth to this?

Astroman
07-06-2007, 08:19 PM
Congrats on deciding to purchase a Yaris! I have to ask, did my appearance at the June 2nd Scion cruise help in the deciding factor? :biggrin: Sorry though about offset, not sure what and what isn't ok.

brickhardmeat
07-06-2007, 08:55 PM
+40 or more is your best bet, how low do you want to go?

what tires are you wanting to run?

probably with 195/40/16 you wo'nt have any worries but then again +35 is going to poke abit and this has been a topic of discussion in recent days

nothing wrong with a little rubbing, you can always roll your fenders too and maybe some neg. camber

Thirty-Nine
07-07-2007, 02:11 AM
Congrats on deciding to purchase a Yaris! I have to ask, did my appearance at the June 2nd Scion cruise help in the deciding factor? :biggrin: Sorry though about offset, not sure what and what isn't ok.

Well, I haven't decided 100% yet, but it may happen! Your Yaris really did look good, and I have liked them for quite a while. We'll see.

+40 or more is your best bet, how low do you want to go?

what tires are you wanting to run?

probably with 195/40/16 you wo'nt have any worries but then again +35 is going to poke abit and this has been a topic of discussion in recent days

nothing wrong with a little rubbing, you can always roll your fenders too and maybe some neg. camber

How low? Probably about 2". I'd probably run a 205/50/16 to keep the speedo correct. I don't want to roll the fenders or do neg camber. So, I'll look for +40 wheels when the time comes.

reznunt
07-07-2007, 03:04 AM
I'm running 40 offset on 15" wheels and 205-50's on about a 2.5" drop and I get light rubbing under severe driving conditions. for a 16" or 17" wheel, i would suggest an even milder offset, closer to mid-40's depending on the tire profile.

brickhardmeat
07-07-2007, 03:10 AM
I'm running 40 offset on 15" wheels and 205-50's on about a 2.5" drop and I get light rubbing under severe driving conditions. for a 16" or 17" wheel, i would suggest an even milder offset, closer to mid-40's depending on the tire profile.

agreed and this is why with the same set up as yours I think I'll end up with some camber bolts and go neg. camber

I'll consider rolling my fenders too but I don't think it is crucial with 205/50/15, I'm not too worried about minor rub

brickhardmeat
07-07-2007, 03:11 AM
Well, I haven't decided 100% yet, but it may happen! Your Yaris really did look good, and I have liked them for quite a while. We'll see.



How low? Probably about 2". I'd probably run a 205/50/16 to keep the speedo correct. I don't want to roll the fenders or do neg camber. So, I'll look for +40 wheels when the time comes.


talk to largeandinfront

Thirty-Nine
07-07-2007, 03:33 AM
Hmmm ... I did a search for that username and nothing came up ...

ROCKLAND TOYOTA
07-07-2007, 08:58 AM
im also looking into 16's with a big offset but i need someone to tell me exactly what i need to get....

brickhardmeat
07-07-2007, 09:59 AM
sorry about that, largeorangefront is his user name, I butchered that one and I don't think that was the first time I called him that, ha ha

if you roll and pull these fenders you will be fine, it's up to you if you want to do that much modifying or just go with a safer offset really

brickhardmeat
07-07-2007, 10:02 AM
I'm running 40 offset on 15" wheels and 205-50's on about a 2.5" drop and I get light rubbing under severe driving conditions. for a 16" or 17" wheel, i would suggest an even milder offset, closer to mid-40's depending on the tire profile.


have you thought about adding camber bolts, someone was talking about doing this and I think it may work since them rubbing is on the outer, I actually think visually neg. camber looks cool, I'm still doing some research

Thirty-Nine
07-08-2007, 03:01 AM
After doing some more research, it appears the OEM offset is +45, so I can see why my 16" rimd with +35 on 205/50/16 would rub. However, a 16x7 +45 would probably be okay with a 205/50/16, right or would I still have rubbing issues?

brickhardmeat
07-08-2007, 04:17 AM
After doing some more research, it appears the OEM offset is +45, so I can see why my 16" rimd with +35 on 205/50/16 would rub. However, a 16x7 +45 would probably be okay with a 205/50/16, right or would I still have rubbing issues?


with a full 2 inch drop you may have some rubbing but I think you should be pretty much ok, best if you went say 195/45/16 or so, talk to some guys with lowered cars on 16 wheels, I believe largeorangefront is 1.7 drop with
+40 and 205/50/16 and walter was running 16's with little sidewall and more than a two inch drop

kimona
07-08-2007, 08:33 AM
After doing some more research, it appears the OEM offset is +45, so I can see why my 16" rimd with +35 on 205/50/16 would rub. However, a 16x7 +45 would probably be okay with a 205/50/16, right or would I still have rubbing issues?

This is the info I have about OEM rim and tire sizes:

OEM 15x5.5, ET45, 185/60/15

OEM 16x6, ET51, 195/50/16

OEM 17x6.5, ET51, 205/45/17

Thirty-Nine
07-08-2007, 12:59 PM
Awesome -- thanks!

Black Yaris
07-09-2007, 02:25 AM
This is the info I have about OEM rim and tire sizes:

OEM 15x5.5, ET45, 185/60/15

OEM 16x6, ET51, 195/50/16

OEM 17x6.5, ET51, 205/45/17

OEM with 15x5.5 is +38 not +45

kimona
07-09-2007, 08:24 AM
OEM with 15x5.5 is +38 not +45

Ahh, can you verify that info please?

I got the specs from Toyota in Japan.

Can someone out there look on the back of their 15" OEM alloys and check the stamp?

Thanks!

Thirty-Nine
07-09-2007, 02:29 PM
I know my xB steel wheel's offset is +38 (15x6).

reznunt
07-09-2007, 03:23 PM
have you thought about adding camber bolts, someone was talking about doing this and I think it may work since them rubbing is on the outer, I actually think visually neg. camber looks cool, I'm still doing some research

since it's not a track car, the really minor rubbing on the splash guards isn't a problem for me. i've had this type of rubbing, and alot worse, in many different cars so i'm used to it. if i wanted to put her on the track, i'd raise up the height and/or remove the splash guards anyway. i'd have to say no to the camber bolts to try and save as much tire as i can. but they would definitely work for you.

brickhardmeat
07-09-2007, 03:26 PM
since it's not a track car, the really minor rubbing on the splash guards isn't a problem for me. i've had this type of rubbing, and alot worse, in many different cars so i'm used to it. if i wanted to put her on the track, i'd raise up the height and/or remove the splash guards anyway. i'd have to say no to the camber bolts to try and save as much tire as i can. but they would definitely work for you.


no camber bolts for me either now that I have the basics installed , I'm not concerned with rubbing:thumbsup:

ya_RS
07-10-2007, 06:39 PM
This is the info I have about OEM rim and tire sizes:

OEM 15x5.5, ET45, 185/60/15 or +38

OEM 16x6, ET51, 195/50/16

OEM 17x6.5, ET51, 205/45/17




I also assume that these are in stock height? now will lowering with the TRD springs 30 mm front and 30mm rear effect this?

brickhardmeat
07-10-2007, 07:37 PM
I also assume that these are in stock height? now will lowering with the TRD springs 30 mm front and 30mm rear effect this?


most aftermarket wheels are going to be 7 inches wide and that changes things a bit even with the same offset, also tire width and profile and how low you go, all things would have to factored in, I think lowering on TRD springs with any offset within reason should be fine up to a 16 inch wheel, you are still going to have quite a gap there