diy for steering wheel change

[aucorium]

has anybody changed a steering wheel on a yaris yet? if so , i wanna put on a momo , but im looking for a DIY? any help would be greatly appreciated!:headbang:

[kimona]

What about the airbag?

[Kaeon]

What about the airbag?

Apparently he doesn't like the way his face looks now, no air bag = a free make over :w00t:

[BailOut]

You two are aware that all you have to do to disable the airbag is disconnect the negative battery cable, right?

[brickhardmeat]

has anybody changed a steering wheel on a yaris yet? if so , i wanna put on a momo , but im looking for a DIY? any help would be greatly appreciated!:headbang:

I think etimago has a momo.

[joey1320]

you will have to disconnect the battery. remove the airbag and the steering wheel. you'll need an adapter of some sort to install the aftermarket steering wheel.

thats it pretty much. and i'll rather not have an airbag on my car. i have seen what they can do and i'll take my chances with the seatbelt on. planing on removing my stock wheel and going with a momo also, great quality.

[Meteorite Man]

You two are aware that all you have to do to disable the airbag is disconnect the negative battery cable, right?

That applies to maintenance, not driving around "knowing" the airbag won't deploy because you disconnected the negative cable.

And when the car dies 'cause the battery is not hooked up there is not much of a chance of a frontal collision while parked on the side of the road.

I thought there was a "loop" that controlled the ignition/operation of the car. When the bag does deploy, the car will not operate. The bag sensor has to complete this electrical "loop" to tell the car it's ok to operate. I'm thinking someone who is better versed in this will step forward. The aftermarket kit must have an "override" part/device that will continue this "loop".

I'll wait for the expert, should be here at anytime....always is.

Chuck

[punch]

and you will get the airbag warning light, without it...

also good luck, if you happen to get in an accident and the airbag is missing, not much luck suing for face repairs.

[punch]

. i have seen what they can do and i'll take my chances with the seatbelt on..

please provide some links, I'd like to read up on this claim of yours... I have seen what they can do also, and thats save your head...

[drifto]

lol i have to agree with not having an air bag. i hate to say it but most times your face is hurt more with the bag than without. that bag deploys in milliseconds and ive seen a few friends including myself get facial burns due to it. just wear your seatbelt thats all. so whatever not to get off topic... they sell adapters that keep the srs drivers airbag circuit shorted (simulates there being an airbag present) just search sites that carry hubs and steering wheels, easy to find. and its pretty difficult to blow-up an airbag installing a st.wheel. unless your applying voltage to it, which if you are your insane. :smile: some details may be off but most cars are the same.
1.disconnect the neg. battery cable and wait for 2min. straighten wheel so it is at 12 o'clock
2. unplug the srs connector at the bottom of the steering wheel. it is yellow
3. there should be 2 torx bolts one on each side of airbag, remove them.
4. pull off airbag.
5. remove wires for horn .
6. mark steering shaft and hub for alignment for later when putting in new wheel. remove steering hub bolt, usually 17 or 19mm
7. use a pull hammer to remove wheel, but if not available with 2 hands pull wheel towards yourself, might have to rock back and forth a little . it might be tough, so be carefull not to smack yourself in the face with it when it pops off :biggrin: its not that bad really, anyone here can do it. the most important part it making sure the new wheel is aligned properly.

[kimona]

I wonder what your insurance company will think if they become aware that you have disabled or worse removed the airbag. And, will they cover you in case of an accident.

Somehow, I think you could be in for a mess of trouble.

Sorry, but what's up with some of you guys... wanting to disable DRL's and airbags?!

[brickhardmeat]

I wonder what your insurance company will think if they become aware that you have disabled or worse removed the airbag. And, will they cover you in case of an accident.

Somehow, I think you could be in for a mess of trouble.

Sorry, but what's up with some of you guys... wanting to disable DRL's and airbags?!

I just think you wouldn't get the air bag discount.:laugh: :rolleyes:

Airbags are for sissies.:clap: :drinking:

[kimona]

Actually, I don't think there is any insurance discount for the driver's side airbag. Front airbags are required standard equipment in all later model cars and are assumed present and fully functional by insurance companies.

Try telling your insurance company you have removed the steering wheel airbag and installed an aftermarket steering wheel.

Good luck!

[Meteorite Man]

I think I'd take the burn....1st degree, hell I get that trying to pull my fishsticks out of the oven. Unless you can tell me you're an emergency responder, I'll believe what I think is a good idea.

I'm in no means discouraging the mod. Sounds pretty unique. I thought the steering wheel mod went out with the popularity of the airbag. Everyone does what they feel they want to or need to. I just don't see where there is a pro/con debate for airbags.


I think one time you do not want the airbag to go off is if you are smoking a pipe. :laugh: I don't mean the kind "some" of you use recreationally, the kind dear old grandad used to puff away on. That would be a bad day.

Chuck

[jdium]

My girlfriend is a Paramedic. After hearing her opinion on airbags just now, I'll never remove mine. She says she's seen light burns, but mostly on the inner arms of the arm holding the steering wheel. Being that she never talks about what she sees at work, I was shocked in how she reacted when I told her people think airbags are more dangerous than not having one. She summed it up with my type of statement, look at it like population control. Only the stupid people will be harmed...

Has anyone actually LOOKED at their Yaris, especially the LB? There is only inches of car in front of the driver...I'll take my chances with my 6 airbags or whatever the LB has...

Aftermarket wheels look great, but they belong on the track or at the show, that's my opinion.

[eTiMaGo]

Another option is a TRD steering wheel with airbag, I think it was stock from the Supra, looks pretty good.

I indeed have a Momo steering wheel, and indeed the airbag warning light stays on at all times. But I do wear my seatbelt at all times (I'm kinda anal about that)...

[brickhardmeat]

yeah, I snap mine in as soon as I get in the car

you know there was a time when there was no such thing as an air bag. the one in my vw malfuctioned and the light stayed on, the shop told me it would not deploy in that state and they wanted to maintenance it, I drove like that for 3 years, traded it in like that

I guess I'm an idiot too.

[eTiMaGo]

heh... some people go skydiving, some dive with man-eating sharks, our extreme sport is driving without airbags :biggrin:

[njyaris]

anyone who has a aftermarket steering wheel post your pics here

[eTiMaGo]

old pic :wink:

[tk-421]

Damn that Momo wheel looks hot. :evil:

[derrick452]

I'll take my chances with my 6 airbags or whatever the LB has.

Just so you know, unless you paid the extra $650 for the side and side curtain air bags, your Yaris only has 2 bags for the driver and passenger. Its a very rare option. I did a search and in our network of 42 dealerships, we had only 1 car with that option. Congrats if you got one of the safe ones! Hard to come by.

[brickhardmeat]

old pic :wink:

ok off topic question...

the seats and door panels that you have pictured are a factory option there or are these covers, if covers look like that I ight get some but this looks OE, do tell?

[joey1320]

please provide some links, I'd like to read up on this claim of yours... I have seen what they can do also, and thats save your head...

sorry man i don't have any links to back up my claim but i have friends who have had accidents with and without the airbags on their cars and the ones with the airbags ende worse than the ones without.:confused:

maybe just crazy luck, but i really don't care, i'm going aftermarket anyways.

[yrsdrgn]

well for those who go aftermarket please share a link of which steering wheel hub adapter you bought and/or the quick release hub if you purchased it also. I already spoke to Etimago about this and a shop he went to dropped the parts in for him so yea.

[jdium]

yeah, I snap mine in as soon as I get in the car

you know there was a time when there was no such thing as an air bag. the one in my vw malfuctioned and the light stayed on, the shop told me it would not deploy in that state and they wanted to maintenance it, I drove like that for 3 years, traded it in like that

I guess I'm an idiot too.

There was also a time when there was no such thing as a seat belt...As for your VW having electrical problems, that's no suprise...Why wouldn't you get it serviced?

As for you being an idiot...

[jdium]

Just so you know, unless you paid the extra $650 for the side and side curtain air bags, your Yaris only has 2 bags for the driver and passenger. Its a very rare option. I did a search and in our network of 42 dealerships, we had only 1 car with that option. Congrats if you got one of the safe ones! Hard to come by.

My car says it has driver, passenger dash bags, side bags that come out of the A pillar, and side bags that come out of the seat...is that right? Both cars I test drove had the same markings, so I didn't think it was that rare...

[brickhardmeat]

There was also a time when there was no such thing as a seat belt...As for your VW having electrical problems, that's no suprise...Why wouldn't you get it serviced?

As for you being an idiot...

because VW service dept. sucked I was unhappy with the car in general and I wasn't all that concerned personally, it passed inspection and I had no problems trading it in for my yaris

as far as your concern for others safety....
:bellyroll:

[RShatchback]

My car says it has driver, passenger dash bags, side bags that come out of the A pillar, and side bags that come out of the seat...is that right? Both cars I test drove had the same markings, so I didn't think it was that rare...

Just curious by what you mean by "my car says" Is it like knightrider? And it told you personally, Or is it listed in your owners manual - or on your window sticker, or written on the A pillar? Cause I remember seeing all the airbags in the brochure and then finding out that it wasnt standard equipment.

[churp]

IMO a good set of racing belts would more than make up for the lack of airbag.

[yrsdrgn]

does anyone have a link to a steering wheel hub adapter for our cars?......and how bout some quick release hubs to go with taht? =P

[jdium]

Just curious by what you mean by "my car says" Is it like knightrider? And it told you personally, Or is it listed in your owners manual - or on your window sticker, or written on the A pillar? Cause I remember seeing all the airbags in the brochure and then finding out that it wasnt standard equipment.

As in it says, it's written on the damn thing. On the seat, the A pillar, and the steering wheel...

I can take pics so you can see what I mean if you want...

As for my concern for others, see the comment about removing safety equipment being population control...:bellyroll:

[brickhardmeat]

As in it says, it's written on the damn thing. On the seat, the A pillar, and the steering wheel...

I can take pics so you can see what I mean if you want...

As for my concern for others, see the comment about removing safety equipment being population control...:bellyroll:

I didn't remove my safety equipment, try reading my comment

[03Z33]

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/2436000-2436999/2436283_33_full.jpg

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5758&d=1182054990

Nardi Steering Wheel
Works Bell "Shorty" hub
Works Bell Quick Release

Horn Still works
NO AIRBAG LIGHT (used resistor supplied with Works Bell hub)

Thomas, I think yours might need a different size resistor, let me know if you need help figuring it out, there is no reason why your airbag light should stay on.

I purchased all of the above from Works Bell USA, www.aspecproducts.com

[jdium]

I didn't remove my safety equipment, try reading my comment

I didn't say you removed your safety equipment. I said that I don't think that is a good idea. You ridiculed me because of my "concern for others safety". My opinion is that an aftermarket wheel looks good, but is not worth it due to the safety loss...understand?

[brickhardmeat]

I didn't say you removed your safety equipment. I said that I don't think that is a good idea. You ridiculed me because of my "concern for others safety". My opinion is that an aftermarket wheel looks good, but is not worth it due to the safety loss...understand?

your last concern is for -others- safety, you just like to come in here and crawl up people's ass every time you make a post

if you think that was ridicule then I think you should look up the definition of that word, I'm just stating the obvious

you're a shit starter and you have been from day one, guess we have to have a few of those

you even refer to yourself as Mr. Attitude:laughabove:

[dlinkwit27]

As in it says, it's written on the damn thing. On the seat, the A pillar, and the steering wheel...

I can take pics so you can see what I mean if you want...

As for my concern for others, see the comment about removing safety equipment being population control...:bellyroll:

If you are talking about the manual, it's full of shit. I read the same thing, and went to talk to my dealer to ask about it because i thought I could get a better deal on my insurance, and it turns out that the LB, even package B, does not come with side impact airbags. It only has the Driver and Passenger front impact airbags.

Also, for those worried about the force of the airbag deploying, and how they can be used for fun to jettison things into the air, you should rather worry if you do not. They deploy with such force in order to inflate in the milliseconds that exist before you come into contact with the steering wheel. It's effect is simple physics

Force = mass * acceleration
and
acceleration = change in velocity / change in time

it is easy to see then that by increasing the time it takes for your body to go from (let's say) 35 mph (~56 Kmh) you decrease the acceleration, which in turn, reduces the amount of force that your body experiences.

[03Z33]

Just hit up Francis or Logan at Aspec, they sell them for ~ $5 (same people you got the e-brake knob from) They can mail it to you on Monday.

(626) 618-1100

[yrsdrgn]

i'm sort of lost on the aspec site because every time i click on the hub adapters it says "coming soon"

[03Z33]

i'm sort of lost on the aspec site because every time i click on the hub adapters it says "coming soon"

Just give them a call on Monday. They don't always update the website but they usually have plenty of the Yaris hubs in stock (same as Scion/Corolla).

[jdium]

your last concern is for -others- safety, you just like to come in here and crawl up people's ass every time you make a post

if you think that was ridicule then I think you should look up the definition of that word, I'm just stating the obvious

you're a shit starter and you have been from day one, guess we have to have a few of those

you even refer to yourself as Mr. Attitude:laughabove:

Mr Attitude was given to me by Red Yaris, originally it said 'Everybody Wants to be Me' :biggrin:

If I'm crawling up your ass, you might need to clinch it tighter. I'm not intentionally doing it. I was responding to a couple posts from people that feel that an airbag is more dangerous than not having one. I have an inside perspective because my girlfriend it a paramedic who sees bad stuff daily, and she thinks airbags are lifesavers (not the candy). I'll believe her...

[jdium]

If you are talking about the manual, it's full of shit. I read the same thing, and went to talk to my dealer to ask about it because i thought I could get a better deal on my insurance, and it turns out that the LB, even package B, does not come with side impact airbags. It only has the Driver and Passenger front impact airbags.

Here's where I'm confused I guess. The options list says seat mounted side curtain airbags. My front seats have lil tags hanging off of them that say airbag equipped or something like that. But I didn't get the full safety package, no antilock or power options. Is that tag lying to me? Or is there a different safety feature set available in the North West?

[yrsdrgn]

Just give them a call on Monday. They don't always update the website but they usually have plenty of the Yaris hubs in stock (same as Scion/Corolla).

alright. how about the quick release? are those universal or is there one specific for the yaris? I'll probably call them up for a price quote

[03Z33]

Quick release is universal. They have two types of hubs, normal and short. The short is better fittment for me with the quick release and a 30mm dished steering wheel.

[yrsdrgn]

the short hub and quick release makes the steering colum longer than the stock length for the driver right? cuz i just want it to be a little closer to me when i'm driving so i dont have to shove my seat so close to it.

[PetersRedYaris]

What's the point of this mod again? Decreased looks, decreased safety, or just to spend money... :biggrin:

[yrsdrgn]

iono how it decreases the look of the car if you drop in racing seats and other stuff into it. decreased safety maybe but i doubt it...spend money....depends. that's just my opinion

[brickhardmeat]

What's the point of this mod again? Decreased looks, decreased safety, or just to spend money... :biggrin:

The steering wheel in this car has a cheaper feel than any other car I have ever driven. I ordered a wheelskins leather cover for mine. I hope it turns out looking a little nicer and feeling a bit better.

I'm really jealous of my friend's matrix the steering wheel is great in that car.

[yrsdrgn]

or you can go and get a steeringwheel hub adapter, a quick release and a steering wheel brickhardmeat. that'll make your matrix buddy jealous hehe...unless he laughs at you and the fact that you don't have an airbag

[brickhardmeat]

or you can go and get a steeringwheel hub adapter, a quick release and a steering wheel brickhardmeat. that'll make your matrix buddy jealous hehe...unless he laughs at you and the fact that you don't have an airbag


haha, I have looked at some really nice steering wheels and settled for the wheelskins for now to keep the airbags, I ordered it friday and it looks to be pretty nice, I hope it comes out looking "finished"

I ordered it friday so hopefully I get it and have it on soon, if I'm not pleased with the look and feel I'll probably go aftermarket:thumbup:

[yrsdrgn]

hehe then we'll wait for friday for your final decision =P

[aucorium]

how did u remove ur steering wheel?

[redyaris]

I wonder what your insurance company will think if they become aware that you have disabled or worse removed the airbag. And, will they cover you in case of an accident.

Somehow, I think you could be in for a mess of trouble.

Sorry, but what's up with some of you guys... wanting to disable DRL's and airbags?!

As hard as the headlight bulbs are to get to I quickly disabled my DRLs. They are not neccessary in my opinion. Just Toyota reacting to government overregulation. I dont need headlights on in broad daylight.

As for the airbag Im not touching it. Its the only protection you'll ever have in a frontal collision.

Here's the last Yaris owner that removed his airbag. Im not into this fashion statement.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sheppard/images/3420saminneckbrace.jpeg

[yrsdrgn]

That's why it's good for show cars. normal daily driven cars with aftermarket steering wheels must take caution but hey, it's a risk many are willing to take and that's why it's one of the last mods on my list.

[brickhardmeat]

hehe then we'll wait for friday for your final decision =P

gosh, finally got around to installing the wheelskins cover today, it looks good, I'd give it a thumbs up and it feels way better

someone with more patience than me could achieve a more balanced look but I did pretty good for a first time try, I have -0- patience and I was sweating balls, it's fuckin' hot

anyway I would reccomend this to anyone who doesn't want to lose the airbag:thumbsup:

[tk-421]

gosh, finally got around to installing the wheelskins cover today, it looks good, I'd give it a thumbs up and it feels way better

someone with more patience than me could achieve a more balanced look but I did pretty good for a first time try, I have -0- patience and I was sweating balls, it's fuckin' hot

anyway I would reccomend this to anyone who doesn't want to lose the airbag:thumbsup:

How about a pic of that installed? There doesn't seem to be one on their site...

[brickhardmeat]

go to yahoo and images, there should be a couple of shots, I got mine a little tight in some places so it isn't perfectly balanced but it still looks good, like I said I have no patience for this type of stuff

eventually, I will get some snap shots of my car up again but I have to get my photographer friend to help me out

several pics here...

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Dwheelskins%26fr2%3Dtab-web%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501&w=250&h=230&imgurl=www.storesonline.com%2Fmembers%2F564545%2Fu ploaded%2Fwheelskins-criscraft.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.storesonline.com%2Fsite%2F56 4545%2Fpage%2F144629&size=9.4kB&name=wheelskins-criscraft.jpg&p=wheelskins&type=jpeg&no=20&tt=2,759&oid=59d237643d59c9e2&ei=UTF-8

[CompanyXPaladin]

To those of you who don't like airbags: I got run off of a mountain road a few months ago in my first Yaris; ironically the felon was a tow-truck driver. He hit and ran, I rolled my Yaris 7 times and experienced numerous frontal collisions. Were it not for my airbag, I would be dead. The Yaris is a very small car, and there is very little space between the driver and the objects colliding with the car. I did in fact have mild burns all over my face, my eye-glasses were snapped in the middle, and I had a black eye, but I lived. Take it from one who knows from experience - keep the airbag.

[drifto]

if your a nervous or worried driver, keep the airbag. but if you do remove the bag just get a 5 point harness. simple as that :rolleyes:

[yrsdrgn]

but then wouldn't you need a seat belt harness holder thing? and that'll make it hard for people to sit in the back of the car right?

[CompanyXPaladin]

Thats one way of putting it. I'm a long ways from nervous or worried - I drive a highly modified 1988 Mazda RX-7 Convertible 13B-REW; I have driven it on numerous certified race tracks such as Buttonwillow, Famosa, Grand Prix of Long Beach, and Portland International Raceway. I'm a fairly experienced driver, and in my particular case, I simply got shoved off of the road, for which theres not much you can do to avoid it. That isn't a situation that anyone plans for, nor can they ever expect it. The airbag is there to be prepared for that kind of situation - it is there to save your life and it's good at it. A 5-point harness might help, but I would still have to advise - unless you have an overwhelming reason to disable or remove the airbag, keep it.

[hystria]

you will have to disconnect the battery. remove the airbag and the steering wheel. you'll need an adapter of some sort to install the aftermarket steering wheel.

thats it pretty much. and i'll rather not have an airbag on my car. i have seen what they can do and i'll take my chances with the seatbelt on. planing on removing my stock wheel and going with a momo also, great quality.

In this case, I'll strongly suggest replacing the stock seatbelt with a 5 points harness. Stock seatbelt is modified to work with the airbag. Take a look at crash test videos. The upper part of the body is NOT retained by the diagonal belt. The upper body always moves towards the steering wheel and impacts the airbag.

Some time ago, a guy in a civic had a frontal crash at 35mph. His honda civic had aftermaket steering wheel - no airbag. His girlfriend walked away, but the guy had thorax injuries - broken ribs - after hitting the steering wheel even though he was wearing the seatbelt. The car had only front damage.

No airbag = the head/thorax will 100% hit the steering wheel in a crash at 15mph or more. Take care :smile:

[yrsdrgn]

for the 5-point harness don't you need a bar that connects the b-pillars and is located right behind the driver and passenger seats? sorry I don't remember the name of that bar but I see it when people have bucket seats and aftermarket steering wheels and seatbelt harness. But if it's needed and you have more than one passenger that wants to ride it'll be hard for them to sit in the back right?

[Thai_Dang]

sorry man i don't have any links to back up my claim but i have friends who have had accidents with and without the airbags on their cars and the ones with the airbags ende worse than the ones without.:confused:

maybe just crazy luck, but i really don't care, i'm going aftermarket anyways.

Lol search youtube for toyota yaris crash test for the most obvious proof that airbags would save you. Looks like w/o airbags, your head would be skewered by the steering column. W/o side airbags, your head would leave the car cabin and smash into whatever's out there.

A common misconception about seatbelts are that they keep you bolted to the seat during an accident. Seatbelts are there only to slowly reduce your traveling energy, just like car crumple zones. Your body is still allowed to travel to extend the distance in which you're decelerating. If seatbelts were totally restraining, you'd suffer massive internal injuries imho. The driver side definitely needs an airbag, because the steering column is so close, lots of potential for skewering.

Keep your airbag please. If you mod, mod at your own risk, but don't advise others to disable things that would save their lives if they personally aren't modding.

[Berkut]

Try to use this kit - http://page14.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s183304535/
Then other airbags will be work.