View Full Version : ITB Kit to be released for Yaris!
Sabretooth
08-03-2007, 04:17 AM
I had sent an Email to the manager of Danstoy out of California, and I got this email in response, and I was very happy to read it!
"Dear Kyle,
We will be offering the kit as soon as as hopefully next year. The kit will consist of ITB's, Custom aluminum manifold, Velocity stacks, plug & play wiring harness and ECU. The kit will most likely cost around 2500.00-2800.00 We'll also be producing some dyno charts and numbers after we make the kit.
Please E-mail us if you have any other questions.
Thank you,
Jedi
Manager of Danstoy "
All I have to say, lets gett'r done!
ITB's for all..
I mean it might only be a +30hp for 2800$, but thats better than what the Blitz Compressor brings to the table(30hp for $3000, not to mention Emanage and more added expenses)
muffin_man
08-03-2007, 04:27 AM
I don't think you'll get 30hp out of it, but is way more awesome than the Blitz kit. And $2800 for an ITB kit w/ ECU is a pretty sweet deal.
RShatchback
08-03-2007, 05:10 AM
Didnt someone already produce an itb kit for the scion community for a similar price. And then no one purchased it? I remember seeing it posted here somewhere. Itb's are cool looking and everthing but i'd rather use that kind of money on a turbo kit.
RShatchback
08-03-2007, 05:17 AM
Here we go, i used the glorious search button and found what i was talking about... and its the same company.
If it didnt do so well in the scion crowd, i dont know how many yaris owners are going to be shelling out that kinda money...
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6268&highlight=itb
redyaris
08-03-2007, 09:29 AM
I'm supposed to pay someone named 'Jedi
Manager of Danstoy' nearly 3G? Nah.
Black Yaris
08-03-2007, 09:33 AM
I'm supposed to pay someone named 'Jedi
Manager of Danstoy' nearly 3G? Nah.
Finally something I agree with Red Yaris on!:eek:
come on.... be a little professional when respond to an iquiry on someone wanting to spent that amount of $
cdydjded
08-03-2007, 10:02 AM
$25-$2800 for a ITB that gives you 30hp or $3200 for a turbo kit that gives you 80+ hp. hmmm let me think........
Turbo&Auto
08-03-2007, 10:05 AM
30hp huh, good luck with that. MAYBE 15.......
Def would take the turbo route or motor swap instead....
Chris07LB
08-03-2007, 10:33 AM
Chino needs to see this...
Black Yaris
08-03-2007, 10:41 AM
30hp huh, good luck with that. MAYBE 15.......
Def would take the turbo route or motor swap instead....
I still think the 2zz-ge motor swap is the best $2500-3500 option, finding someone to have the balls to rip apart their new car will be another matter
ChinoCharles
08-03-2007, 10:52 AM
I see it. I knew about it already.
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=185898&start=0
That is the guy that is working on the kit. Search ITB at SL and you'll find his two threads.
I don't understand why you're all dogging this kit. I'd bet they can make 30 HP. They've been toying with this kit for over a year now, so they have a much better idea than we do about what it is capable of. Keep in mind this doesn't throw a CEL either. Name a turbo that does that.
You're afraid because he calls himself Jedi? Have you ever met a Star Wars fan? :laugh:
EDIT: NO SWAP FOR THIS CAR IS $3000. It ain't a Honda people!
Turbo&Auto
08-03-2007, 11:07 AM
I can get a 2zz for under that money and do the swap myself. I assue you it can be done for under 3K, and will be. I'm already working on the getting the engine but I wont be dropping it in for awhile yet, need to pack some miles on the stocker and get some of my money's worth out of that 100K warranty...
Chris07LB
08-03-2007, 11:07 AM
Aww, how cute.
You and "mark" have similar sig's....:laugh:
Black Yaris
08-03-2007, 11:09 AM
I see it. I knew about it already.
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=185898&start=0
That is the guy that is working on the kit. Search ITB at SL and you'll find his two threads.
I don't understand why you're all dogging this kit. I'd bet they can make 30 HP. They've been toying with this kit for over a year now, so they have a much better idea than we do about what it is capable of. Keep in mind this doesn't throw a CEL either. Name a turbo that does that.
You're afraid because he calls himself Jedi? Have you ever met a Star Wars fan? :laugh:
EDIT: NO SWAP FOR THIS CAR IS $3000. It ain't a Honda people!
If you buy a whole car from auction, and sell of all the extra parts you can have this swap under $3000, bet ya
Thirty-Nine
08-03-2007, 11:20 AM
$25-$2800 for a ITB that gives you 30hp or $3200 for a turbo kit that gives you 80+ hp. hmmm let me think........
You're not going to get 80 hp from a turbo kit without signifigant upgrades to internals. The 1NZ-FE doesn't have terribly strong rods (check Scionlife for people who've decided to push pas 5-7 psi).
I'm not saying it can't be done, but you can't just slap a turbo on there and expect 80 hp. That's around a 90% increase in wheel horsepower! :wink:
ChinoCharles
08-03-2007, 11:21 AM
Thats because "Mark" is a sig jacking bastard. :laugh:
The whole "why do this when you can swap an engine for 3 grand" argument is retarded. The ease of installation of a kit like this as compared to a full-on engine swap... night and day. I get this kit in the mail and its installed in a couple days. I don't even have to go to the dyno. Meanwhile your Yaris is down for the count for a month while you try to make sense of the conundrum you got yourself into.
39 is correct... sure, you can bolt on 80 HP, but you may as well drive directly to the junkyard to drop off your engine.
Black Yaris
08-03-2007, 11:32 AM
moi, not a sig jacker.... and a month down time is a bit far fetched, well maybe to the average Joe it may not be, but I have people, tools, and equipment to pull it off in a few days maybe a week, I just do not have the sac to rip to motor out, or try and justify it to my wife (you know how that would go Chino).... but you are correct on the ease of the ITB set up, I personally can not justify the expence of the ITB.... but that is me
Turbo&Auto
08-03-2007, 11:41 AM
But the amount of work isnt the issue, its the dollar to HP ratio we're talking about.
AND the Yaris S Turbo, with an auto, I saw on youtube made 175whp, thats definately a 90% increase....PROVEN.....
Black Yaris
08-03-2007, 11:45 AM
But the amount of work isnt the issue, its the dollar to HP ratio we're talking about.
AND the Yaris S Turbo, with an auto, I saw on youtube made 175whp, thats definately a 90% increase....PROVEN.....
ok on the same though.... 2zz-ge 180hp out of the box, fact..... you can easily get that # over 200 at the wheels with a few bolt ons plus that has a 6 speed manual trans mounted up to it
Turbo&Auto
08-03-2007, 12:35 PM
No you certainly can NOT. Without internal work to the engine NO ONE has broke the 200whp mark. 190ish is the highest and thats with a hydra and all.
The Lotus version supposedly is more stout and will make over 200whp. I'm seriously considering a 3zz hybrid though....240ish whp
Nutzoids
08-03-2007, 12:44 PM
Chino... Haven’t we beat this topic to the ground already?
And am I missing something here? because no one brought this up...In the email he said a new ECU... has someone figured out to manipulate this ECU?
Last time I checked our biggest Power Bottle Neck is the ECU... and with such a Large bottle Neck… Putting that much power to the car is Useless… and to date I have not heard of any ECU upgrades... But does Danstoy know something we don't?
Here is an email I got a While Back!
From:DansToyRacing@aol.com
[Add to Address Book]
To:SGUTI@comcast.net
Subject:Yaris 2007 ITB Pricing
Date:Wednesday, April 25, 2007 3:20:33 PM
Dear customer,
attached is the estimate for the ITB's for the Yaris. E-mail us if you have any other questions.
Thank you,
Hey Moderators... Can we make a "Sticky" about different Speed Options... Price, Pros, Cons, Level of experience needed and Opinions
I am tired of re-living all this “News”
:evil:
ChinoCharles
08-03-2007, 12:53 PM
That is what we do here Steve... beat topics into the ground. :laugh:
The reason for the newfound excitement is they're now touting this as a pretuned, plug and play kit. Bolt it on, wire it up and go. Sounds nice, doesn't it?
Nutzoids
08-03-2007, 12:58 PM
Sounds Real Good...
If the Whole Kit, ECU and everything is going to be under $3000 I will buy one Instantly... It will be the best deal going!
No Codes? New ECU? 30+ HP? under $3000... Sounds way to nice!
Plus 30HP on a 2000LBS car is a lot more then most people think... Oh yeah... I almost forgot... Almost Instant Power... No Spooling Required!
:evil:
ChinoCharles
08-03-2007, 12:58 PM
Plus the sound of ITB's. Yum.
Nutzoids
08-03-2007, 01:03 PM
Seriously what's up with that NEW ECU?
"Dear Kyle,
We will be offering the kit as soon as as hopefully next year. The kit will consist of ITB's, Custom aluminum manifold, Velocity stacks, plug & play wiring harness and ECU. The kit will most likely cost around 2500.00-2800.00 We'll also be producing some dyno charts and numbers after we make the kit.
Please E-mail us if you have any other questions.
Thank you,
:evil:
acdaazn
08-03-2007, 01:06 PM
I'm supposed to pay someone named 'Jedi
Manager of Danstoy' nearly 3G? Nah.
What if it's not Jedi as in Star Wars, but Jedi in spanish pronounciation, like "Hedi"?
Turbo&Auto
08-03-2007, 01:20 PM
first off, excellent avatar nutziods!! avatar of the year IMO!!!
These ITB's are NOT going to add 30hp, that was someone's wishful thinking. With I/H/E, ITB's and tuning you might get near that but I wouldnt bank on it. This motor is too small and wimpy.....
ALSO, I'm saying crank hp, whp prolly around 15-20 for everything listed above.
Lets assume the car makes 92.5whp, thats taking into account 12% drivetrain loss and I'm being nice there. Then you add I'll even give it 25whp, you're still a 2K lbs car with under 125whp. Just not going to be an animal.....
Nutzoids
08-03-2007, 01:22 PM
I still can't wait to find out... And I will be keeping my fingers crossed!
10HP/$1000 is the lowest I can ratio I can do!
:evil:
Chris07LB
08-03-2007, 01:55 PM
NUTZ - you will be banned from this forum if I do not recieve a full version of this avatar at once!! :drool:
reznunt
08-03-2007, 02:02 PM
I can get a 2zz for under that money and do the swap myself. I assue you it can be done for under 3K, and will be. I'm already working on the getting the engine but I wont be dropping it in for awhile yet, need to pack some miles on the stocker and get some of my money's worth out of that 100K warranty...
$3k? can you tell me where you plan on getting the parts (motor, tranny, ecu, cluster, etc.) please thanks. also, how many hours do you estimate it will take you to cut the firewall, fab engine mounts, and do all the wiring?
i'm planning on doing this too but when i do the math, i end up at over $5k and assloads of down time.
DoriKnights
08-03-2007, 03:30 PM
$3k? can you tell me where you plan on getting the parts (motor, tranny, ecu, cluster, etc.) please thanks. also, how many hours do you estimate it will take you to cut the firewall, fab engine mounts, and do all the wiring?
i'm planning on doing this too but when i do the math, i end up at over $5k and assloads of down time.
+1 PM me..
..
how can some one compare a turbo kit to ITB's LOL.. fuck dude its not all about hp #'s its also about response.. being the size the 1n engine is i would take the itb over due the the dramatic response it must increase..but thats just me..
Turbo&Auto
08-03-2007, 03:36 PM
That makes no sense.
When you turbo it, it will bring the whole tq curve up and flatten it out a lot. This alone will make the car more responsive and pull like hell off the line.
Turbo FTW, there's no contest.....
what does the ITB sound like?
DoriKnights
08-03-2007, 03:56 PM
That makes no sense.
When you turbo it, it will bring the whole tq curve up and flatten it out a lot. This alone will make the car more responsive and pull like hell off the line.
Turbo FTW, there's no contest.....
i take it you have never done touge..?
turbo is kick ass! dont get me wrong
but the engine being so weak in tourqe
i just think there would be too much lag
and not like you can get this big ass boom out of a little engine with a little turbo.. unless internaly built to take that abuse.. but lets face it.. not too many people are gona do that..
its all preference..
DoriKnights
08-03-2007, 04:08 PM
$25-$2800 for a ITB that gives you 30hp or $3200 for a turbo kit that gives you 80+ hp. hmmm let me think........
i definatley see your point! is the bang for the buck ... it is a kit. complete package.. you get 80hp
this may cost a lil more
so what does
ITB's =39hp
cams =?
headers =?
and headers back piping =?
hell.. 50shot of juice to go with it..?
tottal..?
Black Yaris
08-03-2007, 04:26 PM
$3k? can you tell me where you plan on getting the parts (motor, tranny, ecu, cluster, etc.) please thanks. also, how many hours do you estimate it will take you to cut the firewall, fab engine mounts, and do all the wiring?
i'm planning on doing this too but when i do the math, i end up at over $5k and assloads of down time.
Easiest way, but a totaled car with a 2zz-ge in it, you have you mounts, wiring, ECU, etc.... sell off what you do not use, after you are done
Sabretooth
08-03-2007, 05:37 PM
I understand the whole buy a totaled car thing...I have considered buying a 2zz...
But space and headache wise, just buy a 4age. We can go back and forth all day on why one is better than the other. But in my eyes, if I was to go with a new motor after my Warranty is fried. Just for the sake of not having to cut much if anything, and having to fabricate some mirracle of a project. I would got with a 4age, you lose only 20hp, and you could gain that with bolt-ons.
Not to mention cost wise when it comes to motor:
4aGE:(Leven)Silvertop for 2,229 6spd tranny
4aGE: Blacktop for 700 5spd tranny http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Corolla-Levin-AE111-4A-GE-20-Valve-silver-top_W0QQitemZ160142808884QQihZ006QQcategoryZ33615Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
2zz-GE:Motor and Tranny $3000
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-Toyota-Matrix-XRS-2ZZGE-Used-Engine-under-45k_W0QQitemZ220121225206QQihZ012QQcategoryZ33615Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
These are just Ebay prices, Im sure you can find cheaper elseware, but this is what I found within 2 minutes, easily.
RShatchback
08-03-2007, 05:53 PM
I'd get an ITb kit for shitsngiggles if it was like 1500 - once you pass 2000, its moving into turbo kit territory...why get the regular value meal when I can supersize for .35 more? at that point (Or used to be able to supersize, before all those w/ no will power and cant say no took my larger fries and drink away..)
Turbo&Auto
08-03-2007, 06:24 PM
Excellent analogy!! I like that :)
Thirty-Nine
08-03-2007, 06:48 PM
i take it you have never done touge..?
What does touge have to do with anything?
turbo is kick ass! dont get me wrong
but the engine being so weak in tourqe
i just think there would be too much lag
and not like you can get this big ass boom out of a little engine with a little turbo.. unless internaly built to take that abuse.. but lets face it.. not too many people are gona do that..
its all preference..
Lag is going to be all about the size of the turbo you're using. You'd have to build the crap out of the 1NZ-FE to be able to run more than 7 psi on a regular basis.
Don't want to deal with lag? Buy a supercharger. Greddy and Blitz both have chargers for the 1NZ-FE as dose Power Enterprises.
BTW, in regards to the 4AGE: In many places, it's illegal to put an older engine in a newer car (e.g. the engine must be the same age or newer than the vehicle it's going into or you can't register it). Probably not a problem in places w/o emissions testing, though.
NonStopTuning
08-03-2007, 07:53 PM
can anyone say large volume NST velocity stacks???
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/crashdrive/ae86itblarge.jpg
WRBlue
08-03-2007, 08:16 PM
attached is the estimate for the ITB's for the Yaris. E-mail us if you have any other questions.
$1800 is a decent price for just the hardware. Could be done cheaper, but not too much. Fab your own manifold (50-400, depending on the amount of DIY), slap on some DCOE throttle bodies (600-800), Velocity stacks/intake box (25-2500), and a Fuel Rail (50). I personally would have more fun building it all and going with a full stand alone :biggrin:
what does the ITB sound like?
Usually they sound super wicked awesome. Especially with velocity stacks. With a nice intake box and filter, they won't sound too different from a CAI.
whooppee777
08-03-2007, 08:32 PM
yea i am waiting for the turbo.
DoriKnights
08-03-2007, 08:38 PM
What does touge have to do with anything?
Lag is going to be all about the size of the turbo you're using. You'd have to build the crap out of the 1NZ-FE to be able to run more than 7 psi on a regular basis.
Don't want to deal with lag? Buy a supercharger. Greddy and Blitz both have chargers for the 1NZ-FE as dose Power Enterprises.
BTW, in regards to the 4AGE: In many places, it's illegal to put an older engine in a newer car (e.g. the engine must be the same age or newer than the vehicle it's going into or you can't register it). Probably not a problem in places w/o emissions testing, though.
you still have to build the internals for some GOOD HP on the 1n.. defeats the purpose on a "Turbo Kit".. and might as well go full sand alone...
im more comparing stock engine, not touching the head nor the bottom end.. just moding around it.. ... all in all if you where to fully build a 1n.. then T is the way to go for hp.. you boost.. pffft whatever and make 200+ hp..
as for the s/c . id rather boost off exhaust mani then put stress on the crank.. go turbo..+ i feel s/c are limited to boost
and the 4ag thing... man ..how will you place the motor.. they sit tottaly backwards..
DoriKnights
08-03-2007, 09:36 PM
4AGEs do not all sit "backwards" The AW11 MR2 4AG sits just like any other FWD setup. Here is one of mine...
i think it does sit backwards dude...
the intake manifold is towards the firewall.. and the intake mani for the yeris is facing the radiator.....
it can be done.. just a lot of fab
DoriKnights
08-03-2007, 09:43 PM
4AGEs do not all sit "backwards" The AW11 MR2 4AG sits just like any other FWD setup. Here is one of mine...
(*(*(*yaris engine bay*)*)*)*)
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g133/applekid1259/IMG_0761.jpg
(*(*(*(**20v 4ag fwd engine bay)*)*)*)*)*)*)
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x98/jdm_racing/11022007049.jpg
Thirty-Nine
08-03-2007, 09:57 PM
Backwards or not -- it shouldn't really matter as long as it fits.
In the Honda world, people swap in the K-series motors into Civics/Inegras, which are "backwards."
Sabretooth
08-03-2007, 11:40 PM
also you have to realize that the Levin motor has more junk in front than back...lol, in short, less headers and more intake... makes sense to just make it fit
ROCKLAND TOYOTA
08-04-2007, 12:09 PM
what about swapping in a turbo starlet motor like ive seen in a couple of xa's???
cali yaris
08-04-2007, 12:54 PM
I thought this was a thread about ITB's. Then I found myself wading through engine swap posts.... again. Meanwhile, legit questions about the ITB setup weren't attended to.
I'm interested in an ITB setup, and I'd like to follow Danstoy's progress and see what comes of it. Maybe a dedicated engine-swap area/thread would serve us better?
1. How is management achieved when it's well known that the Yaris ECU is resistant and pesky?
2. I know Coi, and I know he ran a carbon fiber hood company into the ground. Is there reasonable assurance of any product quality and/or customer service from Danstoy?
3. Whoever posted about the Scion market not being interested was correct. However, I'm not sure the xA/xB market (tC excluded) is the same as our Yaris market. There seems to be more interest in aggressive aftermarket performance here.
mandriu
08-04-2007, 03:05 PM
I like the way it looks, but am worried about filtration.
cali yaris
08-04-2007, 03:13 PM
you mean, like there isn't any? lol
guess we'll see what they have in mind...
lostmind
08-04-2007, 03:29 PM
Man, I google the ITB's for a couple hours and still don't fully understand what they allow you to do. I didn't see any setups with turbo's although people in this thread said they'll work together... I didn't find anything on how the tuning would work with these... Basically, I suck and dunno why this product excites people except for the fact that it looks crazy cool....
This is basically an intake upgrade that on it's own may net a couple HP? But since the sensor is missing the ecu will be pissed, throw a CEL and all that, so you have to add the engine management to the setup right? And that management allows you to do what exactly? Increase timing? Air/fuel ratio? Run higher octane fuel? How does this really make more power on a little engine like ours?
I'm a computer guy... I kinda understand how an engine works... but honestly I don't fully understand all of it. This product doesn't seem all that great to me except for the fact that some people are claiming that this package could net 25-30whp which to me is EXACTLY what the yaris needs...
Which is why it interests me greatly, but I can't seem to find much info on it! Can anyone explain the pro's and cons of this product? Would be seriously appreciated. I've been patiently waiting for more power products to come out and if this is really all it's cracked up to be then I may be all over it...
WRBlue
08-04-2007, 04:29 PM
Backwards or not -- it shouldn't really matter as long as it fits.
In the Honda world, people swap in the K-series motors into Civics/Inegras, which are "backwards."
Thats not backwards at all... Do you expect to use the OEM/1z exhaust with the new engine??? Thats an easy swap.
Now this is what I thought you meant:
DSM:
http://members.shaw.ca/dsm.1000q/Engineprimer/1G/timingconn-location.jpg
Evo 4+:
http://www.powerengineering.co.uk/acatalog/LARGE_M_EngineBayBolts.jpg
Both are 4G63's but they mount on different sides of the bay.
I quoted this particular post because of the word backwards and honda... D and B series spin backwards from every other manufacturer, yet the K (and S2K F series) spin correctly, so really swapping a K into a B/D/H chassis is REALLY swapping a backwards engine :wink:
I like the way it looks, but am worried about filtration.
Thats why you use air boxes:
http://www.twminduction.com/images/6-cyl_airbox.jpg
Slap an intake tube and filter at the end and there you go.
Man, I google the ITB's for a couple hours and still don't fully understand what they allow you to do. I didn't see any setups with turbo's although people in this thread said they'll work together... I didn't find anything on how the tuning would work with these... Basically, I suck and dunno why this product excites people except for the fact that it looks crazy cool....
This is basically an intake upgrade that on it's own may net a couple HP? But since the sensor is missing the ecu will be pissed, throw a CEL and all that, so you have to add the engine management to the setup right? And that management allows you to do what exactly? Increase timing? Air/fuel ratio? Run higher octane fuel? How does this really make more power on a little engine like ours?
I'm a computer guy... I kinda understand how an engine works... but honestly I don't fully understand all of it. This product doesn't seem all that great to me except for the fact that some people are claiming that this package could net 25-30whp which to me is EXACTLY what the yaris needs...
Which is why it interests me greatly, but I can't seem to find much info on it! Can anyone explain the pro's and cons of this product? Would be seriously appreciated. I've been patiently waiting for more power products to come out and if this is really all it's cracked up to be then I may be all over it...
The biggest bonuses to ITB's in their selves are better throttle response.
The power comes from a couple places - 1: new intake manifold, and 2: increased throttle body area.
The biggest problems are - 1: Linkage, and 2: throttle position sensors.
Linkage because instead of opening 1 throttle plate, your opening 4 - but Italians (Weber) took care of that back in the 30s-40s, they are complex and can have alot of problems if not installed right or adjusted though. Throttle Position sensor because the ECU needs it obviously, but it only wants the OEM TPS. Generic ITBs use generic (usually GM) TPS's that won;t connect to the harness or communicate right.
lostmind
08-04-2007, 09:27 PM
wrblue, ty for the explanation...
Motorhead6T5
08-04-2007, 11:37 PM
There is no way you will get a 1/3 gain in power. Probably lose a lot down bottom too. Personaly I think it would be stupid to put this on a stock car. Whole lot of headache for an assumed gain,assuming you could ever get it to work right with throttle by wire.
Nexus1155
08-05-2007, 12:17 AM
There is a possibility don't get me wrong with right tuning and high octane fuel etc there is a good chance.... Some motorcycles im pretty sure have ITB's that run on DBW... some Suzukis I just looked up on ebay were(i didn't see any linkage). http://youtube.com/watch?v=MfQ4eA626kM ... Some nice ITB Action...
I want to fab up a DIY kit with a guide like some other people did for other cars if anyone is willing to help me.... Chino? i messaged you earlier... anyone else wanna get in on this... Woohoo Aim Chatroom ftw...?
cali yaris
08-05-2007, 12:33 AM
Throttle by wire works great on my Scion tC. As for the ITB setup for the Yaris, we'll all be waiting to see Danstoy's results.
It's all on paper until then.
FunctionSpec
08-05-2007, 09:07 PM
Individual Throttle Bodies vs Turbo
Each has its own advantages and disadvantages depending on the application it is used for.
ITB are great for the track(track as in a road course with corners, not a dragstrip). Entrance and exit corner speeds will be better with ITBs because of the high response and smoother power flow. The increase horsepower will get it around the track faster and the increase response helps in getting up to speed quicker for the next corner. Coupled with a good set of cams and upgraded lighter valvetrain, you can get more horsepower and a higher rpm limit. The disadvantage is that it is costly upgrade for the amount of horsepower but for the application it is used for, it is worth it. The Yaris is light and nimble so a setup like this for the track will be great. The main advantage of the Yaris on the track is its cornerspeed and ITBs will greatly improve it. With ITBs you get the reliability of a Naturally Aspirated motor without the worry of blowing something up, but just don't overrev it haha.
Turbo is good for those who want more power for the money. Turbo has its main advantage on the dragstrip where more horsepower means better times, but thats of course if you can get the power to the ground. More horsepower means faster car in a straightline. The problem with Turbo on the track(track with corners) is turbo LAG. Exit speeds are reduce because of the lag and lack of response. Entrance speed is also reduce because of lag and not being able to get up to speed quick enough. When the turbo does kick in, the sudden increase in power and torque will break its front tires loose creating understeer which will cause you to lift off the throttle and reduce even more speed. Since the car is FWD, breaking the front tires loose is bad since power delivery and steering are all controlled by the front tires. The smoother power flow of ITBs will keep the power to the ground.
Which you choose depends on the application you want to use it for because of the advantages and disadvantages of both, so choose wisely.
cali yaris
08-05-2007, 09:14 PM
ok, just so everyone knows what the Danstoy kit *might* look like, here's the two pics from ScionLife:
http://www.g2autosports.com/images/cool/xA_ITB-1.jpg
http://www.g2autosports.com/images/cool/xA_ITB-2.jpg
Nexus1155
08-06-2007, 01:07 AM
anymore pics?
cdmyaris
08-06-2007, 01:21 AM
im digging this ITB kit... cant wait for more info!
btw, is there any other yaris with something similar like red yaris above my post? I dont see it around with yaris that much.
Bluevitz-rs
04-30-2010, 11:51 AM
So years later, did this kit ever come to fruition?
cali yaris
04-30-2010, 01:20 PM
over 2 1/2 years. :smile:
no.
Nexus1155
04-30-2010, 01:36 PM
WHAT don't ghost bump I got all excited when i saw it again
lilredrocket
04-30-2010, 01:42 PM
Haha...
cali yaris
04-30-2010, 02:04 PM
^ +1
BUMP
Bluevitz-rs
05-01-2010, 12:40 AM
WHAT don't ghost bump I got all excited when i saw it again
HAHAHAHAHAHA Ghost bump LMFAO !!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Marfulion
05-03-2010, 11:16 PM
CAN'T WAIT!!!
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