manual trans fluid

[d2dailly]

did a search for 2 hours didnt find the weight i need... i am sqitching to amsoil trans fluid and correct me if i am wrong but it is 2 quarts right?

[d2dailly]

please???

[xpeteyjtx]

It should be in your manual, homie. You can also find a .pdf copy of the owners manual at http://www.etimago.com/yaris/repairmanual/

Manual Transaxle
Oil type: API GL-4 or GL-5
75W-90

2 quarts or 1.9 Liters

[nqd]

hey x what part of mass you from?

[xpeteyjtx]

Taunton, I go to school in Boston though... but I am on break right now

[AlphaFox]

Im in Spfld MA!! NQD + MASS FTW!!

[Black Yaris]

I want to switch my fluid as well, but I feel dumb, and do not know where to fill it back up at..... it is the only reason why I have not done it yet

[socko]

Black Yaris:

The fill hole can easily be seen standing in front of the car and looking down in the engine compartment to the right (driver side) of the engine. On mine, both the drain and the fill hole have a while adhesive tag on them.
I, too, plan to change to Amsoil 75W90 synthetic.

[Black Yaris]

Black Yaris:

The fill hole can easily be seen standing in front of the car and looking down in the engine compartment to the right (driver side) of the engine. On mine, both the drain and the fill hole have a while adhesive tag on them.
I, too, plan to change to Amsoil 75W90 synthetic.

What? a while adhesive? the drain is just like a normal oil pan

[blacksan]

I am trying to get you guys a screen shot, but the putter is not behaving. Just go to the manual sticky (C50 Manual Transaxle, P 12) for the filler and drain plug location. It does not make a lot of sense until you visually inspect the vehicle in comparison to the diagram. You can use a funnel with a long hose to fill it from the top.

YES, I finally got the dam thing to work!

[blacksan]

BTW, here are a few more specs that I scrounged up which covers most often maintained items.

2007 TOYOTA YARIS 1.5L 4-cyl Engine Code 1NZ-FE

FILTERS
Oil Filter........ EAO09 AMSOIL Ea Oil Filter
Oil Filter........ 51394 WIX 51394 Oil Filter
Air Filter........ 49104


TRICO WIPER BLADES
Driver: NEOFORM (T16260) EXACT FIT (T261) WINTER (T37260) OKTANE (24)
Passenger: EXACT FIT (T141) WINTER (T37131)

LUBRICANTS & FLUIDS
Engine Oil
Grade 1......API*
Series 2000 Synthetic 0W-30 Motor Oil
SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 5W-30 XL Synthetic Motor Oil
Series 3000 Synthetic 5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil
All Temps......5W-30
Manual Transmission,.....GL-5
All TEMPS......75W-90
Severe Gear 75W-90
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
Manual Transmission,.....GL-4
All TEMPS......75W-90
Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle Gear Lube 75W-90
Automatic Transmission.....WS
Fluids
Brake Fluid.....HB
Clutch Fluid.....HB

CHASSIS LUBRICATION
0 Fittings, 0 Plugs

CAPACITIES
Engine, with filter..........3.9 quarts[1]
Cooling System, W/ MT Initial Fill..........5.1 quarts
Cooling System, W/ AT Initial Fill..........5.0 quarts
Automatic Transmission, Initial Fill..........2.7 quarts[2]
Automatic Transmission, Total Fill
U340E..........3.1 quarts
Manual Transmission, ..........4.0 pints

1. After refill check oil level.
2. With ENG at operating temperature, shift through all
gears. Check fluid level in PARK and add fluid as needed.

TORQUES
Oil Drain Plug.....28 ft-lbs
Manual Transmission
Fill Plug.....29 ft-lbs
Drain Plug.....29 ft-lbs

[Black Yaris]

I am trying to get you guys a screen shot, but the putter is not behaving. Just go to the manual sticky (C50 Manual Transaxle, P 12) for the filler and drain plug location. It does not make a lot of sense until you visually inspect the vehicle in comparison to the diagram. You can use a funnel with a long hose to fill it from the top.

YES, I finally got the dam thing to work!

I am baffled, I see where that drain plug is..... but then why do I have a drain plug in my tranny pan? Yes I drive a manual

[YarisGuy]

Thank you blacksan, very useful information.

[blacksan]

I am baffled, I see where that drain plug is..... but then why do I have a drain plug in my tranny pan? Yes I drive a manual

Hmmm, I need to double check as I did not notice a drain plug on my pan??? On my last Toy truck I also had duel drains and no one else with the same setup did???

[Black Yaris]

I seem to remember Chino calling me the first time he changed his oil asking me which drain plug he needed to pull..... so I know I am not the only one..... or it is just an Ohio Yaris thing

[blacksan]

Ok, mine also has duel plugs. I made a few calls and was told that pulling the pan plug (lowest point) is sufficient after heating up trans. I drained via vacum pump and did not bother with the drain plug as it was at only 5K.

[socko]

What? a while adhesive? the drain is just like a normal oil pan

Black Yaris:

typo, I meant to say a "white" adhesive tag.

[nsmitchell]

It must be the new manual trannys, but in all the manuals I've ever done, I just used a normal motor oil like Mobil-1 10W-30. They all shifted like a dream! 75W-90 is some thick stuff. I wonder why it needs to be so thick?

[ttufrosty]

I too am looking to go to AMsoil 75W-90, I did find these two topics on the Scions. At least they are a starting point on what to do if you need a visual reference.

Changing an Xb
http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/vintagefortytwo/xB%20Trans%20Oil%20Change/

Changing a tC
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=120673

[Black Yaris]

It must be the new manual trannys, but in all the manuals I've ever done, I just used a normal motor oil like Mobil-1 10W-30. They all shifted like a dream! 75W-90 is some thick stuff. I wonder why it needs to be so thick?
Don't know what kind of manuals you drove but every manual I know of either takes gear lube (75w-90, 75w-140, etc), or many mazda/ford manual trannys actually take ATF.

I too am looking to go to AMsoil 75W-90, I did find these two topics on the Scions. At least they are a starting point on what to do if you need a visual reference.

Changing an Xb
http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/vintagefortytwo/xB%20Trans%20Oil%20Change/

Changing a tC
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=120673

I just changed mine to Amsoil as well, after I got my car up on ramps and saw the large fill and drain plugs plainly labled "see owners manual before refilling"... it was a simple job with the beer bong funnel to fill her up...

[ttufrosty]

Here is another topic from Scionlife with lots of info on changing the manual tranny fluid as well as info on particular gear oil to use.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=64370&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=change+transmission+oil&&start=0

[hystria]

Syncromesh Friction Modified sell by GM for manual Corvette transmissions will help having smoother gear shifting after a while

[JosephDoc]

Manual Transmission,.....GL-5
All TEMPS......75W-90
Severe Gear 75W-90
SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube

-------------------------- Thanks for the backing up.:laugh: I thought I've used the wrong oil.

I just did my first oil change @ 2k miles. I replaced both motor and transaxle (manual transmission) fluids @ 2k miles since my wife is a stick-shift noob and I feel secured to get it done early.

I use "Eneos-0w20" for motor oil, and "AMS SEVERE GEAR Synth 75-90" for the tranny. Why? Don't ask but let me finish... I know Eneos' quality and I am a JDM fan, but since Eneos has not released their 75w90 in USA so I pick the best by AMS.

But why sever-duty grade in a little Yaris? I was not so sure but it was recommended by a good friend who works in the parts store. So the truth is on all newer Toyotas, the manual tranny does require GL4 or GL5 fluids as it says in Techinfo-Toyota. I could not find out more support material about AMS's "SEVERE GEAR Synth 75-90" but I guess I have to trust good friends' advise when I am not a pro at it. With or without the servere-grade label, I pick the servere grade since I notice frequently I push the car a bit harder than my other cars since the Yaris has a small engine.

Now the car runs much smoother and overall vibration has clammed down a lot. It works!! I am also expecting to see some gaining in MGP in next few weeks. :headbang:

http://www.eneos.us/images/SAE-0W-20-1small.jpg
https://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/images/svg_350pxh.jpg

[Black Yaris]

Joseph.... I have found that if you are pushing the car every now and again. 0w20 is no good.... the 20 weight is a little too thin... need to go to 0w30 if you are harder on your car, that is what I am now running, I had to change the 0w20 early because it was so dark, yes it was full synth.... after doing a little more reading online 0w30 is the way to go, it is actually the #1 recommended replacment oil for cars that came with 5w30 from the factory

[WolfWings]

Don't know what kind of manuals you drove but every manual I know of either takes gear lube (75w-90, 75w-140, etc), or many mazda/ford manual trannys actually take ATF.

3rd-gen Civic manual transmissions specified 30W engine-oil for the transmission, actually. Not 10W-30, 30W. And not gear oil, motor oil. Single-grade motor oil, in a transmission. Still want one of those again.

They also happened to specify that for the engine itself as an option in climates that didn't get below 20F/-7C, so on my '86 Civic I had straight 30W oil in the entire vehicle.

[1stToyota]

It should be in your manual, homie. You can also find a .pdf copy of the owners manual at http://www.etimago.com/yaris/repairmanual/

Manual Transaxle
Oil type: API GL-4 or GL-5
75W-90

2 quarts or 1.9 Liters

If you look at the technical data on GL-4 and GL-5 it's easy to see that GL-4 is specifically designed for transmissions with their soft metals, and GL-5 is designed for differentials. Most synthetic 75W-90 is GL-5. I've only been able to find two 75W-90s that are available in GL-4; AMSOIL and Pennzoil. It's harder to find but I'd much rather have the gear oil that's designed for a manual transaxle.

[jkuchta]

The redline is a GL-4, and is designed specifically for Toyota synchros.

[1stToyota]

The redline is a GL-4, and is designed specifically for Toyota synchros.

Is it really?
On their site I'm seeing 75w-90 and 75w-90 NS, both listed as GL-5. I really didn't study what they claimed about the 75w-90, but the 75w-90 NS shows to work in transmissions, as well as differentials. If they had a 3rd choice of a GL-4 75w-90 I guess I didn't find it.

[mikenacarato]

the royal purple 75w90 oil we use in our differentials at work in semi trucks is the same stuff i used in my yaris. its max life 75w90 which i believe is what other royal purple useres used.

[jkuchta]

1stToyota, the redline product you want is called MT-90.

[gid]

1stToyota, the redline product you want is called MT-90. is GL-4 . Says it on the bottle as well . Otherwise I wouldn't use it .

[1stToyota]

1stToyota, the redline product you want is called MT-90.

Thanks. We're gettin' things done now. That's three synthetic 75W-90s that we know for sure are GL-4 rated: Redline MT-90, AMSOIL's transmission/transaxle fluid, Pennzoil's GL-4 75W-90 :w00t:

[Chupacabra]

After putting the MT-90 in nearly all my cars...I highly recommend it in the Yaris. The shifts are like butter now (especially reverse).

[gid]

After putting the MT-90 in nearly all my cars...I highly recommend it in the Yaris. The shifts are like butter now (especially reverse).what other vehicles you have ? :wink:

[Chupacabra]

1963 split Window Corvette Fuelie (MINT)
1973 Camaro Type LT with 383 stroker (MINT)
1988 BMW M3-Evo 3 spec (MINT)
1988 BMW 535is

and a few others for now... I am waiting for the market to turn around a bit before I get excited over anything else. I will be building a 6 car garage and adding onto my house in the next few years so...a lot of money will be funneled in that direction.

[gid]

you could be the next JAY LENO :smile: . Nice collection too :thumbsup: .

[gid]

the SEVERE GEAR is GL-5 and not safe for synchros , could make for difficult shifting and damage internal parts . The MTG is fine , states that here under PRODUCT DESCIPTION www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtg.aspx . Mentions TOYOTA as well .

[1stToyota]

the SEVERE GEAR is GL-5 and not safe for synchros , could make for difficult shifting and damage internal parts . The MTG is fine , states that here under PRODUCT DESCIPTION www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtg.aspx . Mentions TOYOTA as well .

I think Toyota says GL-4 and GL-5 are both okay for their transaxle, but it just makes sense to use the GL-4 that's designed for transaxles/transmissions with their soft metals and leave the GL-5 for the differentials. I know that the expensive LubroMoly GL-5 75W-90 (made in Germany) didn't do much to improve my shifts.

[Chupacabra]

I think I'd stick with the GL-4 as well.

[gid]

used MOBIL 1 ( 75w-90 , GL-5 ) in the 2000 PRIZM ( Corolla ) with a speed manual which is similiar to that of the YARIS and threw of the synchros making for grinding when shifting to different gears , downshifting , and the clunk / harder engagement ( grinding ) into reverse worse . When replaced with the REDLINE MT-90 ( GL-4 ) all that disappeared :thumbsup: . As for when using the MOBIL 1 synthetic tranny fluid for the power steering in the PRIZM ( Corolla ) it worked wonders . Removed the old P.S. fluid after car sat overnight to withdraw and refill fluid at COLD mark of resorvoir with a animal medicine dispenser ( oral syringe : www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=836 ) with a clear plastic air hose ( air pump for fish tank ) attached to syringe ( slips over end ) and drawed out as much of the old / mixed A.T. fluid as possible over period of time until most of the MOBIL 1 A.T.F was gone . That way it would clean and replenish with new fluid over time . The amazing part is that when the regular P.S. fluid in the power steering resorvoir ran hot it would read at or a bit over the HOT mark . When applied the MOBIL 1 synthetic A.T. fluid it read a little over halfway point , COLD mark , when hot ( less friction = less heat = less expansion of fluid ) . AMAZING :wink: . NO leaks ( checked often ) . The steering became more responsive ( like that of electric power steering ) and with less effort at slow speeds ( inertia ) . When turning the wheels at a standstill there was no squealing as well . I think it may have helped with gas mileage due to less resistance in turning ( less gas applied to turn , coast ) . If you look in YARIS owners manual it states that one of the benefits of electric steering is for fuel economy . If not mentioned in YARIS owners manual , it did state it in our '07 PRIUS owners manual that was traded in for '08 YARIS sedan . So , if have an older car with A.T. fluid for power steering I highly suggest the MOBIL 1 synthetic A.T.F. ( or other ) for use . I think you'll be quite pleased in the steering performance .

[gid]

during this time of using MT-90 and MOBIL1 A.T.F. for power steering the PRIZM got a little over 43 miles per gallon . The conditions were : 70% hwy. / 30% city ( speeds up to 70 m.p.h ) , 2 people 90% of time , hot and humid , Tire Pressue : 34 P.S.I. ( Cooper Trendsetter SE ) , GULF 93 octane , and a dose of CHEVRON Techron . The motor oil was regular PENNZOIL 5w-30 . The miles were from looking at '08 YARIS and COROLLAs . The gas mileage that fill is very close to both our '08 YARIS ( automatic sedan and 5 speed manual L.B. ) for best fuel economy . They're best so far has been a little over 44 m.p.g.. Miss that car :frown: . Traded in for the '08 Liftback with 5 speed manual . The clutch was easier in that too :rolleyes: .

[Red Horse]

So Redline MT-90 is the best for tranny, better than AMSOIL?

[gid]

So Redline MT-90 is the best for tranny, better than AMSOIL? :iono: , haven't tried it yet for a GL-4 .

[1stToyota]

So Redline MT-90 is the best for tranny, better than AMSOIL?

I'd say the MT-90 and Amsoil's GL-4 75W-90 are both close and very good, probably both are better than my Pennzoil GL-4 75W-90, but I wouldn't care to breakup the theme that I got going on. :smile:

[gid]

PENNZOIL now has a GL-4 synthetic gear oil , www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/DomesticMarketing/Gear&Transmission/pdf/SyntheticSAE75W90GL-4.PDF and www.pennzoil.com//products/gear_oil/index.html#SyntheticGear , wonder if this is as good as their PLATINUM motor oil that gets very good U.O.A.s at www.bobistheoilguy.com . May have to give this a try in the future . Should cost less than AMSOIL or REDLINE , may be difficult to find . Sorry to break the mold . Couldn't resist :biggrin: .

[1stToyota]

PENNZOIL now has a GL-4 synthetic gear oil , www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/DomesticMarketing/Gear&Transmission/pdf/SyntheticSAE75W90GL-4.PDF and www.pennzoil.com//products/gear_oil/index.html#SyntheticGear , wonder if this is as good as their PLATINUM motor oil that gets very good U.O.A.s at www.bobistheoilguy.com . May have to give this a try in the future . Should cost less than AMSOIL or REDLINE , may be difficult to find . Sorry to break the mold . Couldn't resist :biggrin: .

I discovered it was hard to find. Had to special order mine from Napa. It's in my sig but LubroMoly is what's actually still in my transaxle. I'll switch it out next week. I don't know the cost yet. I didn't ask.

[gid]

let us know how the PENNZOIL GL-4 synthetic works out for you . THANKS 'n' GOOD LUCK :wink: .

[yuri2002]

When is the appropriate time to change manaul transmission fluid. I have 53K miles and own the car about 2 years now.

[gid]

now be fine :thumbsup: .

[1stToyota]

let us know how the PENNZOIL GL-4 synthetic works out for you . THANKS 'n' GOOD LUCK :wink: .

Still waiting on Napa to give me a call when the Pennzoil comes in...they said 1 week, which I think would have been the 13th.

[WolfWings]

It must be the new manual trannys, but in all the manuals I've ever done, I just used a normal motor oil like Mobil-1 10W-30. They all shifted like a dream! 75W-90 is some thick stuff. I wonder why it needs to be so thick?

Hell, old 3rd-gen Civic manual transmissions recommended 30W engine oil in the transmission, and the engine if you lived in temperate and mild climates. Made it insanely-cheap to just change all the fluids every oil change, since 30W is just about bottom-barrel for price.

[RagnaCaT]

Now that where talking about Tranny Oil I got an issue with mine i got some MT-90 and wow great stuff all around it's so smooth! the only thing is that I get a slight grinding sound when I rev hard really hard and shift to 3RD gear I have a NST SSK and TWM short shifter can I be shifting to fast for synchros? :iono:

[gid]

Now that where talking about Tranny Oil I got an issue with mine i got some MT-90 and wow great stuff all around it's so smooth! the only thing is that I get a slight grinding sound when I rev hard really hard and shift to 3RD gear I have a NST SSK and TWM short shifter can I be shifting to fast for synchros? :iono: could be the combo :iono: . No issue here , no upgrades tho .

[gid]

Still waiting on Napa to give me a call when the Pennzoil comes in...they said 1 week, which I think would have been the 13th. waiting is :evil: .
give us the scoop once it's been installed . May want to give it a try myself over time . Keep seeing very good U.O.A.s for the PLATINUM motor oil at B.I.T.O.G.. Would think their synthetic gear oil be a good performer too . Hang in there . :wink:

[jkuchta]

I have gotten the same slight grinding going into 3rd when shifting fast. I have both NST SSK's, and have only experianced it at the track. Calming down a little bit has cured the problem:wink: without a significant increase in shift times.

[RagnaCaT]

I have gotten the same slight grinding going into 3rd when shifting fast. I have both NST SSK's, and have only experianced it at the track. Calming down a little bit has cured the problem:wink: without a significant increase in shift times.

Could be cuase if I shift it slow on a high rev it won't grind. Got to work on the calming down thing :evil:

[1stToyota]

waiting is :evil: .
give us the scoop once it's been installed . May want to give it a try myself over time . Keep seeing very good U.O.A.s for the PLATINUM motor oil at B.I.T.O.G.. Would think their synthetic gear oil be a good performer too . Hang in there . :wink:

Can't do the synthetic Pennzoil GL-4 75W-90 right now. After 2 weeks I called Napa again and they said it couldn't be shipped because it's against UPS's policy to ship oil, grease, etc :bs: ...funny, UPS shipped my ENEOS to me, in the ENEOS box, and about $3K worth of AMSOIL products to a friend of mine. I've decided to go with the AMSOIL GL-4. Should be here in a day or two.

http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/images/mtg_qt_350pxh.jpg

[gid]

bummer , was hoping to see how the PENNZOIL synthetic GL-4 would do for your tranny :frown: . Let you and your car be the lab rat :wink: . Just kidding , sure it would've performed well . Let us know how the AMSOIL MTG works for you . THANKS

[1stToyota]

bummer , was hoping to see how the PENNZOIL synthetic GL-4 would do for your tranny :frown: . Let you and your car be the lab rat :wink: . Just kidding , sure it would've performed well . Let us know how the AMSOIL MTG works for you . THANKS

Didn't actually expect there to be such a big difference in the LubroMoly full synthetic GL-5 75W-90 and AMSOIL's GL-4 75W-90, but the shifts now are effortless and smooth as silk. :thumbup:

[gid]

that's good :thumbsup: . Shift from the GL 5 > 4 is a smooth transition for your transmission . :rolleyes: . Enjoy :burnrubber:

[Chupacabra]

:burnrubber:I can't rave enough about the MT-90. I love shifting through the gears now.

[gid]

cold shifting is much easier in these temps . :thumbsup: . Let the good times roll :burnrubber: . :wink:

[1stToyota]

cold shifting is much easier in these temps . :thumbsup: . Let the good times roll :burnrubber: . :wink:

Reverse will get a good test tomorrow morning. The longer the GL-5 stayed in the transaxle the notchier the shifts were getting and finding reverse on the first try was starting to become a joke.

[gid]

yup , downshifting with GL-5 was a joke , would grind like crazy :eek: . Work through all gears as much as possible and drive around in reverse in empty parking lot or back street / road ( people may think you're nuts :biggrin: ) . I leave car in reverse when parked . ENJOY :thumbsup:

[metalshark]

1stToyota, the redline product you want is called MT-90.
+1. Shifts better, better mileage. GL-5 has more extreme pressure additives for hypoid gears than can rob mileage.

[Yaribhini]

MT-90 is a beautiful thing.