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ToyotaTEch21
08-06-2007, 08:10 PM
I didn't see where this was covered yet. I know some of you guys have complained of a rattle. most common in reverse (on automatics). Well I found a TSB at work the other day for the shift cable rattling. The official fix from toyota is a zip tie :clap: . there is a bracket on the fire wall that the shift cable sits against but isn't attached to. Just zip tie the cable to the bracket, problem solved.

tsportman
09-06-2007, 06:17 PM
Anyone got a pic of the metal bracket ?
I have the same problem with my 5-speed manual Tsport !
I would like to compare the brackets and see if the tie helps me as good as with the auto transmission.
Thanks

YarisTom73
09-07-2007, 09:07 AM
I didn't see where this was covered yet. I know some of you guys have complained of a rattle. most common in reverse (on automatics). Well I found a TSB at work the other day for the shift cable rattling. The official fix from toyota is a zip tie :clap: . there is a bracket on the fire wall that the shift cable sits against but isn't attached to. Just zip tie the cable to the bracket, problem solved.

Thanks, I was looking for that one too. If possible, please post TSB number? My dealership "can't find it" :mad:

summergxz
09-15-2007, 06:30 PM
I am experiencing exactly the same problem here with my automatic
If you could provide me some pictures that would be great
since my dealership could not fix it :mad:
I would have to do it my self i guess :iono:
Thanks

ToyotaTEch21
09-16-2007, 02:57 AM
Sorry guys just noticed the replies. I'll have to check on a TSB # for ya. I dont have a camera at the moment so I cant help you on a pic. But if you look behind the engine, on the drivers side you should be able to see the shift cable. Right next to it there is a bracket that is wire form. Its not solid, its just made out of thin round stock.

PetersRedYaris
09-19-2007, 05:20 PM
This fix doe's indeed work... I would never have suspected that part but I secured it with a Zip-Tie and the rattle is GONE. Good find ToyotaTEch21...

I recommend doing the fix yourself from under the car. It will take you less time than driving to the dealership.

evo165
11-04-2009, 07:43 AM
Dear all, PLEASE HELP!! What is TSB and how does it look like? Does TSB related to our Auto box cable? :confused::confused:

I'm having the rattle sound too on my auto yaris. But i can't seem to find any auto cable around my firewall. Some mentioned to cable-tie it around the cable and some mentioned to do it under the hood n etc. I'm too confused which is the exact sport to cable-tie it.

Pls provide some pictures to enlighten me. Me too want to have a "smooth" when doing reverse with my auto yaris. :wub:

CTScott
11-04-2009, 08:37 AM
T-SB-0336-09

Rattle Noise from Automatic Transmission Control Cable
Assembly in Reverse

This was updated in September of 09 to include 08 and 09 cars.

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evo165
11-04-2009, 10:58 AM
Thanks CTScott for the PDF file!! :headbang:

I feel myself being stupid!!:cool:

Now i know TSB stand for Technical Service Bulletin after reading the pdf file!!!!!:bellyroll:

Will find raise the veh the next time i send my veh for servicing!!!! :wub:

birdman
11-11-2009, 02:10 AM
Shine a flashlight along the cable to where it passes under the rear of the engine compartment (fire wall). You will see a flimsy wire thingy. That's the bracket you zip tie the cable to. I did it from above without much trouble. If you can get access from below it's probably easier to do. Hope this helps.

YarisSedan
11-11-2009, 02:44 AM
Oh yeah i see what you guys mean that stupid braket that seems to do nothing but allow the cable to rest against.

severous01
11-11-2009, 09:54 PM
mine was black sail panels right above/near side mirrors. by front windows between windshield.

remove from inside fender, do not break...install rubber o-rings. yay. i actually used some foam rings i had laying around for a cadillac door panel.

127.0.0.1
03-24-2010, 09:49 PM
I can confirm the rattle exists in 2010 US Yaris 5 door automatics


I was sitting idle...and heard...umm...a rumble ? or rattle...

anyhow....dug up this thread. ziptied my cable to the bracket. now the Yaris
is quieter in all situations. seems the rattle adds to overall noise no matter what mode
you happen to be in. ziptied....now the little piglet is quieter everywhere.

Vang
03-28-2010, 01:05 AM
I can confirm the rattle exists in 2010 US Yaris 5 door automatics


I was sitting idle...and heard...umm...a rumble ? or rattle...

anyhow....dug up this thread. ziptied my cable to the bracket. now the Yaris
is quieter in all situations. seems the rattle adds to overall noise no matter what mode
you happen to be in. ziptied....now the little piglet is quieter everywhere.

thanks for bumping the thread, my car is getting serviced tomorrow!

RHDVIPbB
03-30-2010, 09:09 PM
Went in today after seeing this and they have to order the part, but it will be fixed. I take it no one had to pay for theirs. I haven't, but I did forget to ask about it.

yarrr
03-30-2010, 10:49 PM
Went in today after seeing this and they have to order the part

They have to order a zip tie? lol

RHDVIPbB
03-31-2010, 12:52 AM
They have to order a zip tie? lol

No apparently it was something else. Hopefully a new bracket. I can't speak for other dealerships, but the tech guys at mine are very thorough. It also helps that some of them I went to school with.

Billiam
04-17-2010, 10:15 PM
Hmm...noticed that I sometimes get a similar rattle in reverse. Not everytime though. I'll have to get up under her tomorrow and check it out. I wonder if I have to use an "OEM Toyota" ziptie? :iono:

127.0.0.1
04-18-2010, 11:48 AM
well, 'any old' ziptie may crack, rot, break, not do the job, cut into the housing

a Toyota spec ziptie will just plain work.

the difference between walmart zipties and
a good one can be huge

Billiam
04-18-2010, 01:04 PM
well, 'any old' ziptie may crack, rot, break, not do the job, cut into the housing

a Toyota spec ziptie will just plain work.

the difference between walmart zipties and
a good one can be huge
:laughabove:


I do have some ties that are designed for use in hot conditions and are UV rated. Might as well use one of those. :thumbsup:

RHDVIPbB
04-18-2010, 01:17 PM
Well I got mine fixed and it doesn't rattle now. I asked the guy what was replaced or what part he needed and apparently there is a bracket that was redesigned to prevent the cable rubbing.

Billiam
04-18-2010, 08:45 PM
Despite being an '10...mine had this issue sometimes. Went out this morning and did the ol' ziptie.....problem solved. :thumbsup:

Now I just hope Toyota doesn't void the warranty for using an aftermarket tie. :help:

Palmer812
04-18-2010, 09:54 PM
Despite being an '10...mine had this issue sometimes. When out this morning and did the ol' ziptie.....problem solved. :thumbsup:

Now I just hope Toyota doesn't void the warranty for using an aftermarket tie. :help:

I noticed this noise on mine 2010 LB the other day but didn't think too much about it until I found this thread. I just went out and popped my hood and my cable is just resting against the bracket. I will do the old zip tie fix tomorrow at work myself. I can't help but to wonder what it would take to get my local dealership to fix it under warranty since the TSB only covers up to 2009 models.

Palmer812
04-18-2010, 09:56 PM
Well I got mine fixed and it doesn't rattle now. I asked the guy what was replaced or what part he needed and apparently there is a bracket that was redesigned to prevent the cable rubbing.

If you don't mind cold you pop your hood and see what was actually done to fix it? I am just curious to see if they used some form of zip tie or if they actually replaced a part. The bracket is easily visible from under the hood. thanks.

aaronwer
10-08-2010, 03:33 PM
hey everyone I have a 2007 sedan and experience the same problem when in reverse. I'll try the ziptie method and see what happens.

However, there is another rattle i'm experiencing (surprise surprise). When the fan comes on and runs while idleing in park (or at a light while in drive) the vibration causes the hood to rattle against the part of the car it rests against while closed. I verified this by having my wife put the car in drive while holding the brake. When I put my hand on the hood, the noise stops.

I'm guessing this has to do with the fact that there is not much padding along the edges of the hood. Any ideas to absorb the vibration and stop the rattle? a sticky foam piece of some kind?

frog13
01-10-2011, 06:44 PM
aaronwer....try tightening the latch bolts.

Also have the same rattle that most folks are describing....when in reverse at a standstill....will inspect the engine area and see if it IS the same problem...thanks for the heads up yaris world crew!!!!.

birdman
01-16-2011, 05:50 AM
regular zip works for mine.

Yarisstance
12-03-2013, 07:40 PM
Here I zip tied what i thought was the shift cable i really hope i am wrong as the rattle did not stop! Can any one point out the cable or upload a pcture please
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CTScott
12-03-2013, 07:43 PM
That is the cable. Check the exhaust heat shield as well, as the cable travels along it, and if any of the mounting screws have pulled through the aluminum it will rattle.

jj422
01-03-2014, 10:58 PM
The information in this thread is awesome.When it gets warmer I will get rid of the rattle.Thanks for the info.:headbang:

jack black
01-04-2014, 03:47 PM
I checked mine and the shift cable was under the wire support and unattached. Close to the exhaust. Is yours like that as well?

I think it makes more sense for the cable to be installed above the bracket, so the support would pull it away from exhaust. I could not move it enough and just zip tied it below the wire support. The access from above the engine was very tight.

Does it look like it's correct now?

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc174/friendly_jacek/DSCN2703_zps8074b5d4.jpg

CTScott
01-04-2014, 03:57 PM
I checked mine and the shift cable was under the wire support and unattached. Close to the exhaust. Is yours like that as well?

I think it makes more sense for the cable to be installed above the bracket, so the support would pull it away from exhaust. I could not move it enough and just zip tied it below the wire support. The access from above the engine was very tight.

Does it look like it's correct now?

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc174/friendly_jacek/DSCN2703_zps8074b5d4.jpg

Under is correct. The wire support is there to keep the cable from rattling against the underside of the floor. The TSB has you tie it to wire support as is reverse there is enough slack in the cable for it to vibrate against the support and make the rattling sound.

jack black
01-04-2014, 04:38 PM
Thanks! There is still some knocking/rattling sound in reverse especially on cold engine. Maybe from somewhere else?

Silverkarn
05-11-2014, 04:26 PM
Anyone have a picture of what this looks like from above? I'd rather try to it without jacking the car up.

Also, if i do have to jack the car up, because its too low to crawl under it, where are safe points to use jack stands?

jack black
05-11-2014, 10:42 PM
Anyone have a picture of what this looks like from above? I'd rather try to it without jacking the car up.


Didn't you see my picture above?

Silverkarn
05-11-2014, 10:59 PM
Didn't you see my picture above?

That's the view from the top? I thought that was the view from the bottom.

Anyway, thanks, i'll find this tomorrow in my car.

key0309
07-30-2017, 10:38 AM
My car is experiencing a rattle noise when I put the shift at D or R and hold the brake. It may not happen at the very first time I start the engine, but it eventually happen for after a few mins.

I opened the hood and have someone hold the brake for me. I saw the engine rattle quite a while holding the brake, compare to another passenger compact car, Versa. I also hear the noise when the engine rattle.

From your guys understanding, is it sound like the situation you guys experienced?
Since it's 2017, I think that won't be covered by Toyota anymore ?

Thanks for any suggestion/advice.

It's a Yaris 2009 btw.

09sedan
05-29-2018, 12:17 PM
my 2009 sedan AT also has a metallic rattling/squealing type noise when its in D and im at a red light or in a drive through with the brakes applied, if I switch to neutral then the noise stops. could this be related to the same TSB?