ROTREX S/C Coming soon!

[barebonedvitz]

wusup peeps.. just emailed rotrex... hell.. if a Fit has a kit.. we better have one too!
:drool:

this just came in my inbox this evening.
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Hi,

Thanks for your interest in Rotrex. You have selected an excellent timing to ask that question.

Our partner Power Enterprise (http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/), that I cc in this correspondance, is working on a kit set for the Yaris, which will be released in the very near future.

You shall hear from PE in the very near future regarding further information.

Best regards,

Niels Ohlsen
Rotrex

[fu_im_from_texas]

cool info, keep us updated!

[Motorhead6T5]

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/Powernews/index.html

I notice one of those pics looks like a vitz with a 1nz-fe.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a250/motorhead6t5/vitzkit200.jpg

[fu_im_from_texas]

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/Powernews/index.html

I notice one of those pics looks like a vitz with a 1nz-fe.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a250/motorhead6t5/vitzkit200.jpg

same link says theres a VITZ kit...

"Power Enterprise Toyota VITZ & Scion bB soon to be available in this summer in Japan"

[Motorhead6T5]

I'm gonna buy it.

[fu_im_from_texas]

I'm gonna buy it.

sweet! the fit got 145ish hp and 145ish lb*ft of torque with Jackson Racing's SC ... that would make for one bad Yari ...

[eTiMaGo]

yummyyyyyyyy

[nqd]

**WARNING**
n00b-ish Questions

Do you need to upgrade internals when adding a Supercharger/Turbo?
After the SC do you need to upgrade to a higher octane gas?

[punch]

according to there site the Bb, makes 150 Hp, and comes with bigger injectors...

[tk-421]

Thanks for the info! Please keep us posted whenever you can.

[Vic-2NZFE]

**WARNING**
n00b-ish Questions

Do you need to upgrade internals when adding a Supercharger/Turbo?
After the SC do you need to upgrade to a higher octane gas?


I believe a supercharger is just a bolt on

Turbo is a different thing; you will need to change internals you will need to use higher octane gas, etc, etc...

Some of the guys on this forum that have turbo on their Yaris have not changed any internals but I believe they are running low boost.

[Nutzoids]

You do know that those kits are pushing the 5-6 Grand mark, Right?

:evil:

[nqd]

can you change the amount of boost on an SC?

[eTiMaGo]

can you change the amount of boost on an SC?

Not as easily as with a turbo, as you need to swap the SC pulley for a different sized one.

Although, the Blitz SC kit has some kind of a gearbox system inside that allows you to choose different levels of boost depending on how you want to drive... very interesting :wink:

[nsmitchell]

I had a Jackson Racing supercharger- roots style - on my 1998 CR-V and I got nowhere near the performance they are claiming. I also had to use premium gas and got poor mileage. Maybe these centrifugal superchargers are better than the 10 year old roots type.

The install on my CR-V was a friggin nitemare too!

[redduck]

I wish someone would start making internals

[ChinoCharles]

You can have things like rods and pistons custom made, but it isn't cheap.

The Scion xA that has the Danstoy ITB kit used to run a supercharger but he removed it due to the amount of damage done to his piston rings. He was running 7 PSI.

Good luck boosting the 1NZ.

[Black Yaris]

Better pix from the same site
http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/products/turbo/toyota/bb_sc/images/imag_01.jpg

[nsmitchell]

That thing looks pretty darn simple to install! The belt may be a bitch. No new exhaust manifold is awesome. And that sucker is small as hell!

I wonder why the intake is not where the old box was located???:iono:

***edit***

I see, the airflow sensor is connected to the intake and I guess they didn't want a wiring harness or something like that. Or is that the electronic throttle???

[nqd]

I wonder how much power increase and how it sounds?

[Black Yaris]

I wonder how much power increase and how it sounds?
according to the site the min HP gain was 50

[cdydjded]

I wish someone would start making internals

Crower has rods & CP has pistons.

[nqd]

according to the site the min HP gain was 50


is that 50+ to the wheels?

[Black Yaris]

does not specify

[RShatchback]

yeah lets see how much its going to cost, and when it will actually release...Cause it seems to me when these companies write "near future" or something similar it really means months and months dragging on to years. The blitz sc has had a TBA on there website forever...

[Black Yaris]

I wish someone would start making internals

They do, do a search

[Vic-2NZFE]

The ROTREX installation looks pretty clean..
take a look at the one below, i believe its a Blitz S/C :smoking:
look what the guy had to do to his hood, its a pretty old picture though

http://www.geocities.jp/na67183530/myweb1004009.jpg

http://www.geocities.jp/na67183530/myweb1004007.jpg

[lostmind]

It looks sexy! How do I get one :)

[jdium]

50 hp at the wheels? Even at the crank? Call me a bit skeptical http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smilies/outfitted/propeller.gif. That's a 50% increase at the crank, more like 60% at the wheels. Is this thing spitting out 15lbs of boost?

[Thirty-Nine]

I could see 50% with a header and header-back exhaust system, and tuning, but not just by slappin on a charger ...

[reznunt]

is that 50+ to the wheels?

doubt it. sounds like an inflated crank #. but that's close because isn't our drivetrain loss like 10% or something small like that?

[reznunt]

yeah lets see how much its going to cost, and when it will actually release...Cause it seems to me when these companies write "near future" or something similar it really means months and months dragging on to years. The blitz sc has had a TBA on there website forever...

the 1nz is still pretty new. give it some time. start saving your pennies and in a few years, you'll be able to buy all this with cash money :wink:

[thebarber]

i would expect to see similar numbers to the JR fit s/c....w/ an exhaust manifold and exhaust (as the fit has)

so for CARB legality, 130whp, no CARB and 10lbs of boost, expect 150whp-ish

you shouldnt need to upgrade internals as the 1nzfe is a lower compression engine to start with, but im sure the kit comes w/ bigger injectors....

as for sound? ive read the rotrex s/c's are pretty quiet

[Doc Zaius]

10.5:1 is lower compression??

[d2dailly]

10.5:1 is lower compression??

exactly what i was thinking...

[ChinoCharles]

NO IT ISN'T.

Plus our internals are actually just Lincoln Logs.

[RShatchback]

the 1nz is still pretty new. give it some time. start saving your pennies and in a few years, you'll be able to buy all this with cash money :wink:

Yeah, but i'm reeeeeaaalll impatient - I dont need to save, i have it - now - so i want it - now. In a few years I'll be really bored and will want a whole new car, not new parts for an old one....:iono:

I pray every night. lol. i am hoping some companies answer soon..

[cali yaris]

Bulletproof Automotive has the Blitz kit in stock... :drool:

so tempting, but there are fitment issues, plus you're on your own for management.

[cali yaris]

It is within our power to show them we have strong interest in this product:

Contact info: Power Enterprise USA Inc
17155 Von Karman Avenue Suite108 Irvine CA 92614 USA
TEL: 949-752-0645 FAX: 949-752-0646

[Spades]

bah...its a centrifugal supercharger...where is my roots type at???

[cali yaris]

The Blitz is a roots type, isn't it?

[Thirty-Nine]

I don't know if I'd say the 1NZ-FE is new; it's been in the U.S. since 2000 in the Echo.

[mandriu]

I would try it.

[reznunt]

Yeah, but i'm reeeeeaaalll impatient - I dont need to save, i have it - now - so i want it - now. In a few years I'll be really bored and will want a whole new car, not new parts for an old one....:iono:

I pray every night. lol. i am hoping some companies answer soon..

but when the whole import scene as a majority switches to micro compacts, you'll have the early body... sort of having a clean eg with a motor swap. this car is going to be a classic.

plus, if you wait for the demand to grow, they'll have engine swap kits with ecu, cluster, mounts, axles, shift linkage, and everything else you need all in one kit and with a low price! but i still agree with you, i want it now too!

[reznunt]

I don't know if I'd say the 1NZ-FE is new; it's been in the U.S. since 2000 in the Echo.

ya but who fixes up echos? lol

people started fixing up civics more in the early 90's so they have at least 10 years on this motor buddy.

[thebarber]

i guess im used to my xrs w/ 11.5:1 compression

10.5 is realatively low

boost 'er up

[cdydjded]

Prediction: If and when this S/C comes out & after they figure out how to convert our pulleys to 5 grooves from 3, it will cost about 3500-4500 for the system. Considering that there are 3 members out of 3000+ that have a turbo or s/c kit I say that this kit will be a sales disapointment to company making it. Sorry to be so pesimistic but sometimes the truth hurts.

[Thirty-Nine]

I don't think it pesimistic at all -- it's reality. Most people buying a $13,000 new car don't have an additional $4,000 to dump into a supercharger.

[thebarber]

I don't think it pesimistic at all -- it's reality. Most people buying a $13,000 new car don't have an additional $4,000 to dump into a supercharger.

true story

besides, i wouldnt wanna kill my powertrain warranty immediately....

[lostmind]

true for most people.

Personally, I'd spend $5k on it. but I'm Canadian... this car wasn't so cheap.

[thebarber]

ya, i feel like if i were out of warrany and already had intake, exhaust and a header, id drop 3500-4500usd on a blower....

[eTiMaGo]

yeah, it's the curse of the new car, there's nothing wrong with it, everything's still under warranty, most people won't wanna mess with that... MOST people... :laugh:

[cdydjded]

yeah, it's the curse of the new car, there's nothing wrong with it, everything's still under warranty, most people won't wanna mess with that... MOST people... :laugh:

I dont feel "curse of the new car" is the problem. The problem is cheap car cheap owners. And also most members here are not performance oriented. They cringe at the thought of spending $3000 turbo kit.

[Thirty-Nine]

I cringe at spending $3,000 on a turbo kit for a 1NZ-FE since it's nearly a quarter of the price of the entire car.

[Nutzoids]

I cringe at spending $3,000 on a turbo kit for a 1NZ-FE since it's nearly a quarter of the price of the entire car.

+354,586,485

Reality... We don't NEED a Turbo that can put out 20PSI... Our engines can not take more then 7PSI... With anything less then 10PSI you don't even need an Intercooler!

So if someone came out with a Turbo Kit that only made 5-6PSI... No Intercooler, No Frills Turbo kit... threw a $1,500-$2,000 price tag on it... I guarantee they wouldn't be able to keep the kits on the Shelves

After all… THE YARIS IS THE 2ND CHEAPEST NEW CAR IN AMERICA…

:evil:

[sdmf]

i would rock it, but i wonder how long its going to take to get into production, its not like rotrex is nst. people didnt really buy the zpi turbo kit cuz of the companys reputation, but i think more people would buy the rotrex if it doesnt have fitament issues and just bolts right up with little or no modification at all

[RShatchback]

+354,586,485

Reality... We don't NEED a Turbo that can put out 20PSI... Our engines can not take more then 7PSI... With anything less then 10PSI you don't even need an Intercooler!

So if someone came out with a Turbo Kit that only made 5-6PSI... No Intercooler, No Frills Turbo kit... threw a $1,500-$2,000 price tag on it... I guarantee they wouldn't be able to keep the kits on the Shelves

After all… THE YARIS IS THE 2ND CHEAPEST NEW CAR IN AMERICA…

:evil:

+1 - I wouldnt mind a non intercooled kit for 1500 bucks - you could always add something later on if you wanted too - like some of the greddy kits come based as non intercooled and you can upgrade later if you want...

[cali yaris]

That's called a Stage 0 -- an excellent idea for our cars.

[punch]

guys, I/we want this tuff... make it....

in a couple years these cars will be cheap, and the tuner crowd can then buy them, and add on $3000 s/c... heck people buy shit box used hondas, and spend thousands on engine upgrades....

[mandriu]

I seriously considered zpi turbo, but after all the problems i had with trying to get either my exhaust or my money back i would strongly discourage business with them

[Thotprawsis]

I tought zpi was gone?

[joey1320]

I seriously considered zpi turbo, but after all the problems i had with trying to get either my exhaust or my money back i would strongly discourage business with them

yeah zpi is gone...

i know a lot of people here bought the yaris because it was cheap and are not planing on putting any kind of performance parts on, but theres a growing number of people that like the looks of the yaris but want more power.

i myself am hoping to finish my turbo kit by the end of the month. i need extra power, not an insane amount of power but another 60-70horses at the crank will do. i think the engine/trans can withstand that extra amount with no issues.

the more people interested in a product the better.:smile:

[barebonedvitz]

it's actually an xB engine.

Neils said the price will get announced when it's done.. i've had my days with the roots type in my b18 civic.. now i just wanna try something new. i like the fact that it's lighter too... soooo i'm all for waitin!... gives me more time to save! yee


http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/Powernews/index.html

I notice one of those pics looks like a vitz with a 1nz-fe.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a250/motorhead6t5/vitzkit200.jpg

[cali yaris]

Considering that there are 3 members out of 3000+ that have a turbo or s/c kit I say that this kit will be a sales disapointment to company making it.

True.... but I'm one of the 3... :wink:

[RShatchback]

there would be a whole lot more if someone like greddy came out with that "stage 0" kit talked about a few posts up!!

[AlphaFox]

there would be a whole lot more if someone like greddy came out with that "stage 0" kit talked about a few posts up!!

I concur! :thumbup:

[lostmind]

Stage 0 might be more appealing... And easier for everyone to get past the significant other in their life...

I however don't care. Soon as a solid kit comes out, so does my credit card :)

[cali yaris]

+1, amen, etc.

[cdydjded]

OK so if a company comes out with a turbo kit for $2000-$2500 without an intercooler everyone would jump on it?

[cali yaris]

I probably would. Depends on management, that's the critical element and I don't think anyone has figured out how to work with our ECU yet.

[Nutzoids]

OK so if a company comes out with a turbo kit for $2000-$2500 without an intercooler everyone would jump on it?

I am betting it can be done for under $2,000...

and cdydjded I know we have talked about it before... And I know that your option is to just throw money at your problems... But money is my problem... LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO BUY A YARIS!

So back off!

People... Can I get an "AMEN" for a Stage 0 Yaris Turbo Kit?

:evil:

[RShatchback]

Stage 0, +1

[cdydjded]

I am betting it can be done for under $2,000...

and cdydjded I know we have talked about it before... And I know that your option is to just throw money at your problems... But money is my problem... LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO BUY A YARIS!

So back off!

People... Can I get an "AMEN" for a Stage 0 Yaris Turbo Kit?

:evil:

Nothing in life comes cheap! You want fast & cheap? Go N2O!

[lostmind]

$2500? I'd buy it in a second.

heck, I have money in pocket and all I want is 15 more hp realistically. You'd think it'd be doable but it doesn't seem to be.

[jdium]

Nothing in life comes cheap! You want fast & cheap? Go N2O!

You want fast and cheap? Why did you buy a Yaris? Buy a 5.0 http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smilies/expressive/censored.gif

[RShatchback]

:thumbdown:

[cali yaris]

yeah, but some of us want fast...cheap... and cute.

neener neener (LOL)

[Thotprawsis]

yeah, but some of us want fast...cheap... and cute.

neener neener (LOL)
I know her! :biggrin:

[barebonedvitz]

lolz...

i hope that $2500 will get me to pass smog :P.. if it does.. imma be on that kit like ugly on a demon...

[Gadget@URD]

The Rotrex is a very high end supercharger. Here is what it looks like installed on my Toyota:

http://www.urdusa.com/images/bigscki.jpg


Gadget

[cali yaris]

beautifully done :clap:

[Gadget@URD]

Yea, thanks!

It is a blast to drive indeed:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v203/jon_lozon/?action=view&current=CIMG1321.flv

Gadget

[cali yaris]

holy crap that looks like fun -- we NEED to make a Yaris do that

[Gadget@URD]

Yep.

Gadget

[NCP91 RS]

Not too sure if I should go with Rotrex Chargers. Cause they used to supply Charger to HKS for 350Z S/C kit. However, I've heard that it was prone to premature wear and problems. And Rotrex weren't too keen on waranting their S/C for the problem. Therefore HKS has since dropped them and come out with a charger kit of their own. Can someone here support this? Or it's just bs?

[Gadget@URD]

From my experience, Rotrex is very good about warranty claims.

URD has produced a lot of supercharger kits using the Rotrex supercharger and the very few that had a problem were taken care of very quickly.


Gadget

[ddongbap]

The Rotrex is a very high end supercharger. Here is what it looks like installed on my Toyota:

http://www.urdusa.com/images/bigscki.jpg


Gadget
LoL gadget. You're here too? You guys are spreading pretty quickstyle. Good stuff. Maybe Brian can help me up with a SC for my Yaris, instead of my X-R. Hopefully I'll get a Yaris within a few weeks.